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muddpuppy
How is it possible for a christian to be anti-semitic? I mean Jesus WAS a jew!! Christianity is based on the Jewish religion! So in short if u hate jews and ur a christian then you hate yourself coz ur a jew! Really i just dont understand this concept!
churchanddestroy
QUOTE (muddpuppy @ Feb 14 2008, 12:57 PM) *
How is it possible for a christian to be anti-semitic? I mean Jesus WAS a jew!! Christianity is based on the Jewish religion! So in short if u hate jews and ur a christian then you hate yourself coz ur a jew! Really i just dont understand this concept!

Well, for a long time the Jews were explicitly blamed for the death of Jesus Christ, so somehow or another anti-semitism was justified, even though according to christian theology Jesus was SUPPOSED to die for the sins of mankind.
Darkwind
Hitler was a Christian and you can't get more anti-semitic than that.
Nik Xues
i find it even more funny that there some hold anti semitism yet they still read the old testiment and use it word for word to back their beleifs.

thats like calling down pagens then celebrating Christmas [a pagen holiday]
~HaParash~
QUOTE (muddpuppy @ Feb 14 2008, 10:57 AM) *
How is it possible for a christian to be anti-semitic? I mean Jesus WAS a jew!! Christianity is based on the Jewish religion! So in short if u hate jews and ur a christian then you hate yourself coz ur a jew! Really i just dont understand this concept!

1. Christians only claim that their religion is based off of Judaism.

2. Jesus might have been a Jew if you choose to accept the validity of the erroneous New Testament.

3. Technically the Jews killed Jesus. Supposedly the Jews know that Jesus is the Messiah and reject him anyway, which would make them the Devil.

Such is the mindset of an Anti-Semitic Xian.
moonlit12
QUOTE (muddpuppy @ Feb 14 2008, 01:57 PM) *
How is it possible for a christian to be anti-semitic? I mean Jesus WAS a jew!! Christianity is based on the Jewish religion! So in short if u hate jews and ur a christian then you hate yourself coz ur a jew! Really i just dont understand this concept!



I'm a christian, and it never occured to me to hate Jews. It isn't in the Bible to hate them, so am I missing a memo somewhere?

PS:
Hitler, a Christian? Yeah, so is Tom Cruise.
muddpuppy
QUOTE (Stand Up And Shout @ Feb 14 2008, 08:06 PM) *
1. Christians only claim that their religion is based off of Judaism.

2. Jesus might have been a Jew if you choose to accept the validity of the erroneous New Testament.

3. Technically the Jews killed Jesus. Supposedly the Jews know that Jesus is the Messiah and reject him anyway, which would make them the Devil.

Such is the mindset of an Anti-Semitic Xian.

Based?? The bible( Old Testament) IS the Torah in english(basically, but poorly translated). I was raised Christian(till i reached the age of reason) Baptists(what i used to be) have a closed minded point of view of the bible and say that most of the Old Testament is lies! HAHAHAHA thats funny to me coz they believe the New Testament word for word. IMO it was all written by man and who's to say any of it is true. Besides there are literally hundreds of scriptures, books and gospels intentionally left out of the bible. Any 1 care to explain that away? Information in these lost books contain such knowledge as Lilith was the first woman made and eve came second, made from a rib from adam's body. Who knows what other information has been left out. I mean if it was originally intended to be in the Bible. then y isnt it in there?
Irish
QUOTE (Darkwind @ Feb 14 2008, 12:25 PM) *
Hitler was a Christian and you can't get more anti-semitic than that.

Just to settle this of topic tidbit that crops up every once in awhile. Let’s hear from the man himself and you can decide if he was a Christian. All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)
10th October, 1941, midday:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)
14th October, 1941, midday:
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)
19th October, 1941, night:
The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.
21st October, 1941, midday:
Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)
13th December, 1941, midnight:
Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)
14th December, 1941, midday:
Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)
9th April, 1942, dinner:
There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)
27th February, 1942, midday:
It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." (p 278)

I rest my case thumbsup.gif

Irish
Zhna
Because OT is so gay and they are following that carpage. Was it not Yahwehs people who exterminated almost all of Canaan? I'm so proud of my former brethren and sisters in faith. Oh, those cathars in France were amazing when they made jokes openly of both OT and the catholic church. Burning those OT:s were just awesome!
churchanddestroy
QUOTE (Zhna @ Feb 14 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Because OT is so gay and they are following that carpage. Was it not Yahwehs people who exterminated almost all of Canaan? I'm so proud of my former brethren and sisters in faith. Oh, those cathars in France were amazing when they made jokes openly of both OT and the catholic church. Burning those OT:s were just awesome!

Ignorance at its finest. Don't use the word gay that way, its hateful. There are openly gay members of this forum and it's not fair to them that you use the word gay in such a derogatory manner.
eqgumby
QUOTE (churchanddestroy @ Feb 14 2008, 03:27 PM) *
Ignorance at its finest. Don't use the word gay that way, its hateful. There are openly gay members of this forum and it's not fair to them that you use the word gay in such a derogatory manner.

I believe he meant "ghey", or what is known as playground-gay, not referring to homosexuality but more like calling something "stupid". Still offensive, but not the slander it appeared to be. thumbsup.gif

Other than that, I didn't understand a word he said... rofl.gif
churchanddestroy
QUOTE (eqgumby @ Feb 14 2008, 03:32 PM) *
I believe he meant "ghey", or what is known as playground-gay, not referring to homosexuality but more like calling something "stupid". Still offensive, but not the slander it appeared to be. thumbsup.gif

Other than that, I didn't understand a word he said... rofl.gif

Oh, no, I knew what he meant, I just dont think that word usage like that belonged in the debate.
swtp
You can call yourself a Christian, but if you hate others it,s only a label that means nothing! And blaming the Jews for the death of Christ is rediculas, he came to earth for that very purpous! So if anyone is to blame, it,s every human being on earth that must share in that supposed blame, as we are all sinners and thats why Christ died ! If he had refused to come and die for our sins, we would all of us be forever seperated from God! So it,s just another bunch of fools useing the Christian label, as an excuse to hate! And thats not Christian at all!
norwood1026
QUOTE (muddpuppy @ Feb 14 2008, 06:57 PM) *
How is it possible for a christian to be anti-semitic? I mean Jesus WAS a jew!! Christianity is based on the Jewish religion! So in short if u hate jews and ur a christian then you hate yourself coz ur a jew! Really i just dont understand this concept!



The OT is the Jewish bible the Jewish community does not believe in the NT. So how can Christianty be based on Jewish faith?
CardWise
I certainly couldn't call myself christian if i hated jews, I am a christian.

but what your doing here is grouping chistianity and christendom, wich differ very much.

As a christian i still follow the old testament , you know exluding what jesus/ the apostles told us
we didn,t have to. Such as circumsision and sacrifice.

Antisemitism is not the same as being with my people and leaving everyone else alone,

but most of christendom, like hitler for example does harbor resentment towards jews,
even though (as stated) jesus death paid for all sins, but its clearly stated we must live by gods law.
not accepting christ is against that law
Nik Xues
man world stop doing this.
every time i read text written by a historic figure its stuff ive already contemplated. how am i suppose to learn if the greater minds are beneath me.

i see his point and strategy. cut out the roots and the tree shall die. Hitler planned on letting Christians destroy the Jews for him. then the christians would destroy themselves.

whats scarier is he is correct to say that Christisnity is "destroying itself" with lies. look at how science is quickly discrediting christianity. once more look at the hipocracies higher up in the catholic church, boy touchers who condemn homosexuality.

i find it scary that i could understand an "evil" man.

was he evil or did he just expose how warped we already are. after all people chose to follow him without question.
muddpuppy
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Feb 14 2008, 11:19 PM) *
The OT is the Jewish bible the Jewish community does not believe in the NT. So how can Christianty be based on Jewish faith?

The Holy Bible contains both Old and New Testaments, The Christian religion is based on both Old and New Testaments. So in a way yes, it is based on the Jewish religion.
How can a so called "Good Christian" hate jews? Jesus(were told) was Jewish, and no he was NOT killed by the jews, the romans killed Jesus.

Christians are supposed to follow the strict rules that God laid down and Jesus later revised. I mean the Christians in the U.S. started out as Puritans. If you know your history, you know what a strict bunch they were.

The puritans were so uptight about THEIR Christian beliefs that Britain threw them outta the country! lol grin2.gif (Hope that joke isnt offensive to the Brits unsure.gif
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