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Zaus
It is no coincidence that the eye of horus is on the $1 bill. We have had 34 mason presidents already since the founding of america(which was founded mostly by masons also). The eye of horus was a sacred symbol of egypt,
It was referred to as "The All-seeing eye(Think tolkien)", also horus was depicted as a falcon, or with a falcon head. The Egyptian religion was a religion who worshipped light, mostly of the sun. The sun was horus(in legend he was killed and resurrected, just like jesus, infact do a google search for horus/jesus similarities. But it doesnt stop there, AT ALL. Bhudda, Gilgamesh, Beowulf... and many many other deities who are currently being worshipped today are all Horus. It is not so hard to believe that Religious stories were recycled, but sadly this was all engineered by an opponent who sits atop the world oppressing information, the most powerful force in the universe.

Now that you know that most major religions are unbeknownst to themselves worshipping horus, this is where things get... really... really... creepy. Horus was also referred to as a "bringer of light". In the Bible the "bringer of light" was none other than Lucifer(as the name means the same). So now we have a mass of innocent people worshipping satan. Is it any wonder christians are constantly plagued with demons? This also means these people are worshipping the sun. NOT GOOD. Why? Well, now we have to start on something totally different.

Disney. Disney makes kids movies, Yay!!! We've all seen the innocent movies made by this company. What you might have heard is that disney adds subliminal messages to their movies(mostly encouraging sex). If you do not believe this then stop reading here, because the rest is even MORE CRAZY! ROFL.

Nearly every disney movie hits on one subject. Wishing on a star. Now what is the "star" they are talking about? The star is the actor. The actors and actresses living on top of the world. Now i tell you the government is involved and i await flaming... but before we get too off track id just like to say a few things. The goal of the Elite is to keep the populace:
1) afraid
2) unhealthy(body and mind)
3) well-fed(ever been called a consumer?)
4) pre-occupied
5) extremely sexually active(for fatigue and the inability to think due to loss of prana)
6) the most important, HYPNOTISED.

The movie the matrix makes a few good points about this. The "lady in red" Created by the character "mouse". Another REALLY GOOD WORD FOR THIS IS MANIFESTED!!!
Mouse "Manifests" the "lady in red". The The training program neo is seduced, only to see a gun pointed in his face. Before mouse is killed he is looking at the lady in red.
Now the creepy part...
The movie "Weird Science" is about how 2 young whipper snappers feed info into a computer and "manifest" Kelly Lebrock. She comes out of a weird red hole in the wall, looking sexy as ever. SHE IS THE LADY IN RED!!!!!
The Lady that seduces and destroys men... If you dont get it yet this next one is a shocker!!!
CALL ME CRAZY, CALL ME A HERETIC! But throughout history, those who were branded heretics for their beliefs were 99% of the time 100% correct.

how do i know, beyond a shadow of a doubt kelly lebrock was one of many ladies in red? well, lets just take a look at the title of a movie she played in.... "lady in red" Ever seen that one?

Another goal of the Elite is to make everyone into sun worshippers.
A youtube clip to get my point across...
Religion is BS George Carlin

Now that you know where the psychological warfare is coming from, On to physical Warfare.
Drugs... being administered under the guise of "medicine" is INSANE!!!! Have you read the side-effects???????? I mean, if i take some headache drugs, then i get diheria, cramps, and ulcers. If i take diheria drugs i have to deal with headache, bowel pain, cramps, etc, etc. Our own medical institute is killing us.... Our own colleges are destroying knowledge, Our news misinforms us, Our space program from the moon apparently doesnt have any documentation on how they did it(we never went to the moon, it was hollywood. good job to all those who spotted that one, i apologize for calling you all insane). DONT watch TV, Throw off the hypnotists you call celebrities and embrace the ONE TRUE THING YOU HAVE IN YOUR LIFE. You. YOU are a free-thinking individual, do not be tempted by todays society, it is a massive problem of the individual to actually be an individual.
And that is precisely what we were conditioned for, a mass conscience is easier to control than 6 billion free thinking people.

And finally id like to close by saying we are in a horribly dire situation. The two towers were just the begining of the end, and with noone raising A MASSIVE ANARCHIAL FIST to our government the elite realise how "in the pocket" the masses are... it is a sad, sad, day and i fear america will soon be a massive third world slave country. They already have hundreds of concentration camps...
darkbreed
Some good points that I agree to myself from own research and experience.

Satan and Lucifer is not the same beings though, and what about YHWH (Yehova, Yahweh, etc) or God as he is most often called? Doesn't seem like much of a good fellow either.

Oh and regarding the sun and worship of it, and Lucifer meaning the light bringer. So could Lucifer be the Sun? Ancient religious beliefs and texts, such as in the hermetic tradition, claim that the Sun is the Creator of this solar system, and the God we live under, whom originally was created by the higher real God. After all, without the sun, there would be no life here, no solar system, nothing.

Its a bit confusing to make it all out with all these gods and deities and the different roles they play and what they govern etc. But quite fascinating when you look into it and see the connections.
Malruhn
Have you actually conducted any research to cite anything you post?

Your count of Masonic Presidents is off by more than 100%.

Horus was not the Sun god - that was Ra.

Accusing so very many religions of worshiping Horus "by accident" and not realizing it is on the other side of laughable.

Beowulf is not a deity - he was a mythical hero. That is a HUGE difference!

Buddha is not a deity - he is merely a wise man. This is even MORE of a difference.

If you understood the concept of religion, you would realize that your accusation that Christians are actually Satanists is so far off the mark as to be ridiculous.

Wishing upon a "star" means to wish upon the actor in the movie?!?! How do you make this stuff up? The concept of wishing on a star (either first star of the evening or a falling star) can be verified to be several hundred years old - and is mentioned in ancient religious texts - so can be inferred to be THOUSANDS of years old. I think this predates movie stars just a bit, don't you?

Do you have any idea how long the color red has been associated with passion and sex? And you want to say that this is a new concept?!?! For a pretend character in a pretend movie? I guess if I draw a stick figure in a dress - and use a crayon to color it red, I am manifesting as well, right? Find a job. Get some money. Use money to buy a clue.

99% of all heretics were 100% true? Now that you are getting so exacting, I need to ask for a cite for where you came up with this amazing statistic. Methinks you are pulling numbers from your fourth point of contact.

You are using a video of an atheist COMMEDIAN to prove a point? Sorry, though I may agree that Carlin is funny, he isn't a deep thinker.

You speak of drug side-effects. Which drugs are you specifically speaking of? Throw us a bone here so we can see just what drugs you are suffering the side-effects from!

There is a thread on the moon landing idiocy - and you don't do yourself any favors bringing it up again in a rambling post here.

You tell us to listen to you and to not follow celebrities and the media and follow ourselves by following you. Try reading what you post. First off, a sane person doesn't have this problem and can make decisions for themselves. Secondly - and most importantly - to put on my own tin-foil hat for a moment... YOU are telling me to follow YOUR orders... who are YOU and why do you want to control me? (This is so rich, I am amazed that you take this seriously!!)

Your post is a ramble that makes Ted Kazinski sound sane. Most importantly, you make over a dozen claims that are amazingly detailed... and provide no credible sources for your information. If you intend to be taken seriously, you have to consider these things. Write a post in a word-processing program, then format it into coherent ideas - clumping similar items into paragraphs. Then add and integrate sources to your post so that people that might want to see what you are saying can check for themselves (like you want them to... I think... you may just want them to follow you). THEN you can copy and paste the text for your post.

Oh, by the way, this ramble is a conspiracy theory - and will most likely be moved. You should consider that before posting in inappropriate areas.
jaylemurph
Conspiracy theory needs to go in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

--Jaylemurph
Zaus
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Oh, by the way, this ramble is a conspiracy theory - and will most likely be moved. You should consider that before posting in inappropriate areas.


Well... i guess i have to say that alternate history seems perfectly logical over "conspiracy theory" considering how blatantly obvious the elite is being these days.
Ra was the "creator god" and yes he was associated with the sun. Horus was also highly associated with the sun, but more importantly light.

“Many Freemasons shudder at the word occult which comes from the Latin, meaning to cover, to conceal from public scrutiny and the profane. But anyone studying Freemasonry cannot avoid classifying Freemasonry among occult teachings.”
- George H. Steinmetz, The Royal Arch Its Hidden Meaning, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Co., Inc. 1946, p. 147.

Eye of horus, Eye of ra, this was thousands of years ago, we have 0% chance of being 100% accurate anyway.

But it creeps me out when i look at a dollar bill and see 13 stars, 13 stripes, 13 arrows, 13 leaves & berries, 13 layers of the pyramid, 13 words in e pluribus unum(out of many, one) and annuit coeptis(favor undertakings), 32 feathers on one side, 13 weird dot things next to the pyramid, which ofcourse holds the all seeing eye inside the triangle of providence.

And if you dont understand that you should read some up on freemasonry, it IS THEIR SYMBOL. Not to mention the "eagle" that really looks like a falcon, yet another egypt reference. Dont you get it? they are TELLING you whats going on, THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!!

And here is where the rabbit hole gets deeper yet again. If you know the 9/11 fold, apply it to the $1 bill

American Currency

You will see with one fold, the bottom half of the eagle(holding the olive branches and arrows) over the bulk of the pyramid, this is representing the elites power over the people(being food and weaponry) Notice you can also see Novus Ordo Seclorum(New Order of the Ages). on the reverse side is an obvious pentagram.

As you unfold it you see 3 folds(2 diagonal, 1 along the center) This makes an X with four points. This is the cuboid stargate we are all trapped in. Yes i know im a heretic blah blah blah. Reality is only physical yatta yatta yatta. Now on to something scarier MTV!!!!

Buy Buy Buy

Notice first off they are puppets on strings, and the word libertas(latin for liberty, which was a roman God of freedom, the statue of liberty was fashioned after libertas) scrolls down. It is the lady in red controlling them FANCY THAT? And then, they are trapped in a cuboid stargate. The lyrics even tell it like it is. Then yet another stargate, this one made of water(stargate the movie/series always depicted stargates with water), with the lady in red 2 guard dogs in the way. Not certain what this means, other than maybe cerberus(two headed guard dog for hell, egyptian belief, this belief survived in Rome).

Stargates then, shall we? The movie constintine. If you have seen it you know that whenever they went to hell, or heaven, or the birth of lucifer's son was about to pop, they are always around water. Also, if you will notice on the temples in egypt you will find the "Flower of Life"

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Accusing so very many religions of worshiping Horus "by accident" and not realizing it is on the other side of laughable.


Really is it?
Jesus was the son of god(the SUN of god)
He was the Truth the Light and the Way
He wore a crown of thorns(what do you see when YOU look at the sun?)
He was killed and ressurected(the cycle of the sun)

The bible especially(in english) is useless!!! its been translated so many times you cant even tell how many!

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Beowulf is not a deity - he was a mythical hero. That is a HUGE difference!

Buddha is not a deity - he is merely a wise man. This is even MORE of a difference.


Aside from beowulf, bhuddism, christianty, and catholacism follow it all the same.

BTW jesus, horus, bhudda, were all born on dec. 25... HMMMMM.

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Wishing upon a "star" means to wish upon the actor in the movie?!?! How do you make this stuff up? The concept of wishing on a star (either first star of the evening or a falling star) can be verified to be several hundred years old - and is mentioned in ancient religious texts - so can be inferred to be THOUSANDS of years old. I think this predates movie stars just a bit, don't you?


OH MY GOD!!! THAT MEANS DISNEY IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!! no. Can you not see the the idolization going on? if you cant your certainly lost. dont you think reality television is a bit... ridiculous at best? I mean american idol is just karaoke. And how many people world wide are focusing their attention(and thus energy) on "the stars"?
This is EXACTLY what idolization is. It doesn't have to be a deity.

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Do you have any idea how long the color red has been associated with passion and sex? And you want to say that this is a new concept?!?! For a pretend character in a pretend movie? I guess if I draw a stick figure in a dress - and use a crayon to color it red, I am manifesting as well, right? Find a job. Get some money. Use money to buy a clue.


Money wont buy anyone a clue. If you draw a figure in a dress, you used your mind to conceptualize it, and your body to create it. Just because you think reality is being trapped in a cube doesnt mean i have to.

Fine so 99% of heretics might not have been 100% correct, but i know im right, so ill just end there.

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You are using a video of an atheist COMMEDIAN to prove a point? Sorry, though I may agree that Carlin is funny, he isn't a deep thinker.


I was just pointing out he endorses sun worship.

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You speak of drug side-effects. Which drugs are you specifically speaking of? Throw us a bone here so we can see just what drugs you are suffering the side-effects from!


I love this question, a quick google search for "prescription drug side effects" gives us...
Drug side effects
I swore off pills along time ago
But thats nothing compared to this...
FDA Poisons food with viruses
Strangely i looked for test results for this virus additive thing and found nothing... weird.

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There is a thread on the moon landing idiocy - and you don't do yourself any favors bringing it up again in a rambling post here.


So tell me, why doesnt nasa have ANY idea how to get to the moon if we did it already?

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You tell us to listen to you and to not follow celebrities and the media and follow ourselves by following you. Try reading what you post. First off, a sane person doesn't have this problem and can make decisions for themselves. Secondly - and most importantly - to put on my own tin-foil hat for a moment... YOU are telling me to follow YOUR orders... who are YOU and why do you want to control me? (This is so rich, I am amazed that you take this seriously!!)


Im telling you what i know, what would i gain from controlling you??? Thats r******ed, im trying to FREE you, if you are too afraid to think for a second i can only blame our oppressors. Did you know that very soon there will be no Constitution? Your rights to free speech will soon be gone.
There is alot of misinformation out there, but nowadays its not even funny, there IS NO CONSPIRACY, they are operating almost OPENLY!!!

Bohemian club 1981

Just like bilderberg, all the people with the money get together to F the rest of us.

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Your post is a ramble that makes Ted Kazinski sound sane. Most importantly, you make over a dozen claims that are amazingly detailed... and provide no credible sources for your information. If you intend to be taken seriously, you have to consider these things. Write a post in a word-processing program, then format it into coherent ideas - clumping similar items into paragraphs. Then add and integrate sources to your post so that people that might want to see what you are saying can check for themselves (like you want them to... I think... you may just want them to follow you). THEN you can copy and paste the text for your post.


I did my homework, you can do yours, if i give you all the links you would click around and sum it up as conspiracy and i wouldnt be able to get my point across.
I am so sorry that you are blind to the real world, but you are not my responsibility , i simply want to share my views and get everyone to realise HOW TRULY SCREWED WE WILL BE IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING.
Joe013
lol i read the first few lines and i have no respect for this thread already! grin2.gif
timbeau
LOL @ this thread. Great reading material. original.gif
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE (Malruhn @ Feb 15 2008, 05:39 AM) *
You are using a video of an atheist COMMEDIAN to prove a point? Sorry, though I may agree that Carlin is funny, he isn't a deep thinker.


Actually he is, I'd say the innovative stand up comics are the philosophers of this day and age.
Dredimus
ALRIGHT *CLAP CLAP CLAP* Very Entertaining, good way to perk up my morning... anyway... yeah.. High on Entertainment value, low on fact.

Oh, and Horus and Jesus were not "born" on Dec. 25, thats merely the date christians celebrate his birthdate.
And Um... Buddha was not born, nor is his birthday celebrated on Dec. 25. ... its in April...

How do you get a connection between "Crown Of Thorns" and "Looking at the sun"

Oh, and how can God be the "Sun God" when he created the sun?

Anyway, as it was posted nearly immediately after you posted, you need to do a better job at gathering some facts, also as stated before, I wouldnt be suprised if this thread gets moved.
timbeau
QUOTE (Dredimus @ Feb 15 2008, 11:01 AM) *
Oh, and Horus and Jesus were not "born" on Dec. 25, thats merely the date christians celebrate his birthdate.
And Um... Buddha was not born, nor is his birthday celebrated on Dec. 25. ... its in April...


LOL...beat me to it.

This is only second to that one poster saying Hitler was born in 1942.
keithisco
Zaus is off on a rant.... passifier.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif

please.... send this thread to "Junior U.M."
sweet succubus
What the crap man, this tread is still running. Man this guy is off his rocker and admitted it. Please just leave it be. wacko.gif
667-Neighbor of the Beast
I'm confused!! Is this guy trying to claim that Kelly LeBrock is Satan, and is secretly controlling the world through subliminal messaging in Disney movies and that George Carlin is helping her by hypnotizing them and making them overeat??



JK. Cracking jokes seems to be about the only good thing this thread is good for. Oh, and can someone get this guy some Rittlin please??
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 15 2008, 03:36 AM) *
I did my homework, you can do yours, if i give you all the links you would click around and sum it up as conspiracy and i wouldnt be able to get my point across.
I am so sorry that you are blind to the real world, but you are not my responsibility , i simply want to share my views and get everyone to realise HOW TRULY SCREWED WE WILL BE IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING.

There is nothing real about your world of conspriacy.
Enigma wrapped in a puzzle
Black panther cologne (made from real panther bits) it works 60% of the time... every time.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (keithisco @ Feb 15 2008, 11:16 AM) *
Zaus is off on a rant.... passifier.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif

please.... send this thread to "Junior U.M."


I think my royalty on that comes to 7.5 cents, K.

Also, Malruhn: not that I don't think your post was true and intelligent, but I think it's best not to provoke Zaus. No one here takes him very seriously, and when you respond like that, all you do is make him post more. And nobody want that, really.

--Jaylemurph
Malruhn
Point made - and taken. Color me shutting up. thumbsup.gif
HumanTorch
dude I hate the stupid dollar bill folds please tell me how stupid a government would have to be to put their plans to take over America on their most used currency. And by the way the statue of liberty was modeled after the mother of the artist learn history
Waspie_Dwarf
QUOTE (Malruhn @ Feb 15 2008, 05:39 AM) *
Oh, by the way, this ramble is a conspiracy theory - and will most likely be moved. You should consider that before posting in inappropriate areas.


QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Feb 15 2008, 07:08 AM) *
Conspiracy theory needs to go in the Conspiracy Theory forum.


I agree with this. Thread moved.
REBEL
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 15 2008, 03:35 PM) *
A youtube clip to get my point across...

Religion is BS George Carlin


GC's a frigg'n legend, yet somehow i don't think it was appropriate here...(?)

You trying to say to much in the one post. Just a word of advice champ (take it or leave it) keep em informative short sweet & to the point, or your liable to have your threads cut to shreads here man.
747400
So where does Britney come into this?

QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Feb 15 2008, 07:05 PM) *
I think my royalty on that comes to 7.5 cents, K.

Also, Malruhn: not that I don't think your post was true and intelligent, but I think it's best not to provoke Zaus. No one here takes him very seriously, and when you respond like that, all you do is make him post more. And nobody want that, really.

--Jaylemurph

aww, I find these sort of things endlessly entertaining.
crystal sage
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb , 08:36 PM)
I love this question, a quick google search for "prescription drug side effects" gives us...
Drug side effects
I swore off pills along time ago
But thats nothing compared to this...
FDA Poisons food with viruses
Strangely i looked for test results for this virus additive thing and found nothing... weird.




I did my homework, you can do yours, if i give you all the links you would click around and sum it up as conspiracy and i wouldnt be able to get my point across.
I am so sorry that you are blind to the real world, but you are not my responsibility , i simply want to share my views and get everyone to realise HOW TRULY SCREWED WE WILL BE IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING.


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/a...dspray0904.html

Viruses approved to fight food bacteria


http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/0002387/42/


whistling2.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Qu53M8yUM
Zaus
Yall aren't even listening

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The movie the matrix makes a few good points about this. The "lady in red" Created by the character "mouse". Another REALLY GOOD WORD FOR THIS IS MANIFESTED!!!
Mouse "Manifests" the "lady in red". The The training program neo is seduced, only to see a gun pointed in his face. Before mouse is killed he is looking at the lady in red.
Now the creepy part...
The movie "Weird Science" is about how 2 young whipper snappers feed info into a computer and "manifest" Kelly Lebrock. She comes out of a weird red hole in the wall, looking sexy as ever. SHE IS THE LADY IN RED!!!!!
The Lady that seduces and destroys men... If you dont get it yet this next one is a shocker!!!

how do i know, beyond a shadow of a doubt kelly lebrock was one of many ladies in red? well, lets just take a look at the title of a movie she played in.... "lady in red" Ever seen that one?



We, unfortunately are the ones manifesting the power the elite have. For example we are being poisoned
FDA sprays viruses on meats
Our colleges are all headed by people with elite connections(suppression of knowledge). Skull and bones is on the Yale campus BTW, lots o masonic symbolism there too
Bush and Kerry, Skull and Bones
Look, they are TELLING YOU THIS, not trying to be secret anymore
And here we see bush again, saying something completely insane...
Bush, no conspiracy theory about 9/11
1995 a simpsons episode aired, you may have seen this before
pre 9/11 subliminal message
Now, what happens to people who ask our leaders, WTF????
A very dangerous question
And free speech goes out the window... and here's some more scary stuff, concerning the North American Union.
WE ARE LIVING IN A DICTATORSHIP!!!!!
Why is this so scary then, merging mexico, canada, and america(besides the removal of The Constitution, and non-existence of america as a country)?
Fema already has this power(and it is USING IT!!!!) to remove the people's rights, whenever they see fit. A man named Jack Brooks(former marine WWII) tried to stop the TREASON that was being committed by our own government.
Very bad things'
Another thing that is interesting is what the F Fema is doing building hundreds of underground bases and concentration camps, much more than were built during WWI and WWII.
Fema Underground
Just listen to the guy, do you trust THAT GUY???? i mean, he WOULDN'T answer the question.
Now on to my defense!

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Actually he is, I'd say the innovative stand up comics are the philosophers of this day and age.

I love you! unfortunately they are only philosophers and able to tell the truth because they ARE the elite.

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ALRIGHT *CLAP CLAP CLAP* Very Entertaining, good way to perk up my morning... anyway... yeah.. High on Entertainment value, low on fact.

Oh, and Horus and Jesus were not "born" on Dec. 25, thats merely the date christians celebrate his birthdate.
And Um... Buddha was not born, nor is his birthday celebrated on Dec. 25. ... its in April...


The point is its still celebrated on dec. 25, which was when Horus's birthday was/was celebrated... since 5000+ years ago.
As far as christian's are concerned i went to church for a long time, and a christian school. Every once in a while someone would say yaknow jesus's bday probly wasnt dec. 25, but as a child "christmas" is always accompanied by the stories birth of jesus, star in the east, kings blah blah blah, when in fact here are more similarities between horus and jesus
I see noone wants to believe me so here are my sources
More stuff
More more stuff
Now it is my firm belief that "virgin birth" isnt "virgin birth" its "immaculate conception".
Also Horus was the son of ISIS not OSIRIS, alot of places get that mixed up, however just remember Isis was female, Osiris male.

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I think my royalty on that comes to 7.5 cents, K.
I think it's best not to provoke Zaus. No one here takes him very seriously, and when you respond like that, all you do is make him post more. And nobody want that, really.
--Jaylemurph


You are too afraid to take me seriously, and i understand that, its much easier to laugh it off and call it w/e. As far as noone taking me seriously, thats just dead wrong, darkbreed has been doing the same as me, being a voice noone wants to hear. The only thing standing in the way of you accepting what is really out there, isnt you, it is the "mass conscience", the
(supposed)truth you are told. Have you ever even considered that you are made of trillions of cells? and that those cells have an individuality in what they do, yet are unaware of your total self? You think you are simply 1 organism and the next guy is only 1 organism. Wrong, you are TRILLIONS of organisms interworking together and keeping you alive. Then you and the next guy and the next guy, etc, make up a greater organism that YOU are not aware of. This extends as far as you go, and i believe it is insanity to think the earth itself is not a living organism. It shows all the signs of life, as it is what brought us TO life. It's actually all very simple, we know absolutely nothing about the universe we live in, other than what we have been led to believe by "modern" culture.

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How do you get a connection between "Crown Of Thorns" and "Looking at the sun"

... think, for a moment. about the "crown of thorns part", youll get it.

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Oh, and how can God be the "Sun God" when he created the sun?


when did i say that? I said Horus was the sun god, Horus was the son of Isis.


a Disney dummy company, in order to keep christians from hating them released "dogma", along with the buddy christ action figure. He is winking. This is VERY
IMPORTANT, as the covering of one eye is a direct reference to the all-seeing eye. Who else does this you might ask?
Are you ready for another rabbit hole?
Back to stargates, remember they are usually either cuboid(rectangular or square) or made of water. This is how they are depicted to us, to keep us reminded, we are the ones stuck in cube prisons or "the matrix". These though... are prisons of the mind, prisons we are not normally even aware of, and only those who find their way to the illuminated ones survive to show their talent(though most are born into it).
The Mind Freak does freaky stuff
And here we see the use of a stargate, making him light as a feather. This is no trick, thats the PROBLEM!!! if its a trick, its not possible, if its not possible there is nothing to fear. If it IS possible(which ironically is more likely), then we would ask, WTF???? and thats no good for people suppressing technology.
1897, the tesla coil was invented, it IS a radio and WIRELESS ENERGY TRANSMITTER AND RECEIVER. In 1897 tesla was lighting lightbulbs with no wires from MILES AND MILES AWAY. He tried to LITTERALLY save the world. If you have any interest in science, say F U einstien and embrace the man who brought us to the age we live in.
Back to chris angel, here is some stargates and all seeing eye references(MTV is EVIL).
Mind Freak Video
Notice the cuboid stargate, water effects, and one eye covered. This is fairly prevalent when demons, satan, etc. is involved, see the movie little nicky.

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I'm confused!! Is this guy trying to claim that Kelly LeBrock is Satan, and is secretly controlling the world through subliminal messaging in Disney movies and that George Carlin is helping her by hypnotizing them and making them overeat??

JK. Cracking jokes seems to be about the only good thing this thread is good for. Oh, and can someone get this guy some Rittlin please??

First off, "IM CONFUSED", and no im not saying kelly lebrock is satan, refer to my earlier post and READ IT before making comments.

Disney obvious subliminal messages This is because they want to get you while your young, and oh how well it works.
And When your laughing(at george carlin), your not thinking about whether he is screwing you, do you?

Ritalin is crack BTW, and the government is encouraging CHILDREN to take it.
Ritalin and Cocaine
Please for your own sakes, DONT USE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS! Refuse it! they will feed it to you for any number of reasons and nowadays most medications they prescribe are ADDICTIVE. Why? i really shouldn't even have to explain that but for those who dont know the pharmaceutical industry makes more now than any other per capita.
They are getting us hooked on the most horrid isht there is... in 2003 this happened...
pharmaceutical lobbyists

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There is nothing real about your world of conspriacy.

I would love to believe that honestly, but i see lies all around todays world.

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NO POWERS. NO WAY. IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE THEM, THEN STEP UP AND PROVE IT.
I love the paranormal.It fascinates me. I wait for the day when any of it can be proven by solid evidence. I just need proof..
The longer you are here, the more skeptical you will get. BOO YA!!!
Nothing spells out, "D i s b e l i e f" to a skeptic more than an individual trying to be a wizard among mortal humans.


Tesla. Nuf said. And BTW, many, many, many, many, people despised tesla and said he couldn't do what he did(including weather control, read what the haarp patent does).

I believe we are in a truly terrible time, i believe that very soon(5-10 years) the world will take a nosedive, and the free people will be too broken to fight back. I just hope someone opens their eyes and looks at america for what it really is, a communist dictatorship.
Anyone remember when bush tried to sell an airport to Dubai? Dubai is the fastest growing country in the world right now. BTW they now have the tallest building in the world now, call the burj.

Now please before anyone else posts how crazy i am, think for a second. What's more likely, all people are treated equally no matter how much money they have, or people who have all the money get together in secret meetings where there is no news coverage and talk about what they are going to do next with the world?
A wiki page with all the bilderberg members
I dont trust wiki's, but you get the point, they all have money, power, land, or all three.

EDIT: Consider this. You are surrounded by so many forms of psychological attack(in the form mass media, and the entertainment industry.) that by delving to explain one thing, you find yourself unable to because the whole thing is interconnected, so the next best thing, get as many quick facts out there as you possibly can, and defend your position accordingly.
If i didnt care about you people i would have left long ago, but if i dont try to get the word out i would hate myself for the rest of my life, and i can assure you this is how serious this is.
jaylemurph
You are too afraid to take me seriously, and i understand that, its much easier to laugh it off and call it w/e. As far as noone taking me seriously

No, I'm not afraid. Just bored. The true mark of a nut is that they think think they're the first to put all the pieces of the puzzle together when they trot out the same old stories. And -- lucky me -- dealing with adolescents who think they understand everything when they have experience of virtually nothing is a daily part of my job. So quite frankly, I don't find you anything but tiresomely dull.

--Jaylemurph
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 16 2008, 06:43 AM) *
Yall aren't even listening----Because you are making no sense.





Now please before anyone else posts how crazy i am, think for a second. What's more likely, all people are treated equally no matter how much money they have, or people who have all the money get together in secret meetings where there is no news coverage and talk about what they are going to do next with the world?
A wiki page with all the bilderberg members
I dont trust wiki's, but you get the point, they all have money, power, land, or all three.

EDIT: Consider this. You are surrounded by so many forms of psychological attack(in the form mass media, and the entertainment industry.) that by delving to explain one thing, you find yourself unable to because the whole thing is interconnected, so the next best thing, get as many quick facts out there as you possibly can, and defend your position accordingly.
If i didnt care about you people i would have left long ago, but if i dont try to get the word out i would hate myself for the rest of my life, and i can assure you this is how serious this is.

Look your posts just sound like ramblings. Sorry.
The world you live in sounds like a paranoid nightmare that we don't see.
Zaus
Time to forget everything you think you know, some simple facts,
1) The skull and bones lodge is on the yale campus, and the number on the door is 322
2) In the roman empire beauty, knowledge, innovation, and shear human willpower built amazing structures, where they made animals and men fight to the death, and
public execution during the games was commonplace, even innocent people were killed for fun, all the time.
3) The games were a distraction, and without it the roman governing body would not have been able to sustain its power.
4) The elite use mind control all the time, some stuff on CIA mind control declassified
The "Manchurian candidate" or bourne identity type mind control is not only possible, THEY ADMIT TO IT!
Imagine then the "entertainment industry" is really the "mind control industry". I mean really
Government, from the latin Governmente, meaning govern = control, mente = mind. Government = Control of the Mind(meaning mass conscience).
OK, now the fun part, where we tie the knot all together so you can see what Im getting at.

subliminal messages and mind control were used, through the television glass, spitting in the faces of the audience as they cheered away at their favorite wrestlers...
Nation of Domination
This is the "nation of domination" they all look at bit middle eastern, dont you think? and marching and chanting we are the nation of domination? HMMMMMM...
Then ofcourse there is the "Skull and Bones" and the "New World Order"

Anyone ever heard of Myron C. Fagan? Absolute proof that hollywood is under the one world government thumb
Myron C Fagan audio 1960
Main Page

Unfortunately i must sleep(been up 19+ hours)

Britney spears, cuboid staragte, ladies in red
Akon, lady in red MAKES stargate,
The next video is michael jackson doing smooth criminal. On youtube, i was unable to find the original version of this, in any case the original showed MJ running through "mist" a VERY common and VERY important symbolism. It is the mist that keeps the public blind to what is going on. Anyway, as MJ emerges from the mist some children catch him as he enters, you guessed it, a cuboid stargate. On the other side, is Isis and a bunch of other people aparently chillin in some other dimension. Many one-eye covered references here also, a black cat, and did you notice the cube in the window? Soon afterward we see MJ break a pool cue and uses the powder on the pissed off guy(look into voodoo). Then the guy he blows away with a pistol ends up to have been a demon. Later on the cat walks across piano keys, which is connected to egypt also, as the black/white squares were representative of stargates(egypt invented chess). After the cat makes his walk, the whole dimension seems to set a trance on its inhabitants. Soon after the children from the beginning peer into the alternate dimension, and see LIGHT(they were illuminated), then they are given the ability to dance like MJ. Next MJ is dancing between 8 other dancers in a circle with him in the middle. I suggest not listening to the lyrics... they are just insulting you.
Zaus
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Feb 16 2008, 08:55 AM) *
You are too afraid to take me seriously, and i understand that, its much easier to laugh it off and call it w/e. As far as noone taking me seriously

No, I'm not afraid. Just bored. The true mark of a nut is that they think think they're the first to put all the pieces of the puzzle together when they trot out the same old stories. And -- lucky me -- dealing with adolescents who think they understand everything when they have experience of virtually nothing is a daily part of my job. So quite frankly, I don't find you anything but tiresomely dull.

--Jaylemurph


Jayle... i look at a dollar bill and see 13 stars, 13 stripes, 13 arrows, 13 leaves & berries, 13 layers of the pyramid, 13 words in e pluribus unum(out of many, one) and annuit coeptis(favor undertakings), 32 feathers on one side, 13 weird dot things next to the pyramid, which ofcourse holds the all seeing eye inside the triangle of providence, and spells out mason when you see the pentagram the pyramid makes. We have had 25 KNOWN masonic presidents, including 17 masons who signed the declaration of independence. Before you post your useless "i cant disprove you but your wrong" or "that 1 detail was wrong so the whole thing was wrong", take a minute of your time and say "what if?" thats all it takes, nothing is accomplished by people who cant even have an open enough mind to find out for themselves. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STUDY MYRON C FAGAN!!!!

And another thing, dont mislead others by half-quoting me...

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You are too afraid to take me seriously, and i understand that, its much easier to laugh it off and call it w/e. As far as noone taking me seriously, thats just dead wrong, darkbreed has been doing the same as me, being a voice noone wants to hear.

THATS what i said.

EDIT: People have died trying to get this information out to the world to stop this madness... Your inability to believe is like pissing on good men's graves!!!!!
If ANYTHING, when our obviously half-retar ded, psychopath president tells us not to tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories, HOW INSANE ARE YOU WHEN YOU TAKE THAT ADVICE??!?!?
jaylemurph
Malruhn (and everyone else...) -- forgive me for not taking my own advice.

--Jaylemurph
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 16 2008, 11:55 AM) *
, HOW INSANE ARE YOU WHEN YOU TAKE THAT ADVICE??!?!?

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? no.gif
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the number on the door is 322

Oh my lord, that's just 344 doors down from 666!

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AtomicDog
Zaus, you need to write Riddler stories for Batman comics.
MID
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 16 2008, 12:47 PM) *
OK, now the fun part, where we tie the knot all together so you can see what Im getting at.


This is what I've been waiting for!


QUOTE
subliminal messages and mind control were used, through the television glass, spitting in the faces of the audience as they cheered away at their favorite wrestlers...
Nation of Domination
This is the "nation of domination" they all look at bit middle eastern, dont you think? and marching and chanting we are the nation of domination? HMMMMMM...
Then ofcourse there is the "Skull and Bones" and the "New World Order"

Unfortunately i must sleep(been up 19+ hours)

Britney spears, cuboid staragte, ladies in red
Akon, lady in red MAKES stargate,
The next video is michael jackson doing smooth criminal. On youtube, i was unable to find the original version of this, in any case the original showed MJ running through "mist" a VERY common and VERY important symbolism. It is the mist that keeps the public blind to what is going on. Anyway, as MJ emerges from the mist some children catch him as he enters, you guessed it, a cuboid stargate. On the other side, is Isis and a bunch of other people aparently chillin in some other dimension. Many one-eye covered references here also, a black cat, and did you notice the cube in the window? Soon afterward we see MJ break a pool cue and uses the powder on the pissed off guy(look into voodoo). Then the guy he blows away with a pistol ends up to have been a demon. Later on the cat walks across piano keys, which is connected to egypt also, as the black/white squares were representative of stargates(egypt invented chess). After the cat makes his walk, the whole dimension seems to set a trance on its inhabitants. Soon after the children from the beginning peer into the alternate dimension, and see LIGHT(they were illuminated), then they are given the ability to dance like MJ. Next MJ is dancing between 8 other dancers in a circle with him in the middle. I suggest not listening to the lyrics... they are just insulting you.


Yep, three obscure and god awful videos tie it all together for me. Fortunately, I didn't have to watch Michael Jackson as well!


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Anyone ever heard of Myron C. Fagan? Absolute proof that hollywood is under the one world government thumb



And you pay attention to Hollywood for what reason?
Why don't you don't exercise the god-given intelligence and freedom you have to NOT LISTEN, and to NOT WATCH this junk...???

Somehow, I think 19 hours awake is far too long for you, and it's especially painful to see you watching all of this crap and inventing symbology and mythology and mind-control and whatever in hell you're talking about and trying to tell us all about it...


Anyone can watch that Britney Spears video (or any of the others) and instantaneously get a nauseating feeling deep inside. That generally tells one, "I don't like this", and one can rapidly make a choice not to look at it, or listen to it. In doing so, the intelligent person avoids alot of problems.


But some people actually know about this stuff, and spend 19 waking hours looking at it. I think that explains alot.

It would likely help if you used all that time of yours to do something productive. You'd be alot happier, and alot less paranoid about the NWO infected Hollywood paradigm.
You see, if Hollywood has a profound effect on anyone, it is generally a sign that they are allowing it to, and that's a profound weakness....




Caana
Some of you write well, so how about giving us some history on Racana? May as well try and Spruce this thread up by doing so. Also, you can't believe the written words of any religion, as it pertains to what they believe it means, not what it actually is.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (Caana @ Feb 16 2008, 02:47 PM) *
Some of you write well, so how about giving us some history on Racana? May as well try and Spruce this thread up by doing so. Also, you can't believe the written words of any religion, as it pertains to what they believe it means, not what it actually is.

Dude. I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with you. Boo ya!
jaylemurph
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 16 2008, 12:55 PM) *
Jayle... i look at a dollar bill and see 13 stars, 13 stripes, 13 arrows, 13 leaves & berries, 13 layers of the pyramid, 13 words in e pluribus unum(out of many, one) and annuit coeptis(favor undertakings), 32 feathers on one side, 13 weird dot things next to the pyramid, which ofcourse holds the all seeing eye inside the triangle of providence, and spells out mason when you see the pentagram the pyramid makes. We have had 25 KNOWN masonic presidents, including 17 masons who signed the declaration of independence. Before you post your useless "i cant disprove you but your wrong" or "that 1 detail was wrong so the whole thing was wrong", take a minute of your time and say "what if?" thats all it takes, nothing is accomplished by people who cant even have an open enough mind to find out for themselves. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STUDY MYRON C FAGAN!!!!


Yes, and if you make yourself forget there were, in fact, 13 original states you might almost ascribe a sinister meaning to all that. And please don't trouble us with the ridiculous allegation that we were manipulated into that number by the Nebulous Meanies. As usual, your ignorance of history and meaning isn't evidence of anything (else).

--Jaylemurph
bee
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Feb 16 2008, 09:02 PM) *
Yes, and if you make yourself forget there were, in fact, 13 original states you might almost ascribe a sinister meaning to all that. And please don't trouble us with the ridiculous allegation that we were manipulated into that number by the Nebulous Meanies.



Noooooooo.......not the......Nebulous Meanies.....say it aint so....(oh, you just did.. wink2.gif )
crystal sage
I always thought some precursers to the Illuminati existed before the time of the Medici...fronted ..or disguised as the humanists...

http://www.watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-3.html
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In his book, The Top Thirteen Illuminati Bloodlines, Fritz Springmeier connected the Medici with other Merovingians as co-founders of the Prieuré de Sion: ...

QUOTE
http://www.pfo.org/illumint.htm
. French sociologist Jacques Ellul said the Illuminati was founded in the eleventh century by disciples of Joachim of Floris. It was vanquished in 1507.

2. National Review has stated Joachim’s followers still exist.

3. French cabalist Eliphas Levi claimed the Illuminati was founded by Zoroaster in Persia and introduced to Europe by the Knights Templar in the twelfth century.

4. Levi also states in his History of Magic that the Holy Vehn (medieval Catholic version of the Ku Klux Klan) was the enforcer for the Illuminati.

5. Arkin Darual, in History of Secret Societies, identifies Hassan Sabbah as the founder of the Illuminati in 1092.

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http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/JEE_JUN/JOAC..._11451202_.html

http://www.ariescomputer.com/illuminati/about/ill2.html
http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article125.html
The Illuminati

“Popular history texts and encyclopedias generally paint the Illuminati as having its origins in 1776 Bavaria. However, the origins go back much further. The Illuminati are tied directly through masonry to the sun and Isis cults of ancient Egypt.

“The term “Illuminati” was used by one early writer, Menendez Pelayo, as early as 1492 and is attributable to a group known as the “Alumbrados” of Spain. The Alumbrados were said to receive secret knowledge from an unknown higher source, resulting in superior human intelligence. This group was condemned by an edict of the Grand Inquisition in 1623, in what was another battle in the long-running war between the catholic Church and the secret societies.

“Some writers claim that a group known as the “Illumined Ones” was founded by Joachim of Floris in the eleventh century and taught a primitive, supposedly Christian doctrine of “poverty and equality.” This tactic to disguise Illuminism behind a thin veil of Christianity is now a well-established theme. Later, this group is said to have become violent, plundering the rich and thereby discrediting Christianity as a whole.

“Still other writers trace the Illuminati to the dreaded Ishmalean sect of Islam, also known as “the Assassins.” Founded in 1090 by Hassan Sabah, this group combined the use of the drug hashish with murder as their main path to illumination.

“Killing was a mystical experience to this branch of the Mystery Schools. They not only maintained their control by murder and threats of murder, they believed that the assassin could acquire the gnosis, or soul energy from the victim. This is the theory behind the human and animal sacrifices of Satanists throughout history (and the ritual child abuse etc).

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Here's another disturbing link that I've come across a few times...

http://www.illuminati-news.com/texas-ranger.htm




http://salonesoterica.wordpress.com/2007/1...ssing-children/

http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

jaylemurph
It wouldn't be so bad if you ever did the research learn about and to back up some of the ridiculous claims you present, CS. It seems like you have no appreciation of the truth over sheer possibility*. When you dump all this stuff and 90% per cent of it is utter, utter tripe, it cheapens the 10% of it that's real.

--Jaylemurph

*Of course, this also means that unlike many, many people here, it can't be said that you confuse what you want to believe with what's real. You seem to believe everything equally.
Caana
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Feb 16 2008, 08:56 PM) *
Dude. I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with you. Boo ya!


Ha! wink2.gif
crystal sage
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Feb , 10:22 AM)
It wouldn't be so bad if you ever did the research learn about and to back up some of the ridiculous claims you present, CS. It seems like you have no appreciation of the truth over sheer possibility*. When you dump all this stuff and 90% per cent of it is utter, utter tripe, it cheapens the 10% of it that's real.

--Jaylemurph

*Of course, this also means that unlike many, many people here, it can't be said that you confuse what you want to believe with what's real. You seem to believe everything equally.

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Yes.. I believe in equality in all things... thumbsup.gif cool.gif

yes.. I gather I have to at least tithe my 10% to the tax of accepted reality...
jaylemurph
QUOTE (crystal sage @ Feb 16 2008, 07:47 PM) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Yes.. I believe in equality in all things... thumbsup.gif cool.gif

yes.. I gather I have to at least tithe my 10% to the tax of accepted reality...


I think 10% is fine. Still -- as I've always said, the sheer amount of information you process is amazing. And you have a wonderful sense of humor!

--Jaylemurph
HumanTorch
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 15 2008, 12:05 AM) *
It is no coincidence that the eye of horus is on the $1 bill. We have had 34 mason presidents already since the founding of america(which was founded mostly by masons also). The eye of horus was a sacred symbol of egypt,
It was referred to as "The All-seeing eye(Think tolkien)", also horus was depicted as a falcon, or with a falcon head. The Egyptian religion was a religion who worshipped light, mostly of the sun. The sun was horus(in legend he was killed and resurrected, just like jesus, infact do a google search for horus/jesus similarities. But it doesnt stop there, AT ALL. Bhudda, Gilgamesh, Beowulf... and many many other deities who are currently being worshipped today are all Horus. It is not so hard to believe that Religious stories were recycled, but sadly this was all engineered by an opponent who sits atop the world oppressing information, the most powerful force in the universe.

Now that you know that most major religions are unbeknownst to themselves worshipping horus, this is where things get... really... really... creepy. Horus was also referred to as a "bringer of light". In the Bible the "bringer of light" was none other than Lucifer(as the name means the same). So now we have a mass of innocent people worshipping satan. Is it any wonder christians are constantly plagued with demons? This also means these people are worshipping the sun. NOT GOOD. Why? Well, now we have to start on something totally different.

Disney. Disney makes kids movies, Yay!!! We've all seen the innocent movies made by this company. What you might have heard is that disney adds subliminal messages to their movies(mostly encouraging sex). If you do not believe this then stop reading here, because the rest is even MORE CRAZY! ROFL.

Nearly every disney movie hits on one subject. Wishing on a star. Now what is the "star" they are talking about? The star is the actor. The actors and actresses living on top of the world. Now i tell you the government is involved and i await flaming... but before we get too off track id just like to say a few things. The goal of the Elite is to keep the populace:
1) afraid
2) unhealthy(body and mind)
3) well-fed(ever been called a consumer?)
4) pre-occupied
5) extremely sexually active(for fatigue and the inability to think due to loss of prana)
6) the most important, HYPNOTISED.

The movie the matrix makes a few good points about this. The "lady in red" Created by the character "mouse". Another REALLY GOOD WORD FOR THIS IS MANIFESTED!!!
Mouse "Manifests" the "lady in red". The The training program neo is seduced, only to see a gun pointed in his face. Before mouse is killed he is looking at the lady in red.
Now the creepy part...
The movie "Weird Science" is about how 2 young whipper snappers feed info into a computer and "manifest" Kelly Lebrock. She comes out of a weird red hole in the wall, looking sexy as ever. SHE IS THE LADY IN RED!!!!!
The Lady that seduces and destroys men... If you dont get it yet this next one is a shocker!!!
CALL ME CRAZY, CALL ME A HERETIC! But throughout history, those who were branded heretics for their beliefs were 99% of the time 100% correct.

how do i know, beyond a shadow of a doubt kelly lebrock was one of many ladies in red? well, lets just take a look at the title of a movie she played in.... "lady in red" Ever seen that one?

Another goal of the Elite is to make everyone into sun worshippers.
A youtube clip to get my point across...
Religion is BS George Carlin

Now that you know where the psychological warfare is coming from, On to physical Warfare.
Drugs... being administered under the guise of "medicine" is INSANE!!!! Have you read the side-effects???????? I mean, if i take some headache drugs, then i get diheria, cramps, and ulcers. If i take diheria drugs i have to deal with headache, bowel pain, cramps, etc, etc. Our own medical institute is killing us.... Our own colleges are destroying knowledge, Our news misinforms us, Our space program from the moon apparently doesnt have any documentation on how they did it(we never went to the moon, it was hollywood. good job to all those who spotted that one, i apologize for calling you all insane). DONT watch TV, Throw off the hypnotists you call celebrities and embrace the ONE TRUE THING YOU HAVE IN YOUR LIFE. You. YOU are a free-thinking individual, do not be tempted by todays society, it is a massive problem of the individual to actually be an individual.
And that is precisely what we were conditioned for, a mass conscience is easier to control than 6 billion free thinking people.

And finally id like to close by saying we are in a horribly dire situation. The two towers were just the begining of the end, and with noone raising A MASSIVE ANARCHIAL FIST to our government the elite realise how "in the pocket" the masses are... it is a sad, sad, day and i fear america will soon be a massive third world slave country. They already have hundreds of concentration camps...


yea and my uncle's brother's coworker's son is jesus
corporatepunishment
QUOTE (Zaus @ Feb 15 2008, 05:05 AM) *
It is no coincidence that the eye of horus is on the $1 bill. We have had 34 mason presidents already since the founding of america(which was founded mostly by masons also). The eye of horus was a sacred symbol of egypt,
It was referred to as "The All-seeing eye(Think tolkien)", also horus was depicted as a falcon, or with a falcon head. The Egyptian religion was a religion who worshipped light, mostly of the sun. The sun was horus(in legend he was killed and resurrected, just like jesus, infact do a google search for horus/jesus similarities. But it doesnt stop there, AT ALL. Bhudda, Gilgamesh, Beowulf... and many many other deities who are currently being worshipped today are all Horus. It is not so hard to believe that Religious stories were recycled, but sadly this was all engineered by an opponent who sits atop the world oppressing information, the most powerful force in the universe.

Now that you know that most major religions are unbeknownst to themselves worshipping horus, this is where things get... really... really... creepy. Horus was also referred to as a "bringer of light". In the Bible the "bringer of light" was none other than Lucifer(as the name means the same). So now we have a mass of innocent people worshipping satan. Is it any wonder christians are constantly plagued with demons? This also means these people are worshipping the sun. NOT GOOD. Why? Well, now we have to start on something totally different.

Disney. Disney makes kids movies, Yay!!! We've all seen the innocent movies made by this company. What you might have heard is that disney adds subliminal messages to their movies(mostly encouraging sex). If you do not believe this then stop reading here, because the rest is even MORE CRAZY! ROFL.

Nearly every disney movie hits on one subject. Wishing on a star. Now what is the "star" they are talking about? The star is the actor. The actors and actresses living on top of the world. Now i tell you the government is involved and i await flaming... but before we get too off track id just like to say a few things. The goal of the Elite is to keep the populace:
1) afraid
2) unhealthy(body and mind)
3) well-fed(ever been called a consumer?)
4) pre-occupied
5) extremely sexually active(for fatigue and the inability to think due to loss of prana)
6) the most important, HYPNOTISED.

The movie the matrix makes a few good points about this. The "lady in red" Created by the character "mouse". Another REALLY GOOD WORD FOR THIS IS MANIFESTED!!!
Mouse "Manifests" the "lady in red". The The training program neo is seduced, only to see a gun pointed in his face. Before mouse is killed he is looking at the lady in red.
Now the creepy part...
The movie "Weird Science" is about how 2 young whipper snappers feed info into a computer and "manifest" Kelly Lebrock. She comes out of a weird red hole in the wall, looking sexy as ever. SHE IS THE LADY IN RED!!!!!
The Lady that seduces and destroys men... If you dont get it yet this next one is a shocker!!!
CALL ME CRAZY, CALL ME A HERETIC! But throughout history, those who were branded heretics for their beliefs were 99% of the time 100% correct.

how do i know, beyond a shadow of a doubt kelly lebrock was one of many ladies in red? well, lets just take a look at the title of a movie she played in.... "lady in red" Ever seen that one?

Another goal of the Elite is to make everyone into sun worshippers.
A youtube clip to get my point across...
Religion is BS George Carlin

Now that you know where the psychological warfare is coming from, On to physical Warfare.
Drugs... being administered under the guise of "medicine" is INSANE!!!! Have you read the side-effects???????? I mean, if i take some headache drugs, then i get diheria, cramps, and ulcers. If i take diheria drugs i have to deal with headache, bowel pain, cramps, etc, etc. Our own medical institute is killing us.... Our own colleges are destroying knowledge, Our news misinforms us, Our space program from the moon apparently doesnt have any documentation on how they did it(we never went to the moon, it was hollywood. good job to all those who spotted that one, i apologize for calling you all insane). DONT watch TV, Throw off the hypnotists you call celebrities and embrace the ONE TRUE THING YOU HAVE IN YOUR LIFE. You. YOU are a free-thinking individual, do not be tempted by todays society, it is a massive problem of the individual to actually be an individual.
And that is precisely what we were conditioned for, a mass conscience is easier to control than 6 billion free thinking people.

And finally id like to close by saying we are in a horribly dire situation. The two towers were just the begining of the end, and with noone raising A MASSIVE ANARCHIAL FIST to our government the elite realise how "in the pocket" the masses are... it is a sad, sad, day and i fear america will soon be a massive third world slave country. They already have hundreds of concentration camps...

Crazy,Heretic!
Rolci
If they could do it, so can we.
Zaus
QUOTE (MID @ Feb 16 2008, 12:33 PM) *
And you pay attention to Hollywood for what reason?
Why don't you don't exercise the god-given intelligence and freedom you have to NOT LISTEN, and to NOT WATCH this junk...???


Because hollywood is, ironically, telling the truth, the truth we are conditioned to deny as we see it on the screen. And it is the elites communication. This is how i know what i know. Why is it that almost all hollywood movies portraying travel to distant spaces or times depict it as either water, glass(water), or the cuboid stargate?

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Somehow, I think 19 hours awake is far too long for you, and it's especially painful to see you watching all of this crap and inventing symbology and mythology and mind-control and whatever in hell you're talking about and trying to tell us all about it...

CIA MIND CONTROL DOCUMENTS DECLASSIFIED, cant get them without putting yourself on the CIA blue list unfortunately.


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Anyone can watch that Britney Spears video (or any of the others) and instantaneously get a nauseating feeling deep inside. That generally tells one, "I don't like this", and one can rapidly make a choice not to look at it, or listen to it. In doing so, the intelligent person avoids alot of problems.

Yes, an INTELLIGENT person can. We have been conditioned and brain washed, the deep wrenching feeling you get when you see britney spears is 2-fold.
1) she is under mind control... SHE WAS IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION WRITING 666 ON HER HEAD AND SCREAMING ABOUT HOW SHE DIDNT WANT ANY MORE "HANDLERS". Those of you who have read dune know exactly what im talking about, and it is no joke, it is a mass network of information spun to seem unreal. In fact it is in our faces so often we DO seperate it from our reality, otherwise.... when the truth is uncovered,
YOU SOUND CRAZY TO EVERYONE ELSE!!!!

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But some people actually know about this stuff, and spend 19 waking hours looking at it. I think that explains alot.


...you blind fool, i said i was UP for 19 hours... please read my post thoroughly before arguing(i know its hard for you to think straight, we are all victims)

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It would likely help if you used all that time of yours to do something productive. You'd be alot happier, and alot less paranoid about the NWO infected Hollywood paradigm.
You see, if Hollywood has a profound effect on anyone, it is generally a sign that they are allowing it to, and that's a profound weakness....


EXACTLY!!! and look how weak we have become... i dont know about you, but ever since i was a kid i always felt totally out of touch after going to the movie theater, it didnt take me forever to figure out why.
BTW i do not own a TV, nor will i ever have one.

And now, the reason and means of JFK's death. JFK tried to awaken people, but the propaganda machine and mind control tactics kept it from blowing up
What did JFK try to do?

There is nothing more i can do to open your eyes, you must do it yourself, and damn the man who refuses to think for himself in the corrupt world we live in(because that is the elite's power). If we truly wanted to clean up this country all it would take is the masses to be on the same page. In that case the elite are powerLESS and we could theoretically take back our country and stop the mass drugging and unsanitary food practises.
They give you drugs if your not sane,
They give you drugs if your stomach hurts,
They tell you to take drugs during childbirth,
When you have a headache,
When you cant sleep,
When you sleep too much,
and, since 2004, we have been eating virus infected meats, and people wonder where "staph" comes from... i dont think the american people will survive much longer, seeing as to how things are going now.

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Jayle... i look at a dollar bill and see 13 stars, 13 stripes, 13 arrows, 13 leaves & berries, 13 layers of the pyramid, 13 words in e pluribus unum(out of many, one) and annuit coeptis(favor undertakings), 32 feathers on one side, 13 weird dot things next to the pyramid, which ofcourse holds the all seeing eye inside the triangle of providence, and spells out mason when you see the pentagram the pyramid makes. We have had 25 KNOWN masonic presidents, including 17 masons who signed the declaration of independence. Before you post your useless "i cant disprove you but your wrong" or "that 1 detail was wrong so the whole thing was wrong", take a minute of your time and say "what if?" thats all it takes, nothing is accomplished by people who cant even have an open enough mind to find out for themselves. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STUDY MYRON C FAGAN!!!!

Yes, and if you make yourself forget there were, in fact, 13 original states you might almost ascribe a sinister meaning to all that. And please don't trouble us with the ridiculous allegation that we were manipulated into that number by the Nebulous Meanies. As usual, your ignorance of history and meaning isn't evidence of anything (else).

--Jaylemurph


You made it to 13 stars...
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Before you post your useless "i cant disprove you but your wrong" or "that 1 detail was wrong so the whole thing was wrong", take a minute of your time and say "what if?" thats all it takes, nothing is accomplished by people who cant even have an open enough mind to find out for themselves. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STUDY MYRON C FAGAN!!!!


"All truth passes through 3 stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
~ Arthur Schopenhauer ~

Now on to masons, if you dont know much about masons here's
10000 famous masons, follow the family lines, i DARE you!
DONTEATUS
Any ideas on the 40 yr old woman at the UN building this sun? sad.gif
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You mean this story? UN Building
Start your conspiratorial theories now!
crystal sage
My pet peeve are the vaccinations!!!!

You can't go to school unless you've had them... you are constantly pressured into having them...
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http://poisonevercure.150m.com/population_control.htm

Eventually efforts for worldwide propaganda to "create demand" for population-control technologies developed. "Development of a worldwide political and popular commitment to population stabilization is fundamental to any effective strategy. This requires the support and commitment of key LDC (lesser developed countries) leaders. This will only take place if they clearly see the negative impact of unrestricted population growth and believe it is possible to deal with this question through governmental action ...We must take care that our activities should not give the appearance...of an industrialized country policy directed against the LDS"....later calling for " integrating population factors in national plans, particularly (within) health services, education, agricultural resources and development" also suggesting "population policies and family-planning programs to major sectors of development: health, nutrition, agriculture, education, social services, organized labor, women's activities, and community development". To further sharpen their intent, the document recommends integrating family planning with health programs "Finally, providing integrated family panning and health services on a broad basis would help the U.S. contend with the ideological charge that the U.S. is more interested in curbing the numbers of LDC people than it is in their future and well-being". In regards to assistance required by the LCD, "Country Assistance Strategy Papers and Development Assistance Program multi-year papers...Since population growth is a major determinant of increases in food demand....the allocation of scarce PL480 (food) resources should take account of what steps a country is taking in population control as well as food production."

To further warn against actions that might uncover this hideous plan, "In these sensitive relationships, however, it is important in style as well as substance to avoid the appearance of coercion." Where resistance is clearly present, other organizations, agencies...etc take part in establishing population initiatives. Another recommendation was the use of satellite communications for propaganda.

(You've just read a summary and quotes from an excellent article written by Jean Guilfoyle...NSSM2000:blueprint for de-population)

After thorough research, I've come to the conclusion that the "devil" behind the population control agenda is UNICEF which operates under the guise of "helping the world's children." Though this was the original intent of this United Nations Agency, it has given pro-family organizations reason to believe it's been dabbling with the population control agenda of the UN. Vaccines approach the stage as the new tool for population control. Infertility vaccines have played a role in coercive population control programs in the Third World.

Scientists from Bristol University in England have discovered a protein, named GPX5, in human males which protects sperm from damage. GPX5 is reportedly manufactured naturally only in the reproductive tract, and scientists aim to attack the body's natural release of the protein. The other side of this project is creating a vaccine that would cause the body to create anti-bodies to GPX5, which would disable protection of the sperms. In the National Post (NP) reports that Glaxo, a large pharmaceutical company, is pursuing the research which Dr. Len Hall heads.

UNICEF's campaign to immunize Nigeria's children with polio is accused of being a front for sterilizing the country. Dr. Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist in Zaria, took samples of the vaccine to labs in India for analysis. Using technology recommended by the World Health Organization (WHO), he found evidence of serious contamination. He stated that, "some of the things we discovered in the vaccines are harmful, toxic; some have direct effect on the human reproductive system...I and some other professional colleagues who are Indians who were in the lab could not believe the discovery."

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http://www.thatsfit.com/2007/03/11/hpv-vac...se-infertility/

HPV vaccine might cause infertility
Merck has stopped promoting the mandatory use of Gardasil that targets the human papillomavirus (HPV). It's probably no coincidence that their turn-around comes at the same time that reports from the National Vaccine Information Center are surfacing about fainting and dizziness reported by dozens of patients as side effects of Gardasil. There are also some concerns that Gardasil may cause infertility.

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http://www.medicalaccountability.net/essay_gardasil.html
Is the HPV vaccine safe?
Can the HPV vaccine actually make infection worse?
The study showed an increase in pre-cancer related to the vaccine types in the people who already had these infections before they got the vaccine. It is possible that when infected girls whose immune systems have not cleared the virus from their bodies are vaccinated, the vaccine may lead to an increased number of cases of a pre-cancer. This is very concerning, because there is no routine test you can get in your doctor's office that will tell if you are already infected by a vaccine type HPV before you get the vaccine.

How does the HPV vaccine affect fertility? Birth defects? Risk of cancers? Breast milk?
Five subjects who got the Merck vaccine around the time of conception had babies with birth defects, whereas no birth defects occurred in this time period in the subjects who got dummy shots. The manufacturer also specifies that the vaccine has not been tested to see whether it could cause cancer. It is not known if the vaccine virus-like proteins or the antibodies pass into the breast milk. Merck says that it should not be given to pregnant women.

The longest portion of the study only lasted just under four years. Thus there is no long term data on how it affects the ability to become pregnant (fertility). This is especially concerning because the FDA has approved the vaccine for as young as 9 year old girls. The effect of artificially influencing the immune system during a time of tremendous hormone shifts of puberty is unknown. The package insert specifies that the vaccine has not been tested for altering genes in the patient or her future children (genotoxicity).

Comparison to other vaccines
Hepatitis B vaccine was rushed to the market and broadly administered to young people in the absence of adequate human safety testing. It is now one of the most common vaccines reported to the Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting System, particularly for gastrointestinal problems, arthritis and multiple sclerosis. The new HPV vaccine uses aluminum and polysorbate, two substances known to cause cancer in laboratory animals and to alter immune responses.

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My pet peeve are the vaccinations!!!!

You can't go to school unless you've had them... you are constantly pressured into having them...


Look at the bright side...




Micro-chipp'n isn't mandatory...




Yet.



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jaylemurph
*sigh

Yes, because they don't work unless *everybody* gets them. Or do you just have a sick (sorry -- bad pun) desire to suffer pointless disease AND infect others?

--Jaylemurph
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