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Sporkling
I would just wish to ask, how do you think the triangle consumes ships and planes?
HumanTorch
its a common fact that there is a unusual amount of storms there.They easily swallow unknowing pilots or captians
Obsin
There are?? Wow, funny considering i live in Bermuda and I can't seem to tell the difference between the frequency of storms here and the frequency in the other places in the world I've lived. Let's ask folk in Miami, since they hit one part of the triangle. Let also asks folks in the Bahamas since they hit the southernmost end. There is no "triangle" of doom, destruction, and despair. Itty bitty ships + big ol' ocean = chance for things to disappear.
CrOM_94
maybe it's a disorder in the electromagnetic field of the earth that causes the human brain and the devices to malfunction. We know that electromagnetic waves can interfere with our brain and can also cause electric devices to malfunction.


This is my theory.
Lightning88
the storm therie is wrong.because of one simple FACT,many things go missing there during sunny days.the elecromegnetic stuff makes sense for why planes go down but does not explain the boats.the best thing i heard that comes close to explaining it in my mind is that gasses relesed from the ocean floor in large amounts sink ships within seconds.tlc or disc did a show on it.but i cant remember the name.when the gasses are relessed the ship above can fall100 feet in a second instantly being sunk,that explains the lack of s.o.s calls when that gas hit a plane above it can cause the engine to stall instantly.but personly i think it's a few different things,like electro,gas,and storms etc

But many people claim atlantis had a power source that now messes up systems,or aliens took them,or wormholes,etc

I cant wait to think what people think.
great thread btw
Lightning88
I set up a poll on this in urban legends.a few minutes ago.check it.
OptimisticSkeptic
...is a media myth that won't die, spawned by the marketing of a cheezzzzzeee book from the '70s. Suckers keep buyin' the books, though. Obsin made some really good points that seem to have flown right over the heads of some.

There are others:

1. There are no more mysterious disappearances here than anywhere else. In other words, stuff gets lost all over the world.
2. There are no strange forces being detected here that aren't also "detected" elsewhere. Stuff breaks all over the world.
3. There are no magical mists occurring here (but there may be methane hydrate) that can't be explained. Stuff called fog happens all over the world.
4. Flight 19 was a tragedy, but never a mystery to any of the witnesses and folks who were involved. Years later, again for marketing reasons, this was dredged up to make a buck. Stuff gets done to separate suckers from their money all over the world.

Nothing new or exciting in any of that.
OptimisticSkeptic
Ohhhh... But The Fantastic Journey was fun to watch, and The Bermuda Depths scared the carp out of me, but I was 8 years old then, too.
Lightning88
you are a skeptic indeed.flight 19 was a mystery then and now also the plane sent to find it also vanished.many ships and planes still go missing every year there more often than any other place.
Mademoiselle
QUOTE (CrOM_94 @ Feb 17 2008, 09:01 PM) *
maybe it's a disorder in the electromagnetic field of the earth that causes the human brain and the devices to malfunction. We know that electromagnetic waves can interfere with our brain and can also cause electric devices to malfunction.


This is my theory.



I'm close to thinking that, too.
Mattshark
QUOTE (Sama @ Feb 18 2008, 12:27 AM) *
I'm close to thinking that, too.

Points to optimisticskeptic's post, you should read it.


Notice how many flights to Bermuda don't disappear.
HumanTorch
Ships sink. Pilots make errors. All it takes is one little mistake to get shipwrecked or crash. the bubble theory is probable but we should just accept it may be coincidences because unless someone comes with 100% scientific proof of the reason of the occurrences there will always be different theories
Orcseeker
Storms are off the list, a pilot was on radio contact saying the weather was fine and stuff then the radio suddenly went dead. Your looking at a complicated phenomenon.
sumthingnice60
QUOTE (Orcseeker @ Feb 17 2008, 09:40 PM) *
Storms are off the list, a pilot was on radio contact saying the weather was fine and stuff then the radio suddenly went dead. Your looking at a complicated phenomenon.

Magnetism plays a big role in messing up compasses and communications systems. This is where earth's magnetic north coincides with geographical north.
Mattshark
QUOTE (Orcseeker @ Feb 18 2008, 06:40 AM) *
Storms are off the list, a pilot was on radio contact saying the weather was fine and stuff then the radio suddenly went dead. Your looking at a complicated phenomenon.

Or more accurately it is nothing, because there really is nothing. Nothing unusual, nothing mysterious. Nothing.
Lightning88
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Feb 18 2008, 07:13 AM) *
Or more accurately it is nothing, because there really is nothing. Nothing unusual, nothing mysterious. Nothing.

In my poll,so far it's a tie beetwen multiple stange things and storms.at 26% then 7% aliens 7%gas 13% nothing strange and 20%electromagnetic fields.I'll keep you guys/girls updated once a day.and if you havent voted yet plz do.
__sarah__
i think its to do with electronic and magnetic phenomena. grin2.gif
wizzosis
There's nothing supernatural about the Bermuda Triangle. It's a stormy area.
Lightning88
QUOTE (wizzosis @ Apr 3 2008, 08:03 AM) *
There's nothing supernatural about the Bermuda Triangle. It's a stormy area.

i cant find record of anything unexplained since 05.
HArMoNIc_RaIN
Magnetic interference probably gives the best valid explanation. Who knows before the last pole shift, Bermuda used to be one of the poles or maybe it is the most exact centrepoint for the current poles and compasses go haywire from not being able to determine if its north or south.
Obsin
Hmmm ... And yet still nothing weird has happened to Bermuda in the few months since I first posted in this thread. I suggest people take a trip to this isle of mines and find out about the triangle first hand as local fishermen and piolets laugh in your face and bust your ego.
Lightning88
QUOTE (Obsin @ Jul 27 2008, 09:29 PM) *
Hmmm ... And yet still nothing weird has happened to Bermuda in the few months since I first posted in this thread. I suggest people take a trip to this isle of mines and find out about the triangle first hand as local fishermen and piolets laugh in your face and bust your ego.

are you serious? ..........get a life.
Marby
I'm originally a Miami girl. Though I grew up in North Florida, most of my family resides in Miami, and like anyone else, we spent a lot of time out on the ocean, in it, above it, etc. There is nothing supernatural or weird about the Bermuda Triangle. If you research the incidents, most have been spun to create a mystery, and those that are unexplained are simply ocean casualties. People do get lost at sea, no matter what sea we're talking about. Hate to break it to folks, but looking beyond the hype will put things in perspective. Lloyds of London insures many a merchant vessel, and their long list of records do not show a higher number of incidents in this area than anywhere else.

Anyone that has spent time in this particular part of the world knows that the warmer months where people are more apt to be out on the ocean is also the wet season. That means storms. Storms that crop up seemingly out of nowhere every afternoon.
Obsin
QUOTE (silverracerkh2005 @ Jul 27 2008, 10:54 PM) *
are you serious? ..........get a life.


I am serious. Come to my island and other areas that touch the Bermuda triangle. Talk to people who have been out on the waters i.e. pilots and fishermen; and prepare to be laughed in your face ("Oh you actually believe in that stuff kid? I was alive before that silly legend even existed"). A true researcher needs to actually get down and dirty and go to a place to find out what it is all about, not sit on an armchair from afar and make presumptions (like these Chinese businessmen made news on my isle because they were afraid to come here due to a fear their plane would disappear in the Bermuda Triangle. Ah we locals had a good laugh at that). And I have a life. It's great. What about you bub? Come to my island if you dare. Hop on a plane, rent a hotel room, rent a scooter and start asking around. grin2.gif

Bermuda's premier newspaper:

www.theroyalgazette.com

Your starting place for your Bermuda vacation:

www.bermuda.com

Oh, and take a trip to Florida too. Like the poster above, Miami is supposed to be a Bda Triangle hot spot but nothing weird seems to be going on there either. Instead, while you're there, indulge in one of the beautiful women prowling South Beach. Bring some friends, it'll be worth your while.

Yea, I just wanted to stoke the fires a bit. I can't believe people still believe in this stuff, well I can, but be ready to back things up and not just defend what you know about an area from purely a book when there is a big wide world out there hungry for adventurers (read factual books that look at both sides of the issue, explore the region and ask the locals, check the cold hard statistics). Let's be realistic. Late night trolling. grin2.gif
Marby
QUOTE (Obsin @ Jul 28 2008, 10:56 AM) *
I am serious. Come to my island and other areas that touch the Bermuda triangle. Talk to people who have been out on the waters i.e. pilots and fishermen; and prepare to be laughed in your face ("Oh you actually believe in that stuff kid? I was alive before that silly legend even existed"). A true researcher needs to actually get down and dirty and go to a place to find out what it is all about, not sit on an armchair from afar and make presumptions (like these Chinese businessmen made news on my isle because they were afraid to come here due to a fear their plane would disappear in the Bermuda Triangle. Ah we locals had a good laugh at that). And I have a life. It's great. What about you bub? Come to my island if you dare. Hop on a plane, rent a hotel room, rent a scooter and start asking around. grin2.gif

Bermuda's premier newspaper:

www.theroyalgazette.com

Your starting place for your Bermuda vacation:

www.bermuda.com

Oh, and take a trip to Florida too. Like the poster above, Miami is supposed to be a Bda Triangle hot spot but nothing weird seems to be going on there either.

Yea, I just wanted to stoke the fires a bit. I can't believe people still believe in this stuff. Late night trolling. grin2.gif



It's funny how people like to sensationalize things rather than get the real story from the locals and do the research into supposedly mysterious disappearances. I really don't understand how on earth this myth has persisted.
Obsin
QUOTE (Marby @ Jul 28 2008, 05:02 AM) *
It's funny how people like to sensationalize things rather than get the real story from the locals and do the research into supposedly mysterious disappearances. I really don't understand how on earth this myth has persisted.


They still sell Bermuda Triangle books. I guess people love a good mystery about an area where strange things go on - the myth has persisted for so long. And people aren't really encouraged to question or develop a healthy sense of skepticism. The truth - the sea is a hard place and is not for the inexperienced - people do die and all the time. It seems so conquerable to us as we sit in our cozy homes and hear about people braving the oceans, but the open oceans are no joke. You slip and get tossed over board into choppy waters, the current takes your boat far out and there you go another victim of the Bermuda Triangle.
Marby
QUOTE (Obsin @ Jul 28 2008, 11:15 AM) *
They still sell Bermuda Triangle books. I guess people love a good mystery about an area where strange things go on - the myth has persisted for so long. And people aren't really encouraged to question or develop a healthy sense of skepticism. The truth - the sea is a hard place and is not for the inexperienced - people do die and all the time. It seems so conquerable to us as we sit in our cozy homes and hear about people braving the oceans, but the open oceans are no joke. You slip and get tossed over board into choppy waters, the current takes your boat far out and there you go another victim of the Bermuda Triangle.


You've hit it right on the nose, Obsin. I was taught at an early age to love the sea, but also to respect it. Just because we have modern technologies and a bigger understanding of it than we ever did doesn't mean that we can somehow conquer it. We are land animals, for one, and we still don't know a lot about what's down there. People lose sight of that when they get out on a beautiful ocean and want to play Errol Flynn. When you combine that with the inexperienced tourist going out on the water on their own, of course there will be problems.

It just amazes me that these books even sell. You would think that people would respect the truth even though it's not as sexy.
Ichigo
Guys, if till today ships were to sink at the Bermuda Triangle it would be a big headline in the news. and the bermuda triangle is a hot spot for tourists. so get real!
llynx
Anyone know about the Philadelphia experiment and the Mantauk Projects and their findings and the possible connection to the position of the triangle on the Earth?

Or am I alone?

Its quite lengthy to explain, so if someone else wants to do it, that would be nice.
Mattshark
QUOTE (Marby @ Jul 28 2008, 10:27 AM) *
I'm originally a Miami girl. Though I grew up in North Florida, most of my family resides in Miami, and like anyone else, we spent a lot of time out on the ocean, in it, above it, etc. There is nothing supernatural or weird about the Bermuda Triangle. If you research the incidents, most have been spun to create a mystery, and those that are unexplained are simply ocean casualties. People do get lost at sea, no matter what sea we're talking about. Hate to break it to folks, but looking beyond the hype will put things in perspective. Lloyds of London insures many a merchant vessel, and their long list of records do not show a higher number of incidents in this area than anywhere else.

Anyone that has spent time in this particular part of the world knows that the warmer months where people are more apt to be out on the ocean is also the wet season. That means storms. Storms that crop up seemingly out of nowhere every afternoon.

Very true there is nothing odd about the area.
Sweetpumper
A couple of pilots experienced something they called 'electronic fog'. You can probably Google it. Interesting.
Marby
QUOTE (Sweetpumper @ Jul 29 2008, 07:57 PM) *
A couple of pilots experienced something they called 'electronic fog'. You can probably Google it. Interesting.


Very interesting. Very freaky, too. I wouldn't want to be in that situation. I'm not some sort of self styled expert on this, just an armchair meteorologist (been through enough hurricanes to make a weather junkie out of me), but the most plausible explanation of the electronic fog is that those airplanes were caught up in the middle of a forming thunderstorm. The electrical charges would interfere with their equipment. As a storm gathers, converges, etc... it will create some bizzare circumstances for anyone flying through it at just the right moment.

One of the guys that experienced this was interviewed on a show I saw recently (Mysteries of the Bermuda Triangle), and the meteorologist that was interviewed regarding this explained it better than I could ever hope to. original.gif
Mattshark
QUOTE (Sweetpumper @ Jul 29 2008, 07:57 PM) *
A couple of pilots experienced something they called 'electronic fog'. You can probably Google it. Interesting.

possibly but the whole thing comes from the US Navy being nice to a moaning mother after her sons incompetence got his entire flight killed.
psyche101
You Might find this link an interesting read.

From the link.


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The Bermuda Triangle is a stretch of the Atlantic Ocean bordered by a line from Florida to the islands of Bermuda, to Puerto Rico and then back to Florida. It is one of the biggest mysteries of our time - that isn't really a mystery.

The term "Bermuda Triangle" was first used in an article written by Vincent H. Gaddis for Argosy magazine in 1964. In the article Gaddis claimed that in this strange sea a number of ships and planes had disappeared without explanation. Gaddis wasn't the first one to come to this conclusion, either. As early as 1952 George X. Sands, in a report in Fate magazine, noted what seemed like an unusually large number of strange accidents in that region.

In 1969 John Wallace Spencer wrote a book called Limbo of the Lost specifically about the triangle and, two years later, a feature documentary on the subject, The Devil's Triangle, was released. These, along with the bestseller The Bermuda Triangle, published in 1974, permanently registered the legend of the "Hoodoo Sea" within popular culture.

Several books suggested that the disappearances were due to an intelligent, technologically advanced race living in space or under the sea.

The only problem was that the mystery was more hype than reality. In 1975 a librarian at Arizona State University, named Larry Kusche, decided to investigate the claims made by these articles and books. What he found he published in his own book entitled The Bermuda Triangle Mystery-Solved. Kusche had carefully dug into records other writers had neglected. He found that many of the strange accidents were not so strange after all. Often a triangle writer had noted a ship or plane had disappeared in "calms seas" when the record showed a raging storm had been in progress. Others said ships had "mysteriously vanished" when their remains had actually been found and the cause of their sinking explained.

More significantly a check of Lloyd's of London's accident records by the editor of Fate in 1975 showed that the triangle was a no more dangerous part of the ocean than any other. U.S. Coast Guard records confirmed this and since that time no good arguments have ever been made to refute those statistics. So the Bermuda Triangle mystery disappeared, in the same way many of its supposed victims had vanished.

Even though the Bermuda Triangle isn't a true mystery, this region of the sea certainly has had its share of marine tragedy.


Ship sinks in storm or FAMILY VANISHES ON OPEN SEA

Which headline would grab your attention?
Marby is onto it, if you want to really find out, go and have a look wink2.gif
Marby
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Jul 30 2008, 01:09 AM) *
possibly but the whole thing comes from the US Navy being nice to a moaning mother after her sons incompetence got his entire flight killed.


That was definitely the case with Flight 19. Some of the family members did not want to accept the fact that their vanished relatives could have been confused.
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