Anyone interested in Edgar Cayce and the information he gave while in trance--if trance is what he was in?

He at one time was worried that the information given through him might be from a negative source.

He also said at one time that all the info. given may not be correct.

I'm sure that anyone who has read the books about him has had or still has questions.

I'm new here so all this may have been gone over before.

Share your thoughts or questions.

Well I admit he is an interesting person, and had some interesting experiences. But as far I know, none of his prophecies came true?

Not that I really studied it in details but I'm sure I read a lot of stuff he said would happen at different times that never occured.

cheers

[quote name='Celtic Spirit' date='Feb 21 2008, 01:00 AM' post='2161387']
Anyone interested in Edgar Cayce and the information he gave while in trance--if trance is what he was in?

He at one time was worried that the information given through him might be from a negative source.

He also said at one time that all the info. given may not be correct.

I'm sure that anyone who has read the books about him has had or still has questions.

I'm new here so all this may have been gone over before.

Share your thoughts or questions.
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The negativity i can understand, yet just because it was negative to him sometimes, does'nt mean that it won't happen. He could see what the hardpoint probability's were, and he could access the knowledge from himself, his own mind. The different advice he gave for different people to help them. What he meant by the information may not being correct, is that when you reach a hardpoint probability, that is when you can change the probability sequence's that follow{what we view as everyday life} And though the next hardpoint is still ahead, the event's prior to it, set up the hardpoint's impact on anything that follows it. Changes.

There is no time, or motion, or distance in your mind. No past, present, or future. Which in turn allows you to view the experiance sequence's that are translated into what we believe to be past, present, or future, or continuity within the illusion that is our percieved reality.

In my own experiance's, i remember him when he wrote that bit about Atlantis. How? well, it is about the simplest, but hardest thing to explain. First, my focus is drawn to someone/subject by my seeing them, either on t.v. or in person, or a book, my mind does the rest. It comes in the form of actual person experiance memory's/vision's, along with the knowledge/information. Does'nt matter if i was even born yet.

It works for both people and book's, new's, even t.v. shows can unlock information. When Cayce was doing it, he was a part of the one he describes as the other. Because of his belief's, he failed to reconize that other, why he was'nt sure if it was the god of his belief, or the negative presence he mentioned/same. What he did'nt understand was that there is no present, though he wrote that there is no past, or future. The sequence's of what is viewed as life, or the percieved reality, is an artificial construct called time by most of us. It can be viewed and understood{knowledge} by those who understand this.

What further clouds the process of understanding, is the belief's formed by the artificial reality, both seeming real, and fantasy, such as religion, which is real to most of it's inhabitant's, and which they think themselves a part of, and subject to it. There are those who are not. Those who are religious try and shape thing's to their belief, and force other's to through either force, or peace disguised in everyday value's through society. Thing's such as that, also serve to keep you from ever seeing through the layers of deciet which keep the majority of people from waking up to what Cayce was experianceing.

I mention that last line, because more and more people are waking up to it, and because of the dreadfull viewpoint's of the religious on such thing's, except for what they want their prophecy's to be, a lot of those people translate their experiance's through the distortment of religion. It is'nt a gift, it is something that specific human being's can do, because it is already their's. Most also don't realize it, because they don't put the focus where it belong's, themselves. When you put it on a belief outside yourself, you just put a barrier between you and yourself, and the ability's that you may have.

Cayce was exceptional, in that he was born into a religious family, and had no choice about it, yet still could realize what he was capable of. I can do it awake, and i'm sure he could to, but at that point in history, he had to make other's think he did'nt have any control over it, in order to be safe from the religious zealot crazy's. And suffering from what such animal's could do, once something was in their belief meter as being not of their imaginary god, of which history abound's with the gory deaths of such individuals from religious animals.

Good topic.

Darkbreed----

Caana---------

The things, to me, that are so interesting about Edgar Cayce are:

Everything that was channeled through him was new to him when he returned to consciousness. Some people who came from other countries to prove him wrong never did. One "doctor" pushed a pen knife under his finger nail while he was under--there was no response -- until he woke up.
All the readings were recorded in writing as they were revealed. (He resented people taking advantage of him, of course.) The most interesting things that was given through him were not prophesies, but the things he told about Atlanta /Eden and the transitions of people from being part animal to what humans are today (not very believable).
And what he said about the time of Jesus. He also gave cures for health problems for people who were hundreds of miles away--all he needed was their location. He could not have faked anything if the records are true. Once he did a reading for someone in Italy and the voice spoke through him in Italian.
When people tried to gain monetarily by asking where gold was or something like that of course they were not going to get accurate info.
Sorry about the hurried way this is put together.

All I remember about Cayce is that he predicted that there would be information about Atlantis or something under the Sphinx. At the time he said this information would be found a sonar like equipment discovered there was something that appeared to be a chamber under the Spinx. However excavation is not allowed.

When i'm talking to someone, say on the internet{does'nt happen all the time} i reconize what has been written, and when i do, i remember what i used to feel, and do before, in that same moment which i am re-experianceing in the percieved present. I see/know any changes, as well as having the knowledge of what was, and will be in some cases. Much of what i see/know deals with all the upcoming troubles were all going to go through pretty soon, why i try not to see to much individual stuff lately, i hate it when i know someone is going to die, and many democrat's in congress are going to.

I don't have to be put out to do it, i have bridged the gap cayce could'nt unless he was out. Why i said he maybe could do it awake. A triangle has four sides, all of them triangles, the three point's that meet to make the top is four. That is the basis behind what is being done in regards to mind and reality, or how it is being projected. Atlantis when he spoke of it, was the least informative, as far as what the public was told. When he was telling it though, it was when he mentioned that negative presence as well. It was the object of his discussion, Atlantis being a real person, or the one who the reality underneath this one mentioned by nostro, is being generated from. Or as the one on the nostro show said, a garden under this one. he did'nt mention the important stuff nostro had written about it though, because it was'nt what the religious want, because it does'nt fit their belief's.

At odd time's i will speak strange sounds that have a definate context, at other's i will look at my living quarters as if for the first time, as far as my awareness is concerned. I have been directed to situations when i have need, and have been given what i need by those who never would even speak to me before, yet i would recieve money or cig's from them for nothing. Like cayce, i seem to be in a perpetual state of mind where people would consider me ignorent, yet then i come out with complex thing's that an ignorent man would never know. Humans were humans before they became part animal like they are here, the evolution cover was to hide the truth, and keep imprisoned those it was made for. What is ending in these last day's.

Back when 9/11 happened, two days prior, i had seen a heavy fighter launch a big missle at the pentagon. Part of the air security of washington turned traitor, because of religion, and was shot down. A female christian zionist, who was part of the plot. When dick cheney's office burned, was when i had seen and known why, and connected it with the pilot and who was behind it all, and why they are doing it. The prez and admin are innocent, the one's behind the democrats are not. And explains why they are stirring thing's up both on the religious side, and the racial side, and play acting being enemy's, to fool the republicans. When it happen's, the dems are going to hit rock bottom, because they are prepared for. Even though dick is publicly shunned by the clinton's, don't let that fool you.

The republican's certainly are'nt, not anymore. I got an image and conversation when president bush was first in office, it was with one of the organization's that knew what the prior prez and admin where up to, and what dick was actually doing. I got one where i could'nt see the face of the man, yet florida had just been nuked, and hilary was crying into her hand's, saying; all those people. The man said to stop her whining, that she and her husband had known what they were in for, and could happen. It was'nt president bush, it was the scum who has orchastrated all this, rockafeller/ried.

Anyway, it is all stuff i can't prove, yet when i had wrote what i did about the fighter and the pentagon, i had an image of the president, and the other people who help to run the nation at the exec branch level, sitting around a table, with dick cheney saying in the hardfaced silence, he know's about it? Dick was co-opted by the administration, his choice was to help make thing's better from the religious mess he and the former admin had planned, or be shot for the traitor he is. Thats were i am at it now, there's more, but i don't want to reveal anything the democrats don't already know, i want those scum to go down hard, what they had planned was horrific for America, a theological wastland. And is still being fought against, to keep it from happening.

As far as what cayce may have said about the bible's jesus, the religious themselves have already killed the lamb, for he was never for them, and their belief's. Actually, what they believe about that time in history now, and the myth of jesus, he would destroy them all, for turning him into what they have.
He was sent to seperate those of the people, from those of the beast, and the beast's, and those of the people who followed them then, and today, turned it into a snare, to entrapp more of the people. For the bible was right about one thing,it is for a specific people, just not those who are jews, who are of the beast. Just read the original king james to know it.

I read that fanciful scientific article on the yahoo new's about the africa thing again, about how they think we all came from there because of their dna stuff. Caucausions are not part of that, whatever they have come up with. Why we are missing most of the dna stuff for evolutionary change, unlike the rest of them, we are not marked by the beast, for we are not of it. Part of the cage's distortment. Well, whether anyone believes it or not, i don't care, i don't believe them{dna theory's} they are just guess's based on evolution.

Anyway, thank's.

All very interesting and shows that you have really studied Cayce and others. Everyone has his/her own perspective on just about everything. When I first studied the life of Cayce I thought how incredibly clear the message is, even though he is hard to understand at times. I do not believe he could do what he did awake nor did he really believe that anyone could do what he could--he was just being modest.

One interesting thing I picked up on was when he gave a description of events and then said, 'And then the fall.' That says a lot. There were people before Adam and Eve. You are probably right about there being people before the part animal part human entities the had to be changed in The Temple. What comes to mind is what is mentioned in the Bible and by Cayce re: The Sons of God and the Son and Daughters of Man.

That is food for contemplation.

Thats actually the point that had been confusing me for awhile during my memory/vision's, let alone the manifestations that had happened to prove to me that what i was seeing, and knowing, actually applies. I did figure out through them, that there were people before mankind, and that they are human, just not what we would, outside of their appearance, consider such, because of the thing's they can do.

That also tie's in with the Atlantis prediction's, as well as the bible story's of those who had been chained, that are called dark angels by the religious. That those humans from the other reality are confined within percieved people here, in the illusion, or the garden on top of the other reality called Atlantis.

I had also figured out that the serpent in the garden, was the garden itself, the illusion of a reality, and the knowledge in that reality which had been described as a tree with fruit. The river's mean what i guess we can call the different probability's within the illusion of time. Water is a prominant theme in a lot of religion's, it's just getting past what they think, versus what it is, that can be confusing.

What promted this inspiration of thought, was a story i had wrote my little grandson for his birthday, i called it, the littleboy who is time. What was prominent in my story, was the waterfall, and stream that had run through the meadow that the littleboy was in, that had somehow called my grandson there. When i wrote that story, i had no idea what i would write, in fact, i did'nt want to write anything, yet i did it without thought, just wrote it.

And if you think about it, the description's in genesis, if you did'nt know the terminology's that we do today, you would describe it with words like garden and the other's, which gives it new meaning if you discover what i have. Atlantis being a rebirth of some sort as well.

In any case all of Edgar Cayce's experiences are only significant as to what all that means to us today, what it tells in relation to what is, was or might be.

I think that as far as the prophecy's themselves go, they only apply to the one who need's to know them, who is the only one who can shift through them all, and find where they do apply.

Anyway, good stuff, later.

I personally believe Edgar Cayce is a fraud.

If you read (if you have not already) 'There is a River' and then if still interested 'The Edgar Cayce Companion' you will see how it would not be possible for him to have been a fraud.
On what do you base your conclusion? If you have made an honest effort to really check out the writings about his life and still think he's a fraud I'd be interested as to what makes you think so.

Words are words and not evidence of anything. I base my opinion on the evidence for which there is none, possible fraud was and never could be ruled out.

If words are not evidence of anything then yours aren't either. What does your second sentence mean? I asked if you had read the books about him--have you? If not there's no point in further discussion. Friendly questions.....

hello celtic spirit, include me in the fan club please ...

as cayce himself said, or rather the source said - let those who are skeptical study the readings.

and there's no excuse for anyone to remain ignorant ,when the readings are available for everyone to view at the A.R.E website.
along with predictions that have came true etc.

i think he was great ,(and along with the direct voice recordings of leslie flint -also available for us to listen to on the internet) are the greatest source of historical records of this nature , available to all. and a source of enlightenment to all, if we are ready for that truth that is. ( and if we are not we will dismiss them with some or other excuse)

i admire his dedication. any anyone who can criticize someone who spent 43 yeas of his life giving help to people with medical problems - and helping them if they could follow the advice . well anyone who can criticise must have extremely high standards!!

and remember that he didnt want to do this untill he finally became convinced that he was indeed helping people. he didn't stop even during the difficult war years when he overtaxed himself to help people, giving far more readings than the source advised. that was not good for his own health. as a result he passed over as a direct result of his desire to help to many people at once.

it was because of him the Bimini stones were found off the Florida keys . He predicted the first and second world wars ( don't know how hard that would have been really ) and the stock market crash 15 years before it happened ( again , could be coincidence). and the dig under the paw of the Sphinx.

although he predicted New York City would be gone by 1998 as well.

I myself don't buy it.

Thank you, almeisan,
I can't understand why some people immediately criticize him without bothering to read about him. I'm not easy to convince but with all the records that were kept and all the witnesses inc. his own family there is no doubt in my mind that he was very gifted.
It's mostly because of him that I believe in spiritual life and reincarnation. He was and is the greatest channel to us since Jesus and should be given more credit for all he did.

Cayce said through a reading that everything coming through him may not be true, and I'm sure there were reasons for that. The most incredible things he could do was "find" a sick person anywhere by being given that persons location and diagnose and give remedies to cure that person. Of course it was not him that traveled there spiritually but the source who would say "we have the body" and then give info.
Re: The prophesies--- How many coincidences can be that accurate?

Did you know there is a guy who claims he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce? He is pretty interesting and got a lot of good stuff so worth checking out.

His name is David Wilcock, and here is some information about him as well as several video interviews about various topics:
http://www.projectcamelot.org/david_wilcock.html

Enjoy

Yes, I read the book about him by Wynn Free with David Wilcock entitled, "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?' I think the question mark at the end of the title is appropriate. I would expect the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce to be a lot more considering his previous incarnations. I'm sorry but that book did not impress me at all. Just now I skipped back through the pages to check what I had underlined but there was nothing of much interest.
I could be way off but that's my take on it.

Well I havn't read any of his books, though I've seen some of the videos with him and read some of the stuff he's working on with Richard Hoagland that is pretty interesting.

Oh and btw, just because you are the reincarnation of someone (which basically all of us are) doesn't mean you will be just like they were, nor will you remember everything or have the same abilities as they did etc.

For all I know I could be the reincarnation of Jesus himself, doesn't make me him though.

I've actually seen one of my past lives and how I died there and I can tell you I don't know much of who that guy was or how my life was except that I was a farmer sometime in the 1500s or so who died by getting my (his) neck cut from a knight on a horse who came to my farm one day.

Anyway check out the videos on the links I posted above, maybe you'll find some of it interesting

Oh and talking about reincarnations, check out Boriska, the boy from Mars, also at the same site just look in the interviews section.

Cheers!

I watched the videos a while back....and I DID enjoy them. Definitely worth watching.
I got a good feeling from David Wilcock....and I like the down-to-earth way he talked about
extraordinary things. He stuck me as a very decent and modest individual.

Is he the re-incarnation of Cayce?

No-one can say for sure....but he very well could be!

Wilcock looks a bit like Cayce and that can happen in reincarnation. Cayce's sons should be able to tell better than anyone--I'd like to hear what they have to say about it. I'm sure they have, but I have not read it ---yet.

Hm indeed, it would be interesting seeing an interview between Wilcock and the sons of Cayce, and see how that would turn out.

Btw, Wilcock does have psychic abilities still, he predicted some things that came true and found out he can see at least 7 year into the future, at least that's what I found from watching the above mentioned videos with him. He can also astral project etc, and told something very interesting about astral projection that Ive never heard anyone else say but it fits exactly with my own astral projection experiences.

Best wishes and good luck in your pursuits!

Darkbreed, I'll check out those vidio's when I'm more awake. Later!!!!!!!!!!!

here is a video discussing edgar's prophecies


video

Thank you almeisan,
It's interesting to watch those videos after having read the books.