Thought these might be intresting for obvious reasons. http://youtube.com/watch?v=I5ZhJ-LPg9o&feature=related here's another one,and no,it is not green screen tech.When i put it on,it looked almost like a silver type cloth. http://youtube.com/watch?v=BlCTb4hUcdU&feature=related

wtf is this real?

No

The first video is done via rear projection... A camera behind the guy and a projector in front. For the objects like the block and sphere they were green and via special effects easily achieved the effect... very similar to how the weatherman does it on TV.

The second video featuring the hoody was just a green shirt or possibly blue and like the first video achieve this in the same manner.

While cloaking technology is being worked on it is still some time off and only in it's infancy. They have only managed to bend infrared light around an object, this has not yet been accomplished using the visible light spectrum.

You couldn't be more wrong.But hey,if you want to argue with the people at Duke university,well,im sure you know more then they do...You know everything.Can i just call you God for short,please?

You can call me whatever you want..

No I'm not wrong although Duke University is working on cloaking technology they are simply not that far ahead. In fact that video while it did feature a keynote speech done at the university it was edited and mixed with footage from Japan.

I am not arguing with the people at Duke doing the work I am arguing with you because you find silly videos on Youtube and say there the real deal. I don't know everything but I know that a true cloaking device/material is still quite some time off probably at least 10 years maybe more.

Since you you say that I am wrong allow me to prove to you I am right with information obtained from Duke University and not Youtube.



This is a pretty recent article from Duke as well... So if in this article they say the materials have not yet been created to accomplish a Harry Potter cloak then how and the hell did some 19 year old make a shirt out of something that doesn't exist?

Fact is there is no working cloaking device yet.

As for the Japanese cloak created by Susumi Tachi and worn by Kazutoshi Obana is nothing more then an optical illusion.

Here is a link



Nothing more then an optical illusion...

In fact as I have said there is no argument between me and those working on the technology at Duke among other places I am simply agreeing with them that the technology is still sometime off as it's still in it's infancy. It is you who disagree with the people at Duke who state that they have not even invented the material yet not to mention clothing.

So no neither one of the videos demonstrates a true cloak because it has yet to be invented by those working hard to accomplish it.

The Japanese invisiblity cloak was never claimed to be anything more than a projection of a camera onto the material for the coat/brick.

That's what I was trying to say but was being told I was wrong, because people don't like to find out what they are talking about first before they post.

Yes this is true,and im not always right.I do admit THAT.This did seem credible,but i just wanted to share what i belived to be a new technology.Plus,i do believe that i was out of line for saying i should call you god.Im sorry,AG..I will investigate into stuff more thouroghly in the future FOR SURE.

You can call me God and feed my ego lol.

I really doubt a full on SCIFI cloak will ever exist where you are completely invisible by bending light around an object. Just too many variables to make it perfect IMO.

Don't say never.

I would say it is likely the peak of this technology will resemble something like in the Predator movies.

Cloaking will not become perfect until we can warp space around us like they do in Star Trek.

I'm at work, so surfing around online for a video is out of the question...but along the same lines - I saw a video on either History or Discovery talking about cloaking/camouflage. I saw a training video of a military troop transport vehicle (not sure what the actual name is, but it was a smaller vehicle that carried maybe 8-10 troops). What they did, was put a whole bunch of cameras on one side of the vehicle, and a whole bunch of mini screens on the other side. They simply took video feed from the back and displayed on the front, and VWUALA!!! An invisible transport vehicle. In the video, if you looked really close it looked like heat waves coming off of the road, but when the vehicle made a turn it was absolutely amazing to watch it "appear out of nowhere".

Not trying to prove any point...just figured you guys would get a kick out of that and may want to look into it a little, that's all.

Yes i know what video you speak of.It was late 1999,and they were showing a troop transport coming up on a house and the vehichle itself rolled up in the bright sun,and it was in a large field type,mostly yellowed tall grass and some bushe's.It wasnt very visible,from all sides by basicly using image transfer via thousands of tiny cameras,(were talking micro) and just transfering the image to the other side to give the illusion of cloaking.It worked pretty well.As i remember it,they were there to take out some crazy cult type's that had squared off against local police and millitary was brought in.They deployed EMP grenades to knock out thier communications,everything from computer to cell phone and every light in the house.Even a flashlight is dead when EMP is used.Then they stormed the place and got everyone.And most of the soldiers were also very well camouflaged with Guille suits.That was almost 10 years ago,and im sure that was just the Declassified tech being shown.The stuff you read in most main street lierature,like wired,or even popular science,is not giving up the whole truth.Try reading Scientific American for a better perspective.And you also have to realize,we are now building faster than light speed vehichles...so you cant even know how much more farther along we really have come.Not like the millitary is going to show you the GOOD STUFF.NOOOO WAAAY.That's why they call it "Classified" not like they want the whole world to know how good our stuff is.Technology info is always A VERY HUSH HUSH,NEED TO KNOW BASIS.So if that video was almost ten years ago,and basicly declassified...think of what they have now.You'll just have to imagine...they wont show you.Or maybe someone will...

Umm... what are you talking about? Setting aside the whole invisible APC thing... it sounds like you're describing a scene from a movie. Afterall, why else would soldiers need to wear ghilly suits? They're just a heat hazard in this type of a situation.

And what faster than light vehicles are we creating? Where did you hear this?

There is no such thing as an EMP grenade or at least not yet. Such a grenade even to knock out power say in a 100 ft radius requires quite a bit of power.

When a house or room is stormed they use flash grenades to blind the enemy so they can quickly move in and over power them.

An EMP wave will knock out any electronic device with a microchip, the biggest misconception is that it will take out anything requiring electricity. A flashlight is a simple circuit and should still work after an EMP has gone off. Transistors are what are really damaged by these waves because is causes arcing which burns out the chip. Most electronic devices now contain a microchip to regulate it's functionality.

The crazy cult types you are talking about were the people killed in Waco Texas on a Ranch, it is known to most as the 'Waco Massacre' in which a lot of people died as the result of the building being fire bombed by the ATF and FBI. At no point during the siege was the military used, and all this happened because they refused to let the ATF exercise a search warrant on the property.

NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,...YOU ARE WRONG ON THIS ONE.I know all about waco texas,and the branch davidian's led by the cult leader David Korish<(spelling?) that IS NOT THE VIDEO.And yes there is EMP grenades.Very real,just as real as alot of technology you dont know about.You dont know more than everyone,do you?(or should i say"do you think you do?") You may know some,but no,not all.Not by a country mile.Obviously.But you believe whatever you want,it's all good.

I can vouche for Allegory....he/she described pretty much to a T what the video was....except for the EMP gernades...which I just honestly don't remember...doesn't mean it didn't happen, I just don't remember. The soldiers were wearing a special kind of camo that made them also nearly invisible...same effect, even through binoculars, the soldiers looked just like heat waves coming off of the road. Which was weird, because they were in a field across the street from the house.

It wasn't an actual combat video or anything, there were cameras in the house and stuff....all set up to show off the technology.

Now, faster than light cars or anything else Allegory said - well....he's on his own with that stuff, but the description of the video was rather accurate.

To quote Elvis...:Thankyouverymuch.

Umm, and what would be the use of EMP grenades? The enemy right now isnt really using electronics on their 50 year old AK 47s, and it would just fry the circuitry in the electronic sights most modern armies have now...



Ahh, I thought he was talking about combat footage.

So... what are the safe measures in place to prevent friendly fire?

Do you always have to come out swinging with a left hook? Don't rip on me just because you gave vague references and made us think that you were talking about real footage.

What technology do I not know about... I did a search trying to find the video you talked about as well as a search on EMP grenades and came back with nothing?

Folks EMP grenades do NOT exist or at least not yet.... There would be no need to hide such a weapon from the public.

As for technology I don't know about what technology don't I know about? Sounds like pure speculation to me.

You want to hold your own then I suggest you pony up some empirical data to not only support your claims of EMP grenades which in real life situations are useless but your other claims as well.



Since this video is a few years old were they showcasing the new camo that looks pixelated? This camo allows you to blend in far better then before with the old blob camo.



But thats not what Allegory told us. The only video I could think of that even resembles the scenario described was the Waco Massacre.

Can you show me which video this guy is talking about?

I think that it should be understood that just because you look something up on the web,dosent mean it will show up.I cant even *IMAGINE* that someone would think they could just google classified information.Sometime's there will be some piece of info,just released to the public,that they make out to be *new technology*.I was There watching the testing of the newer (at the time) microwave weapons.You know the one they make such a big deal about,the weapon is non leathel,(just dont let the beams hit yer eyes) it makes the skin feel like there's a million stinging ants all over your body.They showed this particular piece of equipment last year,saying it is new tech.Umm,i dont think that something that was made 23 years ago is new.But they do sometimes let SOME people look at the new stuff,(obviosly,someone has to make it) and who knows who i am?Here...just so ya feel like im not trying to be all knowing,(im not,and can admit when im wrong) check this: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=120271

Yet you seem to know what they have and dont have!

Then how do you know about it then?



23 years ago the tech was under development and still not yet perfected. To simply put it they may have had a working prototype but until recently it was still not efficient enough for practical military use.

I also make a big deal about the potential harm that directed energy weapons may cause over the long term. Micro/Radio waves can be extremely harmful to the human body at the cellular level.
DARPA did human tests to see what kind of damage long and short term exposure has to these types of weapons over short and long periods of time.... The results from these tests were deemed classified. Many researchers point out that the risks of ailments such as cancer for example are something that need to be seriously investigated and studied. Calling these weapons Non-lethal is a misconception because we simply don't know if they can kill or not.

Directed intense microwaves are certainly more then enough to kill a man.



No one knows who you are but I can tell you that your not someone with access to classified information... People who do have access don't even talk about such things, as the old saying goes 'loose lips, sink ships'.

I think the more apropriate saying would be"Those who know dont talk.Those who talk dont know." So you win again.I dont know anything.Im not even here.I dont even exist.Im a figament of you're imagination.Damm you got a good imagination...lol.It's all good,believe me.Did you check out the link i provided to the other topic i created?About Military tech?That's all OLD STUFF.Look at the date's for the source's.I would like to hear the opinion you have on that.Please.I would Never say anything more then what THEY put out there.Lest the Guys In Grey come a knockin'...Here again: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=120271

No it definately wasn't the new pixalated camo. It was special clothing that cloaked somehow....I honestly don't remember too many details, and the only thing I can vouche for is that I did see the video that was described earlier.




This wasn't actual combat footage. It was set up to showcase new technology.

I don't know. I saw the video a few years back and just remember thinking WOW...they have some cool technology on the horizon. I'm not an expert on the subject by any means. I'm just passing along what I saw....maybe someone on here can scour the net and find a clip of the video.....

It seems to me that the video wasn't showcasing new technology so much as future technology or what the future of ground combat may be like.

Cloaking technology like what you and Allegory described at this point does not yet exist and rear projection while it would be great for aircraft is simply not that applicable on tanks or APC's. However I don't think we are more then 20 years away from technology that would make soldiers invisible.

About the only thing I can find in regards to invisible vehicles is a tank the British made invisible using projectors and cameras etc. To achieve what was described in the video you mention was probably something of similar nature.

Fox News

No reason to get all EMO on us now... I read the link the last time you posted it so don't post it again.

No where does it say anything about an EMP grenade and many of the projects mentioned for example remote viewing has been scrapped to make way for new ones.

It is however no secret that the Americans and British have been developing EMP weapons but not for use in grenades but rather missiles that can knock out a whole countries power grid and communications knocking it back to a dark age. This was discussed on a show called Future Weapons.

No one is saying you don't know anything or that your a moron or anything but making immature posts like the ones above certainly don't make you look good kid.

I'm not even going to attempt to choose a side on this one, but I will say that all the things I've read have said that EMP tech is plausible but the problem arises in the P part of the acronym. EM fields can be generated to create a "jammer" or "dead" effect, but storing the energy and releasing it in one solid, disruptive burst is not yet possible. I can't say if the storage problem is a containment issue or a stability issue, but I know I haven't read about any working use of an EMP device. IMO, the grenade seems to be the least plausible idea of workable builds. It's too small to be completely effective, and the tech to store the amount of energy needed to disrupt say an entire room I would imagine would have to be the size of an old VCR (or thereabouts).

On the invisiblity thing: The second video posted on the topic starter was listed as a "Film & Animation" submission on youtube, so that one was obviously a camera trick trying to emulate the cloak effect from movies like Harry Potter. The first one I'm not going to trying to explain because I'd be lying if I did, but I have seen the "Active Camouflage" technique employing oppositely mounted cameras and screens. As a matter of fact it's been a topic on a couple of Discovery Channel shows. Not that anyone should believe everything they read, see or hear, but I'm willing to bet DC has done it's homework.

I did not say you were calling me a moron.And im not calling you names either.It only shows a lack of control over one's emotion's.But saying im making immature post and calling me a kid dosent help your argument either.Peace.Im just here to give an opinion,or maybe more.But not to anger or argue,just discuss.