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user posted image rPhillip Tilley: Why didn’t Sherlock Holmes have to pay any taxes? Because he had some brilliant deductions. OK, none of us are Sherlock Holmes. It’s that time of year again we all love to hate, when we come to realize there really are only two sure things in life, “debt and taxes”! Some people believe we do not owe the income tax. Red Beckman in his book, “The Law That Never Was”, shows strong evidence the 16th Amendment was never ratified by the necessary majority of states to become law. I was a witness as IRS agents seized his property and drove a bull dozer through his house. No, I am not making that up. The property was then sold to a developer. Recently Ed and Elaine Brown were sent to prison for not paying income taxes. They also believed the income tax to be illegal. Why would they think that? Probably because the U.S. Constitution Article I section 9 clause 4, forbids any direct tax, (the income tax is a direct tax) unless it is apportioned. From 1894-1912 six attempts were made to pass an income tax law and six times the U.S. Supreme Court found them to be unconstitutional. So why do we have an income tax now?

The income tax law was passed by Congress in 1913. The Federal Reserve Act was also passed in 1913. I do not believe in coincidences. It was all part of the clever and sinister conspiracy to create the money matrix. During WWII the government instituted the “Victory Tax”, a withholding of 5% of workers earnings. This was an unlawful tax, but during a time of war no patriotic American would challenge it. Congress repealed the Victory Tax in 1944. In 1943 that same Congress passed the “Tax Payment Act” which is the current method of the government withholding our earnings as an income tax. Although an income tax is unconstitutional, Article 1, sub section 2, clause 3 of the Constitution, the government said the 16th Amendment made it legal. So, is it legal?

Two taxes that are legal are tariffs and excise taxes. Tariffs are taxes on imported goods and are paid to us by other countries. Excise taxes are use taxes like the gas tax that pays for the use and maintenance of our highways. It may surprise you that all the funding to run the country comes from tariffs and excise taxes. So what does the income tax pay for? The interest on the so called national debt, which is paid to private bankers, some of which are not owned by U.S. citizens. No country that pays tribute can continue to prosper.

As to the question of whether the income tax is legal or not, I would say not if we had real money, but of course we don’t. What income is taxed? Federal Reserve Note currency income, and the Federal Reserve Notes are private currency and are not money. You are being taxed for the use of a private currency, which in reality makes the income tax an excise tax.

There is no money, so the tax for the use of a privately issued currency is perfectly legal. Very clever and very sinister and very much a conspiracy. If we had real money it would be a crime. Wake up people, the money matrix has you.

Phillip Tilley is the author of The Money Matrix of the New World Order and other articles.
ships-cat
Income Tax is used exclusively to pay of interest on the national debt ?

SURELY that's not correct ? This guy sounds a bit nutty.

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Sweetsalem82103
I wouldn't be surprised. . . I owe so much in taxes this year I'm gonna have to take out a payment plan ohmy.gif
J.B.
my old History teacher talked about this stuff. He talked about the Rothschilds or some family like that that owned the strongest bank in the world. I don't know about that, but I'm sure there are many economists smart enough to figure out things like this. None of this surprises me, and I've been reading these articles from the start. Keep up the good work Phil. I don't know how much of this is true, but it's at least a good story if it's false, and food for thought if it's true.
Oen Anderson
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Feb 21 2008, 03:28 AM) *
Income Tax is used exclusively to pay of interest on the national debt ?

SURELY that's not correct ? This guy sounds a bit nutty.

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My research shows the cost of Government is the largest sector of the U.S. gross domestic product, (GDP) with 43% of the economy. Of the money in the general fund, (paid by income tax) only 20% or half a trillion, (500,000,000,000) goes to pay the interest on the debt. The debt itself is over 9 trillion. What kind of interest rate are we paying if half a trillion only covers the interest for one year? Maybe its time to refinance the country!
REBEL
and the problem (debt) will & can NEVER be fixed. National Debt Clock no.gif
REBEL
But something has got to give sooner or later tho.

Note the dates...
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Oen Anderson
QUOTE (Oen Anderson @ Feb 22 2008, 07:51 PM) *
My research shows the cost of Government is the largest sector of the U.S. gross domestic product, (GDP) with 43% of the economy. Of the money in the general fund, (paid by income tax) only 20% or half a trillion, (500,000,000,000) goes to pay the interest on the debt. The debt itself is over 9 trillion. What kind of interest rate are we paying if half a trillion only covers the interest for one year? Maybe its time to refinance the country!

I guess I have to eat crow on this one. Further research shows that gas taxes pay for our roads, property taxes pay for our schools, sales taxes pay for Government, unemployment tax pays for unemployment, Social Security tax pays for Social Security, Medicare tax pays for Medicare, and as unbelievable as it sounds the income tax ia split between the military and interest on the national debt. Maybe we should do away with the income tax, I'm in!
Mbyte
Well the USA get tax for black orperations some wear. The amount dished out by the US for military is stupid. They've dished out millions and billions on concepts alone that were never designed. If you were to add up all this money I'd say you could end world hunger and every other problem while your at it.

The best thing about money is that you can see are doing with it. It's like a representation of our daily doings. At the moment all I see is a lot of killing. We spent a lot of money on killing people. Money doesn't evene exist anyway. So all we are doing is killing people. The money system is caving in on itself becasue people want money and lots of it. The only reason people do things for money is becasue they think money is valueable. In fact people do things for nothing we just don't realise it.

Phil do you live off the land or something?
Moon Demon
What does this continous blogging concerning money and taxes have to do with the theme of this website?
REBEL
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ Feb 28 2008, 02:57 AM) *
What does this continous blogging concerning money and taxes have to do with the theme of this website?


It's simple, Tax is one of the greatest 'Unexplained Mysteries' known to mankind...

You also ever tried filling & filing your own Tax Return?
Oen Anderson
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ Feb 27 2008, 09:27 AM) *
What does this continous blogging concerning money and taxes have to do with the theme of this website?

Maybe it doesn't concern you that you are a slave to a system that pervades every aspect of our lives. You can't give an example where money and taxes arn't involved! Not to mention that the money matrix is probably the conspiracy that links many of the other conspiracys togather. Also did you know that blog spelled backward is "Golb" which is very similar to "Gold" except is has fewer calories and is less filling.
SoCrazes
QUOTE (Mbyte @ Feb 24 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Well the USA get tax for black orperations some wear. The amount dished out by the US for military is stupid. They've dished out millions and billions on concepts alone that were never designed. If you were to add up all this money I'd say you could end world hunger and every other problem while your at it.

The best thing about money is that you can see are doing with it. It's like a representation of our daily doings. At the moment all I see is a lot of killing. We spent a lot of money on killing people. Money doesn't evene exist anyway. So all we are doing is killing people. The money system is caving in on itself becasue people want money and lots of it. The only reason people do things for money is becasue they think money is valueable. In fact people do things for nothing we just don't realise it.

Phil do you live off the land or something?

Many see money or currency as stored units of work. The more you have the less work you have to do to maintain the same standard of living...providing inflation doesn't consume your "stored units of work" - the perception of the value of that currency/money is maintained. Another way people may look at money/currency is that the more you have, the higher standard of living you can ascribe to. Money/currency in itself is useless; however, if one perceives value in trading work/assets/etc. for that money or currency, then that currency/money has value.

Oil, Greed, and the New Global Economy are the top three reasons we've experienced an increase in taxes and a decrease in the value of the US$. We (U.S.) need the oil to fuel our military might (world cops) and we pay private companies (cronys of the top brass) top dollar to do a lot of our "dirty" work which cannot be accounted for (it is impossible to tell if they completed their deals as specified in the contract because of the "top secret" nature of their work). Is Congress asleep at the helm? Print more money to pay for this which leads to inflation...we can all blame it on the cost of oil going through the roof. Wait a minute, aren't we in a war to get more oil? Didn't we manage to get more oil? Doesn't more supply means prices go down? Oh, yea, I forgot China is demanding more oil to fuel their new economy which is being fueled by demand of cheap goods from the people of the West. These cheap goods were once produced with more quality in the West for the West.

The New Global Economy will benefit MultiNational Corporations. On paper these MNCs are the most efficient way of handling the earth's limited resources; however, the standard of living must fall for people in the more advanced countries while the standard of living for people in the lesser-developed countries will rise until an equilibrium is reached.

Sorry for the rant.
SoCrazes
QUOTE (Oen Anderson @ Feb 28 2008, 02:28 AM) *
Maybe it doesn't concern you that you are a slave to a system that pervades every aspect of our lives. You can't give an example where money and taxes arn't involved! Not to mention that the money matrix is probably the conspiracy that links many of the other conspiracys togather. Also did you know that blog spelled backward is "Golb" which is very similar to "Gold" except is has fewer calories and is less filling.

Econ 101 - The three factors of production are land, labor (human work), and capital (things you use in the production of goods and services-money). All three factors of production are needed for any business in any economic system. Is it possible to control all, or any, of these factors in a global fashion? If so, how would you go about garnering control?
Oen Anderson
QUOTE (SoCrazes @ Mar 23 2008, 05:19 PM) *
Econ 101 - The three factors of production are land, labor (human work), and capital (things you use in the production of goods and services-money). All three factors of production are needed for any business in any economic system. Is it possible to control all, or any, of these factors in a global fashion? If so, how would you go about garnering control?

"Money Matrix of the New World Order" pg 155. "(Frederick Soddy believed that wealth is a physical phenomenon, and debt is a mathematical phenomenon. From his scientific view of the production process, Soddy replaced Adam Smith's traditional factors of production, 'Land, Labor, and Capitol,' with 'Discovery, Natural Energy, and Human Diligence.' He believed that before you could create wealth, you have to first discover the means to make your efforts valuable.)"
Since our capital is actually debt currency, a negative thing, we do not have the third item necessary in the three factors of traditional production.
"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."--James A. Garfield, President.
"To be controlled in our economic pursuits means to be controlled in everything."--Fredrich August von Hayek.
You would go about garnering control by taking control of the finances, which the privately run Federal Reserve has already done.
Oen Anderson
QUOTE (SoCrazes @ Mar 23 2008, 03:55 PM) *
Many see money or currency as stored units of work. The more you have the less work you have to do to maintain the same standard of living...providing inflation doesn't consume your "stored units of work" - the perception of the value of that currency/money is maintained. Another way people may look at money/currency is that the more you have, the higher standard of living you can ascribe to. Money/currency in itself is useless; however, if one perceives value in trading work/assets/etc. for that money or currency, then that currency/money has value.

Oil, Greed, and the New Global Economy are the top three reasons we've experienced an increase in taxes and a decrease in the value of the US$. We (U.S.) need the oil to fuel our military might (world cops) and we pay private companies (cronys of the top brass) top dollar to do a lot of our "dirty" work which cannot be accounted for (it is impossible to tell if they completed their deals as specified in the contract because of the "top secret" nature of their work). Is Congress asleep at the helm? Print more money to pay for this which leads to inflation...we can all blame it on the cost of oil going through the roof. Wait a minute, aren't we in a war to get more oil? Didn't we manage to get more oil? Doesn't more supply means prices go down? Oh, yea, I forgot China is demanding more oil to fuel their new economy which is being fueled by demand of cheap goods from the people of the West. These cheap goods were once produced with more quality in the West for the West.

The New Global Economy will benefit MultiNational Corporations. On paper these MNCs are the most efficient way of handling the earth's limited resources; however, the standard of living must fall for people in the more advanced countries while the standard of living for people in the lesser-developed countries will rise until an equilibrium is reached.

Sorry for the rant.

Very good observation.
Startraveler
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Although an income tax is unconstitutional, Article 1, sub section 2, clause 3 of the Constitution, the government said the 16th Amendment made it legal. So, is it legal? . . . As to the question of whether the income tax is legal or not, I would say not if we had real money. . .


I feel this author is somewhat confused as to what a constitutional amendment is. And I suppose other things as well.
REBEL
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SoCrazes
QUOTE (Startraveler @ Mar 24 2008, 08:53 AM) *
I feel this author is somewhat confused as to what a constitutional amendment is. And I suppose other things as well.

Any additions or changes to the U.S. Constitution must be done through amendments (there are currently 27 amendments). Amendments are very difficult to pass. The following was cut and pasted from Wikpedia on the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

The Sixteenth Amendment (Amendment XVI) of the United States Constitution was ratified on February 3, 1913. This Amendment overruled Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co. (1895), which greatly limited the Congress's authority to levy an income tax. This Amendment allows the Congress to levy an income tax without regard to the States or the Census.

Hope this helps.
SoCrazes
QUOTE (Oen Anderson @ Mar 24 2008, 07:13 AM) *
"Money Matrix of the New World Order" pg 155. "(Frederick Soddy believed that wealth is a physical phenomenon, and debt is a mathematical phenomenon. From his scientific view of the production process, Soddy replaced Adam Smith's traditional factors of production, 'Land, Labor, and Capitol,' with 'Discovery, Natural Energy, and Human Diligence.' He believed that before you could create wealth, you have to first discover the means to make your efforts valuable.)"
Since our capital is actually debt currency, a negative thing, we do not have the third item necessary in the three factors of traditional production.
"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."--James A. Garfield, President.
"To be controlled in our economic pursuits means to be controlled in everything."--Fredrich August von Hayek.
You would go about garnering control by taking control of the finances, which the privately run Federal Reserve has already done.

I'll have to get the Soddy book...sounds interesting.

Negative or positive, capital is still a component. If I opened a pizza joint and borrowed an oven from you (negative), it is still capital.

By the way, good quote from Garfield!
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