Hey everyone! I just found this forum and it's really awesome. K... I started trying to make psiballs like a year ago, but after a week and no results, I gave up. After finding this forum, my faith is restored and I want to try again. Anyone know good mental workouts and exercises to help with TK? Help would be appreciated. Thank you.

I made a psiball my first time ever trying.

You just have to really believe that you are making a psiball. You might just convince yourself that you did make one.



I assume we are supposed to just take your word for it. Because, you have no way of proving whether you can
make one or not.

Your wasting your time. Do something better with your life, like learn a few card or coin tricks. Your time can be used in more constructive pursuits.

Anyone gets their knickers in a twist with what I've said; James Randi, go prove me wrong.

Welcome to UM!

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Well I've made a psiball before, but I am never sure if it is my imagination or if it is real. I kinda need a way to know for sure, because I am sad to say I'm slightly skeptical. If only I had started at a young age, when I would have believed anything. Anyways, what are other things I can do? I will still train, but I am not sure if my slight skepticism will hinder my progress.

Ok...whats a psiball?

Absolutey nothing.

I dont know how to prove it unless your next to me. When I make em inbetween my hands has a cool breeze my friends said

psiballs are a concentration of psi. It might be imagination but I like it pretty cool.

I don't think belief is actually necessary. I didn't believe it the first time I tried. I think visualization is key. The stronger you can visualize the energy flowing through your arms and into your hands, the better results you will get. And it helps to not just see it, but to hear it, feel it, etc. That's how it worked for me, at least. After a while you'll barely have to think about it.

Okay, once I get past the stage where I can make a psiball, what's next?

http://www.psipog.net/home.html

this sight has all u need to know on making psi/chi balls, and advanced things you can do with them. Iv tried a couple times to make them with slight successe. Dont know if its my imagination or if there real. Sure feels real anyways. good luck

A way to test psi balls, is try sticking your hand in your freezer, or over soemthing hot, remember what that feels like, make a psi ball, and try to replicate that feeling, once you feel it in bewteen your hands, ask someone else to feel in between your hands, and ask what they feel...I've made a visible one before, I was making a psi ball opened my eyes, and saw an electric blue lining of a ball in my hands...It scared the crap outta me...

That's awesome! I want to make cold psiballs, I don't see a use for hot ones, considering they can't get really hot, but cold ones would have good shock effect. I will try. Dude keep me posted on what you do, this is interesting.

Yea, I myself feel them cold natrually..I can make a weak one in like 2 seconds now...As soon as I cuff my hands now psi goes into my hands, and I feel like the breeze feeling..I don't even have to visulize it anymore, the psi just comes as soon as I put my hands that way...

I will have to say that you are exaggerating.

Well thats your opinion...Do I have to prove myself real to the skeptics...Nope. It's actually kind of annoying when I try to help someone who wants to learn this stuff, that I getattacked by skeptics...Stay outta the places you aren't wnated

You like what I have to say about as much as I like what you have to say. I concider that an even trade.

This is a forum with people who have varying opinions, especially on controversial subjects such as these.


Regards,
Tom

Yes, I know, but when someone is trying to offer advice, to another person who is genuinely intrested...That is not the best time to come and say something isn't real....Because then the whole thread gets turned into a battle between skeptics and believers...As soon as Eric sees this post, all it's chances of being a helpful thread go down the drain...

There is no time better then the present...

In my opinion I think psi-balls do not exist, when people say I made one I think they are inducing self delusion because they believe in it so badly.

I've made visible ones too, so It's not self-induced...And when you make one it's just so obvious...You "feel" the ball in your hands, you feel tempreture change...Your hands feel like you have opposite ends of a magnet between them if you try to close them...It's just obvious when you experience it..

I can make it feel like I pull an invisible thread through the palm of my hand...

If you can make one you can see why not make a video? Insert another lame excuse here >_____

I truely think you should think about the quote in your signature, it applies to everyone.


Regards,
Tom

The mind is also a powerful tool! It can convince you that these things are actually happening.

I was just saying maybe you should let the believers help people out, instead of shooting us down, and furhter crushing the beliefs of the hopefuls who wnat to try...

And, I've only made one visible one..At night, I was sitting in bed, and tried to make it visible, and I opened my eyes and saw an electric blue light in the shape of a ball...Haven't made one since...If I can lern to do it on cue then I'll make a vid...

And don't say I'm just making excuses..Psi isn't like magic, we can't do it instantly every time...It's very hard...So don't think we're fakes if we want time to improve before we show solid video evidence...

Skeptics are not stopping anyone on here from believing in what they want. They do, (On the other hand!) try and put some logic into some of these claims, as most of them seem to be far beyond reality.

It is up to the believer to except what is real, and what is not real.


Regards,
Tom

Your making excuses whether you say so or not.

You have already now contradicted yourself in this thread... first you say you've made more then one now it's only one? gimme a break

I have made many psi-balls...Just one visible psi balls though...Psi balls aren't visible unless you program them to be..

Haaaaahaahaaha, OOPS sorry.

No need to be sarcastic now...

No need to say you can do something you can't... We don't all get what we want here it's an even trade.

Also, for me, I don't care if it's my mind convincing me, I just want to make one for the cool effect. Unless I'm trying to prove it scientifically, what do I care if it's only in my mind, that's good enough for me.

Psiballs are just biofeedback.

This is not a believer forum. It is an unexplained mystery forum. Psi-balls are not an unexplained mystery, they are a creation of cartoonists. Unless you can show the world that there is a mystery here, expect to be shot down.

Something unexplained would perhaps be the flicker of light. But no seems to be able to catch it on camera... HMh HMH

Then with all respect, maybe you are posting in the wrong place. Hallucinations are easily had by a variety of means, and are no mystery at all.

If all you want is a visible psiball hallucination, then some variant on this recipe should work. Sit in the dark for about 10-15 minutes. Close your eyes. Squeeze your eyelids together. Maybe tap gently on your eyelids. Position your hands. Open your eyes and look at your hands.

Next.

Man, you are so cool.

No that's not really what I meant. I meant, if my brain convinces me it's there, who's to tell me it's not?

Anyone can tell you it's not there! But, if you're mind has convinced you otherwise, then I suppose there is
no changing your opinion on said belief.

EDIT: Is there no way to delete a post?

Exactly. What I want to know is how to enhance these effects, proving them is just a bonus.

Keep in mind, this is also often the mantra of the mentally ill. I had an Aunt that hallucinated while suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, and she insisted her hallucinations were real, and no one could tell her they were not. After all, who are we to tell her that what her brain told her was real was not?

You will find hard-core debunkers here, but you will also find people here who want proof of these kind of phenomena because they WANT it to be real. So this is a place to explore the reality of things, to prove and disprove, even discuss possibilities. It is NOT a place where you'll have much luck learning to do things that are not provable. Does that make sense?

Sorry, it did sound that way, and it made some sense. The recipe was sincere.


Anybody whose brain knows how hallucinations work.

And, at least with the better quality hallucinations, there's some interest in where the hallucination is coming from, and what it means. In the case of psi-balls, the source is comic books, and the meaning is that there are people so alienated from their own bodies that they don't recognize what fatigue feels like in their forearms and hands.

Could not have said that any better myself.

Except I believe psi balls came more or less from the cartoon DBZ which was huge in the early to late 90's. It was at this time I noticed people claiming to make balls of energy similar to that in the show online and it's been like this ever since.

Psi-balls are a lot like chi-balls in Tai Chi. I don't know if that's where it came from, an ancient eastern form of moving meditation and exercise, but it's possible.

We've had people on UM who were into various Eastern practices surrounding the movement of chi, whether for therapy, meditation, exercise, or martial arts.

I am not saying that they were better treated by the k-team, but there was at least something to discuss, including the authentic role that visualizations as such might play in therapy or athletic performance.

That's not what the issue is in psionics. The psi debate turns on whether there is anything between the psi-meister's hands besides air, yes or no.

I say maybe.

Yea, but psi came from scientist...It's scientist that started psi..They named it, they were the ones that noticed that during PK experiments, there was this unknown energy..They called it psi, and it caught on....So really the leaders of the skeptics, started the psions....

Fair enough.


"Scientists" doing PK experiments who discover "this unknown energy" somehow don't ring true as "leaders of the skeptics."

But hey, prove me wrong. What scientist(s) started psi? Which skeptics did he, she, or they lead?