knowledge..w/o..power
Feb 25 2008, 09:44 AM
OMAHA, Neb. -- Police arrested 25-year-old Lisa Schuchard two weeks ago. She was charged with felony child abuse.
Police said they originally went to the home near 34th and Hamilton to check on the well being of two children in the home, ages 4 and 2.
Police reports indicate investigators discovered drugs, and even a shotgun within reach of the children.
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Police said after investigators removed the children from the home, the 4-year-old demostrated to officers how to smoke marijuana.
Police reports show officers found a shotgun by the couch that the children were sitting on. Officers said they also found baggies, marijuana residue and a marijuana pipe on the coffee table.
The report said Schuchard and her live-in boyfriend, Christopher Gladden, both admitted to police they smoked marijuana on a daily basis.
Police said Schuchard will now face a hearing on her parental rights
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mr.manson223
Feb 29 2008, 05:54 PM
WOW...HOLY CRAP!!!
who would do the to there child?!?!?!?!?!
MoonPrincess
Feb 29 2008, 06:15 PM
Geez. What a stupid mother.
I hope the kids will be alright now that they're out of that invoment.
(I know I spelt that wrong.)
WraithGod
Feb 29 2008, 07:36 PM
Uhm, holy sh**.
goalienan
Feb 29 2008, 08:58 PM
She should have all her rights as a parent removed....Leaving a shotgun on the couch, teaching the kid to smoke, gee what does that tell you....Other than the fact that she's a dumb sh*t.........
BiffSplitkins
Feb 29 2008, 09:04 PM
QUOTE (knowledge..w/o..power @ Feb 25 2008, 04:44 AM)

OMAHA, Neb. -- Police arrested 25-year-old Lisa Schuchard two weeks ago. She was charged with felony child abuse.
Police said after investigators removed the children from the home, the 4-year-old demostrated to officers how to smoke marijuana.
LinkSad thing is there are people out there that think that this is cute or funny
Lilly
Feb 29 2008, 09:25 PM
Not that I approve of this stuff (I don't), but just because the 4 year old knows 'how' to smoke weed doesn't mean he/she was doing it as well (young children will carefully watch everything their parent does). The child needs to be tested to see if there is any of the drug present in his/her system. Frankly, the presence of the gun worries me much more.
REBEL
Feb 29 2008, 10:21 PM
If they throw her in the slammer, lets hope her (Schuchard's) prison inmates teach her the right way to treat & look after children at one of their 'group sessions', I hear they get good results.
raoulduke666
Feb 29 2008, 10:29 PM
Yea I say take the kids away from the parents. If the kids want to smoke, let them figure that out on their own, rofl
REBEL
Feb 29 2008, 10:30 PM
QUOTE (Lilly @ Mar 1 2008, 07:55 AM)

Not that I approve of this stuff (I don't), but just because the 4 year old knows 'how' to smoke weed doesn't mean he/she was doing it as well (young children will carefully watch everything their parent does). The child needs to be tested to see if there is any of the drug present in his/her system. Frankly, the presence of the gun worries me much more.
Got nothing against smokers (to each their own) but even if the child didn't inhale Lilly, smoking weed while children are present as you say is bad enough...What about second-hand smoke, the little fella wouldn't need to be in the room long to get high...
She-ra
Feb 29 2008, 10:48 PM
QUOTE (knowledge..w/o..power @ Feb 25 2008, 04:44 AM)

OMAHA, Neb. -- Police arrested 25-year-old Lisa Schuchard two weeks ago. She was charged with felony child abuse.
Police said they originally went to the home near 34th and Hamilton to check on the well being of two children in the home, ages 4 and 2.
Police reports indicate investigators
discovered drugs, and even a shotgun within reach of the children.
sponsor
Police said after investigators removed the children from the home,
the 4-year-old demostrated to officers how to smoke marijuana.
Police reports show officers
found a shotgun by the couch that the children were sitting on. Officers said they also found baggies, marijuana residue and a marijuana pipe on the coffee table.
The report said Schuchard and her live-in boyfriend, Christopher Gladden, both admitted to police they smoked marijuana on a daily basis.
Police said Schuchard will now face a hearing on her parental rights
LinkTHAT IS WRONG ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT. Stupid, stupid people.

PS: Let us NOT FORGET WEED IS ILLEGAL. Period, end of story
STUPID!!
REBEL
Feb 29 2008, 10:55 PM
Da weed's a natural herb, Jode, it ain't the use it's the 'abuse' that screws up it's reputation imo.
She-ra
Feb 29 2008, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (REBEL @ Feb 29 2008, 05:55 PM)

Da weed's a natural herb, Jode, it ain't the use it's the 'abuse' that screws up it's reputation imo.
I understand but this natural herb influences one mental processes; tossing "good judgement" out the window. In front of a 2 and a 4 year old?? Come on...THAT'S pretty stupid to me.
Oh yea, and let's not forget they were SITTING on a rifle!!!
Edit: speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling
REBEL
Feb 29 2008, 11:18 PM
QUOTE (She-ra @ Mar 1 2008, 09:40 AM)

I understand but this natural herb influences one mental processes; tossing "good judgement" out the window. In front of a 2 and a 4 year old?? Come on...THAT'S pretty stupid to me.
Edit: speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling
Agreed, hence my earlier posts.
The original story is short & not too detailed my guess is the bi*ch in the care of them kids 'may have been on something else also'
(?)
She-ra
Feb 29 2008, 11:25 PM
QUOTE (REBEL @ Feb 29 2008, 06:18 PM)

Agreed, hence my earlier posts.
The original story is short & not too detailed my guess is the bi*ch in the care of them kids 'may have been on something else also'(?)
Who knows. This kind of parental negligence really pee's me off... can u tell? LMAO! I can't stand these kind of things

Poor kids...
the rebirth
Feb 29 2008, 11:41 PM
QUOTE
I understand but this natural herb influences one mental processes; tossing "good judgement" out the window. In front of a 2 and a 4 year old?? Come on...THAT'S pretty stupid to me.
i know plenty people who smoke weed who have great judgement. youve made an assumption that marijuana impedes good judgement, but based on my own experiences i would say this is not neccessarily so. you were quick to notice a correlation between smoking herb and having terrible judgement in the article, however, to say that one factor in a correlation causes another is impossible without experimental evidence. it is an all too common mistake. i would say that these parents had terrible judgement to begin with, hence explaining why they would choose to both leave a deadly weapon in the vicinity of small children and do drugs in the presence of their kids. lets hope they can learn from their mistakes.
Lilly
Mar 1 2008, 03:08 AM
QUOTE (REBEL @ Feb 29 2008, 10:30 PM)

Got nothing against smokers (to each their own) but even if the child didn't inhale Lilly, smoking weed while children are present as you say is bad enough...What about second-hand smoke, the little fella wouldn't need to be in the room long to get high...
The issue I was addressing was the thread title "4 year old weed smoker". I, too, think it more likely that the child was exposed to second hand smoke verses smoking it himself. Naturally, this is still a form of child abuse.
Also, generally speaking it's poor judgement to involve children in illegal activities of any kind, especially anything involving drugs and guns.
Atheist God
Mar 1 2008, 03:18 AM
QUOTE (She-ra @ Feb 29 2008, 05:10 PM)

I understand but this natural herb influences one mental processes; tossing "good judgement" out the window. In front of a 2 and a 4 year old?? Come on...THAT'S pretty stupid to me.
Oh yea, and let's not forget they were SITTING on a rifle!!!
Edit: speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling
I won't discuss my drug use here... But yeah my name didn't used to be GanjaGuru here for no reason (changed at Saruman's request)
Pot does not effect your judgement or at least not in this way.
It is pretty obvious to me that this woman has psychological problems either cause by a real harmful substance or she was just born batshiat.
I fight for the legalization and regulation of marijuana and people like this woman make the rest of us look bad. So please do not blame the benign plant which has never killed anyone.
For those here who have kids and smoke pot please keep it hidden and out of reach and for gun owners keep them unloaded and locked up in a safe place. Kids should have no part of either.
She-Ra if you would like to know more about the Cannabis plant I am an expert and will gladly answer any questions you have regarding it's effects and properties via PM... No I am not promoting use here mods just offering knowledge.
She-ra
Mar 1 2008, 07:18 AM
AG-
I have no issues what consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their own homes or whatever. I couldn't care less. Hell, I believe is should be medically legal at least! Ok, I'm stopping that topic now.
I do think this article regarding a 2 and 4 year old very familiar with and around a "drug" and a "rifle" quite disturbing.
My posts were not meant to be taken as a blanketed statement towards people who partake; only specific to this article.
My opinion is that the parent is STUPID and stuff concerning innocent children (babies almost -- 2 and 4 year olds!!) really bothers me. The woman is not a fit mother. Her reasoning must have flown out the window to let these children SIT on a rifle!! WTH was she thinking; or even the boyfriend? Sorry, just my opinion.
Kazahel
Mar 1 2008, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Mar 1 2008, 12:18 PM)

For those here who have kids and smoke pot please keep it hidden and out of reach and for gun owners keep them unloaded and locked up in a safe place. Kids should have no part of either.
I agree with this very much. Like I have smoked for many years(self medicated kinda) and my son for example has never even seen me with a lighter.. So he hasnt even seen a lighter.. let alone anything else. I would duck outside to smoke sometimes(if I could) and then I would quickly change all of my clothes and have a quick shower to try to get the smell off(I did this everytime). So I didnt even want him to smell it. And I always did this... because I never wanted him to think his dad was a smoker of anything( I dont smoke cigys). Now my son is getting older(he's year 1 at school).. I understand I cant run around trying to hide it anymore. So I'm quitting. I've now gone over a week without.. which doesnt sound much but it is for me. And I feel pretty good.

So basically it comes down to the parents and how they treat these substances. I'm more shocked though they would keep a gun so close.. I cant imagine why anyone would do that around little kids who might like to play cowboys or whatever. I can understand some smokers not being able to go outside the backyard to smoke because they might live in a unit.. but you'd hope they would wait until the child couldnt see them at least(once their in bed or whatever).
So some people use.. carefully and some dont.
They give pot and/or gun ownership a bad rep.
savvygirl
Mar 3 2008, 12:37 AM

I don't believe parental rights come into the equation any longer.She gave up that right long ago.
Rockerchick2008
Mar 3 2008, 02:38 AM
See its cases like this that makes it hard for us to make the substance legal, honestly I hope I live long enough to see this happen, as I believe in legalization, as for guns, both my parents own them, they keep them secured in a locked cabinet, with they keys on their keys so no one can really get to them, it comes down to being a responsible parent, what happened to those days? If you cant be responsible don't breed...bottom line...personally I hope she loses her kids, mabey it will give her a good dose of reality...
Porthos1
Mar 3 2008, 05:12 AM
QUOTE (Lilly @ Feb 29 2008, 10:08 PM)

The issue I was addressing was the thread title "4 year old weed smoker". I, too, think it more likely that the child was exposed to second hand smoke verses smoking it himself. Naturally, this is still a form of child abuse.
Also, generally speaking it's poor judgement to involve children in illegal activities of any kind, especially anything involving drugs and guns.
That is sooooooooooo true! They love to tattle on a grown up. Lol.
Not to mention the fact that smoking weed is bad. Everyone knows you're supposed to cook with it.
The main issue for me is the gun. You should never ever leave firearms lying around kids. Even if they they are unloaded. If the kid plays with it and it isn't loaded, one day it might be and they think it's harmless. Bad news. I had an uncle killed this way. Education at the proper age level is the key. The parents here are shotty parents. No question. Parents like these make me worried.
RileySmiley
Mar 3 2008, 05:53 PM
Lol wow funny story, it's surprising that a mother would show her kids how to smoke bud at that age. I didn't start until I was 12.. weed honestly shouldn't even be illegal. The kids are just fine, they were in no danger from the weed smoking going on, it's just the bad parenting. The only life-threatening thing going on in that house appears to be having a gun in reach of 4 year olds.
the rebirth
Mar 4 2008, 10:03 AM
^damn straight^
RileySmiley gets a gold star
MoonPrincess
Mar 4 2008, 08:38 PM
Weed should be
illegal! It's an
illegal drug!
I hoep the kid doesn't smoke drugs when he gets older.
the rebirth
Mar 5 2008, 09:38 AM
QUOTE (MoonPrincess @ Mar 4 2008, 03:38 PM)

Weed should be illegal! It's an illegal drug!
I hoep the kid doesn't smoke drugs when he gets older.
how do you justify a drugs illegality? what if it was decided that asprin should be illegalized due to some newly discovered side effect? i would imagine that many people would probably still use it due to its positive properties. these people who continued its use would probably be sent to jail for using an "illegal" drug. whats so wrong with marijuana in the first place?
Edit:
what if the kid goes on to drink his drugs instead?
Denzanrom
Mar 5 2008, 11:42 PM
QUOTE
I didn't start until I was 12.. weed honestly shouldn't even be illegal. The kids are just fine, they were in no danger from the weed smoking going on, it's just the bad parenting.
Given how sensitive most kids his age are, I'd say they'd be in danger of overdosing. Its not like they need it the way older people do.
As for legalizing marijuana, it deserves to have better rep after being legalized rather than lumping it with cigars or booze.
churchanddestroy
Mar 6 2008, 07:00 PM
QUOTE (MoonPrincess @ Mar 4 2008, 02:38 PM)

Weed should be
illegal! It's an
illegal drug!
I hoep the kid doesn't smoke drugs when he gets older.

The legality of something doesn't tell us about its morality. The government should have no right in deciding what you can or can not put in your body. However, I strongly disagree with young people smoking pot. You should definitely wait until you're older because excessive rocking of the ganj when youre young can impair your mental facilities. Once you're past 16 or so it generally doesn't seem to have an adverse effect on your mental development, unless of course you're a total burn out. Its about being smart and moderation.
JJsDietFitness
Mar 6 2008, 07:12 PM
Man, that is terrible! Looks like the county she lives in will probable take her kids...but I've seen worse than that when the parents get a 2nd chance to get their lives in order, while the children are held in temp foster homes. The offenders are put on probation where they have to have weekly urine tests for pot...they stay clean, they get to be parents at least part of the time. Kids in situations like that usually end up with the grandparents or siblings with the child's parent(s) having visiting rights...
What a mess.....
JJ
crtbud
Mar 6 2008, 07:25 PM
QUOTE (Denzanrom @ Mar 5 2008, 06:42 PM)

Given how sensitive most kids his age are, I'd say they'd be in danger of overdosing. Its not like they need it the way older people do.
As far as being in danger of overdosing, you can't overdose on marijuana. You reach a certain point where smoking more has no effect.
However, children this young should be nowhere near weed smoking. I would imagine the lungs of children that age would be extra sensitive to the smoke. However, I'm not a doctor and I don't know if this would have any long lasting effects, but it's a legitimate factor to consider.
I agree with the majority of posters on this one in saying that the gun was much more of a thing to worry about.
BiffSplitkins
Mar 6 2008, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (crtbud @ Mar 6 2008, 02:25 PM)

As far as being in danger of overdosing, you can't overdose on marijuana. You reach a certain point where smoking more has no effect.
However, children this young should be nowhere near weed smoking. I would imagine the lungs of children that age would be extra sensitive to the smoke. However, I'm not a doctor and I don't know if this would have any long lasting effects, but it's a legitimate factor to consider.
I agree with the majority of posters on this one in saying that the gun was much more of a thing to worry about.
Pot smoke is worse for you than cigarette smoke... I remember reading somewhere that just a single joint equals the tar content of an entire pack of cigarettes.
By the way CRT I thought of you yesterday... I watched a movie called Smiley Face. If you haven't seen it go rent it. It's funny on a pothead kinda level.
crtbud
Mar 6 2008, 08:26 PM
QUOTE (BiffSplitkins @ Mar 6 2008, 02:44 PM)

Pot smoke is worse for you than cigarette smoke... I remember reading somewhere that just a single joint equals the tar content of an entire pack of cigarettes.
By the way CRT I thought of you yesterday... I watched a movie called Smiley Face. If you haven't seen it go rent it. It's funny on a pothead kinda level.

Hehe, is it an old release? I'll snag it from Blockbuster with my free March rental.

Also, you are correct in your first statement, but your figures are off. Pot smoke produces more tar than cigarette smoke does, but smoking one joint is the equivalent to(speaking in terms of tar in the lungs) four cigarettes. Not nearly a whole pack, but still more than a cigarette. However, there are other factors to consider in order to accurately compare the two. I don't want to go off topic so I'll leave it there, but pm me if you want more details on that.
And thanks for the movie recommendation
Wolfox
Mar 15 2008, 07:07 PM
Oh my god.

This isn't right.
Atheist God
Mar 18 2008, 12:13 AM
QUOTE
Given how sensitive most kids his age are, I'd say they'd be in danger of overdosing. Its not like they need it the way older people do.
As for legalizing marijuana, it deserves to have better rep after being legalized rather than lumping it with cigars or booze.
Cannabis is not toxic enough to over dose on. It is physically impossible to over dose by smoking pot.
QUOTE
Pot smoke is worse for you than cigarette smoke... I remember reading somewhere that just a single joint equals the tar content of an entire pack of cigarettes.
Pot smoke is not worse then cigarette smoke... Cannabis cannot even be compared to Tobacco in regards to toxicity.
While Cannabis may contain slightly higher tar numbers the tar contains different and in many cases beneficial properties that make it non lethal.
The only negative physical side effect is that older cannabis users may get bronchitis at some point.
She-ra
Mar 18 2008, 01:10 AM
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Mar 17 2008, 08:13 PM)

Cannabis is not toxic enough to over dose on. It is physically impossible to over dose by smoking pot.
Pot smoke is not worse then cigarette smoke... Cannabis cannot even be compared to Tobacco in regards to toxicity.
While Cannabis may contain slightly higher tar numbers the tar contains different and in many cases beneficial properties that make it non lethal.
The only negative physical side effect is that older cannabis users may get bronchitis at some point.
OMG no one cares about adult choices with regards to pot. You can hang upside down like a monkey in a tree and smoke it all day long for all I care. That's not what this article is about. You are speaking for yourself now and it's so like whatever, who cares.
TWO and FOUR year old children DO NOT need to be in a room/house were the parent is smoking pot and also SITTING on a rifle. I think that's pretty clear.
Now go smoke your doobie and chill dude.
BicMeUp
Mar 18 2008, 09:08 PM
we live in a f***d up society let me tell you!
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