This is really really really weird…

My wife and I are convinced that “something” is screwing with us, maybe not a ghost (still sceptic) but definitely “something”.

Lets go back about 2 years ago… we just moved into our condo (about 20 year old building) and everything was fine. Until one night, we were about to go to bed after turning our sons nightlight out, and what did we find? A strange wet spot on our bed, didn’t have any strong odor or any coloring to it, I would even say water… we don’t have cats or dogs. I asked my wife if she spilled something, and she told me that she hadn’t been in the room all night, I also asked my sister in law that lived with us at the time, and she hadn’t been in the room neither.

About a week went by.

We were out buying groceries, 3 items in particular went missing… an eggplant, a plastic bowl for our son, and toothpaste. I had placed these items in the shopping cart personally, and they had been placed on the conveyer belt at the cashier by me also. I also packed them in the bags, and they were not all in the same bag. When we got home, and unpacked everything, these items were missing… just missing, no trace of them anywhere. I know this isn’t anything crazy, but at the same time, I’m very thorough, and there’s no way these things should have gone missing…

A couple months went by.

Our room (my wife and I) was being painted, so we were sleeping on the pull-out couch in the living room to avoid the paint smell, again, something strange happened with a wet spot. This time UNDER the blankets on the mattress sheet, underneath the comforter. Just as I was getting into bed, I felt a wet spot at my feet. Same deal as before… odourless and colorless… and my wife did not spill anything, nor did our sister in law. Our son had been in bed for hours, and besides, the bed part wasn’t even pulled out before he went to bed. Strange… anyone know what ectoplasm smells like? Is it colorless and odourless?

Throughout the year.

Things happen, could be just coincidences, could be just the nature of things… the fridge door opens at night sometimes… but for about a year, no wet spots, no food going missing…

About 6 months ago.

Again, I did the groceries myself this time… I KNOW I had a few items that went missing, zincofax, tomatoes and BBQ sauce. These items had even been placed on the conveyer belt at the cashier by me, I recall because I wasn’t getting a full load of groceries. These items didn’t even make it to the receipt I got at the end of paying. I know they were there, and then there weren’t.

About 4 months ago.

This time, we went to bed, no wet spots, we in fact hadn’t had any wet spots for about a year. Then, I wake up at night… the bed is wet from my feet to my waste, only on my side. My boxers were dry (where they didn’t touch the wetness) and I did NOT urinate in bed, I’ve never been a bed wetter… in fact I got up and went straight to the bathroom to get changed and take a piss, and my pee was very yellow and potent (had asparagus for supper) so I knew it wasn’t the watery stuff in bed. I didn’t tell my wife until about a month ago, just because even though I knew it wasn’t me, I still felt somewhat embarrassed. Weird thing is, is again, the top sheets were NOT wet, only the bottom sheet.

Last night.

We were both on our computers, side-by-side desks… and out of nowhere, a package of candles comes tumbling down off the top of my wife’s desk… No one touched it, no one banged the desk to dislodge it, it just fell straight on her keyboard, from another flat surface. And it was a heavy box at that (about 40 small flat-style candles).



Does anyone think or maybe have any explanation for this weird stuff?

Does Ouija really work? Should I go get a board?


Thanks

I like the movie Dark Water. As usual, I think the original Japanese version is better that the remake, but they both have their creepy moments.

Just sayin'...

This time, we went to bed, no wet spots, we in fact hadn’t had any wet spots for about a year. Then, I wake up at night… the bed is wet from my feet to my waste, only on my side. My boxers were dry (where they didn’t touch the wetness) and I did NOT urinate in bed, I’ve never been a bed wetter… in fact I got up and went straight to the bathroom to get changed and take a piss, and my pee was very yellow and potent (had asparagus for supper) so I knew it wasn’t the watery stuff in bed. I didn’t tell my wife until about a month ago, just because even though I knew it wasn’t me, I still felt somewhat embarrassed. Weird thing is, is again, the top sheets were NOT wet, only the bottom sheet.

Who were you sleeping with if your wife didn't know. You would think if your bed was wet that they would notice. Anyways, don't call the ghostbusters just yet, and try not to drink too much water before going to bed.

Way to keep on topic.

Anyhoo, about the water spots, dunno, but it rings a bell with me. I'll see if I can find anything in my notes. The other stuff going missing, have you tried asking out loud for it back? I know of people who have tried this and it worked.

I would recommend:

DONT get an Ouija board. It won't tell you anything.

DONT hire a psychic. (Dont pay money for one)

Keep a diary of all events.

Where in Canada are you?

Ok, and I'm just sayin' please stay on topic.


No, the wet spot was on MY side of the (king size) bed. And yes I was with my wife, and she was sleeping.

When I came back to bed I purposely moved more into the middle so she wouldn't feel the wet spot, because as I had mentioned, I felt somewhat embarrassed about it at the time. But after a LOT of thinking (weeks), I concluded that it could not have (in fact, it was impossible to have) been me. It was NOT urine, it was water, the SAME stuff that we had found previous times. I haven't wet the bed since I was like 2 years old, so that 100% guarentees I did not wet it myself.


Across the river from Ottawa.

I heard a Ouija can contact ghosts and whatnot, if you get the real wooden kind. Are you saying that they don't work?

Why, thank you Hezzbelle. I do try.

My point is, there are many similarities between the OP and the movie I mentioned.

I am not inferring anything, just pointing that out.

Have a wonderful day.

Ok... sorry, I didn't know that's what you meant, I never saw that movie so I thought you were just adding a stupid random reply. I'm more of a Rambo type movie guy.

No prob. And though I like action movies as much as the next guy my favorites will always be horror.

FWIT, I've only had one experience in my life where someone could say it was related to the paranormal. I'm a sceptic regarding this subject, but I'll be damned if I can find a mundane explanation as to what I experienced. So, I kinda know how you feel.

I agree with you Hezzbelle.

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Mindpurge, you do seem to have some curious stuff happening.
I hope you can get this mystery solved soon.

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Again, I did the groceries myself this time… I KNOW I had a few items that went missing, zincofax, tomatoes and BBQ sauce. These items had even been placed on the conveyer belt at the cashier by me, I recall because I wasn’t getting a full load of groceries. These items didn’t even make it to the receipt I got at the end of paying. I know they were there, and then there weren’t.

I don't really understand what you are implying here. When you put the items on the belt did you see them float away? Or did the cashier mess with you? There were many times in my life that I could have sworn that I bought something and could not find it. Never once did I think it was because of ghosts. Did the ghost mess with your receipt as well?

First of all, learn how to quote.

Second of all, if you can read, then you will find the answer to your questions in the exact text you attempted to quote.

So you didn't see it float away! What about the receipt? Is it more likely that you were mistaken?

edit: Now where is my remote control? Ah, captain howdy give it back!

ouijees are a way of freeing dark spirits from the other side... DO NOT EVER EVER EVER us one!

It sounds like you have a playful spirit in the house. A child perhaps. The first thing I would look at is the history of the items you have brought into the house and if they are new, then the history of the condo. And the last thing I would do is compound the situation by using a Ouija Board. Look for items purchased around the time these events started.

Sweat maybe? Leak from the ceiling? Unrelated events?

The missing items are not ghost-story material. I know it makes you feel crazy when something you KNOW you had just disappears, but there are so many valid explanations for it. Maybe the items weren't priced right, and the cashier set them aside and forgot to check them. Maybe they got mixed in with the items the customer behind you bought. Maybe they tumbled out of the bag(s) and were left behind in the parking lot as you drove home.

The wet spots are not that crazy either. If you had seen wet spots and heard a demonic voice coming from nowhere that would be one thing. But the wet spots could have been (respectively) a leak in the ceiling after a heavy rain, sweat (especially the one where it was just you) or even (depending on the size of the wet spot) a nocturnal emission (wet dream). It could have been something as mundane as those, but for some reason you have jumped to the conclusion that it is something paranormal.

I never understand this...

I agree in not using the Ouija board unless you are very experience in dealing with entities.
If you choose to bring in a psychic, make sure you use two or three to see if their conclusions match.

If you choose to bring in a team of paranormal investigators, make sure they are not observers or storytellers, but in fact ones that will do a thorough scientific investigation to rule out probable causes. Keeping a log of events could give insight to a pattern, and other useful information for investigators to analyze.

If it were your bed, you wouldn't notice a leak in your celling ? The smell of urine on it ? And I have found them to be notorious thieves. Does this mean his place is haunted ? NO ! But he believes it is based on what he is experiencing . So all things being relevant, and his information being true and correct. Then an inference can be made. Based on the facts that we can neither prove or disprove his accounts, we can only offer suggestions, gather information and see where it leads us. Scientific proof is wonderful, if or when they ever get any. So until then there will be those that believe, and those that spend there time coming up with reasons for why they don't. The TAPS mentality is wonderful in moderation, but some times ya just have to take things on faith. Or not !

If I had been given enough evidence of a supernatural event, I would not have written it off so quickly. But there was nothing out of the ordinary in his story. He lost some groceries and mysterious wet spots appeared on his bed twice in a few years time. There is nothing bizarre about it. Just because it is UNEXPLAINED does not mean it is SUPERNATURAL.

I am not one of those skeptics that automatically disbelieves anyone's ideas. But this one does not have the makings of a mystery.

As I stated, this grocery stuff could have been unrelated... but still, nothing like this has ever happened to me before. I recall packing them in bags with other stuff, and I had the other stuff.


Not sweat, definitely not sweat. Like I said, it wasn't just damp, it was soaked. (the time when I was in bed when it happened)

And it's not a leak, I should have stated that I checked for that also. This is why it seemed so odd. And we have neighbors upstairs with a similar layout of condo, their room is where ours is so it's not a bathroom leak, besides, I searched for ALL kinds of leaks, I touched the walls, the ceiling, no discoloration, no wetness... nothing.

And there's no leak I've ever heard of that can penetrate through the comforter and go straight to the matress sheet without getting anything else wet.


And the package of candles... I just cannot explain that one.

But like Mikeinny said... it's almost as if we're being played with.

And I wouldn't have talked about this if I didn't think something was wierd. And I'm looking from all sides... but many things make me feel it's might be supernatural... now there could always be another explanation... but still... it feels wierd.

Perhaps not. But then again the story he related does fit into the category of poltergeist activity, and would compare fairly closely to hundreds of cases like it studied by the parapsychology Dept. at JFK University from the mid 50s to the mid 70s. This was actually one of the first thesis's I read back in the mid 70s. And I am pretty sure it can be cross referanced from then until now and we might find a few more like it ? But ya can't be to sure. LOL

Yeah, the candles is odd, but not unexplainable. But I always say, go with your intuition. If you feel there is something paranormal going on here, explore it. Next time a wet spot appears, try to collect some of the fluid. Squeeze the sheet out into a container, and maybe have it tested. Set up a recorder (audio or video) to record at night, or on a motion sensor setting. Get a dog or cat, they seem to be able to alert owners of strange presences. Bag your own groceries everytime, or use the self-cashier lines so you can see everything you are doing.

Don't get a ouija board. They never seem to do anything helpful, whether or not you believe in their power.




Do poltergeists follow people to the grocery store?

Now we are cooking with crisco !! Collect evidence when you can and have it examined. Now I missed it going to the store . But in fact there have been reported cases of the activity following individuals to others homes, as well as businesses. However in almost all cases it turned out to have human origin. It turned out to be a child {most common} Female {secound most common} and male {least common} Most cases were when a child was involved, but adults have been known to exhibit this activity especially when under stress.

There isn't really a whole lot we can tell you about your problem, as we cannot be there personally to examine the evidence. If this is a haunting it seems quite mild compared to many I have witnessed in the past. You really have nothing to worry about. Here are a couple things you can do if you are worried or just curious.

Check out the history of your home to find out if anyone has died there. Find out the history of the land your home is on as well. There may have been a battlefield where people died or any number of possibilities. Find out if your home is built on land that has a high amount of limestone or quartz. These can cause poltergeist activity.

There are also several tools you can use to check for EM fields and ions. These are indicative of a haunting and would allow you to track any movement that a spirit might make in your home. You can pick an EMF reader up at hardware store or order one online. Ectoplasm is somewhat viscous I believe. Another thing you can do if you are curious is take a sample of the liquid the next time you find it and have it tested to find out if it is just water. I am sure you can find someplace to have it tested in the phone book or on the web.


Items going missing is also consistent with poltergeist activity in case you didn't know. Once again, it sounds like you have nothing to worry about. Poltergeists can be MUCH worse than what you are experiencing. There is really no need to use a Quija. The easiest thing would be to just talk to it whenever you see something happen. If you see something fall off a shelf, ask it to stop in a nice way. Talking to a ghost and telling what bothers you about them can often help quiet them down (it can also backfire and make things worse so it's a gamble). I also assume that no one in your home is lying to you...hehe

Here is a bad one for comparison..poltergeist

I, personally wouldn't do the Ouija board.. or try to contact it.. that's just my opinion..
and that's if you do have anything there.
You could have a leak in your roof.. check that out.
the Grocery thing happens to all of us I think, it happens to me all the time.

Hey Mindpurge :-)

Your tale reminds me of a couple wet spots I dealt with, neither of which turned out to be paranormal. In one case, after a rarely ferocious blowing rainstorm, I went upstairs and had a pool of water on the landing from no visible source at all. No evident leak, no wet walls, ceiling, nothing. After checking everything out I could, it was discovered that somehow the rainwater had blown up on a beam and a leak elsewhere, trickled along it, and then dropped down and actually came through the light fixture and dripped through the day while I was at work, and finally dried enough I hadn't seen wet on the light some ten feet further above my head. I proved this when the light finally blew out and when I replaced it, I found water inside the freaking bulb itself.... how it lasted and didn't short out or electrocute me somehow that first night when I flipped the switch I have zero clue (or blown and scared me into leaving a few wet spots myself!).

In the other case, I also had a wet spot on the matrress but not on the upper covers it seemed. That was my old poodle having one of his first doggy alzheimer's moments which had dried partially before I found it that night.

Neither may be players for you, but the point being that keeping a log of events and checking things out as you can may result in some answers for you that are even odder than a ghostie explanation.

That your experiences have been spread out over a lot of time doesn't make me feel this is a matter for alarm (which you did not infer either). So, I'd keep good notes and start as you are doing now, gathering info and ideas and determining how to rule out what is not possibly paranormal and getting it down to what cannot be otherwise explained.

The suggestions about speaking aloud and asking for things back or for a behavior to cease, please, (like the candles falling) has always worked for me. I don't like "wierd" in my home and if a spirit is going to hang about once in awhile or a lot, it needs to abide by that or I get out the white sage and Holy Water, because I *REALLY* hate phenomenon (I call it "neato-gee-whiz-shxt"). I am mediumistic to a fault and they know to just walk up so I can see them, speak up audibly, and/or carry on somewhere else. Ya know the old saying, If you have nothing to do, do it somewhere else....

I don't get bothered much as a result of being such a party pooper, and get occasional, to-the-point visits. It works for me.

Hope this gives you a few ideas.

Good wishes,
NS

Good ideas, Nile, and just to reiterate, I got from Nile's post that she was NOT suggesting that the wet spots that Mindpurge has experienced are due to those of animals or mother nature, but rather, I think her point was more that they eventually DID turn out to be normal after a bit of chronicling and perhaps some journaling. Again, this might not be in your case, but who knows? it will be interesting.

Good luck Mindpurge and I hope you find your "neato-gee-whiz-shxt" (ok i'm gonna be saying that a LOT now!) Keep us updated!

Hi OP- Sorry to hear of your issues. Just curious. Does any of this happen around the anniverary of a death of someone? Sorry for the random question. Just wondering. Take care Jody

Humidifier in the house? Any vents around the bed?

I worked in a grocery store, you would be amazed at the thing that don't make it down the belt all the way. And I have seen so many people just miss things while bagging stuff, also many carts are retrieved with things in them from falling out of the bags.

I don't think you have anything going on in your house, all of these things seem easy to explain.

Hugs Hezz Yes, I meant it as you read it, and am NOT in any position to say what caused the OP's wet spots. I just shared two experiences which leapt to mind as I read this thread. OTOH, I have experienced water phenomenon and never have found any answer for them. These, however, consist of being somewhere which has absolutely nothing to do with paranormal anything, and typically it is the furthest from my mind. Examples being deeply absorbed in a novel curled up in my easy chair, or vacuuming and zoning out from the boredom. From nowhere, a drop of ice cold water will hit my head or my arm. Like a raindrop, or teardrop. Just one, nothing above me to account for it, no water anywhere in sight. I live in an old farmhouse, no central air to be dripping from vents, no ceiling fan over me, nothing but bare wood ceiling and empty attic above that (no water pipes).

This has happened in the past several houses I have lived in, not often, but it has enough to remember it. Maybe a dozen times over the past dozen years.

For various reasons, I take it as a positive sign, like a reminder that somebody cares. I love the rain and it reminds me of the grace of God, so I take the raindrop thing as a reminder of that.... basically only because I have had no other answer for all of this time.

But, a drop is not a pool of water or soaking, so I don't know anything to help the OP further beyond confirming that there are water things that happen, but there is not much info about them, so they may be not be very common. I'd like to know what the OP finds out, if he/she ever does.

More good wishes,
NS

I recall some time back there was a thread about someone else having the same issue, either here or in the sightings section. Having a hard time finding it since we can't search for three letter words (wet). Anyone else recall that thread?

Wet spots???

Too much 'ghost' porn lying around the house perhaps?