Heartagram3200
Feb 29 2008, 12:55 AM
I have been trying Astral Projection for about 1 and a half months now, and I NEED TO GET OUT! I just can't take it anymore! I won't quit, but I just really wnat to experience this! It just seems so awsome, being free to go anywhere you want..Go to parts of the world, that alot of people never see..Explore the universe...Explore all the astral plains and realms, and be able to see things I never thought possible...
I just really want that! I've gotten help some people here (Darkbreed, Eternal me) And they have helped alot, with each of their suggestions making me progress further, but is there any one who might alos be able to help? Like methods that other guys use? I want to try everything...I have been having VERY vivid dreams, but no AP....The most I ever got out was when I sat in my room(asleep) but I was able to see everything...But It didn't hit me that I projected till a few hours after I was up...I didn't even relize I was out when I was just staring at my ceiling...
I just need maybe a little more help...
And, if anyone would be willing to come pull me out of my body or assist me by awakining my astral body, then please do so...
If you have any tips please post em here...
If you wanna help pull me out, PM me....
Thanks!
HumanTorch
Feb 29 2008, 01:49 AM
I have the same problem. but I think Im gonna project this week getting very close.
Heartagram3200
Feb 29 2008, 01:58 AM
QUOTE (nickynick360 @ Feb 28 2008, 08:49 PM)

I have the same problem. but I think Im gonna project this week getting very close.
Yea, I just haven't had the time to spend like 3 hours trying to project like I did when I had better results...I'm gonna try to project for as long as possible tonight though...I just really wanna do it! Nick...Tell me if you get out, cause if you cna get out then you can prolly pull me out of body....
Supernaturally Enhanced
Feb 29 2008, 02:21 AM
Iv got a very simple solution. Its not real. Iv tried it for over a year now with no luck at all, tried it at all times of day and nothin. Iv read almost everything on here about AP and tried all of it with no luck. Iv had sleep paralisis but thats a natural phanominon that your body does to you, its not because of AP. I know that much as a fact. Wish it was true really i do but For as long as iv tried it with no success iv come to believe its just very vivid dreams and not actual out of body experiences.
Drayno
Feb 29 2008, 02:31 AM
QUOTE (Supernaturally Enhanced @ Feb 28 2008, 08:21 PM)

Iv got a very simple solution. Its not real. Iv tried it for over a year now with no luck at all, tried it at all times of day and nothin. Iv read almost everything on here about AP and tried all of it with no luck. Iv had sleep paralisis but thats a natural phanominon that your body does to you, its not because of AP. I know that much as a fact. Wish it was true really i do but For as long as iv tried it with no success iv come to believe its just very vivid dreams and not actual out of body experiences.
It is not real until it is proven to not be real. To experience is to comprehend. Obviously, you failed in your attempt and have been discouraged heavily. There may be a logical explanation that denies it's existence. But, we will find out inevitably.
Supernaturally Enhanced
Feb 29 2008, 02:47 AM
QUOTE (Drayno Helvey @ Feb 28 2008, 07:31 PM)

It is not real until it is proven to not be real.
did u know thats a double negative. In the end your saying that its not real. You should have said It is real until proven not real..right? or did u mean the other way around. Sum real confusing stuff maan. If you did mean that it is Real until proven not real than Does that mean there is a such thing as a Flying Spaghetti Monster? Cus no one has ever disproven the existance of one yet.
Heartagram3200
Feb 29 2008, 02:55 AM
Hey man, could you learn to spell? I often make spelling erros and stuff, but it seems like you are just being lasy with your typing man...That gets annnoying...
Supernaturally Enhanced
Feb 29 2008, 02:59 AM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Feb 28 2008, 07:55 PM)

Hey man, could you learn to spell? I often make spelling erros and stuff, but it seems like you are just being lasy with your typing man...That gets annnoying...
Hey you can read well enough that you understand what im writing, Your not an english teacher are you? To me it kind of looks like you are getting a little angry about whats in my replys.
HumanTorch
Feb 29 2008, 04:39 AM
ahhhh dude hes asking for help not your opinion if it is real. If you want to give it do it but you dont have to keep flooding the board.
ZombieSkeptic
Feb 29 2008, 04:55 AM
QUOTE (Supernaturally Enhanced @ Feb 28 2008, 09:21 PM)

Iv got a very simple solution. Its not real. Iv tried it for over a year now with no luck at all, tried it at all times of day and nothin. Iv read almost everything on here about AP and tried all of it with no luck. Iv had sleep paralisis but thats a natural phanominon that your body does to you, its not because of AP. I know that much as a fact. Wish it was true really i do but For as long as iv tried it with no success iv come to believe its just very vivid dreams and not actual out of body experiences.
Aww because he can't do it, he says it isn't real. That says a lot about your character.
I can't do electrokinesis, yet I see your posts about it. So I guess because I can't do it it must not be real? Do you see your lapse in logic?
HumanTorch
Feb 29 2008, 05:00 AM
Just cause you never experienced it you cant say it is fake. Really you cant say bigfoot, aliens, ghosts, or unicorns

are fake. Ever wonder why scientist always say im 99.9% sure. Because even .000000000000001 is still a chance. So really all you have is an opinion
Siara
Feb 29 2008, 05:33 AM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Feb 29 2008, 01:55 AM)

If you have any tips please post em here...
Google "lucid dreaming" and try to achieve that first. It gives you direct access to your subconscious mind and is an incredible release, as well as being fascinating. I don't think NEEDING to astral project can have a positive outcome. It's one of those things you accidentally slip into. Once you touch base with your subconscious mind you will be much more relaxed and "integrated". Then you will find yourself astral projecting.
There are lots of websites describing how to achieve lucid dreaming. If, like me, you believe that everything is connected then astral projection isn't all that different from lucid dreaming. Your subconscious mind is connected to the Whole. Once you can do lucid dreaming, your conscious mind is connected to the Whole too.
Astral projection has this glamorous ambiance of "being enlightened" or "being psychic". There's a lot of hype about it. If I hadn't done it as a kid-- before I wanted to ACHIEVE things-- I would probably have a very hard time doing it, as I have a type-A personality. Try various techniques for lucid dreaming first and I bet you'll eventually slip into astral projecting too.
ps-- Astral projection is fascinating but it doesn't relieve the tensions of your everyday physical life. Try to separate your curiosity about astral projecting from your desire to escape the every day frustrations of social obligations, your job, etc. The former is not a solution to the latter.
Supernaturally Enhanced
Feb 29 2008, 05:39 AM
QUOTE (TheGentleGiant @ Feb 28 2008, 09:55 PM)

I can't do electrokinesis, yet I see your posts about it. So I guess because I can't do it it must not be real? Do you see your lapse in logic?
Obviously i was kidding in those posts but maybe you did not take the time to find that out for yourself. Not a problem though because I really dont care who reads or who does not read my few posts. To me AP is not real and that is a fare assumption on my part. Me not being able to do "AP" proves that FOR ME it is not real. Now the topic starterasked for help about his situation so i offered him some help. Whether he decides to take it or not is his deal. You can all attack my "charactor" as much as you want but that is not going to help this guy out either. I am merely lookin out for the guy; I tried it for quit a while and have never AP'd, so if he doesnt either then he really should not be too disapointed because he is not the only one. Might even be psychologically healthier if he stopped trying after some time. Even if it is just for a short time like taking a break from it. ANYWAYS im going to go hang out with that flying spaghetti monster now so hope you all have a superduper time Astrol Projecting.
MarkSteven
Feb 29 2008, 02:41 PM
i find it easier to lay down and try not to fall asleep, your eyes will start to feel heavy anyhow, just keep staying awake, but think to your self that you are floating. you will start to fall asleep but keep trying not to. if you just fall asleep then try again another time. if you are not able to go, then you have your reasons not to. as far as feeling paralyzed, it's your own willpower of your mind that makes you move. just like getting up, you don't think about it, you just get up.
Neits
Feb 29 2008, 10:19 PM
dont argue about if it is real or not, he asked for help about it
so yeah, it would be helpful to learn lucid dreaming before you try astral projection, its similiar and you will surely have better chances at AP
also, what method do you use, you must be focused and if you arent calm and focused it is better not to try and force it, try it later when you won't have many things in your mind
you could also try meditating before your trys at AP
good luck at trying
MarkSteven
Feb 29 2008, 10:27 PM
in order to enter a lucid state you need to be aware of your dream and take over, most of the time when this happens to me i am trying to figure out what the dream is about and i forget all about going lucid lol.
inkblot
Mar 1 2008, 12:07 AM
Try doing it when you have a chance to sleep in, because it's easier when you are slowly waking up. Also, it's easier to do if you have a larger attention span.
However, I do not believe in it. You see, when I am sleepy enough I have experiences similar to an AP. Like I will be able to see objects in my bedroom, but I know i'm in my bed and my eyes are closed. But, everything's dim and there are objects in the "AP" which don't have a real-world counterpoint, meaning it's all just a dream.
Heartagram3200
Mar 1 2008, 12:16 AM
When that happens, imagine yourself floating out of your body...Cuse if your in a deep enough state to see beings from the astral plane you should be able to AP...
SilverRain Queen
Mar 1 2008, 01:26 AM
Although I've never had problems astral travelling, others who do have had to be induced to experience flight.
In the past, witches have used 'Flying Ointment' to induce travel.......read here>>>>
Astral travel & flying ointmentShamans have induced their travels with certain plants and such as "Salvia Divinorum" etc.... here is a page that has a variety of different sacred methods>>>>
Shaman methodsMake sure you thoroughly read up and do research on the effects before using any of the above methods.
***Also you must be 18 or older....Sorry Heartagram3200 didn't realize your age till I just checked your profile....
Drayno
Mar 1 2008, 01:44 AM
I picked this technique up...
Relax , loosen your limbs. Be content. Breath slowly...very slowly...continue to breath , then focus only on the breathing. Visualize yourself drifting out of your body - toe to head. Fall asleep, remember Astral projection as you sleep. Eventually practice it. But do not use it for impure reasons - it may affect the ability to travel. Don't give up at all - you will get it. Try setting your alarm for the middle of the night when you are tired - it would be easier to drift away.
Heartagram3200
Mar 1 2008, 02:35 AM
QUOTE (Drayno Helvey @ Feb 29 2008, 08:44 PM)

I picked this technique up...
Relax , loosen your limbs. Be content. Breath slowly...very slowly...continue to breath , then focus only on the breathing. Visualize yourself drifting out of your body - toe to head. Fall asleep, remember Astral projection as you sleep. Eventually practice it. But do not use it for impure reasons - it may affect the ability to travel. Don't give up at all - you will get it. Try setting your alarm for the middle of the night when you are tired - it would be easier to drift away.
Does just maybe staying up until really late help a little, like make it easier?
Drayno
Mar 1 2008, 03:01 AM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Feb 29 2008, 09:35 PM)

Does just maybe staying up until really late help a little, like make it easier?
Any work , it all depends on you willing to do them. If you have the will, you can do it.
Heartagram3200
Mar 1 2008, 11:10 PM
K..
darkbreed
Mar 2 2008, 01:37 AM
One method is to lay down in bed when you are very tired, but instead of closing your eyes and turning off the light, keep light on at least enough to see the room, and eyes open and say to yourself " I will become aware in my astral body" and expect yourself to find yourself in your astral body still awake as your body will eventually be so tired it will fall asleep, but because you've been focused and alert and kept your eyes open looking around in the room taking notice of all details while thinking about becoming aware in your astral body, you'll most likely find yourself awake and in your astral body as soon your physical body falls asleep.
Actually you may not even realize that your physical body is asleep, and think that you are still awake and in your physical body, because you may find yourself in your astral body but within your physical body and with astral sight so you can see the room just as normal, so perhaps you should think about floating up towards the ceiling as well
Best of luck
Heartagram3200
Mar 2 2008, 02:59 AM
I'll try that...Sounds good..Thanks!
Jaystar
Mar 2 2008, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (Drayno Helvey @ Mar 1 2008, 12:44 PM)

I picked this technique up...
Relax , loosen your limbs. Be content. Breath slowly...very slowly...continue to breath , then focus only on the breathing. Visualize yourself drifting out of your body - toe to head. Fall asleep, remember Astral projection as you sleep. Eventually practice it. But do not use it for impure reasons - it may affect the ability to travel. Don't give up at all - you will get it. Try setting your alarm for the middle of the night when you are tired - it would be easier to drift away.
Hello everyone, first time posting decided to register today but i've been going through these forums for quiet sometime now.
This is the exact technique i have been using and i havn't quiet gotten out of my body yet.
I've been studying kung fu for almost 7 years and eventually we will learn how to AP, Aura sight etc but i don't want to wait that long so i've taken some initiative.
I've seen bright flash's of light above my head before and kind of shocked me and i woke up, i've had the snap back feeling many times before while i was younger and sleeping on the couch and watching TV but never really understood what it was until i studied kung fu and then deciding to read up alot more about it.
Yesterday around 4am got home and decided to try it again as it seem's like a good time, i was laying there then i start hearing voices of what seem's to be my friends, then eventually it got to this loud ringing sound like a bell or something it was getting louder and louder and i thought this is it then all of a sudden it just all disappeared and went silent again.
Was i almost out of my body and just getting too excited about it all?
and when ever i lay there i notice my body feel really tense and stiff, and i focusing too hard or it should i just relax more?
anyways any insight from experience people that do AP frequently would be nice, as i am totally fasinated about it and would love to learn more of what you have to share
AngelOfMusic
Mar 2 2008, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (Jaystar @ Mar 2 2008, 11:35 AM)

Hello everyone, first time posting decided to register today but i've been going through these forums for quiet sometime now.
This is the exact technique i have been using and i havn't quiet gotten out of my body yet.
I've been studying kung fu for almost 7 years and eventually we will learn how to AP, Aura sight etc but i don't want to wait that long so i've taken some initiative.
I've seen bright flash's of light above my head before and kind of shocked me and i woke up, i've had the snap back feeling many times before while i was younger and sleeping on the couch and watching TV but never really understood what it was until i studied kung fu and then deciding to read up alot more about it.
Yesterday around 4am got home and decided to try it again as it seem's like a good time, i was laying there then i start hearing voices of what seem's to be my friends,
then eventually it got to this loud ringing sound like a bell or something it was getting louder and louder and i thought this is it then all of a sudden it just all disappeared and went silent again.
Was i almost out of my body and just getting too excited about it all?
and when ever i lay there i notice my body feel really tense and stiff, and i focusing too hard or it should i just relax more?
anyways any insight from experience people that do AP frequently would be nice, as i am totally fasinated about it and would love to learn more of what you have to share

What's highlighted in bold, was it like a school bell ringing? And di you hear other things? Because at four in the morning yesterday i had (i think) an RV moment and could hear like pots and pans, and then a school bell and marching feet, so i thought i was Remote viewing, but couldn't see. So if it was a school bell did you hear it too??
Best Wishes, AoM xx
Jaystar
Mar 2 2008, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (AngelOfMusic @ Mar 3 2008, 05:39 AM)

What's highlighted in bold, was it like a school bell ringing? And di you hear other things? Because at four in the morning yesterday i had (i think) an RV moment and could hear like pots and pans, and then a school bell and marching feet, so i thought i was Remote viewing, but couldn't see. So if it was a school bell did you hear it too??
Best Wishes, AoM xx
yes it was like a school bell ringing. The other things i herd before the school bell ringing was like the thoughts of my close friends, it was as if i was in side their head and i could hear what they were thinking.
i didnt hear the marching feet tho, so what is remote viewing?
MarkSteven
Mar 3 2008, 01:48 PM
i was out between lucid and ap last night lol, it started in a dream, i realized i was in the dream and realized i was floating through the ceiling backward lol, once i figured that out i froze up, i didn't have an agenda so i just sat there for a few seconds and came back. my focus was blank so i didn't continue, this happens a lot when i randomly pop out.
the^analyst
Mar 4 2008, 11:03 AM
not believing is the first step in not achieving. Human beings are and will never be able to discover, explain, and reach everything in this universe so cut off being skeptic about everything! It is true even if just in our brains, we're happy about it
Future
Mar 4 2008, 11:52 AM
I have been trying on and off with varied levels of effort. It is pretty tricky. By the way, I advise staying away from any cable with electricity running through it.
darkbreed
Mar 4 2008, 12:55 PM
Interesting that you mention electric cables. Is that because you've read about it, or experienced it? The reason I ask is because I've heard about this a couple times, but personally I've never experienced anything that suggest electricity somehow affects you while astral projecting.
So why exactly do you advise staying away from live cables while projecting?
QUOTE (Future @ Mar 4 2008, 11:52 AM)

I have been trying on and off with varied levels of effort. It is pretty tricky. By the way, I advise staying away from any cable with electricity running through it.
Future
Mar 4 2008, 01:05 PM
Well the most success I have ever had with trying to "get out" was one night about a year and a half ago I was completely determined. I meditated for 2 hours straight using varied techniques. I don't know how much I buy into the whole chakra thing but I tried going through the whole chakric meditation as well as focusing on "drawing in energy" and repeating phrases and whatnot. Any way. After 2 hours I was kind of in a king tut position and my consciousness was barely there. There was almost a voice but more of knowledge booming in my head that let me know "It is time" . I pushed myself out and it felt like I was focusing all of my self through a singularity. I was in my room spatially it felt, and light had a very odd quality to it. I didn't need it to see, but at the same time there was an odd green glow comming from my charged cell phone. Before I could think more of it I felt a burning sensation in my back. I couldn't get away from it and this total OBE lasted maybe 20 seconds. I came to in my body and reached under my back and my cell phone charger wire was under my back. I was pretty upset. Since then I have not been as successful with Projecting but I can't say I have spent that sort of focus on it since.
AngelOfMusic
Mar 5 2008, 09:22 PM
QUOTE (Jaystar @ Mar 2 2008, 07:18 PM)

yes it was like a school bell ringing. The other things i herd before the school bell ringing was like the thoughts of my close friends, it was as if i was in side their head and i could hear what they were thinking.
i didnt hear the marching feet tho, so what is remote viewing?
Yeah, basically i decided that i could AP in my sleep (in one of my sleep starved moments i assure you) and i think i started to, but then all i could hear was pots and pans and stuff, like in a kitchen, then a school bell and marching. Basically i think i did AP, but i don't think i remember it, and then i remote viewed, which is basically when you see, smell and hear things from a different place and time (correct me if i'm wrong please!) but unfortunately i could only hear, and picture it in my head by the sounds i was hearing. But it's probably differnt, as i'm guessing you're in America? So it will be different time zones, i'm not educated fully on this topic (Rv, not time)
Best Wishes, AoM xx
Andiepanda
Mar 5 2008, 10:00 PM
I am having problems achieving AP as well. Today I was practicing and just trying to relax my body and my mind and then all of a sudden I felt as though I was going to throw up! I'm not sure what I did wrong

Also, I cannot seem to keep myself focused once I'm completely relaxed, my thoughts just seem to go everywhere! Anyone have any tips?
darkbreed
Mar 6 2008, 12:56 AM
If you haven't done so already, feel free to read through my thread "Increase your astral projection skills" at
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=118375 and maybe you'll find something useful there that can help you.
Best of luck be with you , just keep on practicing

-EA
QUOTE (Andiepanda @ Mar 5 2008, 11:00 PM)

I am having problems achieving AP as well. Today I was practicing and just trying to relax my body and my mind and then all of a sudden I felt as though I was going to throw up! I'm not sure what I did wrong

Also, I cannot seem to keep myself focused once I'm completely relaxed, my thoughts just seem to go everywhere! Anyone have any tips?
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