QUOTE (REBEL @ Mar 1 2008, 05:47 PM)

lol! I just picked the first couple of
Moon Landing ''photos/Pics'' that looked ok on
Googley Googley Google Search.
I gotta say it tho MID if it hasn't already on this entire forum,
Photoshop® or rather
Adobe® Photoshop® CS3 Extended (professional) has killed off any credibility of genuine photography out there as say for evidence & or conclusive proof. I mean sweet jesus how do ya pick the difference of what is real & what isn't anymore???.............''Its basically all photography shot to hell''.
As an example, one of these is fake....which one
?
You certainly have a point REB...
This makes it really tough. Although there are certainly tell-tale signs that something might be amiss in a photo, like that one that belial had posted of two guys on the Moon at the same time in the same frame.
In the case of the flag pictures you post, it's a little tougher, because they are both obviously the same flag in seemingly mirror images.
However, there are a couple of things which would lead me to think the right one is the bogus picture, with a caveat:
1. The star field on an American flag is navy blue, as on the left, not royal blue, as on the right.
2. The flag stood at head level when erected on Apollo missions. Thus, one should expect that the horizon when photographed from a chest level Hasselblad would appear below the level of the flag...unless their was a mountain in the distance. Note that the ground behind the flag in the right hand picture rises to a level almost to the top of the flag, which implies that theres a huge slope that extends out some 4 miles from the flag and rises steadily to thousands of feet. No such terrain existed at any Apollo landing site.
3. Note the size of the Resseau mark in the center of the right photo. This appears to indicate that the background on the right photo had the flag super-imposed upon it, and that this background is actually a crop of a small part of another photo, and also note that the footprints around the base of the flag in the photo are very large in relation to the flag. They're about a size 15 shoe...and no one had feet that big on Apollo (couldn't really, since such a person would've been 7 feet tall, and unable to qualify as an astronaut at that height!).
4. The biggie....the shadows on the right flag are in the wrong places...preceisely. The sun in both shots is coming from the left and rear of the flag. The shadow on the star field in the lower right corner of the right hand flag couldn't be there with the sun at that angle...
It's possible to tell if you look very carefully at these things.
But you're right, these tech devices to tend to render photgraphic evidence in doubt if you don't really know what you're looking at, and the person doing the photoshopping is really careful.
Fortunately, most of them aren't very careful!
Now, the caveat is, we're only seeing crops of both pictures...
The one on the right could be a very close crop of a photo shot from a distance, which could show a horizon at an elevated angle, depending on the terrain the photographer stood on. It could also be from the other side of the flag...which can't be seen from this cropped version....
It looks like the Sun's coming from a similar angle in both pictures, but....it's possible, due to a close crop (which seems probable to me) that we're looking at a different angle and that shadow in the right frame could be out of context because we can't see the whole picture...
Quite a quandary I'd say!