Some people don't believe in the rules of Karma.
They are basically simple.
1 if you steal from someone,you in turn will be stolen from.
2If you cheat on your woman or man, you in turn will be cheated on.
Those are just a couple. Do you believe?

I believen karma. It has happaned to me many times as a punishment for my negative actions.

I do believe what you put will come back to you good or bad.

I am not sure about karma but the bible tells us.....


Galatians 6:7
7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.

I have always heard my dad say you will reap what you sow.
Always a pleasure

i think that karma (whoever named it that) is just obvious really, things are bound to happen to you like that, and they do, everything goes in roundabouts... although, now at the age of 38 i feel i know a little more about these strange happenings...

i believe if you see someone do something and you are totally disgusted or cant understand one iota why someone could do such a thing, then you will do it one day, just to make you understand life/god/spirit?/? as a way of making you understand what you could not before,,

never say never is one of my motto's and also, if you cant understand it dont try to....

well...i don't steal and i have had an x-box, PS2, super nintindo, a blanket, some pain pills, 3 cell phones, my drivers licence, credit card, checkbook, a camera, and probably some money stolen from me within the last 4 months.

I help people when i can and I need help now and no one but my roommate is helping out.

so no I can't say as karma is real.

Most definantly.............. all things happen for a reason. Tis a matter of balance.
Luck only lasts as long as one can get away with it.
Be two steps ahead on a good day and you'll find you can beat Karma and avoid being bitten in the butt.
Take one step back on a bad day and be prepared for everything as you know it fall though.

Karma is an element of life, and as long one skimes dark waters avoiding the straight and narrow, you will always end up in the deep end.
If one dives to the depth of ones potential and you make it through, then holding ones breath in fear was worth it.

Of course I believe in karma. You can call it what you will but it is a concept that has been around for a long time and as such has been appropriated in some form by most of the worlds religions. Even Jesus taught the laws of karma when he said treat your brother as yourself, that is just one example of one of the stories the bible co opted. The old testament does too in the "eye for an eye" passage. It is basically saying, live with kindness if you want kindness returned and don't expect anything that you aren't prepared to give in turn.

I agree Sandee, and i also read in the bible(Can't remember where) That all good you do will be returned three fold, and the bad will be returned ten fold! I,m not sure how the rules of Karma work, but it,s all along the same lines, and i have deffinatly reaped what i,ve sown! So yes i most surely believe in it!

Ah but it works on a larger scale as well. For instance Ive never had much luck with money (although enough to live a comfortable middle class life, in a rich western country is more than most get) On the other hand i've been blessed in all the impt aspects of life; love, friendship, work, health etc. '

I hope you have a compensating run of luck or blessings, either elsewhere in your life, or later in it.

In general response to the OP

On both a metaphysical and practical level, i have found that how we feel about, and treat, our fellow man, both influences how they treat us and, more importantly, how we percieve the way they treat us.

It is our feelings, engendered by our actions and our knowledge of ourseves and our actions, which often determines both the actuality and the perception of karma in our lives. Only a true sociopath is able to dis-associate his actions from his perception of how the world treats him. That is because, to himself, he is the world.

Unless you really know someone, it would be hard to tell how they feel about you, trust is part and parcel.
How we percieve the way they treat us only comes due to experiance.

You can be nice as pie to anyone and everyone, but the way one is treated can easily be thrown back into your face or.....It can be embraced for the good of friendships, life etc.

Is this what you mean, sort of?

I'd like too , but I've seen where it hasn't come about too many times.

take for example all the people all over the world starving/ children dying because of a few in power and their political or religious beliefs . power.

the average person here who lives their lives well to always seeming to come up short. some are happy and some are not.

the person with a great job who wins the lotto.

the rich who keep getting richer at the expense of others. some are happy some are not. some get rich on their own merits and some are happy some are not.

it's life... that's all it is. none were promised a rose garden. but we do get the experience.

Here is my take on Karma.

Ok so you are a thief and you steal. But because the people you are stealing from have bad karma and deserve to be stolen from the guy who is stealing from them doesn't get any bad karma.

Can this thief get away with stealing because he is the Karmic messenger? Or does he himself in turn get bad karma for being the person who must punish those who have bad karma?

It's a circle that doesnt make any sence. The karma must be abolished somehow or other but how? The thief cant just get away with all his stealing can he?

If not then Karma is not real. I cannot get around this and yet i believe in karma. It's a profound mystery i believe.

I'm a great believer in Karma (Universal Law Of Consequences)...Karma is King

A mystery and a half I say. I dont think that the bad Karma from one being is placed on to the other directly. I heard something once about how a butterfly can flap its wings on one side of the world and a piano can fall from a 10 storey building on the otherside of the world at the exact same time. So in that I mean, everything is connected somewhere some how, so if a thief steals from a guy be it karma will pop up to those how are due but not as a result from given happening.

No I don't believe in Karma.

I think there are consequences for actions, like I murder - therefore I go to jail. I am nasty to friends therefore they don't want to be my friends anymore. But this is just learning 'life's lessons' of how other people react to your actions.

I think it would be nice to think that there is an intrinsic justice in the world.

I believe there is a law of God and a law of karma. So I think karma is more like a man made law, and the law of God is a higher law. It is above karma.

It's like saying that God is love, but if you do something bad then He will punish you with karma. And I dont really think God works in that way. I mean.. if someone steals from you, I think if you hope that karma gets revenge for you then I think that is not very forgiving and isnt really in accordance to Gods laws.

So in a way you pick which law you want to live under.

Not really. Karma has nothing to do with how others feel about us. Our karma comes back from our attitude to and treatment of others. Even if others appear to throw your good intentions back in your face, your karma increases and will come back to you in another shape or form. Everytime we do something we know is right we increase our karma. Its summed up in sayings from many cultures such, as you reap what you sow.

In practical terms a person who lives a caring and moral life is statistically more likely to live a happier safer and more rewarding life, but it is more than that, it is also the way such a person will feel as a result of their actions.

Yes, I believe in it, too.

I'd say Karma is a fair one. It must come from God as God is the most fair one.

yep i belive, what goes around comes around

Karma is defined by easy Netwons law.

Each Action should have a reaction
Each energy which got released should have a negative end or vice versa, to complete the circuit.

Whenever we make an action, our mind is distorted and when we experience the reaction, our mind returns to the original state and we feel either pleasure or pain depending on the nature of the original action. Many times, the process of action and reaction works like this. There is an action and immediately following it the person experiences the reaction. If there has been no change of time, place and person the reaction will be equal in strength to the original action.

http://www.anandamarga.org/spiritual-philo...incarnation.htm

So if you kill your neighbor, then its from God that your other neighbor kills you(and who then kills him)? And does that then mean God is bound by that law as well... Confusing hey... considering it was love thy neighbor which is what He apparently said.

I just think some people love the thought of karma because they look at it as payback or something, which imo is sad because its not forgiving. It's.. potentially vengeful which isnt what I thought Christ was about. Which is why I dont believe in karma like that.

Karma Test My monitor mysteriously went flying out the window after i read my result...strange?

Yes, I believe in the said 'rules' above. And yes, those are simple. But how many other ways does Karma work?

Karma is not as small as a person, though. I think those 2 rules mentioned are parts of the Dharma of a person.

Karma is the process of liberation of the ego from the process of birth/death.

Dharma is the set of circumstances that are presented in your life to reach Karma.

Karma then, would be the overall judgement of your total actions, not necessarily one or the other.

Great scripture, I believe in karma under the statement that no crime goes unpunished, GOD is fair and just, He even tells us do unto others as you would have done unto you

You know I used to be a very selfish person, so I tried this Karma thing, but what I found was the act of doing good deeds was fulfilling in itself.

So do I think Karma is a real thing? No, but if it motivates people to do good, that's good enough for me.

Everybody has the right to fulfill a prescribed destiny. If a person starts out on a road well travelled, he usually is confined to the markings on the road. The markings have their own reward.

James 1:5 (New International Version)


5If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.

I believe we should give without wanting in return and what we do give we will be blessed for.
The bible tells us (Corinthians I believe) that the righteous will receive what the unrighteous owns, that all the riches they have will be ours.

I agree with the above quotes.

The only way Karma works is if you make it work.

For instance you steal something, and thus feel guilty and allow something bad to happen to yourself. Its a load but if it keeps people on the straight and narrow, more power to them.

I prefer to do the 'right' thing because I think its what I should do.

There is however a very dark and mean side to the rules of Karma. For instance in many Asian countries the religion is Buddhism here they treat people with mental and physical disabilities quite badly (not evryone but a few) the reason for this is because they believe that you must of done something really bad in your past life therefore karma is making you suffer in this one!

Hmmm I have run into that belief a few times at different work places actually. It was Christians who stated it strangely enough (I didn't think it had anything to do with Christianity) First one was a friend who professed this belief - I was quite shocked and there was a lil debate. How anybody could seriously think a child with a disability is having their Karma is rather demented IMO.

Second time a lady got breast cancer and my boss said 'maybe it was her Karma' or something similar. Things got a little heated after that.

karma is in the same category as the idea of a "God." It's not something that can be physically or in any way proven actually exsists, but the idea of "karma" or God for that matter could be evident in one's life.

I believe in both.

In my opinion, karma is God's unbias judgement on people's lives. God would recognize people's negative actions and even thoughts, and find seemingly ironic ways to incoporate the negativity you generated back into your own life.

Are you iplying that God has a sense of humor?

Because such a sense seems noticeably lacking in the Bibles