It’s amazing how many people are finally finding out (and believing) phenomena the Bible stated over 5,000 years ago. A case in point is Michael Bishop’s guest column in the Missoulian on Feb. 3, “More Americans accepting idea of aliens visiting Earth.” The fact that outer-space visitors are making appearances on Earth is nothing new.

Zechariah, writing in 500 B.C., records that he looked up and saw a “flying scroll” with dimensions given as 30 feet by 20 feet, which line up with some of the accounts of the past 100 years. He then saw a UFO that resembled a big bushel basket with a lid on it, and then two women came out of it! They then flew this contraption over to “Shinar,” which is modern-day Iraq, formerly known as Babylon, and set it down on a base. This puts all of the interest in that area of the world into proper perspective.

This is not the first time visitors from outer space were recorded in the “old book.” In Genesis 6, prior to the universal flood, there was an appearance of the “sons of God.” These were fallen angels who rebelled along with Lucifer and were cast out of heaven. They caused great havoc, to say the least. Luke records in chapter 17:26, that “as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the son of man.” The context is the second coming of Jesus Christ. In other words, we can expect the events of Genesis 6 to be repeated, increasing in frequency, as that day draws near. Bishop’s documented studies prove what I just said.

Other sources confirm the connection between what man has “discovered” and that other “history book,” the Bible. Johannes Nohl, in his book, “The Black Death,” records the sightings of more than 25 UFOs in the 1500s: “Disruptions in the atmosphere, storms, unusual invasion of insects and celestial phenomena” were followed by some sort of plague that killed thousands of people. You might want to rethink your interest in “making friends” with the inhabitants of these vessels.

Bishop’s conclusions, along with help from Hollywood (“E.T.,” etc.) and the general media, are setting the world up to accept these aliens as just folks of another culture from whom we can learn something. In actuality, they are devils in humanoid form. They and their “leader” have had access to this earth for 6,000 years and are soon coming in “full color.” Anyone who says they are not satanic has swallowed the devil’s lie hook, line and sinker.

Daniel (7-11) tells us that when the Antichrist (the devil in human form) comes, he will be charming, charismatic and will bring a false peace by his policies as he sits down at peace tables. Other Scriptures go on to say that at some point the Antichrist will cause all to take his “number” and “mark.” My advice is, don’t do it!

The same book, that old archaic King James Bible, that told you all of the above, says your only hope is accepting another “man” who was God in human form, the Lord Jesus Christ, who came to “seek and save that which is lost.”

Trust him and you’ll be ready for a quick escape from planet Earth when all these things come to pass.


By JOHN HAVEMAN

I still abide by the old adage that every person's worst enemy stares back at them in the mirror every day, and that Extraterrestrials, regardless of their affiliation or factions (if they have any), are still family.

But yeah, the Bible does outline many encounters and sightings, and so do the legends and stories of the world's Indigenous Peoples and other cultures.

But so many other times the church has been at the ready with the 'heretic' claim. Thier track record in persecuting the wrong folks is long and filled. I'd tend to be a bit gunshy when dealing with the claims.

It is a very interesting angle to the whole story though...but one some Christians maybe trying to shoehorn in to make it mesh with their own doctorine.

Makes for interesting reading though!

what i found so bizarre in these acclaimed aliens in the bible is that ets are always so humans like, they were never described as small grey people with large eyes, or anything like that...

Look up Alien Nordics

True, but in a field such as this, we really don't have any proof that they're small and gray either - aside for witness testimonies. In addition, we might be looking at something which spans a vast spectrum of "looks", ranging from ultradimensional entities that might be able to materialize/dematerialize at will to ones that might be small and gray or else tall and blonde, blueskinned and dark haired, etc. Even crazier than that is that we might be looking at something that is all of these in one. And that's not even getting into holograms, physical nature spirits, etc. We really don't know. The entire thing is still one giant question mark. Logically I tend to believe that these beings resemble us in almost every way, but realistically (aside for not even knowing 100% that they even exist) I also have to leave the door open to the idea that they might not really resemble us at all.

Whatever the truth is, we'd better start getting ready. Most people tend to think that things will get fired up soon on an international level.

I think some thing is going to happen soon. I wounder what kind of wake up call it will be.

I would expect anything for aliens aspect but not that they would be humans from another world... Maybe if these nordics were holograms, robots or just a image projected in our brains, created by an advanced species to make some contact.

At least for now the greys existence appear more plausible for me.

If the entire UFO thing were entirely new today and people didn't have any preconceived notions of it whatsoever, most people would probably go with the "human appearance" element - not having else to go by.

Why is people having the idea that something is to happen that will reveal et presence? I dont see any news on ufo phenomena, its all the same, back 50 years ago.

You can say there is a increasing in sightings to prepare the world for the encounter, but this is not happening, what is happening is more people misleading terrestrial events with ufos. And one or two cases still open...


The only point valid maybe is the technology today is more accessible and we have the possibility someone capture a real flying saucer with their camera or cell phone.

If things do not happen soon, we will degenerate into further debauchery and shenanigans and kill ourselves off on an international level. That is why something great to help turn things around MUST happen soon.

The funy thing is... with all the people that believe something like this, sects of humanity are likely to start attacking and trying to kill any alien visitors that arrive, whether they seem peaceful or not.

Guaranteed. I could see all kinds of whackos outfitting themselves with energy based and conventional weapons trying to kick some alien ass if disclosure ever takes place.

People can dismiss ufo,aliens all they want. No proof do you think all that have seen ufo are lyers? Yea mabe some but not all. Why is it so far fetched that we are the only living race? And as for ass kickin.....im going with the aliens.

nothing new under the sun.....samething that is going on for at least 50000y ago....

For the most part, I'd have to agree. This is one case where David would definitely lose to Goliath.

Irish, Do you think aliens are evil? Just askin.

If we consider the shear number of possible inhabited planets in the universe, the likelihood of them all being benevolent creatures that would love to share tea and crumpets with us are highly un-lightly. That being said trust is an earned response so I would be very skeptical of first contact motives.

Irish

Thanks

Watching the recent political zoofest here in the USA, it does not take a great stretch of the imagination to guess why an advanced civilization might think we are not up to the challenge of discerning good cultures from bad ones out there or the proper interactions and responses to either.

Totally new under the sun: it is the very first time as far we know that a single species (us) is headed towards being responsible not only for massive death tolls amongst its own kind, but also for many thousands of other animal and plant species - as well as the degradation of nearly every ecosystem we have save for the Earth's core. Nothing new under the Sun...riiiight.

Oh come on....

Your avatar name doesn't give your comment any credibility you know. I've worked as an environmentalist in the Canadian education system (not an oxymoron, by the way - at least, not a deliberate one) for a period of around ten years. You obviously don't know how high the stakes are in terms of looming food shortages, environmental degradation, and the like to say "oh come on".

ahaha, oh man. i was just about to say the same thing to them. good call

the kids just got some new toys, but they are still playing the same game over and over.

I think the book of Ezekiel in the bible gives the best reference to aliens. for those that might want to read it: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze001.html

I just dont know any more.

Growing up secular, I didn't read the bible. Although, I am not surprised, that even there, there is reported alien encounters, if they are indeed, encounters. I didn't think that the only encounters, were the ones that we are familiar with in the last less than 100 years, where there is more technology. I have read, where some historians have theories of alien evidence, and possible crossbreeding with them. I would think, if we have been visited from time to time in the currant times, myself included, than it is so more than likely, it has happened for all of Earth's past.

also, if you read about moses. theres the Large craft/thing/object in the sky that kept his people safe from the deadly rays from the sun when walking around in the desert forever. and it gave them light at night. interesting stuff

Then why aliens was so careful with christians and why they are keeping so distant now? I think we are more ready for contact now than 2000 or 10000 years ago.

i dunno.....we have nukes now

maybe because we have advanced some enough to be more dangerous. ?

I believe that aliens were involved in the case of Exodus:

1. Mankind is a product of series of experimental engineering project done by alien species.
2. Aliens observe evolutions of human civilizations for long periods of time that takes about millenia or so.
3. Alien = God

Presuming that ancient humans tended to denote everything that was unexplainable and awe-inspiring as God or something similar to the concept, we can imagine by pushing aside the concerns of symbolic elements in the description, Moses and the pre-Israelites did indeed see something unusual at the time. If the Exodus is the true account of history, then they really are the chosen people by God. I mean out of all the polythesims in the world believed by most ancient civilizations during the time, why would only the Jews suddenly develop the concept of One God out of the thin air (Of course followed by Queran some thousand five years later)? Surely Moses was inspired by something that triggered him to lead out the slaves out of bondage, and that source of inspiration came from aliens in UFO, who somehow succeeded in indoctrinating Moses through maybe abducting and enlightening him. But then the questions, why would aliens choose insignifcant slaves as their people? Why would aliens interfere with human affairs at all? Maybe, the aliens passed general idea to Moses, and Moses planned out his own scheme. The Jews eventually came to believe that they were the chosen people by God, though in fact, they were chosen by Moses. Moses was the chosen by God. Aliens wanted to accelerate the growth of human civilization somehow for unknown reason, and the foundation of acceleration lied in the ten commandmants given to Moses.

There is NOTHING in the jewish bible about aliens or UFOs. You are reacting strictly to INTERPRETATION from the uneducated in such matters.

What if History could be altered in such way that what you believe to be factual is really an illusion? For instance what if Jesus Christ while walking in the desert really wasn't tempted by Say'tan but instead because he fasted was able to leave his body and determine that the transmission was coming from the 20th century. It had nothing to do with the Devil offering him cities, it was all about where the Devil was hiding.

You see when Christ performed the miracles there was futuristic covert action happening. Let me explain, when Christ performed the bread for the multitudes of people he was showing mankind a futuristic covert event that he would be executing. That event would enable him to split himself, part remaining in the desert to later perform the Crucifixion and be received by Heaven the other part of him to be born in the 20th century.

Now the part of him that received Heaven is fine but the "Christ Consciousness" part of him that came to the 20th century in search of the Say'tan didn't have a great existence but this was too be expected. Afterall the enemy would learn that part of the Christ Consciousness returned to Earth because it would be difficult for the 20th century Christ not to get caught up in the drug world for a major portion of his life. During this time, because of him being wounded he would be unaware of who he really was. Basically he would be easy pickings for the bad guys.

But as time worn on the Christ Consciousness that was present in the 20th Century would hook up with his true nature and eventually the enemy would be discovered. This would not be able to occur had not the Alpha (that part of Christ in Heaven) with the Omega (that part of Christ Consciousness present in the last days of the physical world).

Now we get down to the important part of the story, the understanding of why this bad guy is transmitting in this century and why this is really about good and evil. Without going into detail lets say for the sake of an argument, the number nine is a magical number where all of creations secrets are stored. If one bad apple were to take it he could use it to create unthinkable destruction both on a major scale and on an individual personnel level.

Well the unthinkable did happen and the Angel Samyaza stole the nine and is taking chaos and creating destruction and now its time to give this DOG his day. Him and his gang of misfits including Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal are now going to get what they deserve. (Genesis 6)

Actually Samyaza is the only one needed here because when the leader is deposed then his followers automatically fold also. Now, you might think that the Christ Consciousness would have free reign to authorize the appropriate sentence but thats not the case. Its all about proper procedure and thats where the Father comes into play. You see Christianity has been flip flopping for years whether there is a Father or whether the Father and Son are actually one in the same.
Had not the Books of Enoch been removed by Emperor Constantine when the Canons were created mankind would have known the name of the Father, and that the Father and Son are two different entities. Mankind would have learned the name of the Father:
that the tenth heaven is where God resides, and in the Hebrew tongue he is called Aravat Or, "Father of creation." This is all found in the Secrets of Enoch Chapter 20.
In fact this 10th level where the Father resides is also the premise of the String Theory which consists of 10 levels. So now we have science and GOD on the same page.
Now all thats left is the identification of Samyaza and where he is located and what will happen to him? Right now its more important that after I identify him is he willing to go off for a period of 1,000 Earth years and allow us to thrive in peace. Because of his abuse of the nine he has to be imprisoned but it could be commuted to the state of nothingness if he chooses not to fight. If he chooses to fight us then remember those nightmares you all woke up to in the middle of the night, thanking God for removing you from that dream. God removed you from what he (Samyaza) would have planned for you after your death. The Father is well aware of what he has planned and because the Father is wise and merciful he wishes to give the one who stole the keys of heaven a second chance. Thats the way the Father operates, anybody got a problem with it take it up with him don't blame me, I'm just the messenger.

Why would the Devil need spaceships since he and his army are suppose to be in spirit. I would venture to say that these aliens were conquerers and trying to take over the Earth.

Considering we're the dog pooping all over the house these days, I don't trust our judgment to decide that our watchers are evil. In fact, I'd sooner say most of them are good - like us.

I hope your right Digital. Because if there not we are in BIG trouble. I think that there are many different races of aliens like humans im thinkin there are good and bad. I think its the good ones that are warning us of our mistreatment to our planet.

I've always said that if all or most extraterrestrials are bad then we stand no chance whatsoever in hoping to survive and evolve past this planet. None whatsoever. We may as well all commit suicide if all or most Earth visiting extraterrestrials are evil. I'm not deluded enough to think that we actually stand a chance against evil beings that have technology and a social structure light years ahead of ours in terms of development. It would be like a two year old child going up against the SAS.

I say ransack the Catholic Church and Vatican in Rome and see what they really know about it all?

Thats an idea i have tossed around myself. Imagine all you could find after years of studying their secrets.

REBEL your on to some thing there.

The israelites were not the first people around to belive in one single god. The Egyptian were, under Amenophi III (Akhenaton) he banned all other gods from the reign, and forced the people to worship Aton. After his dead, the "anomaly" was cancelled and the people turn to worship their gods.
Perhaps Moses was a priest of Aton? after all Moses is a Egyptian surname like TuthMosis.

Maybe he was instead a follower of Amon. The cult of the god Amon, had some monolatrick sect (monolatri= there are other gods around, but we worship only one) after all the pre israelites were not monotheistick, but monolatric.

Ok sorry for the ot.
Back in topik.

Let's see, Moses was a Hebrew, who was found by the daughter of Pharoah and raised in the house of Pharoah so i'm sure he had a Egyptian name, and there were so many gods that they worshipped, so he probably just randomly picked one. Look Here. Sorry, back on topic.

Ransack the Vatican? Hmm........just think of all the 'forbidden' and historical things you'd find in there!

I think you really are onto somethin' here!

I would say the anti-Christ is George Bush. However, he isn't charismatic or charming, so that rules him out.

We're already using that mark right now. We're even using it to communicate. And it's not even all that evil.

I'd agree but a little bit differently...
For instance, does the Bible even say that "the antichrist" is the devil in human flesh? The antichrist are those that are against Christ - that's what it means, and what is written about him/them is as follows:

1 John 2:18 [ Warning about Antichrists ] Dear children, the last hour is here. You have heard that the Antichrist is coming, and already many such antichrists have appeared. From this we know that the last hour has come.
1 John 2:22 And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. [ Or not the Messiah.] Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist. [ Or the antichrist.]
1 John 4:3 But if someone claims to be a prophet and does not acknowledge the truth about Jesus, that person is not from God. Such a person has the spirit of the Antichrist, which you heard is coming into the world and indeed is already here.
2 John 1:7 I say this because many deceivers have gone out into the world. They deny that Jesus Christ came [ Or will come.] in a real body. Such a person is a deceiver and an antichrist.

That aside, look at the Babylon parallelity! The ruler(s) of the world has/have many times been referred to as Babylon, reminiscent of Babylon of old who, although prospered to being a world power, turned away from God and sinned and got toppled. Now you know that Babylon doesn't exist like it did in the old days, but it is mentioned like it still exists and has existed and that on that day in revelation, it's going to be taken care of once and for all - Also, the false prophet and the beast and the dragon will be destroyed. Now, Babylon rides atop the dragon and sits upon the many waters. There are parallels in Revelation on it and the dragon is paralleled to be the first beast, the beast out of the water. The more commonly mentioned beast is the beast out of the earth, the second out of the trinity of dragon, beast, and false prophet. Now the beast out of the water had hands like a bear, a body like a leopard, etc... basically, the signs that God put in the prophecies of His prophets of the world leaders at other times. Greece, for instance, was the powerful ram.

Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great Euphrates River, and it dried up so that the kings from the east could march their armies toward the west without hindrance. 13 And I saw three evil[b] spirits that looked like frogs leap from the mouths of the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. 14 They are demonic spirits who work miracles and go out to all the rulers of the world to gather them for battle against the Lord on that great judgment day of God the Almighty.

Now you can see that Babylon the Great Whore is basically dealing with all the kings of the earth, all the world leaders. Now the closest thing that comes to mind is the pacts that the so-called "aliens" are making with the world leaders, especially in europe and america!
You have abductees who are told "oh, we come from zeta reticuli" or "we're from sirius" blah blah blah, but anyone who has been in it, everyone who has seen the up-to-date workings and dealings between the government and "aliens" have all spoke as one voice, saying that they aren't from outer space (and if they were, they got kicked out[of heaven]) but they travel interdimensionally and are stationed IN THE EARTH! Also that they CONSTANTLY LIE - lies like they're nothing...
Amongst the things listed that are Babylon's goods are the "souls of men" - the souls of men! And if we're talking about taking possession through deceit, that's one thing... but aliens have been stealing fetuses, harvesting reproductive fluids, dna, etc etc etc... WHY? To "make sure their race doesn't die"? YEAH, IF GOD WAS OUT TO GET ME AND MY PLANET GOT SMASHED I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT THAT TOO!

I'm not sure as to why they wanted nephilim giants here, unless just to be bullies or sometihng like that, but evidently they're doing it again...
and not all of them are using instruments - if you read up, in fact a lot of them coerce abductees into having sex with them

I'm convinced that they also do not have superior mind powers, as some think, but use a combination of technological aides mixed with hypnosis, domination and intimidation, and neuro linguistic programming.

And you are correct, they are always someone with something down in their lives... When someone's down, they're easily manipulated for wanting, and another pawn on the board can make a queen!

Moral of the story:
there's no reason to trust them, from their shadiness to their lies, to their immoral acts and violations of privacy, murders and "harvesting", and all their illegitimate trade and whoring with our leaders

That is the most interesting part of the OT I think. I have been amazed at how many Christians who are firm believers have not read the bible and those who have are not interested in Ezekiel. They act like they don't believe it's in there. Only heard one "preacher" mention it briefly and that was to answer a question someone sent in. And his answer was that it was an appearance of the Lord to Ezekiel.
I don't think it could be more plain than it is. "Like burning coals" and "whirring wheels," are very descriptive. The human-like figures having wings is interesting.

Why get rid of Satan? It's because of him that we've actually evolved away from him. You don't drive on the right side of the road unless headlights on the left side are coming towards you.

That's it - I'm a heretic. Please pray for me.