I know there are a fair few conspiracy theories out there circulting global warming, like "its just a cycle of the earth".... However, in a long discussion with my dad, I think I have a very vaild theory.
To put simply, global warming doesnt exist...
The reasons for this are simple. As many of us already know the planet is entering kind of fuel crisis as it were, with fossl fuels becoming harder to extract. Now, my theory behind global warming is that it is a clever scare tactic designed to scare civillians into using less (or no) fossil fuels. Now I accept this may not be entirely correct, infact it may not be correct at all, and although this is a conspiracy theory I myself am not a consiparcy theorist. But it does make sense......
I apologise if this has been posted previously or has been heard of before, I haven't heard of this before so I thought I'd post it.
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QUOTE (punish3ment @ Mar 4 2008, 05:33 PM) 
I know there are a fair few conspiracy theories out there circulting global warming, like "its just a cycle of the earth".... However, in a long discussion with my dad, I think I have a very vaild theory.
To put simply, global warming doesnt exist...
The reasons for this are simple. As many of us already know the planet is entering kind of fuel crisis as it were, with fossl fuels becoming harder to extract. Now, my theory behind global warming is that it is a clever scare tactic designed to scare civillians into using less (or no) fossil fuels. Now I accept this may not be entirely correct, infact it may not be correct at all, and although this is a conspiracy theory I myself am not a consiparcy theorist. But it does make sense......
I apologise if this has been posted previously or has been heard of before, I haven't heard of this before so I thought I'd post it.
To put simply, global warming doesnt exist...
The reasons for this are simple. As many of us already know the planet is entering kind of fuel crisis as it were, with fossl fuels becoming harder to extract. Now, my theory behind global warming is that it is a clever scare tactic designed to scare civillians into using less (or no) fossil fuels. Now I accept this may not be entirely correct, infact it may not be correct at all, and although this is a conspiracy theory I myself am not a consiparcy theorist. But it does make sense......
I apologise if this has been posted previously or has been heard of before, I haven't heard of this before so I thought I'd post it.
So... what makes your theory valid? Nobody, on the face of the planet denies that Global Warming is a FACT. No doubt about it. The only "doubt" is whether mankind is accelerating the effect. Now, whilst I am sure that your dad has the best of intentions in placating your fear, it is about time you woke up to the fact that Global Warming is real.
Another point to consider is that we do NOT need fossil fuels, except that is traitorous talk. The technology has been with "us" for decades to remove fossil fuels, unfortunately, the Political Will has not kept pace.
Nothing to do with scare tactics, just understanding that the alternatives are there, but nobody (except Dubai) wants it to happen.
I have a 10 year old daughter and I want my grandchildren to grow up in a responsible world, rid ourselves of the "I can pollute everything, because "mother nature is too big to be affected" attitude, because that is just not true!
Do some investigation, perhaps you can convince your dad that everything is NOT OK with Planet Earth.
If our children wont do it then nobody will... IMO
QUOTE (punish3ment @ Mar 4 2008, 11:33 AM)
I know there are a fair few conspiracy theories out there circulting global warming, like "its just a cycle of the earth".... However, in a long discussion with my dad, I think I have a very vaild theory.
To put simply, global warming doesnt exist...
The reasons for this are simple. As many of us already know the planet is entering kind of fuel crisis as it were, with fossl fuels becoming harder to extract. Now, my theory behind global warming is that it is a clever scare tactic designed to scare civillians into using less (or no) fossil fuels. Now I accept this may not be entirely correct, infact it may not be correct at all, and although this is a conspiracy theory I myself am not a consiparcy theorist. But it does make sense......
I apologise if this has been posted previously or has been heard of before, I haven't heard of this before so I thought I'd post it.
To put simply, global warming doesnt exist...
The reasons for this are simple. As many of us already know the planet is entering kind of fuel crisis as it were, with fossl fuels becoming harder to extract. Now, my theory behind global warming is that it is a clever scare tactic designed to scare civillians into using less (or no) fossil fuels. Now I accept this may not be entirely correct, infact it may not be correct at all, and although this is a conspiracy theory I myself am not a consiparcy theorist. But it does make sense......
I apologise if this has been posted previously or has been heard of before, I haven't heard of this before so I thought I'd post it.
Well, I think you need to understand that there are two aspects of "global warming" that are prevalent. One is real, and has been for eons, the other is a myth.
I believe you are addressing the myth...man-made global warming, which is a very recent hypothetical that has been advanced as theory, and indeed as scientific fact by people who should know better. THAT is in fact a political scam.
I think you're right about it being a scare tactic. That is, and has been the M.O. of certain types of people for almost all of human history in order to produce adherence to a specific dogma, with an eye toward control and power.
In this case, doom-and-gloom, completely unsubstantiated, mind you, is being advanced with the decided purpose of getting people to accept what shall be draconian measures in order to reduce their guilt, and to support a political agenda which favors large government, higher taxation, and reduction in personal freedoms. Power, in other words.
How?
Higher taxation to fund programs to mitigate something that doesn't exist, and which cannot be affected by man at all. More government restrictions on energy industries, restrictions on the very light bulbs you use to light your home (ever see the price on these new fluorescents they're making now to replace the incandescents you currently use?). The list goes on and on.
I think in principal that your idea is correct. However, no one's going to scare anyone out of using less fossil fuel, and certainly not none. The world runs on fossil fuels, and the economy is dependent upon them...the world over.
At the same time, the concentration of humans in small areas has definitely caused a deterioration in LOCAL environs through so many people using these fuels in concentrated areas, and that is a problem that needs to be adressed (not for the planet's sake, and certainly not because we're anywhere close to using up our reserves of fossil fuels...but it is an environmental and health hazard on a local scale (i.e., major cities)).
Oddly enough, the only solution to this problem is to get the environmentalist wackos out of the picture, and to eliminate our dependency on foreign oil. Why? Because that will finally allow the only people who can actually do something about it (the engineers and scientists at the "EVIL" OIL COMPANIES) to stimulate the economy to a huge degree, to earn great profits, to reduce the cost of gasoline, and to INVEST IN THE RESEARCH THAT SO MANY OF THEM AREN'T INVESTING IN AT PRESENT...because, they can't, and won't, given their reasonably skinny profits...profits that are limited by envirnmental wacko influenced government regulations on their industry.
QUOTE (MID @ Mar 4 2008, 10:38 PM)
In this case, doom-and-gloom, completely unsubstantiated
I think that's a bit extreme. You might not agree with the research, but you can't exactly claim it's unsubstantiated.
Some links here (I've tried to avoid articles from sites with a 'green' bias...):
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...ticle516033.ece
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L02862898.htm (Reuters is the source, but I couldn't find the original link)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249659,00.html
I completely agree that it's a myth that mankind are solely to blame for global warming... but I also think research makes it clear that we are accelerating its effects.
In terms of it being a political conspiracy I might agree, if it weren't for the drop in profits to multi-nationals would face should individuals heed warnings to cut energy use.
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The reasons for this are simple. As many of us already know the planet is entering kind of fuel crisis as it were, with fossl fuels becoming harder to extract. Now, my theory behind global warming is that it is a clever scare tactic designed to scare civillians into using less (or no) fossil fuels. Now I accept this may not be entirely correct, infact it may not be correct at all, and although this is a conspiracy theory I myself am not a consiparcy theorist. But it does make sense......
Seems to me like the best Conspiracy out there!
As in, if I suddenly was given a huge amount of evidence to expose it, I'd burn it all up.
Quite the same as saying:
"The whole 'save the environment' thing is a conspiracy to force businesses to respect the environment"
So? That's a good thing, and so is switching to alternative energy.
My physics teacher gave my class a talk on global warming yesterday about what scientists at different colleges are now saying. They are saying the temperature is actually lower now than the average temp. from 1900-2000 and the solar activity of sun is at an all time low. The sun is the deciding factor in all of this, regardless of the carbon dioxide levels, and apparently, according to them, if the sun keeps this activity low, in the next couple decades there could be an "ice age" type result.
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The sun is the deciding factor in all of this, regardless of the carbon dioxide levels, and apparently, according to them, if the sun keeps this activity low, in the next couple decades there could be an "ice age" type result.
no
http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/02...-the-sun-again/
QUOTE (MID @ Mar 4 2008, 11:38 PM)
Well, I think you need to understand that there are two aspects of "global warming" that are prevalent. One is real, and has been for eons, the other is a myth.
I believe you are addressing the myth...man-made global warming, which is a very recent hypothetical that has been advanced as theory, and indeed as scientific fact by people who should know better. THAT is in fact a political scam.
In this case, doom-and-gloom, completely unsubstantiated, mind you, is being advanced with the decided purpose of getting people to accept what shall be draconian measures in order to reduce their guilt, and to support a political agenda which favors large government, higher taxation, and reduction in personal freedoms. Power, in other words.
Oddly enough, the only solution to this problem is to get the environmentalist wackos out of the picture,
I believe you are addressing the myth...man-made global warming, which is a very recent hypothetical that has been advanced as theory, and indeed as scientific fact by people who should know better. THAT is in fact a political scam.
In this case, doom-and-gloom, completely unsubstantiated, mind you, is being advanced with the decided purpose of getting people to accept what shall be draconian measures in order to reduce their guilt, and to support a political agenda which favors large government, higher taxation, and reduction in personal freedoms. Power, in other words.
Oddly enough, the only solution to this problem is to get the environmentalist wackos out of the picture,
That is an exceptionally, unresearched, and misleading post MID.
I suppose then that we should class NASA as being unscientific, environmentalist wackos.... What NASA says
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The Southern Oscillation and the solar cycle have significant effects on year-to-year global temperature change. Because both of these natural effects were in their cool phases in 2007, the unusual warmth of 2007 is all the more notable. It is apparent that there is no letup in the steep global warming trend of the past 30 years (see 5-year mean curve in Figure 1a).
"Global warming stopped in 1998," has become a recent mantra of those who wish to deny the reality of human-caused global warming. The continued rapid increase of the five-year running mean temperature exposes this assertion as nonsense. In reality, global temperature jumped two standard deviations above the trend line in 1998 because the "El Niņo of the century" coincided with the calendar year, but there has been no lessening of the underlying warming trend.
"Global warming stopped in 1998," has become a recent mantra of those who wish to deny the reality of human-caused global warming. The continued rapid increase of the five-year running mean temperature exposes this assertion as nonsense. In reality, global temperature jumped two standard deviations above the trend line in 1998 because the "El Niņo of the century" coincided with the calendar year, but there has been no lessening of the underlying warming trend.
deniers of Man-Made Global warming have had their day.... which gives me hope that their dis-information campaign has also had its day...
Yes, but alas the dis-information is being programmed into them by our corporate media.
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