MarkSteven
Mar 4 2008, 06:33 PM
rather than arguing about what you believe, lets take a look at proving it.
skeptics vs believers
i don't know what ever happened to the thread where the guy was giving out his home location for people to see for them selves what the pictures were, i saw a few people try but didn't seem to identify what the pictures where.
if anything can or could be proven, would you still be a skeptic? if it can not be proven, would you be a believer?
i may not be the right guy to prove anything but i'd like to see who is.
i can tell you what my experiences are but a story is a story, true or not.
where are people talking about their experiences anyhow, many threads have disappeared, hidden under new topics. do the believers give up or are your experiences to personal to share?
i have been developing my abilities, maybe it's time to put them to the test. so far they have been random at best, the times i was about to leave i stopped, other times i was dreaming, going lucid then returning. i know a lot about it, like i've been doing it for years but i have yet to make a full blown attempt.
even if you are a skeptic, whats wrong with believing that anything is possible if you put your mind to it, just like any goal in life. if we don't believe that, then why move onward to new and better things. with every new invention there has been a new idea. a new way to look at our surroundings. Einstein didn't even complete school and look where that got him, was he able to open his eyes to the possibilities that anything is possible or was he hiding behind science. i think he had both, science and belief in the unknown.
analog_warrior
Mar 4 2008, 08:12 PM
I believe there is a difference between a skeptic and one who is skeptical. Such as bigfoot. A skeptic would say that he doesn't exsist. But I am skeptical of him exsisting, yet I do feel he does.
And I also believe that any people don't want to believe in such things, and were raised not to, and fiding out that one thing is possible could mean that things that were just as unlikely are now just as likely and their world would fall apart. So I guess if you believe that anything is possible nothing will come as a big surprise
eight bits
Mar 4 2008, 09:12 PM
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Einstein didn't even complete school and look where that got him,
Poor Al, everybody makes him out to have been a problem child in school.
He was well educated, with an earned doctorate.
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics...nstein-bio.html
Heartagram3200
Mar 4 2008, 09:19 PM
He didn't complete grade school though...
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Mar 4 2008, 09:36 PM
QUOTE (MarkSteven @ Mar 4 2008, 12:33 PM)

rather than arguing about what you believe, lets take a look at proving it.----Oh gosh, please prove it.
skeptics vs believers
i don't know what ever happened to the thread where the guy was giving out his home location for people to see for them selves what the pictures were, i saw a few people try but didn't seem to identify what the pictures where.
if anything can or could be proven, would you still be a skeptic? I would believe what was proven, but I wouldn't become a instant beleive in everything.
if it can not be proven, would you be a believer?
i may not be the right guy to prove anything but i'd like to see who is.
i can tell you what my experiences are but a story is a story, true or not.
where are people talking about their experiences anyhow, many threads have disappeared, hidden under new topics. do the believers give up or are your experiences to personal to share?The believers are full of kaka for the most part and seem to have every excuse under the sky why they can't or won't prove them. Just excuses.
i have been developing my abilities, maybe it's time to put them to the test.-Please do. It would be a refreshing change from the usual BS. If you can't prove them, how will it affect what you believe??
even if you are a skeptic, whats wrong with believing that anything is possible if you put your mind to it, --Because anything is not possible.
Boo ya.
Heartagram3200
Mar 4 2008, 11:32 PM
People don't ever think about how a hundred years ago, the society we live in now, would be a fantasy, with all the new discoveries and technologies we've developed...They don't relize that we accept now, what would have been impossible before...Psi is the same way, it's a new discovery, in a hundred years or two people will start to fully recognze it and use it...
Also, you didn't need to create a "skeptics vs. Believers" thread here...Every thread on here, regardless of the topic, becomes skeptics vs. believers...
eight bits
Mar 5 2008, 12:42 AM
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He didn't complete grade school though...
No, H, he left what was more or less like an American high school, formally on a medical excuse, and studied at home for the entrance exams at the Federal (Swiss) Polytechnic. He failed those, and so he returned to school, a "prep school," from which he graduated.
http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/einstein/section1.html
MarkSteven
Mar 5 2008, 02:39 AM
even so, some knowledge doesn't come from school/college. people will say, they are gifted, that's not enough. there is so much out there that we just don't and may never know about, like the oceans depths to the deepest reaches of space. but here we sit, worrying about if we believe that something is possible or not lol.
Future
Mar 5 2008, 03:02 AM
I personally tend to stay a skeptic till I experience something significant on my own. Sure in my past when my mental state was a quite a bit less stable it was easy to believe in any paranormal thing under the sun. Now I am trying to grasp the significance of experiences I have had that are not quite in line with my beliefs in natural science.
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