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Broeckx
CANADA: Cloaked Area - Google Earth - Northwest Corner Hudson's Bay
Co-ordinates:
N64*55'
W87*54

A bit of a heads up, as to why the cloaked area concerns me:
You may, or may not know, about the 74, CIA, related flights into Canada from the
USA.

It is important to know is, that most of these flights were made in aircraft which are
suited to short range, bush-flying situations, yet the explanation about those flights,
says, that the Aircraft were in route to Afghanistan, or Iraq, and were (it is said)
transporting suspected terrorist. One of the Aircraft a DHC - 6 - 300 was traced to
have visited Iceland and had a picture taken of it in the Middle East as well. The US
identification on that aircraft is N6161Q. However; I can find no record of the other
73 flights, which would indicate, that they ever left Canada via the Northern corridor.
The question then is, where did these un-traced flights terminate?...

The Cloaked Area at the above co-ordinates, is well within the range of any one of
the aircraft used to conduct the 73 admitted to, but un-traced flights. There are
several known airports in Northern Canada, but there is no record of the CIA
planes having visited them, so where did they go?.

This is the only cloaked area I've found on Canadian soil, it is unexplained and I've
received no response to any of my queries. It is my feeling, that something is
definitely being hidden beneath the air-brushed cloak... My concern is this; just as
there is an off-shore US prison at Guantonimo Bay, Cuba, that seems not to be
kept a secret,.... there may well be another one, which is being kept totally under
wraps, up there in the sparsely settled tundra, far from the prying eyes of the
travelled South.

I add this, out of all the people I've contacted about the Cloaked Area, none have
ever gotten back to me. I've tried to post my information on several sites, only to
have the post halted by a message saying 'the sight no longer being available on line'.
This site, is a final attempt....

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1.618
There are cloaked places in saudi and china too.
GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
I wonder, they have cloaked an unknown piece of land in canada, but not any other military places, like the pentagon and area 51? I wonder why?

Thanks GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN

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jaylemurph
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Mar 7 2008, 06:32 PM) *
I wonder, they have cloaked an unknown piece of land in canada, but not any other military places, like the pentagon and area 51? I wonder why?

Thanks GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN

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That sort of practical, logical, non-paranoiac thinking will win you no friends amongst the CTers.

--Jaylemurph
GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 7 2008, 11:36 PM) *
That sort of practical, logical, non-paranoiac thinking will win you no friends amongst the CTers.

--Jaylemurph


Excuse me?huh.gif blink.gif Wot the hell are you talking about, all i said was i wonder what was going on there. Also, your attitude towards people is going to cause arguments with you real easily, concentrate on the topic, not quick jibes.

Thanks GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
FairyJosie24
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 7 2008, 03:36 PM) *
That sort of practical, logical, non-paranoiac thinking will win you no friends amongst the CTers.

--Jaylemurph



QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Mar 7 2008, 03:51 PM) *
Excuse me?huh.gif blink.gif Wot the hell are you talking about, all i said was i wonder what was going on there. Also, your attitude towards people is going to cause arguments with you real easily, concentrate on the topic, not quick jibes.

Thanks GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN


Gunnary, I believe Jayle's comment was made sarcastically, and was meant to actually agree with what you were saying..... That's the way I read it, at least. wink2.gif
Atheist God
It's not cloaked they are just low resolution areas because as it turns out there isn't a lot of interest in location not heavily populated.

I have asked Google about such anomolies before and this was the response I got back in the past. There is no reason to suspect otherwise and everything else is pure speculation.
Kevin A.
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Mar 7 2008, 07:07 PM) *
It's not cloaked they are just low resolution areas because as it turns out there isn't a lot of interest in location not heavily populated.

I have asked Google about such anomolies before and this was the response I got back in the past. There is no reason to suspect otherwise and everything else is pure speculation.


Now this makes sense. The CT really does not.

Think about this for a second. If there really was some huge government cover up, wouldn't it make more sense to Photoshop some trees and crap in place of the big blurry area? Why leave something so obvious on Google Earth, a software scoured by everyone looking for little "Easter eggs".

"Golly gee Sarge, if we leave it just one big blurry spot they will never know whats there. Surely no one would actually take the oppurtunity and travel to the big blurry spot to see if anything is really there."

"Sound idea Gomer. Lets go with that"

Kevin A.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (FairyJosie23 @ Mar 7 2008, 07:00 PM) *
Gunnary, I believe Jayle's comment was made sarcastically, and was meant to actually agree with what you were saying..... That's the way I read it, at least. wink2.gif


Quite right. Still, if someone with 36 posts knows better than I how to get by here, he should (by all means) impart his wisdom.

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--Jaylemurph
Broeckx
QUOTE (1.618 @ Mar 7 2008, 11:22 PM) *
There are cloaked places in saudi and china too.


What is common to "saudi and china" is not common in Canada, this is Canada... did you get beyond the title???
Broeckx
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Mar 7 2008, 11:32 PM) *
I wonder, they have cloaked an unknown piece of land in canada, but not any other military places, like the pentagon and area 51? I wonder why?

Thanks GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN

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Yep it's true.... I've visited those places on Google Earth, but I'm not concerned with what is not hidden in the US of A, my interest is in where the 73 CIA flights into Canada, actually terminated..... since our known airports seem not to have logged landing information for them.
Broeckx
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Mar 8 2008, 12:07 AM) *
It's not cloaked they are just low resolution areas because as it turns out there isn't a lot of interest in location not heavily populated.

I have asked Google about such anomolies before and this was the response I got back in the past. There is no reason to suspect otherwise and everything else is pure speculation.



First, the Canada site is not simply an area of low resolution, a careful inspection, will reveal, that the area in question has been 'Air-brushed" as there are three(3) sides, which show the signs of having been masked off before painting, one side has not been masked. Being a Commercial Pilot with bush flying experience, Maps... and mapping practices are fairly common in my life. And for a fact, during the Cold War era, there were areas in the North of Canada, to which we (pilots) were restricted access at risk of being intercepted by Defense aircraft, that day is over now, but there were secret bases up there then,
one was in the area of the cloak being discussed here.

For the sake of clearity, it is good to understand, that the Google Earth interactive maps are not live images, many are months old and most are a year, or more old... which makes "airbrush" work (for whatever reason) a workable means of blotting out that which may not be explainable. There is no way to conceal, that which is generally well known to exist, such as the Pentagon, or Area 51, so why attempt to do so... However; that which is not generally known to the public is able to be concealed, so long as no one runs into strange stuff, asks questions... or seeks answers. I seek answers, which are based on research, not no personal opinion.... everybody has an opinion, but few research before arriving there.

Also, I've attempted to contact Google Earth, but have so far, been unable to do so, as there seems to be no method on their site, which allows the general population that ability.
747400
Actually, they can 'camouflage' military installations by pixellation, like this one, Den Helder harbour in the Netherlands, where there's a big naval base. You can see how the area on the right has been pixellated. Presumably they can do this at the request of governments if they're asked nicely. It doesn't necessarily mean anything conspiratorial, though, and that Canadian one just looks like it wasn't worthwhile zooming in to high res because there wasn't much there.
Broeckx
QUOTE (Kevin A. @ Mar 8 2008, 12:34 AM) *
Now this makes sense. The CT really does not.

Think about this for a second. If there really was some huge government cover up, wouldn't it make more sense to Photoshop some trees and crap in place of the big blurry area? Why leave something so obvious on Google Earth, a software scoured by everyone looking for little "Easter eggs".

"Golly gee Sarge, if we leave it just one big blurry spot they will never know whats there. Surely no one would actually take the oppurtunity and travel to the big blurry spot to see if anything is really there."

"Sound idea Gomer. Lets go with that"

Kevin A.



Have you thought, that maybe Google didn't want to hide the area, that maybe it takes it's mapping seriously and where there are inacuracies, wants them to be unmistakeable. You see, bush pilots, still use maps and visual land marks as a means of getting to and from remote locations, some will certainly download Google's Satilite Images as a navigation aid, missing, or added, lakes, rock formations, escars, etc. in that country could prove dangerous, so
they use the "airbrush".... it may not please the folks who said; "don't show the area"... but at least it won't misdirect the map reader.
Broeckx
QUOTE (747400 @ Mar 8 2008, 08:35 AM) *
Actually, they can 'camouflage' military installations by pixellation, like this one, Den Helder harbour in the Netherlands, where there's a big naval base. You can see how the area on the right has been pixellated. Presumably they can do this at the request of governments if they're asked nicely. It doesn't necessarily mean anything conspiratorial, though, and that Canadian one just looks like it wasn't worthwhile zooming in to high res because there wasn't much there.




Yes! I've seen many such pixellated sensetive zones especially in highly populated Europe. However, none of the area surounding the Canadian anomolly is in high resolution, therefore; it would be an added effort to hide the area than to simply leave it in low resolution... It is "airbrushed" that is clearly visible.
SkylarYoung
Here is another one in Canada. 66 15'50.78 N 108 12'12.18 W. Its a small black area.
Jim Riociociocioso Harbis
very interesting. i have google earth and i will play with it later
Thanato
BLAST! You found our cloaking Generators!

~Thanato
ships-cat
This whole area is riddled with digital anomolies. Just take a look at nearby White Island (you may need to zoom out a bit)...

If this is deliberate airbrushing, then it has been done with the subttelty and care of a deranged octopus on a major coffee jag. My bet is data errors.

Meow Purr.
frenat
I'm betting on data errors or problems with the camera on the plane too.

Even if there were some secret base, it wouldn't be secret from any other coutry that had satellite technology. It also wouldn't be secret from anyone that wanted to pay for private satellite images. I really doubt pilots use Google Earth pictures for navigation. That's what navigational charts are for. Charts also show useful info like magnetic deviation, airspaces, approach paths, and tall obstacles like radio towers and landmasses. None of that info is found on Google Earth.

has the OP tried looking at this area or others he may be concerned about on other Earth mapping websites? Google Earth is well known but far from the only one available.
Broeckx
QUOTE (frenat @ Mar 8 2008, 09:38 PM) *
I'm betting on data errors or problems with the camera on the plane too.

Even if there were some secret base, it wouldn't be secret from any other coutry that had satellite technology. It also wouldn't be secret from anyone that wanted to pay for private satellite images. I really doubt pilots use Google Earth pictures for navigation. That's what navigational charts are for. Charts also show useful info like magnetic deviation, airspaces, approach paths, and tall obstacles like radio towers and landmasses. None of that info is found on Google Earth.

has the OP tried looking at this area or others he may be concerned about on other Earth mapping websites? Google Earth is well known but far from the only one available.



The posted image is from Satelite so Plane Camera is a no go...

I am a pilot... and I have found, that in the bush (bush flying) a satelite image is superior to even an aironautical chart, as they can be printed out on 8.5 x 11 pages, stackable in a ring binder, easy to access, use, and replace, for pennies a sheet.... Further, in the North, I've watched the compass change 180 degrees, several times in just a few miles, thus magnetic deviation as found on Av Charts is useless.... land marks never change. The rest of the Chart info, is good only on airports equipped with those services... lakes, open water, or ice strips, are not, so equipped... so once more, the satelite image is superior to the Av Chart.

Could you offer me a link, to other (interactive) Earth mapping website(s)?...

Broeckx
QUOTE (SkylarYoung @ Mar 8 2008, 04:00 PM) *
Here is another one in Canada. 66 15'50.78 N 108 12'12.18 W. Its a small black area.



Thanks I'll check it out and get back...
Broeckx
QUOTE (Broeckx @ Mar 9 2008, 04:26 AM) *
Thanks I'll check it out and get back...



I'm back, the blacked out area, at the location you provided, is very near (if not exactly) the location of a no fly zone on maps marked out on Av Charts of the cold war, Distant Early Warning (D.E.W. Line) - Canadian Air Defense Identification Zone (C.A.D.I. Z) period. There were a couple strategic U.S. Military Airodromes, up there.... maybe still is.

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frenat
QUOTE (Broeckx @ Mar 8 2008, 10:23 PM) *
Could you offer me a link, to other (interactive) Earth mapping website(s)?...

I should do your own work for you why? Do Google searches not work for you?
SkylarYoung
51°45'23.05"N 121°26'4.10"W is another area that is blacked out. it is near an area that is populated near Lac La Hache and Tatton. There is a mine in the area, so I wonder if it is blocked at the request of a corporation?


As with the the one i posted previously I think that a diamond mine is in that area.
Rolci
this first picture of this blacked out area up in the north and its surroundings seems to potentially confirm a crazy idea of mine that i've had for a while. You seen Minority Report? When they use these 3 psychic women in the future in the police to prevent crimes before they actually take place. Now what if...? What if all humans possess so-called psychic abilities, they are just suppressed by some "super-psychics", whose job is to create a dampening field around the earth to block or at least weaken the manifestation of our abilities, so we are more easily managable. Imagine a 6-billion mass of supermen! grin2.gif Looking at this picture and the area around it reminds me of a giant magnet and the lines of force around it, the magnet (or a transformator, who knows??) big enough (looks like 20 km long) to enhance the strength of the output signals, but not too big to be able to be picked up by ppls compasses. There don't seem to be too many settlements around that sort of area anyway, i'd imagine. At least I can't see any, even on conventional maps. Anyone in canada reading this? Why don't you take a trip there and find out for us? original.gif Anyway, it's definitely not a low-res area, all the area around it is the lowest res that you normally get on g. e. already. It's definitely blacked out. Not a very good job tho, you can see the top. A giant rectangular thing, and black. Just like a magnet could be. original.gif What eveeeeeeer grin2.gif
Broeckx
QUOTE (frenat @ Mar 9 2008, 06:44 AM) *
I should do your own work for you why? Do Google searches not work for you?




The reason I offered you the opportunity to send me a link to the mapping sites you claim to know about, is that Google Earth is the only one I've been able to locate. I wasn't asking you to do my work for me, I was simply giving you the chance to prove that you had actually found such sites. Don't do me any favours... Please!!!!
Broeckx
QUOTE (Rolci @ Mar 9 2008, 05:08 PM) *
this first picture of this blacked out area up in the north and its surroundings seems to potentially confirm a crazy idea of mine that i've had for a while. You seen Minority Report? When they use these 3 psychic women in the future in the police to prevent crimes before they actually take place. Now what if...? What if all humans possess so-called psychic abilities, they are just suppressed by some "super-psychics", whose job is to create a dampening field around the earth to block or at least weaken the manifestation of our abilities, so we are more easily managable. Imagine a 6-billion mass of supermen! grin2.gif Looking at this picture and the area around it reminds me of a giant magnet and the lines of force around it, the magnet (or a transformator, who knows??) big enough (looks like 20 km long) to enhance the strength of the output signals, but not too big to be able to be picked up by ppls compasses. There don't seem to be too many settlements around that sort of area anyway, i'd imagine. At least I can't see any, even on conventional maps. Anyone in canada reading this? Why don't you take a trip there and find out for us? original.gif Anyway, it's definitely not a low-res area, all the area around it is the lowest res that you normally get on g. e. already. It's definitely blacked out. Not a very good job tho, you can see the top. A giant rectangular thing, and black. Just like a magnet could be. original.gif What eveeeeeeer grin2.gif



Well 'Rolci', I've been to that area, but it was 30 or more years ago now, at that time there was a NORAD site near there, but what is there today, I have no idea. I'm in Souther BC, so it's about 1400, or so, miles North from here, and no roads go within 300 miles of the site, so it would be hard for any ordinary person to just go take a look. From your writing, I would think you must have read some of Tesla's theories, eh!
Broeckx
QUOTE (SkylarYoung @ Mar 9 2008, 07:06 AM) *
51°45'23.05"N 121°26'4.10"W is another area that is blacked out. it is near an area that is populated near Lac La Hache and Tatton. There is a mine in the area, so I wonder if it is blocked at the request of a corporation?


As with the the one i posted previously I think that a diamond mine is in that area.



'SkylarYoung' The Jericho Mine, which is located 350 kilometers southwest of Cambridge Bay @ N69*06' 01.34" x W105* 15' 48.41" the area is semi-high resolution and is not cloacked. I will check out the Lac La Hache location as I am quite familiar with the area. I am an experienced bushman and have walked much of Caribou over the years.
frenat
QUOTE (Broeckx @ Mar 9 2008, 03:54 PM) *
The reason I offered you the opportunity to send me a link to the mapping sites you claim to know about, is that Google Earth is the only one I've been able to locate. I wasn't asking you to do my work for me, I was simply giving you the chance to prove that you had actually found such sites. Don't do me any favours... Please!!!!

A simple search with the terms "satellite maps" brings up Google Earth and 4 others on the first page alone. If you can't find something that obvious then you probably haven't even looked. I think you're more interested in proving (which you haven't) that simple data errors are somehow some big coverup.
Broeckx
QUOTE (frenat @ Mar 10 2008, 12:14 AM) *
A simple search with the terms "satellite maps" brings up Google Earth and 4 others on the first page alone. If you can't find something that obvious then you probably haven't even looked. I think you're more interested in proving (which you haven't) that simple data errors are somehow some big coverup.



Why so grumpy?... Is this (never meet face to face place) the only place you are able to attemt to intimidate people without fear?... If you are as competant as you are opinionated, then perhaps, you are able "prove" that the anomolies you lable "data errors" are what you claim they are... I've noticed nothing out of you so far, that is other than uniformed speculation. And you.... are the only one so far who has brought up the word "coverup",
My interest is in knowing what Uncle Sam may be doing in my backyard, that he cannot legally do in his own, does that upset you?...
frenat
QUOTE (Broeckx @ Mar 9 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Why so grumpy?... Is this (never meet face to face place) the only place you are able to attemt to intimidate people without fear?... If you are as competant as you are opinionated, then perhaps, you are able "prove" that the anomolies you lable "data errors" are what you claim they are... I've noticed nothing out of you so far, that is other than uniformed speculation. And you.... are the only one so far who has brought up the word "coverup",
My interest is in knowing what Uncle Sam may be doing in my backyard, that he cannot legally do in his own, does that upset you?...

Grumpy? Why are you assuming I'm grumpy? Because you're not getting the results out of me that you've given me no incentive to provide? Intimidate? Hardly. I've no reason to intimidate someone who is paranoid enough to form a ct around a blurry area in an picture of an unpopulated area that likely noone cares about anyway. You are lazy and expect others to do your work for you. You haven't even looked at the multiple other sources for images of the area before making the assumption that the US governement might be doing something there. Lazy and huge leaps of logic. Through all of your posts, the only thing you've shown about the areas that are blurred/blacked out are that those areas are blurred/blacked out. Nothing more. Your perceived level of paranoia is actually quite funny.
Broeckx
QUOTE (frenat @ Mar 10 2008, 03:37 AM) *
Grumpy? Why are you assuming I'm grumpy? Because you're not getting the results out of me that you've given me no incentive to provide? Intimidate? Hardly. I've no reason to intimidate someone who is paranoid enough to form a ct around a blurry area in an picture of an unpopulated area that likely noone cares about anyway. You are lazy and expect others to do your work for you. You haven't even looked at the multiple other sources for images of the area before making the assumption that the US governement might be doing something there. Lazy and huge leaps of logic. Through all of your posts, the only thing you've shown about the areas that are blurred/blacked out are that those areas are blurred/blacked out. Nothing more. Your perceived level of paranoia is actually quite funny.



Dear 'frenat',
1. I am in no way paranoid about anything... to be paranoid you must be fearful of that which is the unknown quantity... blanked out areas on maps, or photograph, are simply areas in which the terrain is not visible.... what's to be feared?... nothing!!
2. I am a thoughtful type and if I had the opporunity to assist someone (anyone) by sharing information (links or otherwise) I would be overjoyed to do so. Certainly, on the basis of a single request, I would not accuse the person of being to lazy to do the search themselves. I wouldn't do it, because to demonstrate such behaviour, would indicate a huge LACK of social skills.
3. No one, that I am aware of, ever solicited you, for your participation in the subject at hand, therefore; I respectfully request, that if you have nothing possitive to offer (say an explanation from a Google Earth expert) then butt out and let the rest of us enjoy a bit of peace. Ride your bike, or something, okay!!! Broeckx
frenat
Ah, more humor from Broeckx. Dictionary.com lists 9 results for paranoia and not a single one comes close to a "fear of the unknown".
They do mention this "a type of mental illness in which a person has fixed and unreasonable ideas that he is very important, or that other people are being unfair or unfriendly to him" or "baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others." Yeah, both those fit. Your very first post tried to connect a "cloaked area" (a highly common occurence on Google Earth and other satellite maps in low population areas) to some CIA flights with no more evidence than it should be in range.
Other satellite mapping sites were mentioned. Your first response is you couldn't find any others. A simple Google search brings up multiple others on the first page alone which proves you didn't even look hard (if you even looked at all) proving you would rather someone just hand you the info instead of doing it yourself. Almost the very definition of lazy.
As for offering something positive, I've offered both my opinion that it is a simple data error or something similar, an opinion shared by others on this thread, and alerted you to the existence of other mapping sites (which apparently you were unable to find because normal internet searches don't work for you)
What kind of social skills or lack thereof does it show for someone to accuse another of incompetance, and intimidation simple because they don't post the way you want and find you funny?

Edit: Whether you believe so or not, I have contributed positively. However, it is increasingly obvious that neither of us will convince the other of their viewpoint. How about we just agree to disagree?
Broeckx
QUOTE (frenat @ Mar 11 2008, 12:17 AM) *
Ah, more humor from Broeckx. Dictionary.com lists 9 results for paranoia and not a single one comes close to a "fear of the unknown".
They do mention this "a type of mental illness in which a person has fixed and unreasonable ideas that he is very important, or that other people are being unfair or unfriendly to him" or "baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others." Yeah, both those fit. Your very first post tried to connect a "cloaked area" (a highly common occurence on Google Earth and other satellite maps in low population areas) to some CIA flights with no more evidence than it should be in range.
Other satellite mapping sites were mentioned. Your first response is you couldn't find any others. A simple Google search brings up multiple others on the first page alone which proves you didn't even look hard (if you even looked at all) proving you would rather someone just hand you the info instead of doing it yourself. Almost the very definition of lazy.
As for offering something positive, I've offered both my opinion that it is a simple data error or something similar, an opinion shared by others on this thread, and alerted you to the existence of other mapping sites (which apparently you were unable to find because normal internet searches don't work for you)
What kind of social skills or lack thereof does it show for someone to accuse another of incompetance, and intimidation simple because they don't post the way you want and find you funny?

Edit: Whether you believe so or not, I have contributed positively. However, it is increasingly obvious that neither of us will convince the other of their viewpoint. How about we just agree to disagree?


It distresses me, that you preffer disagreement as the sole means of concluding a differences of opinion on this forum. Please tell me, why my post to the "Unexplained-Mysteries Forum" is without merrit?... Consider, the Aircraft Ident included there.... it is factual, searchable and turns up pages of evidence, which fully support the FACT, that the CIA (a U.S. Government Agency) well known for it's clandestine operation, both at home and abroad, have been conducting flights into Canada's North. Seventy Four (74) flights are known to have been undertaken, only a few of those flights ever arrived at their supposed destination in the Middle East. All would have been required, to land at Iceland for fuel... only one or two did that... which means, that rest did not go accross the Atlantic, and since they do not show up on the known airports in Northern Canada, there is only one conclussion which can be drawn.
There has to be an airport, with all of the facilities required by those aircraft, which is not listed among Canada's registered airdromes. The 'airbrushed' area, which I posted, and the 'black' area, I was advised about, are the only areas in Northern Canada, beneath which the surface terrain is not visible and are large enough to conceal something as large as an Airodrome... the rest of the surface and only registered airports exist there. So, those Aircraft (known to serve the CIA) had to go somewhere... if they did not land at the registered airports, what other conclussion is left, but to suspect, that they must have gone somewhere, that is not visible.

Now! if you wish to go on calling that logically supported suspicion, unsuportable in your opinion, then pray tell, where did those aircraft go, between when the crossed the Canadian border North bound and when they crossed the border South bound, days later???? Were this table to be turned the other way around.... would you not be concerned?.... Being a commercial pilot myself, I am well aware of how much desolation is in our North. I'm also well aware of having been intercepted on two occaissions, by U.S. fighter aircraft in the Canadian north, both times, those interceptions took place, far beyond the point of return, of those fighters, to a U.S. base. My question is, are one, or two, of those bases, somehow (intergovermental cooperation - Homeland Security) still in operation?.. Who the hell knows these days!!!! Uncle sam has his finger in a lot of pies, many where he is unwelcome and uninvited... so to suspect possible infiltration into Canada's pie, would no big stretch is it, would it?.. Is that paranoia?... Why can it not be "unexplained-Misteries", with possible conspiritorial leanings, for which I am seeking answers?.. Please, if you wish to prove me wrong, that is fine.... but first, I would ask, that you search "74 CIA Flights Canada" and check the results....


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