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norwood1026
What is it that you don't like about your faith? I don't want this to turn into a what would you change about your faith thread.

Taking your religion at face vaule what is it that you can not stand about your faith?
sede-x-teh-bomb
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Mar 9 2008, 02:48 PM) *
What is it that you don't like about your faith? I don't want this to turn into a what would you change about your faith thread.

Taking your religion at face vaule what is it that you can not stand about your faith?


There is no happy ending. sad.gif
Watchful
by norwood1026:
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What is it that you don't like about your faith? I don't want this to turn into a what would you change about your faith thread.

Taking your religion at face vaule what is it that you can not stand about your faith?


You know, as a chosen unorthodox religion, I wouldn't think there would be something that I really didn't like about it. But then I remember my thoughts on plenty of occasions, and there is something I do wish. I wish that there was more direction in my beliefs. I'm secular, and I'm New Ager, but that is very broad. It is great, in my opinion, because it's not rigid. Also, there is no comparison, considering I'm the only one that I know of, believing in it. Yet, I sometimes wish for organized holidays, and traditions, and rituals. I guess to make it more official. It's a little petty thing with me, but now that you brought up the topic, I thought I would share. grin2.gif



Cradle of Fish
I wont be able to fly around the universe for eternity as some kind of space ghost.
Lt_Ripley
since my faith is my own ..... it fits and grows as I do. what I may not like is having all the answers now !
sandee
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Mar 9 2008, 09:48 AM) *
What is it that you don't like about your faith? I don't want this to turn into a what would you change about your faith thread.

Taking your religion at face vaule what is it that you can not stand about your faith?


I am not really sure if this falls under dislike of Christianity or just a general dislike.
I do not like the fact that christian is required to look and act a certain way. To me it is not how you dress or yes what you drive or where you work or any of those things, Your relationship with God is of a personal nature and while I do love to tell people How good God is to me I don't feel I should be judged as to how "christian I am" by anyone but God himself. Everyone acts and dresses differently so why should that be any different in Christianity? My actions and personality will back up my claim to be a "'true christian"" and well if someone disagrees with that I frankly don't care because the only one who does need convincing is God and as he knows my true intentions and whats in my heart thats all that matters. It is just so annoying that some people think if you don't do or say what they are convinced is a true christian then you must not be a true christian.
I really get annoyed at those who claim the bible is just non sense and then turn around and use the scriptures of the bible to tell me how I am ""supposed "" to act to be a christian.
I don't really dislike anything about Christianity other than this if it does even fall in that category other than the bad name Christianity gets from actions of lone individuals who clam to be christian and do mean and evil things in the name of Christianity.
I think that would include the long ago history of people doing evil in the name of Christianity.
Always a pleasure Norwood
randomhit10
the way some followers fall out and disappears when someone truly needs help.....

randomhit10
norwood1026
From my personal experience, I have found all religions seem to differ in what path is right. The Jewish people do not agree with the Christians the Christians do not agree with the Catholics, etc. Same with Paganism we all have so many ways of worshiping out Gods that we sometimes want to think ours is the only way.


I think my biggest pet peeve with other Pagans is I still do not see a lot of them standing up for their rights. It has got a lot better over the past 10 years or so but not where it should be. I know change takes time but I am impatience I guess & would like to see more involvement from the Pagan community.
Darkwind
Pagan standard time, nobody shows up on time for rituals. High priests/esses who think their way is the only way. People who think Wicca is the oldest religion in the world and don't know who Gerald Gardner is. Wiccan pedigrees. People who read one book on Druidry or witchcraft and think they are Druids or Witches. People who don't read books and only study their path on the internet and think that is enough. People who use Pagan religions for their own gain.
REBEL
Growing up as a Catholic & never truly understanding what it all meant pissed me off.
I'd ask simple straight forward questions & all i got was confusing quotes from the Good Book, like they were using it as an excuse because they had no answers yet the Good Book had them all so dont question it or else. More importantly the 'amount of hypocrites' that used the Sunday Mass/Church in general 'as a cover for what they where really all about'...hmmm...
swtp
For me my faith isn't the problem! I just wish that some people who call themselves Christians would quit pointing the finger at, and telling everyone thatthey don,t agree with they are going to hell! Thats not something they could possibly know, nor do they have the right to say it! Mabey they should remember where scriture says God wants people to come to him of their own free will! If God gives everyone the right to choose, then who are they to try and take that right away rom everyone else?!
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (sandee @ Mar 9 2008, 10:43 PM) *
I am not really sure if this falls under dislike of Christianity or just a general dislike.
I do not like the fact that christian is required to look and act a certain way. To me it is not how you dress or yes what you drive or where you work or any of those things, Your relationship with God is of a personal nature and while I do love to tell people How good God is to me I don't feel I should be judged as to how "christian I am" by anyone but God himself. Everyone acts and dresses differently so why should that be any different in Christianity? My actions and personality will back up my claim to be a "'true christian"" and well if someone disagrees with that I frankly don't care because the only one who does need convincing is God and as he knows my true intentions and whats in my heart thats all that matters. It is just so annoying that some people think if you don't do or say what they are convinced is a true christian then you must not be a true christian. I really get annoyed at those who claim the bible is just non sense and then turn around and use the scriptures of the bible to tell me how I am ""supposed "" to act to be a christian.
I don't really dislike anything about Christianity other than this if it does even fall in that category other than the bad name Christianity gets from actions of lone individuals who clam to be christian and do mean and evil things in the name of Christianity.
I think that would include the long ago history of people doing evil in the name of Christianity.
Always a pleasure Norwood


lol most of the time it's christians I see saying this --- if a christian commits some horrible crime again and again I'll see other christians reply , including you , well they weren't real christians. a real christian could never........
sandee
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Mar 10 2008, 06:25 PM) *
lol most of the time it's christians I see saying this --- if a christian commits some horrible crime again and again I'll see other christians reply , including you , well they weren't real christians. a real christian could never........



Well maybe my remarks were mistaken but regardless call it a lesson learned, I nor does anyone else have the right to judge another christian or anyone for that matter! I have no way of knowing what is in anyone Else's heart but my own. If someone who calls themselves a christian does or says something we disagree with that does not necessarily mean they are not a christian only God knows for sure.
I read and study the bible whenever I can and I learn more everyday so I am more knowledgeable today than yesterday (about the bible anyway), now some people do not believe the bible is the word of God but yet they choose to recite the bible when its convenient for them in some way. I believe the Bible to be God's word and treat it as such.
I will continue to learn and I am sure I will make some mistakes along the way but hey no one is perfect right?
Except God and His Son Jesus Christ of course!
Always a pleasure
Lt_Ripley
I think you'll find Jesus wasn't 'perfect'.

like the money changers he lost his temper with. a perfect being would have handled it better.

here are some examples -

http://www.island.net/~rjbw/opinions2.html
sandee
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Mar 10 2008, 09:43 PM) *
I think you'll find Jesus wasn't 'perfect'.

like the money changers he lost his temper with. a perfect being would have handled it better.

here are some examples -

http://www.island.net/~rjbw/opinions2.html


But was Jesus justified in his actions I mean they were turning the church into a shopping palace.
Always a pleasure
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (sandee @ Mar 10 2008, 11:55 PM) *
But was Jesus justified in his actions I mean they were turning the church into a shopping palace.
Always a pleasure


a perfect person would have handled it differently. Instead of flying off the handle with ones temper.
churchanddestroy
QUOTE (swtp @ Mar 10 2008, 05:23 PM) *
For me my faith isn't the problem! I just wish that some people who call themselves Christians would quit pointing the finger at, and telling everyone thatthey don,t agree with they are going to hell! Thats not something they could possibly know, nor do they have the right to say it! Mabey they should remember where scriture says God wants people to come to him of their own free will! If God gives everyone the right to choose, then who are they to try and take that right away rom everyone else?!

My God... this has to be the most intelligent post I have ever seen on UM. My hats off to you thumbsup.gif
Xori
What can I not stand about my religion? Its not really a hard question for me...I am a dedicated Wiccan and I believe in all the values and morals that come with it, I participate in practices and often meditate but I refuse the belief of the God and the Goddess. I personally cannot accept that there is an ultimate being that created our lives.
* Wishful~Thinking *
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Mar 9 2008, 10:48 AM) *
What is it that you don't like about your faith? I don't want this to turn into a what would you change about your faith thread.

Taking your religion at face vaule what is it that you can not stand about your faith?


I'm not settled with any particular religion right now (yet again) but I would have to say that the thing that I don't like about my faith is not knowing exactly what to believe in.
But then again, to believe in something one cannot see is based purely on faith alone. Right?
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Mr Walker
That it says judge not, and yet so many "believers" waste so much time judging others for everything from their clothes to the music they like . We are responsible for living our own lives only (and perhaps for our children if we have any) tThis does not mean that there are not clearly things which are right or wrong, but even with these it is not our place to judge. Only god has that ability and authority, because only he has the knowledge base upon which to accurately make judgements.
Watchful
QUOTE (churchanddestroy @ Mar 11 2008, 01:25 AM) *
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by SWTP:
For me my faith isn't the problem! I just wish that some people who call themselves Christians would quit pointing the finger at, and telling everyone thatthey don,t agree with they are going to hell! Thats not something they could possibly know, nor do they have the right to say it! Mabey they should remember where scriture says God wants people to come to him of their own free will! If God gives everyone the right to choose, then who are they to try and take that right away rom everyone else?!

My God... this has to be the most intelligent post I have ever seen on UM. My hats off to you thumbsup.gif

My feelings exactly! I was thinking how SWTP's post pretty much expressed how I always felt and wanted to say, but didn't know how to use what words to say it. SWTP did it for me, thank you Sweetie. wub.gif


by norwood1026:
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that we sometimes want to think ours is the only way.

I think, and that is just me, but I think if we all just feel that our belief the only way for ourselves and that we also think that someone else's belief is their only way for themselves, I think that we all would be better. No prosetylizing, just knowing that we in our own way, have a belief that helps our ownselves. That's just me, although. *wink*




Lt_Ripley
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that we sometimes want to think ours is the only way.


I think people do this out of fear really. The fear that they may be wrong. Because how could a belief that is totally different than theirs is ok by God ? It somehow makes them angry. All the time studying their brand of belief to find out someone who never worshiped God nor believed in any deity , saviour , rule or tradition is just as well come in 'heaven' without having to repent , bow down , or some other action. That someone who isn't like minded has as much right to God and that God gives them as much right ...........has humanly got to sting a bit because we are selfish greedy children.

No one is 'mom/dad's' favorite. and that's a hard pill to swallow.

But it's the only thing an all knowing perfect loving God would do really. Just like any parent - doesn't play favorites and wouldn't accept only one siblings way of loving aka faith.
mariposa1
QUOTE (norwood1026 @ Mar 9 2008, 09:48 AM) *
What is it that you don't like about your faith? I don't want this to turn into a what would you change about your faith thread.

Taking your religion at face vaule what is it that you can not stand about your faith?


norwood1026,

I am a Spiritualist. There are really no limitations, unless you turn your face away from the Light of the Creator and His/Her Laws and Natural Laws. No soul is closed off from reclamation. There is nothing about it that I don't like. God is what Divinity is meant to be Infinite Intelligence, Love, Light. No negative human attributes, envy, anger, retribution etc. "Where there is Light there can be no Darkness". "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Mariposa1 grin2.gif
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