Saru
Apr 28 2001, 06:00 PM
What do you think best explains the UFO phenomenon ? To take part in this forum poll, simply reply to this post, and state which of these things best explains UFOs.
What best explains UFO's ?
- Aliens from space without a doubt
- Military test craft without a doubt
- Some UFO's are alien, some are test craft
- UFO's are evidence of human time travel
- UFO's are neither Alien or test craft
- UFO's Don't Exist
Please feel free to expand on/explain your choice as well if you like, all input welcome.
Lori Cordini
Apr 30 2001, 02:05 AM
UFOs - traveling devices of our brothers and sisters from elsewhere! Been there, done that, experienced that. No question. To me it is just like asking who is driving the car!
Next question, please! :P
Yes, testing on advanced reverse technology by military factions worldwide...no doubt about that as well.
There is so much more to this phenomenon than the craft. No mystery involved once one has experienced them. It is awesome to say the least.
It is my greatest wish, desire, hope that folks will get beyond the UFOs stuff and get on with the cultural diversities that are going to overwhelm earth inhabitants once intergalactic awareness and interaction is opened up (and this will be very soon). Then HUMAN rights will change to SENTIENT rights. But believe me the cultural differences are going to be more of a problem for humans than they could ever ever have imagined and that really really concerns me!
You can't even begin to imagine the differences...I have been privy to interacting and I can't even find the words to assist in the transformation required ON BOTH SIDES to bridge that huge gap not of technology, but of (for want of another word) spirituality and concept of wholeness and unity that most species on an intergalactic level have.
The focus of existence is so far removed and believe me human concepts are indeed very primitive. I think the best earth has in working towards this goal, even on the simplst levels is the show Stargate SG1. While it is approached on a more humanistic level, they do engage in some pretty powerful "eye openers" as far as cultural differences are concerned. Check it out.
dalia
May 25 2001, 02:12 AM
Choices, choices, choices :o...
I think ufo's are basically all of the above...alien craft, military test craft, as well as time traveling humans. But also I believe some are natural phenomena that we don't have the expertise to explain yet.
Dalia
Jamie
May 25 2001, 06:38 PM
Some are UFO's and some are test crafts.
Jamie
SpaceyKC
May 26 2001, 03:44 AM
Okay, I want fancy special fx when I post too!!! ;D
I also want to give my 2 cents! I do believe some are UFOs and some are the military prototype of the information they got from alien technology!!

So, I guess I will go back to the drawing board!! ???
icy
Jul 27 2001, 02:27 AM
- UFO's are evidence of human time travel
Well, that's what I believe because I was surfing around this board and several places on the web and I saw some stuff about when we humans evolve we will likely look like those grey aliens. But seriously, I hope that doesn't happen because those gray alien thingies are really really ugly :-X
icy
Lori Cordini
Jul 28 2001, 04:33 AM
Having had a lifelong experience with the "greys" don't sell them short of their "looks". They have the most profound energy level of love I have ever known. Would humans learn to express this love, we would have "the Kingdom of God on Earth!"
reese92
Aug 3 2001, 12:06 AM
Hey there everybody, thought that this was just the perfect post to reply too, almost too perfect...
First I would like to say, that I think that it could be possible for them to be 'all of the above'. Who really knows? I won't pretend to know, because as much as I would like to think that I am special, I have never had the privilege of being told all the answers of the universe, as some have, apparently.
Lori,
I must say that you are like a pit bull. As much as you are torn down, you come right back, spewing the same garbage as before. Very Bold! How can you associate a Television show, with reality? And, also how can you expect anyone to believe that you have been abducted, and that you know certain things that others' don't.? Some people spend their entire lives trying to get at the truth, why would you be 'let in' to the secrets, when there is, quite possibly, more deserving people? Have you ever asked them why they chose you? I would really like to know. So please feel free to elaborate on the subject. You really baffle me, I feel bad for you. I feel as though you have some serious mental issues going on upstairs, and nowhere to turn... Now, if someone was to come along, and just for the argument, they said the EXACT opposite of everything you say, that they were contacted and taken, but the GREYS were evil; who would be lying?? Because, not everybody can be right, especially when there are drastic differences between the two stories. Am I right, or am I maybe completely insane myself??
Peace,
Teresa
FarvLarion
Aug 26 2001, 08:47 PM
I believe that UFO's are Aliens from space without a doubt. As for the military, if and when one crashes, they might take it for their own usage.
Loonboy
Aug 26 2001, 08:52 PM
Hi.
UFO's are both Alien spacecraft and test craft by our governments.
Some UFO's are uncannily like our own craft, if a little more advanced, and move in similar ways, if a little quicker.
On the other hand, some UFO's move in ways our craft cannot and by definition are ALIEN...
Clecko
Aug 28 2001, 02:58 AM
If we had the ability to fly off planet, wouldn't we want to explore other planets? And if we were able to experiment with the technology, wouldn't we?But time travel...if people can time treavel, why hasn't someone taken one, landed it, and said, hey! look at me in my crazy spaceship! I'm from the future! I know people who would, just for world fame.
odinsupreme
Sep 2 2001, 03:16 PM
Hmmmmm, all of them and a couple of others only the time travel thing is fake, it just isn't possible. I think that most of them are just fakes, made by people who want to be on TV. Only 2% are ET UFOs.
Odin Supreme 8)
Great Big Sea
Dec 21 2003, 02:27 AM
SaRuMan here's my theory: USAF aircrafts you know maybe their testing out new BlackHawks or something.
Here's what I really think: I'm not sure, at all.
Hey Dalia! We have the same Avatar!

For a second there I thought I posted already!
Happy Holidays!
kreestar
Dec 22 2003, 12:27 AM
Some UFO's are alien, some are test craft
joc
Dec 22 2003, 01:09 AM
I think that UFOs are actually the craft used by angels to traverse the heavens.
joc
Tess
Dec 22 2003, 01:25 AM
I think UFO's are called UFO's for a reason.....they are "unidentified" flying objects.
I used to believe 100% that they were aliens from space,but i'm just not sure anymore.......they could be us from the future.....if we colonize other planets and/or live in space,it would alter our appearance.....so it's possible we develop time travel and come back.....I just don't know.
Joc,we have discussed this topic before,you still think angels travel in physical modes of transportation???Please refresh my memory and explain it to me again!
moe eubleck
Dec 22 2003, 01:42 AM
over 700 posts and yet I still think I will stick to my jungian roots. See something in the sky you cant identify?
The filter in your psyche, Jung refered to as the"ego", will scream "UFO!!!"
An archetype for the scientific uknown. There's my opinion.

without resorting to science fictional motifs, what else could it be?
man_in_mudboots
Dec 28 2003, 11:28 PM
nonexistant.
thefirstman
Dec 28 2003, 11:49 PM
I think that they are both a mixture of Aliens visiting our planet(for whatever reason,i dont see why)and Military Test Craft,they have to test their new stuff somewhere,although im mnot too sure if they are making "new stuff".Confused?
Yeah me too.
zygon
Dec 29 2003, 12:01 AM
i think that they could be anything, seeing as they are unidentified

but most likely that they are alien craft or military doo-da-majig's being tested.
did anyone see that programme on sky one about 'rods'? These wierd rod shaped things had been caught on camera flying around. of course, since theyve only been caught on camera it could be something to do with ligt, magnetic fields or something to screw up the camera slightly, but was a cool programme. i'll shut up now
Dracunum3010
Dec 30 2003, 05:02 PM
ALiens are from space!~
wunarmdscissor
Dec 30 2003, 06:58 PM
Some sightings are alien and some are military aircraft.
Im firmly on the fence.
Some sightings could be imagination too

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anonymous57
Dec 30 2003, 10:11 PM
They could be anything. I think a lot of them are human aircraft of sorts, an airship can easily be "an unidentified cigar shaped object hovering noiselessly above the ground".
There is proof that some of them may be aliens (or time travellers) though, as many radar operators have reported tracking things that were moving much faster than any plane invented. When these objects were first reported in the cold war (I think) they were dissmissed as Russian/American aircraft. After the cold war, both governments confirmed that neither of them had developed any craft capable of such high speeds.
Gandalf900
Jan 1 2004, 08:32 PM
Just folks passing by, stopping by for a picnic and entertainment!
Yes, just on holiday! Not everyone is familiar with their modern vehicles.
Once more people get use them, "unidentified' will be passe'. If you do some more research into cave drawings, early AD paintings you can see the representation of the 'unidentified' vehicles. Imagine a jet plane passing overhead in 500 AD, gee, "The Gods Must be Crazy"
It is simply a matter of evolution. When one is open for the endless possibilities a whole new world opens up...remember if one researches and that's what libraries and internet are for one will note that in 1957 ((I think that was the year) Washington DC had many witnesses to UFO fly-overs. This is nothing new. Read, research and you will see the endless reports are not wild imagination.
Good Grief! This is the age of awakening....so wake up and see your neighbor from Alpha Centuri
-lori
After much research and analysis, I have concluded that Ufos do not exist!
Without stable wormholes there is no way any craft could traverse the distances of the galaxy. Apparently the only wormholes that actually exist are those unstable ones associated with black holes and the ones eluded to by Homer....
...the ones in the ground used by actual worms...
There is therefore in my opinion a logical explanation for all ufo sightings.
One explanation that remains a constant for me is that of the angels. In many ancient artworks there seems to be a representation of flying saucers of some sort or another. I believe the laws of physics applies to the entire universe and everything in it. So, the angels would have to travel around the cosmos in some form of vehicle.
After much research and analysis, I have concluded that Ufos do not exist!
Without stable wormholes there is no way any craft could traverse the distances of the galaxy. Apparently the only wormholes that actually exist are those unstable ones associated with black holes and the ones eluded to by Homer....
...the ones in the ground used by actual worms...
There is therefore in my opinion a logical explanation for all ufo sightings.
Tess
Jan 1 2004, 09:54 PM
| QUOTE (joc @ Jan 1 2004, 03:44 PM) |
Without stable wormholes there is no way any craft could traverse the distances of the galaxy.
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But Joc,just because you don't think there's a way for them to travel doesn't mean that it's not possible.They could have technology that we may not be able to understand or duplicate.
And your "angels traveling in physical modes of transportation"is an interesting concept........but i tend to believe that the ufo's in ancient artwork were depicted in a religious/spiritual way because people back then attributed everything out of the norm or unexplainable in that way.They had no other way to explain what they were seeing or experiencing,so they assumed it had something to do with God.
andromeda
Jan 1 2004, 10:53 PM
| QUOTE |
| But Joc,just because you don't think there's a way for them to travel doesn't mean that it's not possible.They could have technology that we may not be able to understand or duplicate. |
There is no technology that can even get close to the speed of light, Which is the speed you would need, for intergalactic travel....
....hmmmmmmmm, joc has a thought,.........nevermind...
Tess
Jan 1 2004, 11:48 PM
| QUOTE (joc @ Jan 1 2004, 06:23 PM) |
There is no technology that can even get close to the speed of light
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Sure,WE don't have that kind of technology........but it's possible some other civilization does.That's exactly the point i'm trying to make Joc. Just cause we aren't capable of certain things or don't understand things or can't duplicate things doesn't mean it's not possible.You can't say there IS NO technology that can even get close to the speed of light,you can only say WE don't possess that type of technology.
Tess
Jan 2 2004, 09:03 PM
Joc,
You don't think ufo's are real anymore?To quote you on oct.20(different forum),you said "I don’t have to see a UFO to intellectually deduce that they are around.".......i'm just curious,what made you change your mind?
Tess
Jan 9 2004, 03:02 AM
| QUOTE (joc @ Jan 1 2004, 06:23 PM) |
....hmmmmmmmm, joc has a thought,.........nevermind... |
What was that thought you had??
thepsychoticseaotter
Jan 9 2004, 03:23 AM
UFO's are neither Alien or test craft
I once read a theory that stated that UFO's may actually be some yet undiscovered animal.
The basics were that on Earth there are animals that live their entire life in one enviroment ( water, the ground, etc) except no animal ever has been found that lives it's entire life in the sky.
Anyway seeing the stories of how they 'Play' with aircraft is remindful of how daolphins play with ships.
That's the short of it and to me the most possible explanation.
Mutant Snake
Jan 9 2004, 11:27 PM
I havent had an experience, yet. i think they r all of the above, except nonexistant.
DespondentDave
Jan 13 2004, 07:27 PM
I don't have any firm beliefs on this matter but I do have a few theories.
firstly, it is strange that a very high percentage of UFO sightings happen near or around military bases. I would suggest that for many year top secret experiments have been taking place with regards to far superior forms of flight than aeroplanes. That is where I feel most of the sightings eminate from.
The whole secenario of UFOs visiting us from another world, outside of Earth or our Solar System becomes less plasible with each passing year for me. How is it, despite all the satellites, telescopes, space stations and what not we have trained on the immediate area around this planet that none of them ever spot these UFOs arriving? You have thousands of sightings per year, yet none of these technologically advanced systems ever see them coming or going! Sorry, there will be alien life form out there somewhere, be it intelligent or primitive, but the odds of it ever having been here are astronomical.
However if we are looking for a supernatural possibility, then the subject of time travel or parallel universes makes for a much more plausible explanation for me. On many occasions we have heard of people slipping into the past for a few minutes. Maybe, just maybe, these UFOs are from Earth, way off into the future.
For one final comment to support the theory, if you support the scientists evolution theories on how we, as humans, will eventually develop, they will say three things. 1) We will become much smaller in height, but our heads will expand. 2) We will eventually shed all hair from our bodies. Neither males nor females will have hair. 3) Our eyes will become larger.
I know not the reasons for 1 and 3, but that's what they say. Is it me, or does that supposed future human sound pretty much like the classic grey alien?
So, to summarise, non-military UFOs are visitors from another time, rather than another planet.
Babs
Jan 13 2004, 07:59 PM
DreamRebel
Jan 13 2004, 08:05 PM
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Tess
Jan 13 2004, 10:49 PM
| QUOTE (thepsychoticseaotter @ Jan 8 2004, 10:23 PM) |
I once read a theory that stated that UFO's may actually be some yet undiscovered animal.
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I must admit that's one theory i have never heard of before,but i am willing to read up on it.........any links available on the subject?
thepsychoticseaotter
Jan 14 2004, 02:10 AM
Sorry no links that I have found yet. I read it in a book called ' the unexplained: the truth is in here" Obviously it come out at the height of the X-files craze.
I'll get you more info as I can but I can't find my copy of the book as I am rearranging somestuff and have it boxed somwhere. I'll try to find it this weekend.
Tess
Jan 15 2004, 12:20 AM
| QUOTE (thepsychoticseaotter @ Jan 13 2004, 09:10 PM) |
I'll get you more info as I can |
OK,will be waiting............
Engulf
Jan 15 2004, 08:56 AM
Tess

,
I think what thepsychoticseaotter meant was the Sky-beast. There was a thread done on this before, I'll supply the link.
Right HereHope that helped.
thepsychoticseaotter
Jan 16 2004, 12:50 AM
Hey thanks Engulf, I'm still looking for the book though to make sure it's the ame Idea.
On a side note I did not realize I had so many D&D books.....Amzing what you find when you clean a bit.....
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