people in the world today, why do you question other beliefs?? is it because you want to be right? what is the reason people try to spread their religion. i am atheist, and i have realized, if i attack another religion, i am in fact becoming part of religion itself. . . religion is EATING the planet up, wars are made by it, it and money. . . the 2 main causes of distress in the world. respect others, be happy with what youu have because you could have alot less, and most importantly of all, DONT attack another's beliefs, because they have the same right as you to believe in it

Not to be rude but religon is the reson why we are in the current war we are in not saying its all religons the fault, but it can be distructive , people talk about science all the time, everyone doesnt belive in it ,yet evolution gets attacked all the time. But when its religon its diffrent?

Appology accepted. Now git offa my lawn ya dang kids!

And git me a beer!

You should be apologizing to Odin the allfather, not me.

im trying to say that im not going to be attacking anyone's beliefs anymore, you all should do the same. it is a human's natural right to think for him/herself, and well, i dont appreciate it when you currupt my thread with your negative phrases.

yo moderators, if you want to delete this from the forum then be WELCOME to, i see im not going to get much positivity from here. . .

Don't take it like that, it's just I dont recall any time that you really went out of line, although there must be atleast one to warrant a thread like this..

ptch.. I accepted the appologies. What more do you want?

(gods.. I've been roleplaying my satyr character to much.. I almost started using her greek words...)

I for one am seriously tired of the christian bashing going on lately, mainly one person who I shall not name as the mods look down on that kind of thing. But your right as to religion is ones personal faith and your welcome if you feel the need to that is to present question about ones religion of belief but to personally attack someone and their beliefs is totally uncalled for and shows VERY poor character. I do my best not to offend anyone though I do occasionnally it is not intentional and I apologize if I have offended anyone here as it is my intention to be thoughtful and kind when asking of another's religion or beliefs. I believe everyone has a right to their own beliefs and that respect should always be shown. Some say respect is earned but to be respectful is certainly a fine trait to have in my opinion.
Thanks for the thread here some could take this opportunity to apologize for any disrespectful things they have said.
Always a pleasure

Well if religous and athiest a like can both agree that we should be respectful of each other then whats the problem?

Just make a new name like athigion or relathiest (thats a good word "relate thiest") and say it's the middle line wear athiests and religion agrees. We both respect and love each other despite opposing beliefs.

I happen to think it take a big person to say they are sorry for attacking what some else's believe's and i think your right in saying that we all have the right to believe as we wish....

It is your soul right not to believe in God just as it's my right to believe in him.....

*nuzzles up to Isis* How ya been girl?

Salaam (Peace)

Any offending done by me has been accidental and completely unintended. I do not have a hostile attitude towards those who have different beliefs than me and Im really dissapointed every I hear a Muslim saying hurtful things to a non-Muslim or to another Muslim that holds a different opinion.

The forum is for debate. Just because I disagree with someones religion doesn't mean I am bashing it.

I think it's only natural for people to question other's beliefs... I agree that 'bashing' is disrespectful, but surely everyone has a right to raise their concerns?

No it doesn't, I came to know you first here at UM and in the whole time I have been here you have never "bashed anyone's beliefs or their lack of.
But you must agree there are some that do come here to bash peoples beliefs and to start arguments ect. sad but true. Luckily we have awesome mods that stop them in their tracks.
Always a pleasure

It seems that a lot of people here can not tell the difference nor do they care to.

I have seen "bashing" take many forms here. Slip of the tongue, sly, outright, sarcastic, belligerent etc. I have also found that the poster can diffuse that hostile situation with the right approach if they refuse to react in the expected manner. I think "sandee" will agree with me as we have tried it together once and succeeded, with full knowledge of what we were attempting to do. She then went on and tried it on her own and it worked for her too. Step back, think and respond in a non-hostile receptive manner and either they will back off for fear that they will look ridiculous, or they will respond and join into a productive thread. If there is no hope for them, they will either disappear or mod will step in to stop them. So far that has not happened. I don't see the need to give up on them unless they have a screw loose, obviously.

Mariposa1

WOW i had no clue this post turned out so positively, i'm proud of u guyz

people if you want to find some respectable individuals, look to this post because as one of you said, it takes a big person to apologize for stuff they did, and i admit i have said some pretty rude things. i do not believe in god, but if you do it is YOUR CHOICE not mine. noone has a right to insult someone for what they believe in. im sad that this world must suffer the wars that ensue with the disrespect of mankind. i believe the current war we are in is over religion, thats just my opinion though, OH and for the oil and the cash, never can forget the moolah!


religion corrupts, money corrupts, and most importantly, POWER corrupts. if you are sure you have enough force behind your attack to gain what you want, then you are going to go for it, am i right? it is how mankind started, it is how it is going right now. unfortunately.

thank you guys so much for respecting this thread, bashing other peoples beliefs is uncalled for and you showed exemplary behavior.

We are distracted trying to figure out who Silver Cougar is getting the free beer from.

lol it was me, we toasted to respect!

i instill so much peace into the world! what would UM be without me!!!!!

I think the main problem with the religions is the new and the state of the world and a war. You have muslim fighting the christians. Ofcouse they have been fight for 2000 plus year. I do apology if I have stepped toes and I know I have. Sort of defensive nature. Sorry

I don't think without religion that would be less war. In my opinion it's just an excuse, because human always invent reasons for war.

true. this war thats going on i think is an example of poeple inventing reasons for war ex:religion,oil,terrorism,trying to establish democracy and probably more reasons every time i see the news it looks like
the reason changed and goes on back and foward thats how i see it, but i could be wrong.

That's very true. Try going to IMDB and reading their debate threads. There are people there who'd start wars if you didn't like the movies they do.

I think a problem with debating religious and political topics is that you find many many people who seem to have the idea that to respect someone's right to believe whatever they do is to respect their belief. This is a problem as they'll see an attack on their religion as an attack on themselves. I have no problem saying that I find all religions silly and stupid, but that's not the same as saying that I find the believers silly and stupid. Yes there are many I do find to be that way, but that's because of who and how they are and not because of what religion they follow. I've encountered a lot of nice people online who were fundamentalist Christians or whatever else religion.

I do think there is another problems as well. In Denmark we had the Cartoon thing which got some Muslims up in a bunch. Denmark wasn't really prepared for such a response to cartoons. In one program I saw a reporter went out to Muslims in Denmark and asked them about their belief. There were so many who put Muhammad above their own families. I couldn't comprehend that. I think when dealing with people with that level of faith you can't really avoid offending them because they seem to be their faith for the most part. I'm an atheist, but that's a very very small part of me, I'd never give that in a definition of myself unless it was in context to religious topics. So when someone "attacks" atheism I don't get the same emotional response as a fundamentalist would.