Hi everyone im new to the forums, so this is going to be my first post

i've been coming to this site for a while now just reading stuff but lately i've been doing more research and trying to find answers and i want you to look at this article http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1206/deception.html and this one
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0307/tremble.html

basically what it says in that article is that aliens are really not super-intelligent beings , but they're fallen angels sent to deceive mankind , and i truly believe it. The reason i believe this is because last year around september i had a dream , mind you i'm only 17 years old , here's what happened in my dream, i was at a beach at some sort of party and there were alot of people , when suddenly i see the sun fall from the sky (now in my dream im waiting for bad stuff to happen earthquakes , tsunamis etc..) even though the sun fell there was still light , you could see clearly. Then i hear trumpets sound very loud and i look up in the sky and i see clouds gathering around a person (Jesus) and i see jesus in the sky with four angels around him, in my dream this was truely a remarkable sight , but this is were the dream finished. I also told my cousin and one of my friends about this dream , my cousin said he also had a similar dream and my friend told his mom about the dream and she told him that it was a sign.

That's why i truly believe everything in those articles and i believe jesus will come back to save us all.

1. There is no proof that aliens are or have ever visited earth
2. There is no proof that Jesus was indeed the son of god (any god)
3. Dreams are just that; i.e. dreams; fantasies created by the subconscious mind

I would say that you have nothing to worry about.

However, when it comes to religious belief, then you just may be in for a horrific time. Not because of fallen angels/aliens, but because of your own beliefs.

A reality check might be in order, but that's just my opinion.

quite a vivid dream you had.
Now go and give your final confession!
the end is near!
HA!

Wanting & expecting so bad to have 'someone/thing' come save us all from the chaos/turmoil of this planet that we alone created & should be tak'n care of is really kinda sad & stupid at the same time. Ya know kinda like...''Look up in the sky it's Superman, he'll save us!''...in this case Jesus or even Lord Tom Cruise sorry Xeon^®. Maybe we should 'grow up' a little as a species rather than sit there expecting all our asses to be saved from beyond...

Thats why they just flitter in and out of the area to get a little laugh at how we are doing. they it them what ever we are seeing is real in some cases or just manifested by great thinkers as we are can be. But keep looking up and DONTEATUS

If they indeed exist, then they are family - regardless of whether they're good or bad, IMO. Really, the concept of Extraterrestrials visiting Earth isn't that big of a deal. I mean, if other species exist at all out there, then it's an inevitability that sooner or later we're going to be visited. Period.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

But the question is, have we been?

And that's a question which needs answering with reference to evidence, rather than armchair philosophy.

I'm not that stubborn. The sworn word of hundreds of military personnel from around the world is good enough for me.

Can I ask were you get your weed from ?

Dan Dare

Those are some pretty hefty conclusions being formed based simply on some obscure dreams, a mother's superstitious speculation and catalyzed by biased internet sources. Not a very reliable mix.

I'd suggest the OP take a step back and reevaluate.

While I don't have any definitive answers myself, the claims you make in no way serve as evidence for such conclusions.

I'm glad you are too young to vote.

I thought people on here would've been more open minded , but i clearly see the opposite

i'm just gonna stick to other forums from now on.

Deminel, what you speak of I agree with. UFO's coming to earth to take a flight through the atmosphere and then leave only to travel back to "their" home seems less far fetched than the idea of fallen angels deceiving people to think that life here is insignificant - who needs God anyway? Technology/Aliens will eventually save us from this place of doom.

The End is Nigh?

Forgive me for saying so, but defining all aliens/extraterrestrials/ultradimensional beings as being "evil" isn't exactly being "open minded".

i didn't say that all aliens are evil but the bible says "There are no more evolved super intelligent aliens out there. The Bible makes it clear that man is the highest form of creation, created in the image of God Himself (Genesis 1:26-27), that He created man for His own glory (Isaiah 43:7), that man was wonderfully made (Psalm 139:14), that the heavens are the heavens of the Lord but the earth He has given to the sons of man (Psalm 115:16). We are told that all things were created by Christ both in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, thrones and dominions all were created by Him and for Him (Colossians 1:16). We are told to praise the Lord as are the angels, the sun and the moon, the stars, because He established all (Psalm 148), And finally we are told that there is only one God and only one mediator between man and God and that is Jesus Christ (1Timothy 2:5)."

The Bible says that "if an angel from heaven (extraterrestrial) should preach to you a gospel contrary to that we have preached to you let them be accursed (Galatians 1:8). If these extraterrestrial, fallen angels try and tell you things that run contrary to the Bible, beware of them because they are false Christs (Matthew 24:24). "


Who knows what might happen ,
I may be wrong I may be right , all we can do is wait and speculate.
These are just some of my beliefs i understand people have their own beliefs and ideas and i don't mock or put them down.

What if Jesus himself is an Extraterrestrial? And what if he isn't the only one of his kind? Do you think the Bible would tell you about that, or would you have to wait for a revised edition?

What did you expect?? THis is not a religious forum. Not even close.

Indeed, and if one can't tolerate one's hypothesis being closely and critically scrutinized, well, then this is certainly not the place to post.....

Cheers,
Badeskov

Many people also want to believe in an extraterrestrial savior who will come and save them from wars and plagues and global warming and mostly from themselves. Some have been told by these entities that Jesus was an extraterrestrial or a heavenly angel. That is the connection between Jesus and UFOs that is so critical to understand. The Bible says that if an angel from heaven (extraterrestrial) should preach to you a gospel contrary to that we have preached to you let them be accursed (Galatians 1:8). If these extraterrestrial, fallen angels try and tell you things that run contrary to the Bible, beware of them because they are false Christs (Matthew 24:24)



i know it's not a religious forum , but it does involve with extraterrestrial's and ufo's.

There's a difference between "open minded" and "completely lost touch with reality."

Also, the irony of a religious person like yourself accusing those who don't want to indulge your fantasies as being "closed minded" is extremely funny.




No they haven't.

I fully understand those are your personal beliefs and you are 100% entitled to them. Just as I am entitled to pose the possibility that the bible was written by men under no divine influence, but instead with intention to influence other men. Shepards of the masses, wielding fear of hell and rapture to herd their followers whichever way they pleased. Personally, I find that to be a much more realistic explaination.

However, this is simply what I believe, and I am certainly open to things proving otherwise. I'm sure you have your own personal reasons compelling you towards your faith. You've probably already considered this possibility.

i don't want anyone to take any action or follow what i say - i was mostly referring to dan-dare's comment and some others.







that was a quote from one of the articles i posted , it's more of a prophecy than truth.

Dont you remember the tv series V they came here just to get some munchies! US, thats a possibility ? Hum? what goes good with human? Just sprinkle some salt on them and they will desolve.LoL DONTEATUS

There are no more evolved super intelligent aliens out there. The Bible makes it clear that man is the highest form of creation, created in the image of God Himself (Genesis 1:26-27)

Its a good argument for skeptics who believe ets never visited earth.

Wheres that exibit A guy when you need him?

You have to be real thick skinned to hang around here Deminel. Welcome to the boards and your baptism by fire. I'm jealous, I wish I had dreams that vivid. What did the angels look like?

"There are no more evolved super intelligent aliens out there. The Bible makes it clear that man is the highest form of creation, created in the image of God Himself (Genesis 1:26-27)"

Well if the Bible say's so,then it must be true!!!

A large amount of us don't believe in the bible, much less that ET is related to fallen angels. Thats is really hard to swallow if not out right silly.

As most have stated most will give u a really hard time with topics like this , but that personally what drew me to this form to exspress yourself and your believes and to have all different believes try and shut you down and debate and come up with other conclutions and give you really interesting insites in different paths and faults you might have said or believe you have done . It's a place you can post and hide behind your pc without seeming completely pycho to the world soo take everything with a pinch of salt .

But back on topic , in the past i have had dreams come true but your vivid dreams sound interesting but i wouldn't completely believe its true . I dreamt one night in a dream where i woke up in a cold sweat which felt completely real that i was attacked by my car and shot multiple times by three men with pistols . Since i have dreamed that its been two years and i have gone through three cars since then and in that dream it was my old car i was standing by .

For one thing aliens are a myth still to me with no true evidence of them ever excisting therefor if they are indeed fallen angels they are doing a bad job of decieving us . For me i have seen many cases through the years where if u have enough faith in something a dream like this can become a realality believe . Just as some people still will argue that the world is flat and will never let you tell them otherwize .

/regards

Read the book Nephilim by L.A. Marzulli . Its about aliens being fallen angels and nephilim. i thought it was a good book, and made me wonder if it is true.

Hi, Thank you for the welcome

Well in my dream the angels looked like babies , they had gold hair, white skin and we're surrounded in this brilliant light. That dream was the first one i could remember from start to finish, I even wrote the whole thing down in full detail in notepad, but it got deleted when I erased everything from my computer , it was about 2 pages long.

Now i'm not saying that all the things I said before are going to happen because of my dream. but I believe it's one of many signs i'm still trying to figure out , i'm just saying I have a "feeling" and i've been looking around in other forums and there are other people that feel the same way I do.

But who really knows? Only time will tell.

So we say "go away and leave us alone!" to anyone that might decide to drop in for a visit, is that correct?

You're perfectly free to believe in what you believe, but for me truth never came from pressed tree fibers. It comes from the heart. Extraterrestrials may not even exist - I'm open to that. But I will stick to the idea that if they do exist, that the same creative force or being (if that exists as well) that created us also played a part in creating them. Honestly, I fear humans far more than I fear a civilization advanced enough to come here.

I too wanted some answers and spent a pretty long time reading around for my answers...I have also had a few personal accounts i have already talked about on this forum. Anyway my conclusion is the same...It makes no sence and is highly unlikely that ET travels light years at a time from planet to planet for a visit that only results in to a 3 minute sighting...Even Scientist have agreed if ET is real, then they are here and have been here for quite sometime...they can dematerialize and rematerialize, penetrate walls, and do other things that can be catorgorized as Supernatural...

Fallen Angel , Demonic / Angelic Entitys .....its make more sence the POINTLESS visits that have not betterd mankind one bit....They have done jack diddly squat for humanity but yet they have been visiting earth since the begining? Frindly My ass....they are worthless..never stopping nuclear war, polution, crime, nor hate....We are all destroying this planet and thay are watching, waiting for a final prophecie wich will lead to a Global Visitation and Final disclosure.

Speaking of Not hepling us out? Ever ask your self what they are doing here??? according to many...they are abducting, cattle mutilating, and geneticly altering the gene pool.....Still sound Friendly?? Screw The Aliens...Its a Scam...and just as the Bible promised , The majority will be duped. Its already been written. Only a Few will see through the deception...whiule the rest of the world embraces the lie with open arms...scoffers will turn and eventually kill the oposition....Aliens will come and claim to be our saviors, They will come when we need them most., Get ready.....

Suffered from heavy fallout lately comrade?

talking about WWII, ie Japan.....nagasaki and heroshima suffered the fall out mean while they were flying around in germany??

Well what do you know, I completely agree with you on this one.

"We have met the enemy and he is us" ~Pogo~

iId lake to add that US soil has had more Nuke detinations then any other contry....L.V. and New Mexico were our testing grounds....

Yeah - I know. But we're still dealing with numbers here. I think they'd only directly intervene if an actual full nuclear exchange took place. Anything else that affects only a few hundred or thousand people...meh. Sounds cold hearted, I know, but still.

how bout a flash from the past? "Boom Boom Out Goes the Lights" Boom Town Rats.Late 70`s DONTEATUS

One thing is war between humans other thing is fight against aliens.

For more sadistic it can appear, when humans attack each other, be it terrorism, political differences or racial extirpation, there always be humans remain and life will continue after all.

But in case of an alien threat, you can expect no mercy it would be to exterminate the entire humans from the planet, so no one left alive, a total annihilation.

It seems to me you are trying to convert people to Christianity. Going to a UFO forum to try and convert people to Christianity is inappropriate. It's just plain wrong.

Unless it involves midgets and ninjas, then it's Kosher.

I think he was just going by what he read in the link provided. But in regards to that link as well as elsewhere (RCC/Vatican, do a search) It seems as tho Christianity/Religion as a whole i think are actually start'n to believe it themselves, ('the connection between Ufology & Religion/ETs & Jesus'). Maybe they're getting a little restless wait'n for the Messiah's Second Coming to save us all. So they probably figure the ETs will get here first thus 'claim them as their own'...


*BTW that Yulish character that wrote the article is basically just ripp'n extracts from Revelations & trying to connect it to Sitchens type theories...err nothing new there, not to this forum anyway...

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I can honestly say that that is the funniest assemblage of emoticons I have ever seen.

I like my life, its not awesome but it doesnt suck either. I'm well off and im not stuck in a 3rd world country like alot of poor people. So why do white trash bogans come on forums posting about the end times? wake up to yourself. Not everyone has it sh** and not everyone wants the world to end. I really thought religion was suppose to bring hope and happiness to peoples lives but some aspects of christianity just seems to bring pesimism (which i think is a huge shame for these people).

I dont think aliens are angles in fact I think they are just another form of life. Humans are their own worst enemy. Yea im sure there are good and bad aliens just like us humans lets just hope if they do make their self known to us its the good aliens that get here before the bad little green men.

Well i'm sorry you've had such a negative reaction to this forum. However, you must expect to read things here that will be different from what you've heard before. To come to a forum and curse a whole group of people for the statements of one or two doesn't make much sense to me. There are millions across the globe that see Christianity as a means to true peace, joy and happiness. However in the bible there is a lot of aspects that deal with much hurt and pain. Whoever told you that Christianity is all about joy and goodness wasn't correct.

Jesus wasn't Christian.

I stopped reading when you said fallen angels. Is that a joke?