freaky1974
Mar 11 2008, 01:09 PM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article902014.eceI don't know if this is the right section or not, but check this link out. A creepy gnome is terrorizing a south american town, is it an alien or something else? Could the footage be a fake?
What are your views?
Mattshark
Mar 11 2008, 01:19 PM
QUOTE (freaky1974 @ Mar 11 2008, 02:09 PM)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article902014.eceI don't know if this is the right section or not, but check this link out. A creepy gnome is terrorizing a south american town, is it an alien or something else? Could the footage be a fake?
What are your views?
As a Liverpool Football Club fan, I have a total boycott of that scummy lying rag, but could you post the video separately at all?
However since the scum also called a pacific sleeper shark a megalodon shark, it is not the best source of anything (they are well known liars).
Sweetpumper
Mar 11 2008, 03:51 PM
I can't get the video to play.
abadon19464
Mar 11 2008, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Mar 11 2008, 08:19 AM)

As a Liverpool Football Club fan, I have a total boycott of that scummy lying rag, but could you post the video separately at all?
However since the scum also called a pacific sleeper shark a megalodon shark, it is not the best source of anything (they are well known liars).
I heard that this 'gnome' accosted several local youths and offered them exclusive rates on five star Caribbean vacations, sending one boy to the hospital in paroxysms of excitement from the incredible savings.
I actually did see the video from the link, and I'm guessing that it's a prank. While I'm not ruling out the existence of gnomes and leprechauns, one has to wonder about the cryptid dress code being so uniform that it provides for the aforementioned creatures dressing in conical hats and green jumpers.
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Occam's Razor - All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.
~ MacDDT ~
Mar 11 2008, 04:12 PM
I'm pretty sure all those teenage kids would be laughing and joking at the little gnome. I know at that age (unfortunately) I would have stolen his hat
bogcreeper
Mar 11 2008, 04:26 PM
Just read about it on the news. I do not know what to believe. The sideways walk is either real or very well thought out. These creatures have been seen throughout history, but my question is why is it creepy? Weird maybe, but creepy.
Cr33p
Mar 11 2008, 04:52 PM
I've seen some videos in my time. But I love this one! Wonder if he was naked and had a leaf covering the nether regions?
ravergirl
Mar 11 2008, 04:58 PM
I laughed. my roommate is scared to death. we think it's real despite the source.
Guyver
Mar 11 2008, 05:06 PM
One of the disrespectful youths ran towards the unfortunate gnome and gave it a football style kick. Poor creature was severly injured and its magical terrorizing powers were compromised!
Xeaphon
Mar 11 2008, 05:41 PM
It is quite strange that everyone was scared. It would be a bit more natural to assume that it was someone with dwarfism or some sort of trick robot. However, with aliens or paranormal beings, witnesses often describe a feeling of unatural terror
fatrobot
Mar 11 2008, 05:50 PM
awesome!
I want one as a pet
no make that 2 and i'd make them fight
D is here
Mar 11 2008, 06:33 PM
This is sad.
These youths weren't 'toughies' they were 'pansies' for being horrified by the site of a tiny person.
They ought to be ashamed of themselves.
This story is just stupid and sad...
And people wonder if the legendary gnomes, dwarfs or little people exist 'why' they don't make their presence known publicly to everyone.
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~edited in--> I personally think the video is a hoax!
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Moon Demon
Mar 11 2008, 07:33 PM
I was really creeped out by this video because it looks so authentic. But then I got to thinking, there are walking dolls now, could this be one? I just don't know of a doll that would walk sideways. Anyone have any clue?
On a side note, there are tiny people in the world. Even smaller than "midgets". I just hope nobody hurts this person or creature simply because it is small.
rideron
Mar 11 2008, 07:44 PM
It's pretty clearly a dwarf with deformed legs, causing his/her wobbly walk
667-Neighbor of the Beast
Mar 11 2008, 07:55 PM
I would say this was set up. I mean, who records videos that long on their phone, and just about people talking about fishing. He HAPPENED to be recording when this thing popped out??
Not to mention, it is just a little person in a hat. He looks like he is walking down the road, and when he sees the camera being pointed at him, starts "hopping" sidways, almost like he is playing for the camera.
Nothing creepy about it. I mean, would you be afraid if Gary Coleman started hopping around in front of your camera??
Moon Demon
Mar 11 2008, 08:09 PM
hoax or authentic
regardless, it is a good video,
Left Field
Mar 11 2008, 08:16 PM
hahaha, that thing is awesome!
Left Field
Mar 11 2008, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 11 2008, 02:55 PM)

I mean, would you be afraid if Gary Coleman started hopping around in front of your camera??

I definately would be.
xXDevious DecoyXx
Mar 11 2008, 08:20 PM
I want a gnome!! They should have captured it.
D is here
Mar 11 2008, 08:25 PM
QUOTE (X~X~FluffyLudoX~X~ @ Mar 11 2008, 03:20 PM)

I want a gnome!! They should have captured it.

So, if you were a little person strolling along minding your own business, do you think it'd be okay to be kidnapped and held against your will?
Guyver
Mar 11 2008, 08:31 PM
Yah! They would be great to have around. They could clean the creepy spot behind the frig!
D is here
Mar 11 2008, 08:36 PM
nevermind
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xXDevious DecoyXx
Mar 11 2008, 08:39 PM
QUOTE (D is here @ Mar 11 2008, 04:25 PM)

So, if you were a little person strolling along minding your own business, do you think it'd be okay to be kidnapped and held against your will?

Well obviously if I said they should have captured "IT", I thought that it was a gnome and not just a small person with a pointy hat and maybe I should have put it this way--- They should have captured it if it was really a gnome.Just thought it was obvious enough but I guess not.
Moon Demon
Mar 11 2008, 08:41 PM
Why is it that anytime a human sees something they aren't familiar with, their first reaction is to kill it or capture it?
D is here
Mar 11 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (X~X~FluffyLudoX~X~ @ Mar 11 2008, 03:39 PM)

Well obviously if I said they should have captured "IT", I thought that it was a gnome and not just a small person with a pointy hat and maybe I should have put it this way--- They should have captured it if it was really a gnome.Just thought it was obvious enough but I guess not.

I thought your IT was referring to the unknown he/she factor.
I understand now.
I concur that would've made a more interesting video, to see a group of frightened teens trying to capture a legendary magical being (If the gnome's magic is as powerful as the legends stress it is.)
D is here
Mar 11 2008, 08:48 PM
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ Mar 11 2008, 03:41 PM)

Why is it that anytime a human sees something they aren't familiar with, their first reaction is to kill it or capture it?
Good question, You got me. I have no idea why that is, especially now-a-days.
It doesn't make sense, really.
Wallydraigle
Mar 11 2008, 08:50 PM
I'd pay $50 for one.
xXDevious DecoyXx
Mar 11 2008, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (D is here @ Mar 11 2008, 04:46 PM)

I thought your IT was referring to the unknown he/she factor.
I understand now.
I concur that would've made a more interesting video, to see a group of frightened teens trying to capture a legendary magical being (If the gnome's magic is as powerful as the legends stress it is.)

It would have been unbelievably funny. Especially if the gnome fought back. Unless it was evil.Kinda reminds me of "The leprechaun" that was one nasty leprechaun.
D is here
Mar 11 2008, 08:55 PM
QUOTE (X~X~FluffyLudoX~X~ @ Mar 11 2008, 03:51 PM)

It would have been unbelievably funny. Especially if the gnome fought back. Unless it was evil.Kinda reminds me of "The leprechaun" that was one nasty leprechaun.

Yep,
But I suspect a magic gnome would've probably just blipped out.
Guyver
Mar 11 2008, 08:58 PM
Good Grief!!!!! I just realized some of you people are serious. That scares me more than the creepy video.
Jesse Custer
Mar 11 2008, 09:03 PM
He's probably in town for Gary Gygax's funeral.
xXDevious DecoyXx
Mar 11 2008, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (D is here @ Mar 11 2008, 04:55 PM)

Yep,
But I suspect a magic gnome would've probably just blipped out.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.That would be smart idea unless the gnome had a rare condition where it cant do stuff like that.
nettysavalon
Mar 11 2008, 09:15 PM

O.M.G. thats where my garden gnome has gone.The little bugger took the gardening tools as well.
He always hated weeding but I never thought he would terrorize a whole town.
He should have said I would have bought some weedkiller.
Jesse Custer
Mar 11 2008, 09:59 PM
This youtube account appears to have two different takes for the same incident. Babelfish's rough translation for them reads:
"Fraud of appearance of duende, recorded twice different. This is first/second"
Duende on wikiStill creepy though.
It's kinda hard to sync the two clips up. On a second viewing, I thought maybe one was just a longer take of the other, but the scream at the end is definitely different.
Nucular
Mar 11 2008, 10:04 PM
Strange little story.
As far as I can see, there are two possibilities which don't involve actual gnomes: hoax, and error.
The error idea would, as many have mentioned, involve mistaking an actual very small person (or 'child', as they are otherwise known) for a supernatural creature due to the pointy hat and phat moves.
The hoax could have been done in a number of different ways, and may have been perpetrated by the boys on their own, or in collaboration with others (Virginia Wheeler of the Sun, I'm looking at you). Or alternatively, it could have been perpetrated on the boys, as a joke.
It's pretty much impossible to tell from a short article in the Sun and a blurry video. A web search seems just to come up with that Sun article pasted all over the web, anybody get any other links?
Personally, on balance my pesos are on hoax, by the kids. I know I would have similar things as a teenager, with access to some of the clever video editing software available now.
Nucular
Mar 11 2008, 10:09 PM
QUOTE (Jesse Custer @ Mar 11 2008, 09:59 PM)

This youtube account appears to have two different takes for the same incident. Babelfish's rough translation for them reads:
"Fraud of appearance of duende, recorded twice different. This is first/second"
Duende on wikiStill creepy though.
It's kinda hard to sync the two clips up. On a second viewing, I thought maybe one was just a longer take of the other, but the scream at the end is definitely different.
Oh, good catch.
Two takes, and they are different. Hoax, then.
Jesse Custer
Mar 11 2008, 10:14 PM
Following on from that, there's a link on the youtube page to
here that might shed a little light on the background, but Babelfish mostly gives out a bunch of Borat-esque broken English. You can probably get the jist though.
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In "more serious" mass media than this blog, some today dared to inform into the vision of duende in the locality of Güemes, province of Jumps. In little minutes - that could well have been taken those that informed so large deceit can be verified the fraud without having to make to cry to those who needs to believe any thing, nor to go down themselves to discuss with small irrational beings. A disguised monito is a puppet that is ex--professo, the irrefutabilidad of my sentence can notice in the truchada one of which they made at least two takings so that it leaves credible... and raised both! to Internet. By the doubts to that now they erase one, I loaded the two takings to YouTube. As they have the same structure (to char it informal in the cemetery, they create to feel something, camera that looks for, creature that appears, shouts and cut) of so many resemblances done until today, the appearance is enough with seeing only individual end - not to spend a minute of life with badly guionada introduction of young people hueveando in a cemetery. Here they have both short, whole ones. Pay attention.
The phrase "a disguised monito is a puppet" makes it sound like they're saying it's a disguised monkey or a puppet, but that seems almost as ridiculous as a real gnome. Anyway, it doesn't look like the blog writer/video uploader was involved with it or knows any more than we do.
ravergirl
Mar 11 2008, 10:20 PM
look central and south american cultures are steeped in superstition and mythology and for good reason. just because something creepy happened to some kids is no reason to get all up in arms on little people rights. if it is a person it is obviously near enough people to get help.
saturnian flame
Mar 11 2008, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Mar 11 2008, 04:26 PM)

Just read about it on the news. I do not know what to believe. The sideways walk is either real or very well thought out. These creatures have been seen throughout history, but my question is why is it creepy? Weird maybe, but creepy.
'creepy' sounds 'cool' while 'magical' sounds 'old fashioned'.....
I bet this little creature lost its way between dimensions or something
I wish I could meet one in person
Nucular
Mar 11 2008, 10:34 PM
QUOTE (Jesse Custer @ Mar 11 2008, 10:14 PM)

Following on from that, there's a link on the youtube page to
here that might shed a little light on the background, but Babelfish mostly gives out a bunch of Borat-esque broken English. You can probably get the jist though.
Here's the text of an alternative translation (Google translation) - slightly clearer translation, ruined because it insists on interspersing the translation with the original... still, posting it anyway:
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In media more "serious" this blog, one dared today to inform the vision of a ghost in the town of Güemes, Salta province. En escasos minutos -que bien se podrían haber tomado los que informaban tamaña falacia- se puede comprobar el fraude sin tener que hacer llorar a quienes precisan creer cualquier cosa, ni bajarse a discutir con pequeños seres irracionales. In just a few minutes-that it could have been taken which reported great fallacy-you can check fraud without having to mourn those who need to believe anything, or downloaded to discuss with small irrational beings. Sea un títere o sea un monito disfrazado ex-professo , la irrefutabilidad de mi sentencia puede notarse en la truchada de que hicieron al menos dos tomas para que salga creíble... Be a puppet or a disguised monito former professo, irrebutable my judgement can be noted in truchada that made at least two shots to exit credible ... y subieron ¡ambas! And climbed two! a Internet. Internet. Por las dudas a que ahora borren una, me cargué las dos tomas a YouTube . For the doubts that now erased one, I loaded the two shots to YouTube. Como tienen la misma estructura (charla informal en el cementerio, creen sentir algo, cámara que busca, criatura que aparece, gritos y corte) de tantos símiles hechos hasta hoy, basta con ver sólo sendos finales -la aparición- para no gastar un minuto de vida con la mal guionada introducción de jóvenes hueveando en un cementerio. As have the same structure (informal chat at the cemetery, believed to feel something, you are looking camera, a creature that appears, shouts and court) so many similes facts until today, just look at the only two late-onset-to not spend one minute Life guionada wrong with the introduction of young hueveando in a cemetery.
Aquí tienen ambos cortos, enteros. Here are two short, integers. Presten atención. Pay attention.
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The phrase "a disguised monito is a puppet" makes it sound like they're saying it's a disguised monkey or a puppet, but that seems almost as ridiculous as a real gnome. Anyway, it doesn't look like the blog writer/video uploader was involved with it or knows any more than we do.
Again, agreed. Sounds like a slightly 'out there' speculation. But those two videos are different - I thought for a moment they were two different edits maybe, but as you point out, the screams are different, and the torch isn't shone at the 'gnome' in one of the videos.
OldTimeRadio
Mar 12 2008, 12:56 AM
Please note that this is at least the THIRD major sighting of the "Gnome" in the same general area of Northern Argentina over the past seven years! It's NOT a one-shot.
In the first series of sightings the Gnome so terrorized two street cops plus a soldier (at three separate locations and on three separate occasions) that two of them had to be temporarily hospitalized on suicide watch.
One of the cops, who had been working the telephones and police radio at headquarters, was discovered hiding under his desk, shaking with fear.
It seems the Gnome had stopped by to pay a social call.
"He said he was here to take me to Hell!" the cop repeated over and over again. "He said he was here to take me to Hell!"
Teufelhund
Mar 12 2008, 01:10 AM
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ Mar 12 2008, 01:56 AM)

Please note that this is at least the THIRD major sighting of the "Gnome" in the same general area of Northern Argentina over the past seven years! It's NOT a one-shot.
In the first series of sightings the Gnome so terrorized two street cops plus a soldier (at three separate locations and on three separate occasions) that two of them had to be temporarily hospitalized on suicide watch.
One of the cops, who had been working the telephones and police radio at headquarters, was discovered hiding under his desk, shaking with fear.
It seems the Gnome had stopped by to pay a social call.
"He said he was here to take me to Hell!" the cop repeated over and over again. "He said he was here to take me to Hell!"
Can you give me link to that story?
The Gnome
Mar 12 2008, 01:20 AM
Sure is weird. It looks like it's a foot or so tall, but is probably a hoax as there are two different videos of said gnome.
D is here
Mar 12 2008, 01:36 AM
Nevermind.....
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The Gnome
Mar 12 2008, 01:40 AM
QUOTE (Jesse Custer @ Mar 11 2008, 03:59 PM)

This youtube account appears to have two different takes for the same incident. Babelfish's rough translation for them reads:
"Fraud of appearance of duende, recorded twice different. This is first/second"
Duende on wikiStill creepy though.
It's kinda hard to sync the two clips up. On a second viewing, I thought maybe one was just a longer take of the other, but the scream at the end is definitely different.
In the first video someone shines a flashlight on it, while in the second on there is no light.
Left Field
Mar 12 2008, 01:41 AM
QUOTE (The Gnome @ Mar 11 2008, 08:20 PM)

Sure is weird. It looks like it's a foot or so tall, but is probably a hoax as there are two different videos of said gnome.
I want that avatar.
OldTimeRadio
Mar 12 2008, 01:49 AM
QUOTE (Teufelhund @ Mar 12 2008, 01:10 AM)

Can you give me link to that story?
Not at the moment. I saved the articles when they were new seven years ago but they're buried on one of 5,000 floppy discs.
However, the story's been in-depth discussed several times since 2001 on fantasticreality@fuse.net, including today as we speak. The moderator, the noted Fortean mythologist Mike Mott, will verify what I've written above.
SilverRain Queen
Mar 12 2008, 02:44 AM
Very interesting video, it looks like a small circus monkey. It could possibly be a small person, regardless, I hope no harm comes to it.
OldTimeRadio
Mar 12 2008, 02:51 AM
QUOTE (SilverRain Queen @ Mar 12 2008, 02:44 AM)

I hope no harm comes to it.
If it's anything like the previous flaps, I hope no harm comes to the witnesses.
tenley
Mar 12 2008, 03:08 AM
QUOTE (Xeaphon @ Mar 11 2008, 06:41 PM)

It is quite strange that everyone was scared. It would be a bit more natural to assume that it was someone with dwarfism or some sort of trick robot. However, with aliens or paranormal beings, witnesses often describe a feeling of unatural terror
I think anything that a person instinctively knew was vastly *different* and *off* from everything he/she knew about intelligent beings/humans here on earth would be scared to death, I think that would be natural and that throughout human history even if it's a human that is only slightly weird in beliefs or looks that's enough to terrify most people and make them extremely suspicious and even tending toward the violent. It's not usually human nature to be just benign and curious (not a nice thing to say but it's true, and probably goes back to pure instincts, the fight or flight impulse when something is unknown and thus potentially dangerous instinctively if not intellectually so, or should I say, one would WISH the instinct would be to be intellectually curious but in situations like this that very likely would not be the first instinct, instead it would be purely raw -- in this case akin to terror.). (As for your comment about witnesses describing a feeling of unnatural terror with aliens or paranormal beings -- I don't have anything to say if you are implying that this thing is alien or paranormal, all I'd note is that the INSTINCT TOWARD UNNATURAL TERROR might be rooted in the same place I just described, that being the terror instinct as opposed to intellectual curiousity that is fairly common in humans when confronted with something vastly different and off from what is expected or known).
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