I thought these were interesting but it's far fetched! But it got me to thinking! It talks about how most of us are brain washed and we're so easily manipulated and controlled. It talks about how our governments are evil and it goes back thousands of years how they're setting a plan to enslave us all as a human race so they can have full power over us. We're all apart of some experiment and we're only used to be slaves of something.. Watch the clips and let's discuss.. It's crazy but I mean is it possible that there's more to our lives that meets the eye??? Is it possible that everything the media portrays to be crazy or nonsense actually a reality??? Even if this is not real.. it's still pretty cool clips to watch and it gets you to think!

S.S.2 (1) Alien skulls and dropa stones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcheazhs6S4...feature=related

S.S.2 (2) Alien Rock painting?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zAjK3TiWck...feature=related

S.S.2 (3) Nazca Lines & Telepathic Aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvjtRSTArm4...feature=related

S.S.2 (4) Reptilians (The Hathor history)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_fphqMSDQs...feature=related

S.S.2 (5)Masonic Reptilian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_NE0WLyz9o...feature=related

S.S.2(6)Invasion of Sky Gods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsuuDgcLXy8...feature=related

S.S.2(7)Reptilian art and history?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5oKCYfYmYs...feature=related

The Illuminati and the New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89SB59DT34

The New World Order is Here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpMdTmVMpo...feature=related

Also check out this guys page.. He talks a lot about how our governments are deceiving us now...

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheForerunner777

Enjoy! I'm going to do a lot of research on this.. This really got me to thinking... I'm not saying I believe in this but it's good to look at things from a different perspective. It's kind of scary to think that the reality we're so comfortable and know may actually be a fantasy...

Scary, but necessary to realize. But don't necessarily believe everything you read about "evil" aliens either. Even in WW2 and other wars, there are always rebels and defectors within the enemy's ranks that want to help the oppressed. And if they turn out to be good anyhow, then we still win.

You do realize that not everything on YOUTUBE is proof of anything, right?

Vast conspiracy theories and huge secret agendas have been discussed for centuries. They are great fun, but come on, they are nothing more than idle fantasies. Scapegoats for folks that can't be arsed to be responsible for themselves.

In a world filled with so much deception it's hard to believe the truth anymore. Nine times out of ten, the truth is usually 'unbelievable'. I like to keep a balance of skeptism and facts. If I can't believe something to be true, I don't rule it out, but merely shelf it, time always proves what is the truth in the end. Meanwhile... Annie get yer gun and hide the food! LOL

I never stated it was proof lol. IT'S SOMETHING TO PONDER AND TO GET YOUR MIND THINKING.. I just want to see everyone's opinions on it.. I just think the whole story is interesting.. What if there's more than meets the eye to our lives?I simply posted this topic to get people to think.. Even if the information is false.. I mean could there be a possibility that we're a very dumb species incapable of thinking on our own without people doing the thinking and doing things for us?? because quite frankly our governments can lie and say anything they want and we'll just nod our heads and agree... Most of you don't even know what's going on in our world... American governments are evil I believe.. This was the same country that actually allowed the SLAVERY of blacks back in the day in the south. Something is not right and their behind something shady I personally believe.

Just look at these and do your research on it!! I want you to actually go to a library and internet and read!

AMERICANS JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN!! - IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNAEYQkD3s


U.S. GOVT. TORCHES CALIFORNIA TO COVER-UP NEW LAW?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxEiOrqNHHs

A Dose Of Reality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZkJrniCjW8



If you think about it we all sit on our little comfortable homes not pondering where the hell we came from and we'll just believe anything someone throws at us.At the moment I'm guilty of doing that, but you know what? I'm going to do my own research,I'm going to get books and I'm going to learn all I can. I want people to actually do research and find out things for themselves instead of being lazy and think you know everything when it's quite possible that we don't.

Like I said.. there was a time this country allowed slavery and discrimination of blacks!! Does that sound like a people that really have our best interest at heart regardless of a race or sexuality? I'm going to do my research.. the lizard,reptilian thing is far fetched but I do think something is not right...

Howard Beale : Turn off your television sets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4szU19bQVE

Welcom Supreme Being its a wild wild world in here " Bing Bota Bing" DONTEATUS

Where are these concentrationcamps?

And still, regarding the U.S law and wellfare-system and most of the american society in general, i find it sick, i allways found it sick, and it keeps gettin worse. The worst is our own country here is also going backwards because our minister wants to imitate bush. NO GOOD!.

their probably the ones that actually made us in the first place.

hmmmm... wel yes, the peoples morale in general is also wrong. that is what went wrong here anyway, people over here are also starting to get more selfcentered and more noncaring towards others. And i don't like thinking about what kind of country this here would be if we either lower the taxes further, or simply cut them off

we could all take a little common sence and start to look at all things on this earth with respect and do a lot of healing,well its a thought.DONTEATUS

We still have the religion freaks on Earth to deal with though...
Not saying religion is bad,just saying that if u view everything through religion goggles like we did through the years 1100-1800,things get kind of messed up.

I'm still researching and learning things.. I wonder if 9/11 was just a setup?? Look at these links very interesting...

Theforbiddenknowledge
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/wtc/index02.htm

Bombing of the world trade center
http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm

September 11th 2001 Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNNTcHq5Tzk

In numerology.. 11 is a very powerful number.. If you look at the twin towers it looks like the number 11 & 2 .. the numbers 11 & 2 are very powerful numbers. Numerology plays a lot in our lives, believe it or not.. People dial 911 for help..... Hints why....

9/11 = 9 + 1 + 1 = "11"

9/11/2001 there goes the 9/11 thing again... weird huh?

Mayans 11 Spectral.. represents peace...
http://www.mayantimes.com/zpages/11.htm

Mayan Astrology
http://www.mayantimes.com/Mayan%20%20calendar.htm

Mayan Tzolkin.. Number system... looks like it's DNA of somesort going by a number system
http://www.mayantimes.com/large%20tzolkin.htm

Look at the picture!
http://waligorski.net/twin_towers_pre_911.jpg

11:11 Digital Time Code
http://www.crystalinks.com/11.11.html

What's real freaky about me is that according the Mayans I was born on 11 spectral day and my full name in numerology balances out to a perfect 11...

11 Master Number
http://www.in-depth-numerology.com/about-n...er-numbers.html

Numerology Master Number 11
http://www.numerologyguide.com/numerology/...-master-numbers

11 represents peace but what happened when the twin towers collasped.. peace ceased and we went straight into war.

Numbers and their meanings...
http://www.crystalinks.com/numerology2.html




I'm digging deeper into things... I don't know everything yet but hopefully I'm going to get some pieces of this puzzle together. Something is definitely hidden from us.. it's time we all start researching before we wind up some place or somewhere that could have us all in danger. It's very scary to see so many of us sit back and think we're free and comfortable and that the people over us have their best interest at heart.. It's scary..

I in no way say I am right! However things are getting freaky for me as I'm about to embark on this journey to find the real meaning of life... I'm going to do some serious soul searching...

Good point...you didn't.

And again, I think these links and this type of 'research' is fun...and makes great reading material, much the same way a good novel does. But, there is an inherent danger in folks taking it for more than what it is. A huge percentage is some devious way to seperate you from your wallet, and another large percentage are from disturbed folks with a penchant for drama.

But anyhow, with that said, I'm going to dive right into some of this stuff....Thanks for the links!

Yawn.

Another pseudo-conspiracy post that whacks everything from numerology to 9/11 to reptiles into it, without really researching any of it past that "Metropolis of the Stupid" youtube, and drawing absolutely no conclusions whatsoever.

It isn't "interesting", or "fun" any more I'm afraid. Throw a rock in here and you'll hit one of these threads. And please, throw it hard.

Sorry you didn't find it interesting.. but then again we're all different and have different views on things.. That's what makes us humans interesting & unique. All of us have different viewpoints,different beliefs,different races.. different everything.. you get my point lol.If we all thought and act the same way... the world would be very boring. I respect your opinion without resorting to calling someone else's opinion stupid which I found was very immature and disrespectful on your part. You obviously didn't read what I said... I am going to do research on this. Also if you didn't find it interesting.. what was your purpose of posting?? To make fun of someone's ideas?? It's a free country you can post what you want,but what was the general reason of you posting, to make fun? That sounds very mature. But like I said I respect your opinion.. you have your own thought processes.. can't knock you for thinking average.

Yeah my post is far fetched but this is my thing.. I like to make out of the ordinary posts to get people to think! NOO I didn't just get all of this from youtube.. I'm actually going to research this stuff and come to my own conclusions. Meaning I don't really believe this alien stuff either but the clips that I provided does make me want to research on these topics to learn more and see what I can come up with. Did I say that there are alien reptiles out there... No I didn't state that there were but it could be a possibility. I mean stranger things have happened on earth. Have you ever asked yourself is there more to life than what we see.. Or do you think we've experienced everything known to man and there's no use for exploring new things because there's nothing new to explore. Why is it that we human beings throw out something simply because it doesn't fit with our boring usual logic that nothing out of the ordinary can happens.

Emma_Acid_88... have you done any research?I want you to post some things to correct me that the possibility of alien life is stupid.. Ok why don't you read on this too! Read up on books.. search for these topics. Learn all you can. I want you to tell me why all of this is silly.. No I don't want to hear you give me a light answer... umm because it's stupid.. Throw the facts at me.. prove me wrong! Why is all of this stupid??? Where's the proof that what I'm stating is not true.. Like I said this is a forum for debate so I'm ready to debate and talk! I love topics like this... This is what I want.


People are missing my point, everyone wants concrete proof but wouldn't it be interesting to research and try to figure stuff on your own. Instead of waiting like a zombie to hear on the news of something like this happening. Also... do you really think the people over us are going to be 100% honest with us over everything??? Do you really think that they would tell us alien beings exist.. especially when there's a possibility of them working together to harm us. Never stated it was a fact but if you want truth.. seek it for yourself.. That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying that I'm right or wrong on my topics.. I maybe wrong...fine but let's discuss this matter. Prove me wrong or prove me right?

Quick question.. Do you think the Egyptians,Mayans,Sumerians,The Nazca indians were all lying when they said they were visisted by gods?? Why do you think they were lying and why is it that every culture is very similar with the stories.. heck you can find pyramids all over the world, ok a lot of the pyramids may not exactly resemble one another but most of the buildings resemble pyramids. Why would all of these ancient cultures make up stories about being visited by gods?? Every culture and time period almost have exactly the same stories...

Explain the UFO's in paintings & ancient art...

http://lithiumdreamer.tripod.com/ufoart.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

These are really interesting...

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_1_eng.htm

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_2_eng.htm

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_3.htm

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_4.htm

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_5_eng.htm

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_6.htm

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_7.htm

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_8.htm

http://www.aliensthetruth.com/Aliens.php?ID=43&view=1

when looking at these things i allways end up with this picture as the most interesting




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I just find it interesting that there is something in it that resembles our solarsystem. I'm not saying that it does depict the solarsystem, but it is really interesting if it does because my guess would be that not all of the planets could be spotted here from earth without the use of some really great optics. I can't remember if the sumerians had, and i am not even sure of the genuinity of this tablet. Does anyone know if it is real? and if, does anyone know the story behind it? because i've been searching for it for a long time now without finding anything

Finally somebody wants to discuss something without bashing or knocking an idea.. Refreshing!

I may be wrong about the Aliens, they maybe a friendly race but I think it's very possible that they are real and they have been here for years hiding..

Anyway back on your quote.. It's clear that you do see a solar system and some planets. This is coming from an ancient culture! How would they be able to know about the planets and stars back then without some outside help??Unless they were just as advance as we are when it comes to technology which I doubt.

Even if it doesn't represent our solar system.. it's clear that it does represent a sun and some planets hmmmm...


I also found this pic interesting...

http://www.redicecreations.com/specialrepo...an/annunaki.jpg

You see two people looking up and you can see people on what appears to be an aircraft of some sort.. I maybe wrong.. But that's interesting also!

Uh Marcus, you are aware that the Sprezzatura links offer explanations other than UFOs for the objects portrayed in these paintings (?). Frankly, some would label these links as "debunking" the alien space craft explanation.

I've also found that tablet interesting, Also because of some of the round opjects floating around in that one too:P

But i am sure they didn't have the technology to spot them, as far as i have read the babylonians started discovering astrology and was capable of drawing simple maps of the stars and a little bit of the planets without the awareness of that it was planets. But the funny thing with the sumerians is that it shows what appears to be an actual solar system yes (with one planet missing i think, or else i don't know my solarsystem.). No one has found evidence of them having those clear optics, and at that time the planets should have been further away from the sun if you ask me (but don't hang me up on this, i am a little stupid!) because of the suns gravitationalpull that keeps us in orbit, and therefore some of the outer planets should have been lesser visible if i'm right. Also at one of the tablets you see what appears to be a DNA-string. I'll try and find it

Ahhhhh... now i found an explanation from both sides of the people studying old sumeria. And i also learned that i am either too impatient or blind, cause the answer was allways right under my nose:P


http://images.google.dk/imgres?imgurl=http...l%3Dda%26sa%3DN


I hope the link works

i could not agree more Emma. Its fun up to a point, then it becomes sickening.

Both of you must agree it's funny seeing people sh**ing their pants of fear from being killed by aliens?

Good post Emma_Acid_88.

I must admit there are some around here who seem to have never met a conspiracy they didnt like! I refer to them as "credulous"... people who will believe literally anything. It never ceases to amaze me how irrational some folks can be.

Firstly, everything you mentioned as been done to death, especially the whole reptillian thing. Its been proven to be utter rubbish. Do a search on it. That is why I can't be bothered to argue with you, I've done it so many times before.

Secondly, your research consists of youtube and a website that isn't even in English. Brilliant. Again, not worth arguing with.

As for proof, where is your proof? It isn't down to us to prove you wrong, its down to you to prove you right. Its called Burden Of Proof and again has been covered here before ad nauseam, so I won't go into it again.

I don't know how much you have read about this, but sometimes there is atlk of up to 14 races being here on earth trying to control us. But the genuinity of everything there is talk about is highly discussible, so i won't throw myself wholeheartedly into it but see it as plausible instead and then just wait to see how enlightened i'll be in 2012

*bangs head against desk and considers never ever coming back here*

lol @ Emma Acid 88 we need to all bang a little on the desk,its a way to wake up for some. Im hearing you on the over kill on the aleins that are here already and if they were to harm us theres lots of us to harm ,maybe a good thing? thin the stk At over $200 a seat for the new Cowboys tickets we could use some thinning and price compition LoL DONTEATUS

well if you don't like what say stay away. But there is no reason either denying it or say it is the truth, the guys give you a date, and if nothing happens on the date they gave us, then that is how it is. It would be funny to see what you would do if it actually turned out to be true:P

I know right these same people who are being so negative are going to be the same people crying and losing their minds "IF" something happens in 2012.


What's the point of these people posting on here if you don't have anything good to say?? That's being ignorant and acting immature.. just because you don't agree with something you have to poke fun and belittle it. How old are most of you guys on here 5 years old??? I mean seriously and yet these same people on here haven't given me any EVIDENCE to prove me wrong.Agreed I don't have evidence as of yet but I'm trying to figure out a puzzle.

Like I said, they have a right to their opinions but most of them say things in such a childish immature manner is what bothers me. They talk about my theories being dumb but they can't say it in a more mature manner with discussion... funny.

Great.. if you think it's boring and stupid.. Simply exit my thread.. No one is asking you to stay on here lol. There's thousands of other threads you can read on the internet. Why not find one that you enjoy?? I mean you said my thread is sickening, so why are you continuing to make yourself sick over my boring thread?

I never said believe in any of these conspiracies or theories.. It's good to THINK about different possibilities.. Everyone on here concludes that we are saying this as the truth... don't sit there and put words and our mouths. This forum is simply for speculation.. Sheesh some of you people can't comprehend and read!

What's even more dumb is people thinking they know it all about this earth we live in... Can you honestly say that we know everything there is to know. Do you think people would tell you anything about our history and be 100% truthful?

Hehe... sometimes i'm also pretty amazed, and what has amazed me the most is that i also do it sometimes:P But heck, that is what you do when you really believe something and people have another opinion. But i must also add that i understand why people are reacting to this thread as they do since we have around a 1000 of them in here, not that i say it is bad you opened this one, because i like sharing opinions, but this place gets too messy if people don't think before they open topics. But while we are at it (with the fear of people going COMPLETELY nuts now:D), have you read the lacerda files?

Do you seriously think people are going to take the trouble to *learn* something contrary what they want to believe when it's so much easier to shut down your brain and parrot what somebody else has already written?

Seriously: when the last time you saw somebody here actually take the time to write a coherent article, source it, and open it up to debate? No, what you get is a list of links to somebody else's web site, or a link to a youtube video somebody else wrote and directed.

--Jaylemurph

No, but doesn't prove your points at all. Reality is still realtiy.

Well i for one think we have enough myths and legends around the world, so i think it is good that not everybody starts making their own all the time. But still it could be nice to see something new even though i can't make up anything:P

Oh, I agree: I have far less of a problem -- hardly at all, really -- with some genuinely new story. What's tiresome is the 265th person to come up with the planet Nibiru, 67,391rst person to come up with magical reptile people from the dawn of time or the 18th person to come up a Hollow-Earth theory and say they put it together for the first time from the Ancient Texts of Hoo-Hoo-Haa-Haa from Mu. I mean, if they're going to be cranks, they can at least take the trouble to learn they're not original.

--Jaylemurph

Yup, you're right there:P

Kind of exciting too.....that the reality we're so comfortable with may actually be one of a few
'available' fantasies/realities.....

Hi Marcus.....good for you....that you want to look at things from a different perspective...and
examine different SPECULATIONS.

My mind is spinning at the moment because I'm going through the Dan Burisch Interviews
on YouTube. I've watched 4 so far....the Camelot Project ones. I want to highly recommend them
to you....(and anyone else who enjoys a good dose of mind-expanding ideas/speculation and whatnot)

I am aware that Burisch has been called a liar and a fantasist......BUT.....wouldn't anyone who is
'spilling the beans'?

In the age of the internet we are practically drowning in information and disinformation. So at some
point we have to put our own mind on a (possible) 'truth' scan.......and make judgements....FEEL it
out.

Letting something into one's mind and allowing it to circle and ferment as a real possibility....is not
the way everyone operates. Tentatively accepting or rejecting after the fermentation...is a process
of self-education......and you, Marcus.....have obviously got your mind on full-scan mode. I salute
you for this.
So.....you want some more....you want a real, strong.....blast?

Go to YouTube and search....Dan Burisch Interviews.....and enjoy.

(sorry if you've included the above in your links and I didn't notice)

This Burisch character i'm sure he's not all there if ya know what i'm say'n, just a little 'too' smug i think hmmm...
Outta curiosity tho i checked out part 1 only, he can't be for real lol! no way. ''Humanoid Aliens (versions of ourselves) visiting us from 45 thousand years in the future showing us what we're gonna look like''!? He claims he saw em at a conference (T9) with other colleagues just standing there walki'n the walk & talk'n the talk when or is that really if he was with Majestic 12...come on.

It's neither confirmed nor denied but this could well be an actual photo secretly smugged outta that Majestic T'9' conference...

Part one is just the beginning of the Burisch journey....part 2, 3 + 4.....gets even MORE 'unbelievable'

But.....just because it's TOTALLY difficult to consider.....that doesn't mean that it's a complete fabrication.
In my opinion.

It IS.....by far....the most difficult stuff that I have ever seen/heard in regards to giving it the 'What, just WHAT
if this is true?' treatment.....

Just the first...shorter interview video. (the Camelot ones)....isn't enough to settle into the ABSOLUTELY
mind boggling things he is saying/relating(?).
True or not? Possible or not? I'm new to Dan Burisch....BUT....after watching 4 videos (so far)
I get the feeling he is a 'good' man. This is my judgement of him....from the videos.....but you have
to settle into him...give him a proper chance.....




Just spotted your next post and pic. Rebel......that is SO amusing...love it....! Ain't they sweet??
(errr maybe not 'sweet' exactly....... )

Ahh, the Disclosure Movement... From my own brief experience, it would seem that the 'movement' has splintered (quite probably due to infighting and differences of opinion regarding exopolotics and disclosees in general) since Greer's original conference, and is now a few different factions that view each other with mistrust, labelling their rivals as agents of dis/misinformation.
And they all have the hide to tell the rest of us that we've not evolved enough of an enviromental and social conscience for ET to feel that we're ready to accept him.
Reminds me of an old Cheech and Chong skit about a tracker identifying bear **it in a snow storm (smells like it, feels like it, tastes like it, must be it then). Anywhere else, and we'd call it religion.

@Rebel. lol You're a very bad man

Well.....that doesn't surprise me.....the Disclosure Movement....would automatically be infiltrated...
to weaken it from the inside.....split it into factions....that would then waste time and energy with
in-fighting. I'm no expert...but I suspect this would be a 'classic' and well practised method of the intelligence services.
Would it not?

I don't know if Dan Burisch is part of the Disclosure Movement....or not....just happened upon his
interviews a couple of days ago....via another site.

I think it is necessary to watch the interviews before publically judging and dismissing the man....and
what he says. It's VERY difficult stuff to CONSIDER....not everyone will even WANT to consider it. And that
is fair enough....but for those who do....it's on YouTube...the Dan Burisch Interviews.

Oh....and Rebel.....maybe you....might be more into the 'Nordic ETs'.....
Blue-eyed blonds.....from...............................................52,000 years in the future....
A lot more attractive, physically....I suspect....than the rather weedy looking greys in your picture
that was smuggled out of the conference....

...or maybe they just forgot the agreed-upon story.

--Jaylemurph

Wheres the smart ones when you need them?

Which is pretty much about the size of it. Egos and infighting at the top. The rest of the flock following their personal messiah to a new hill. No infiltration at all, since that would imply that the disclosure movement (by that I mean any group that presents itself as such, not just Greer's Disclosure Project.org) was actually making an impact on the general population and potentially undermining the authority of the state (which it's not).

As for Dan Burisch

Well here's what Michael Salla (friendly according to Camelot, pawn of misinformation to Disclosure Project-Greer doesn't agree with his exopolitical view point. Labels it as xenopolitics) has to say

Full Article here Link
Another article Link

Yes Virginia, both Gulf Wars have been a cover for gaining access to stargate technology in Iraq.

And for a guy who's in 'lock down' and disclosing highly sensitive information he sure gets around on the net...

Website that Dan seems to be directly involved with Link

Dan Burisch info website Link

That website's old forum Link
Interesting to see a lot of bible quotes floating around there...

And two very real Lotus Projects (neither of which has to do with stargates)
The Lotus Children's Project Mongolia
The Lotus Project

And now for some debunking-
Seems the pro Dan forum bans anyone who raises any question of doubt of anyone involved in the 'project' Link


How odd that the site that Dan seems to be directly involved in is selling "Dan's Debriefing DVD vol.1". Yep no incentive for profit there...

Source Link
Ah the almighty get out of jail free card. Not only do we have the "if these things fail to come to pass, it's because the looking glass shows all possibilities" excuse, but we also have one that covers our a**es should "at some point we get our stories mixed up, and contradict ourselves."

And why would super advanced beings who've mastered time and space travel, as well as genetic engineering, need to go back in time to consult a primitive scientist to fix a genetic disease that's wiping them out.
Kind of like us finding a prehistoric shaman to give us a cure for AIDS or cancer, isn't it?

Then there's the Ganesh particle research...
Why would the US Military be interested in that kind of research? There's really no military application for anti-aging drugs or therapy...

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