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bogcreeper
Has there been anyone here that has ever seen a shadow person, or know of someone that has? Some people have asked me what a bogcreeper is and this is exactly what it is. There is a bog in my area that people go to and keep their car lights on trying to get a glimpse of what they say are darker than dark ghosts that live (or die) in that area. If you do research on the shadow people you will find all kinds of information. Hat man refers to the shape that some people see. A few years ago a child here in the county kept telling others that she was seeing a dark man with a hat on in her room at night. When I finally did research on this years ago, it gave me chills. Also Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louiville Kentucky is notorias for this phenomenon. I have actually looked for them a couple of times with no success, but I did not try too hard. Since the bog is below my house you'd think I'd try a little more.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
I beleive this should actually go more under the ghost/hauntings/paranormal category than the crypto area. But, anyway....

Shadow people are a fairly common phenomenon. They are very commonly reported with, like you said, what looks like a wide brimmed hat, a long trench coat, red eyes, and usually accompanied by a feeling of fear/dread/panic, even before they are even spotted. They are said to exist outside of the laws of physics, as they are seen moving through walls, floating, sinking into the ground, or simply shrinking until the disappear, and they tend to shy away from light, and usually "run" away when spotted.
I've have actually talked with several people who have experienced these things, and believe I myself might have experienced one before. I sat in on a lecture from a woman who is supposedly an "expert" on shadow people, and got alot of info on them.
There seem to be pretty much 2 types, ones that are in peoples homes, and ones that lurk on the edge of forests/wooded areas, which seems to be the type you are dealing with.
No one actually knows what these things are. Most people associate them with ghost/hauntings, however, they are so different from "traditional" hauntings, that they are quickly becoming their own branch of paranormal studies. Their are many theories as to what these things could be, ranging from ghosts, to demons, to imps, to cloaked aliens of some type, to government spies(yeah, I know).
Whatever they are, reports of them seem to be increasing, and photographs and videos of them seem to be becoming more and more frequent.
Orcseeker
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 14 2008, 04:59 AM) *
I beleive this should actually go more under the ghost/hauntings/paranormal category than the crypto area. But, anyway....

Shadow people are a fairly common phenomenon. They are very commonly reported with, like you said, what looks like a wide brimmed hat, a long trench coat, red eyes, and usually accompanied by a feeling of fear/dread/panic, even before they are even spotted. They are said to exist outside of the laws of physics, as they are seen moving through walls, floating, sinking into the ground, or simply shrinking until the disappear, and they tend to shy away from light, and usually "run" away when spotted.
I've have actually talked with several people who have experienced these things, and believe I myself might have experienced one before. I sat in on a lecture from a woman who is supposedly an "expert" on shadow people, and got alot of info on them.
There seem to be pretty much 2 types, ones that are in peoples homes, and ones that lurk on the edge of forests/wooded areas, which seems to be the type you are dealing with.
No one actually knows what these things are. Most people associate them with ghost/hauntings, however, they are so different from "traditional" hauntings, that they are quickly becoming their own branch of paranormal studies. Their are many theories as to what these things could be, ranging from ghosts, to demons, to imps, to cloaked aliens of some type, to government spies(yeah, I know).
Whatever they are, reports of them seem to be increasing, and photographs and videos of them seem to be becoming more and more frequent.

have any of these vids been uploaded on a vid hosting site? thanks in advance
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Orcseeker @ Mar 14 2008, 08:58 AM) *
have any of these vids been uploaded on a vid hosting site? thanks in advance



I'm sure they have, but I could not tell you where. I've have only seen them when coming across them by chance, of on TV. I've never actually looked for them online.
Undeadskeptic
This is a ghosty type mystery, not a cryptid.
bogcreeper
Who are all of you people that keep saying that this is a ghost type post? Do you have proof that these things are spirits? Yes I could have put them in that catagory, but I do not believe them to be dead. Is there any proof that they are not living? I am here to learn, and what I am learning is that a minute few here only leave pesty replies. Give me some info!! Some of it I probably have already studied, but leave it anyway. I do not want to sound negative, I do enjoy your replies, but just as that little old lady said back in the 80's "wheres the beef?"
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Mar 14 2008, 09:53 AM) *
Who are all of you people that keep saying that this is a ghost type post? Do you have proof that these things are spirits? Yes I could have put them in that catagory, but I do not believe them to be dead. Is there any proof that they are not living? I am here to learn, and what I am learning is that a minute few here only leave pesty replies. Give me some info!! Some of it I probably have already studied, but leave it anyway. I do not want to sound negative, I do enjoy your replies, but just as that little old lady said back in the 80's "wheres the beef?"


I did actually post quite a bit of info further up, and explained in that info that this falls under the paranormal studies category. Don't take it personally, that is just the category that shadow people fall under. Nobody is knocking you for anything, just making a slight correction.
If you want some good info, including pics, just google "shadow people". You'll get alot of info.
Undeadskeptic
I wasn't intending to insult you creeper.
bogcreeper
QUOTE (Undeadskeptic @ Mar 14 2008, 09:24 AM) *
I wasn't intending to insult you creeper.

none taken man, been having a bad day.
Undeadskeptic
Yeah, I know what you mean, I hate bad days, but they seem to be growing more and more numerous. Although, considering its 4:00 in the morning and Im tired as hell I shouldn't really complain.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Undeadskeptic @ Mar 14 2008, 09:57 AM) *
Yeah, I know what you mean, I hate bad days, but they seem to be growing more and more numerous. Although, considering its 4:00 in the morning and Im tired as hell I shouldn't really complain.


Any day that I actually have to get up and go to work is a bad day. I just need to hurry up and win the lottery, so I can start having some good days.
UnHappyPrincess
Bogcreeper,
if you truly wish to hear more about the shadows
i can tell you all i know
they have haunted me since i was three
im seventeen now
i still see them
i seem to attract them
please ask me anything
and my opion is
they are dead who live again

its hard to explain
but one of them was my grandmother
i never met her she died
when my dad was five
but i often used to sppeak of her and to her
when i was young
my dad was terrified
because i knew her name and what she looked like
its some sort of life a new life
OldTimeRadio
QUOTE (UnHappyPrincess @ Mar 14 2008, 06:50 PM) *
....my opion is they are dead who live again....


So are you saying that there's no difference between shadow people and ghosts?
foxgirl
My mom and i have seen a shadow person before at my old old house. Worse part about the whole thing is that everytime on a certain date it would come and say hi to me by harrassing me for the whole day and night. It appeared after my nana died. It has appeared on my nana's birthday every year.
Sweetsalem82103
You know the interesting thing is that there seems to be a few different types of shadow people. Some are thought to be like ghosts, only we are not "picking up" the image very well, so it looks like a shadow. However, I don't believe THOSE types of shadow people are the same as the other type. . .which are the ones that are said to apparently "watch" people, and then, when noticed, run off. Those types are the ones that most people say they feel a great amount of fear before seeing them. I find it rather amusing that they supposively run off. I'd chase after them. lol. I could just see myself. . . laugh.gif
WEREGIRL666
i have a pic of a few
bogcreeper
QUOTE (Sweetsalem82103 @ Mar 19 2008, 01:29 PM) *
You know the interesting thing is that there seems to be a few different types of shadow people. Some are thought to be like ghosts, only we are not "picking up" the image very well, so it looks like a shadow. However, I don't believe THOSE types of shadow people are the same as the other type. . .which are the ones that are said to apparently "watch" people, and then, when noticed, run off. Those types are the ones that most people say they feel a great amount of fear before seeing them. I find it rather amusing that they supposively run off. I'd chase after them. lol. I could just see myself. . . laugh.gif

In most of my experiences with the "bogcreeper" I just turned my head and went back to sleep. I have had two experiences where I stared the S.O.B down. One time I blinked and it was gone, the other time I kind of flipped out after a couple of seconds and bolted. It is also interesting to note that according to some paranormal investigators that I know and their equipment, that I give off different energy than others. Has anyone else on this forum ever heard or witnessed something like this. I am very skeptical of it, but the wideness of their eyes told me something is screwy.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Sweetsalem82103 @ Mar 19 2008, 01:29 PM) *
You know the interesting thing is that there seems to be a few different types of shadow people. Some are thought to be like ghosts, only we are not "picking up" the image very well, so it looks like a shadow. However, I don't believe THOSE types of shadow people are the same as the other type. . .which are the ones that are said to apparently "watch" people, and then, when noticed, run off. Those types are the ones that most people say they feel a great amount of fear before seeing them. I find it rather amusing that they supposively run off. I'd chase after them. lol. I could just see myself. . . laugh.gif

I would also, however, they supposedly move VERY fast, and move through walls. Makes it kind of hard to follow them.

QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Mar 19 2008, 01:57 PM) *
In most of my experiences with the "bogcreeper" I just turned my head and went back to sleep. I have had two experiences where I stared the S.O.B down. One time I blinked and it was gone, the other time I kind of flipped out after a couple of seconds and bolted. It is also interesting to note that according to some paranormal investigators that I know and their equipment, that I give off different energy than others. Has anyone else on this forum ever heard or witnessed something like this. I am very skeptical of it, but the wideness of their eyes told me something is screwy.


I actually have the same thing. The PI team that I work for has to keep EMF detectors away from me. I have such a high bioelectricity, that the EMF meters usually show anywhere from a 1.5 to a 5 on the meter. I've known this for along time though. I discovered many years ago that digital watches/pagers/cell phones will die within a couple of hours of me "wearing" them on me somewhere. I also figured out as a child, that I could hold on to the AC plug from a strobe light, charge it up, and make it flash. It's a great party trick.
bogcreeper
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 19 2008, 02:18 PM) *
I would also, however, they supposedly move VERY fast, and move through walls. Makes it kind of hard to follow them.



I actually have the same thing. The PI team that I work for has to keep EMF detectors away from me. I have such a high bioelectricity, that the EMF meters usually show anywhere from a 1.5 to a 5 on the meter. I've known this for along time though. I discovered many years ago that digital watches/pagers/cell phones will die within a couple of hours of me "wearing" them on me somewhere. I also figured out as a child, that I could hold on to the AC plug from a strobe light, charge it up, and make it flash. It's a great party trick.

Sweet! I do not know if my bioelectrical readings are that high, but I have killed cell phones and cannot wear quartz watches. They quit within days.
Masked Tragedy
Shadow people have been the subject to various believers and skeptics alike. I in my opinion do not know what they are, but I know they are real. I have had many encounters, which usually lead me to run away and slam the door. Something about them scares me crapless. I really think that they are spying on our lives out of envy or curiosity.
bogcreeper
QUOTE (Drayno Helvey @ Mar 19 2008, 02:37 PM) *
Shadow people have been the subject to various believers and skeptics alike. I in my opinion do not know what they are, but I know they are real. I have had many encounters, which usually lead me to run away and slam the door. Something about them scares me crapless. I really think that they are spying on our lives out of envy or curiosity.

you know I havent really met anyone who has tried to communicate with them. They could just need a friend and running away just hurts their feelings.
agattuso milanisti
Wow never heard about them before
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Mar 19 2008, 02:45 PM) *
you know I havent really met anyone who has tried to communicate with them. They could just need a friend and running away just hurts their feelings.


Actually, I know of several people who have tried to communicate with them. None of them has ever gotten any type of response out of them.
And usually, they are the ones that run away from us, usually before people get a chance to run away from them.

Wanna hear something pretty freaky?? This is why, to me, shadow people are the only paranormal phenomenon that scares me.
OK, you know that shadow people are reported to be able to walk through walls. And they are reported to almost always just be watching people, just usually standing, and observing, until they "run" away, and usually in the dark, when people are in bed.
Well, a couple of incidents that have been reported were the ones the freaked me out. The people reported that they were laying in bed, and that the headboard of there bed was, of course, up against a wall. They either woke up, or were already awake, and when they opened their eyes, there was a shadow person, hanging halfway out of the wall, leaning over the headboard of their bed, and leaning over to be right in front of their face. So, they open their eyes, and there is this shadow person literally inches in front of your face, and they simply just lean back up and disappear through the wall.
Sorry, but that would absolutely make me want to soil myself right there on the spot. I've seen one shadow person, I beleive, once before, from a distance, and that terrified me. Opening your eyes and having one right in front of my face would just make me lose it.
Super_Sasquatch
Maybe they are especially tortured spirits? Or some shred of life left over from the person's previous existence that has not yet passed on. I haven't heard much about them, but they don't seem to cheeky to me.
Nik Xues
ive seen three of these "shades".

first time there was one sitting on the foot of my bed.

second i was working and it simply swooped acoss the street.
third again working this time it swept around the car.

ironically my town is just a huge swamp on the canadian sheild.

but anyway from my sightings ive gathered a view factors that keep me sceptical.

1 i was half asleep every time
2 after further thought they moved where i looked


i assume the logical explanation is they are a simple visual glitch like an ant on a camera lens.

although this is an interesting topic to further research. im up to it if some one can relay a good site my way.

books also good.
Undeadskeptic
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 15 2008, 05:23 AM) *
Any day that I actually have to get up and go to work is a bad day. I just need to hurry up and win the lottery, so I can start having some good days.


Try 4 8 15 16 23 42 ...
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Undeadskeptic @ Mar 21 2008, 11:46 AM) *
Try 4 8 15 16 23 42 ...

You know, I think I am going to try that, just for the hell of it. If I win, I'll send you a share!!
Asphodel
667-Neighbor of the Beast, your shadow person example nearly made me soil myself NOW. laugh.gif

I was 15, laying down to sleep in my dimly lit room. As I glanced up to check my clock I saw a shadow man in the corner of my room, staring at me. I was absolutely terrified, but I managed to stare back. The staring bothered him and he dashed out the door, physically swinging it open a bit. He audibly ran through the living room, the kitchen, and down the stairs into the basement. For some reason he came back upstairs after a very short while. I regained my composure before going downstairs to tell my mom about what happened. She thought that it was me on the stairs when it was really the shadow man, so I wasn't the only witness to the event. Luckily, she's the kind of person who would believe me anyway. He felt distinctly masculine and was of a very average height and build. I don't think he was anything other than a human spirit.

My room felt very strange and uncomfortable the night before last. Frankly, I was afraid to open my eyes. Now I'm irrationally wondering if I would have opened my eyes I'd have seen him gazing at me inches from my face. crying.gif
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Mar 21 2008, 05:25 PM) *
667-Neighbor of the Beast, your shadow person example nearly made me soil myself NOW. laugh.gif

I was 15, laying down to sleep in my dimly lit room. As I glanced up to check my clock I saw a shadow man in the corner of my room, staring at me. I was absolutely terrified, but I managed to stare back. The staring bothered him and he dashed out the door, physically swinging it open a bit. He audibly ran through the living room, the kitchen, and down the stairs into the basement. For some reason he came back upstairs after a very short while. I regained my composure before going downstairs to tell my mom about what happened. She thought that it was me on the stairs when it was really the shadow man, so I wasn't the only witness to the event. Luckily, she's the kind of person who would believe me anyway. He felt distinctly masculine and was of a very average height and build. I don't think he was anything other than a human spirit.

My room felt very strange and uncomfortable the night before last. Frankly, I was afraid to open my eyes. Now I'm irrationally wondering if I would have opened my eyes I'd have seen him gazing at me inches from my face. crying.gif


Sounds like what you experienced was just a standard spirit, not necessarily a shadow person.
It seems like alot of people are assuming that shadow people are simply ghosts. The general concensus from the people who have been studying this phenomenon, are that they are in NO way linked to spirits, or hauntings. Spirits can supposedly appear as a dark shadowy figure, but a true "shadow person" has no typical signs of hauntings at all. Psychics cannot feel them, or tell if they are present. There are no EMF readings, temperature changes, smells, sounds, EVP's, or anything associated with them. They are as seperate from ghosts as UFO's are, and are their own branch of paranormal study. If they were just ghosts, they never would have been called shadow people. They simply would have been called ghosts. They seem to be a completely seperate entity, and no one has any explanation as to what the origin of these things are, and why they have only been making appearances recently. There have been very few, if any, reports of them in history, however, in the last 10-15 years, they are a very common occurance
nara
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 20 2008, 08:07 AM) *
Actually, I know of several people who have tried to communicate with them. None of them has ever gotten any type of response out of them.
And usually, they are the ones that run away from us, usually before people get a chance to run away from them.

Wanna hear something pretty freaky?? This is why, to me, shadow people are the only paranormal phenomenon that scares me.
OK, you know that shadow people are reported to be able to walk through walls. And they are reported to almost always just be watching people, just usually standing, and observing, until they "run" away, and usually in the dark, when people are in bed.
Well, a couple of incidents that have been reported were the ones the freaked me out. The people reported that they were laying in bed, and that the headboard of there bed was, of course, up against a wall. They either woke up, or were already awake, and when they opened their eyes, there was a shadow person, hanging halfway out of the wall, leaning over the headboard of their bed, and leaning over to be right in front of their face. So, they open their eyes, and there is this shadow person literally inches in front of your face, and they simply just lean back up and disappear through the wall.
Sorry, but that would absolutely make me want to soil myself right there on the spot. I've seen one shadow person, I beleive, once before, from a distance, and that terrified me. Opening your eyes and having one right in front of my face would just make me lose it.

I just saw a shadow person some 10 min before I got online... huh.gif ...huh...
bogcreeper
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 20 2008, 10:07 AM) *
Actually, I know of several people who have tried to communicate with them. None of them has ever gotten any type of response out of them.
And usually, they are the ones that run away from us, usually before people get a chance to run away from them.

Wanna hear something pretty freaky?? This is why, to me, shadow people are the only paranormal phenomenon that scares me.
OK, you know that shadow people are reported to be able to walk through walls. And they are reported to almost always just be watching people, just usually standing, and observing, until they "run" away, and usually in the dark, when people are in bed.
Well, a couple of incidents that have been reported were the ones the freaked me out. The people reported that they were laying in bed, and that the headboard of there bed was, of course, up against a wall. They either woke up, or were already awake, and when they opened their eyes, there was a shadow person, hanging halfway out of the wall, leaning over the headboard of their bed, and leaning over to be right in front of their face. So, they open their eyes, and there is this shadow person literally inches in front of your face, and they simply just lean back up and disappear through the wall.
Sorry, but that would absolutely make me want to soil myself right there on the spot. I've seen one shadow person, I beleive, once before, from a distance, and that terrified me. Opening your eyes and having one right in front of my face would just make me lose it.

Everyone seems to see them run. Maybe they are in a parallel diminsion, just doing their thing, then BOO!, we show up as light people to them. They say GHOST! GHOST! RUN FOR YOUR DEATHS! Or maybe they just dont want to be bothered. In reality, I do wonder why they run. INTERESTING!!
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ Mar 24 2008, 12:24 PM) *
Everyone seems to see them run. Maybe they are in a parallel diminsion, just doing their thing, then BOO!, we show up as light people to them. They say GHOST! GHOST! RUN FOR YOUR DEATHS! Or maybe they just dont want to be bothered. In reality, I do wonder why they run. INTERESTING!!



There are alot of theories that are floating around about what they could be, and that is one of them. Whatever they are, they most definately seem to be very aware of us. They only seem to watch us, and run away when spotted.
What are they?? Why are they watching us?? Why do they run away??
I have only actually heard of one supposed psychic, who is supposed to be legit according to most of the PI community, that has ever "sensed" anything from them. According that person, they are not demons, but supposedly work for them. They are supposedly(yeah, I know I'm using that word alot) gathering information for demons. Info on people, places, events, anything that could be usefull to them. That person still could not answer exactly what they are, only what their intentions were. Of course, I don't put a whole lot of faith in psychics, and what they claim to see, hear, feel, etc. It's just impossible to know if they are legit or not.
bogcreeper
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 24 2008, 01:06 PM) *
There are alot of theories that are floating around about what they could be, and that is one of them. Whatever they are, they most definately seem to be very aware of us. They only seem to watch us, and run away when spotted.
What are they?? Why are they watching us?? Why do they run away??
I have only actually heard of one supposed psychic, who is supposed to be legit according to most of the PI community, that has ever "sensed" anything from them. According that person, they are not demons, but supposedly work for them. They are supposedly(yeah, I know I'm using that word alot) gathering information for demons. Info on people, places, events, anything that could be usefull to them. That person still could not answer exactly what they are, only what their intentions were. Of course, I don't put a whole lot of faith in psychics, and what they claim to see, hear, feel, etc. It's just impossible to know if they are legit or not.

I'm just full of it. Some of the theories out there are logical, but being someone that has seen it, I can say that on all but one occasion I felt no fear at all. I think a lot of these theories are possible, but them being demons, personally is bull of fool. I have said it before, two of my five sightings I can directly correlate with times of fortune and good luck. I am still guessing that if they were a vivid bright being that we would be talking about angels, not demons.
gunsmoked
Maybe these things are different, like for example:
a ghost is something you can't see, one form or type of ghost, and a hat man, or a shadow person, is another form of paranormal activity/ghost activity
maybe they are completely different, who know?
Asphodel
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 24 2008, 10:56 AM) *
Sounds like what you experienced was just a standard spirit, not necessarily a shadow person.
It seems like alot of people are assuming that shadow people are simply ghosts. The general concensus from the people who have been studying this phenomenon, are that they are in NO way linked to spirits, or hauntings. Spirits can supposedly appear as a dark shadowy figure, but a true "shadow person" has no typical signs of hauntings at all. Psychics cannot feel them, or tell if they are present. There are no EMF readings, temperature changes, smells, sounds, EVP's, or anything associated with them. They are as seperate from ghosts as UFO's are, and are their own branch of paranormal study. If they were just ghosts, they never would have been called shadow people. They simply would have been called ghosts. They seem to be a completely seperate entity, and no one has any explanation as to what the origin of these things are, and why they have only been making appearances recently. There have been very few, if any, reports of them in history, however, in the last 10-15 years, they are a very common occurance


Like I said, "He felt distinctly masculine and was of a very average height and build. I don't think he was anything other than a human spirit." Let me clarify, though: I'm not entirely sure, because I didn't sense him before I saw him. I may not have felt anything at all. This occurred a long time ago, and I could very easily be associating feelings from another experience with this one. I have doubts of him being a ghost because he ran. I've never had a ghost run once I saw it. They usually just disappear. I've also never had an experience, other than possibly this, where I just looked up and saw something. I always feel something first. I tend to see full apparitions with details, as well. I'm not sure of what this experience was.
master_jawa
I had heard of hatman/shadow people a few times before, but when a few friends of mine had some experiences i got REAL interested (and creeped out)

The events would have happened around a year ago. Three of my friends moved into a house and they had some strange experiences. It wasn't till a few weeks after the events started happening that I heard of it cause they didn't like to speak of it.

Every now and again, one of them would wake up in the night, to see a dark mass at the end of their bed. They would not be able to lift their body from the bed, they couldnt make a sound, and they were VERY scared. It was like there was a HEAVY force holding them down. After a few seconds they were released from the force and the mass would dissapear. They also described it as being extremely hot.

On one instance the mass disapeared and the force holding them down was released they ran out to the lounge room where some guests were to tell the story and one guest swears she saw a black shape speed down the hallway and through a wall. This was before the story was told to her.

All three of my friends had this experience. When I heard of it one of them wouldn't sleep alone in their room anymore.

When I was told of it, it was in the presence of another friend who was very skeptical. I asked a few questions and got them to decribe the mass in the best way possible. They all said it was asthough the mass was an extremely tall person wearing a long coat and a hat similar to that of Indiana Jones of Freddy Kruger. My skeptical friend thought of some rational explanation of it and decided to sleep the night at the house to prove that there was nothing wrong.

He woke up in the darkness and couldnt see anything at all, but he heard some kind of voice/howl inches from his face. the noise stopped and he simply put it down to waking up in the environment and imagining it. Then he felt a force hold him down and he saw the hatman.

He denies any paranormal explanation for it and is still skeptical about the paranormal, but he doesn't know how to explain what he saw/felt/heard in any way. He is still a skeptic but he knows that whatever it was freaked him the hell out.

To this day I have been very interested in hatman/shadow people, but thinking about them really gives me the creeps.
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