I have one moving around on my coffee table right now, all on its own!

I'm sure you can easily explain what causes the pinwheel to spin as well.

Yeah, But I'm posting one of it under a bowl, and a plate sumbmerged in water with the bowl ontop to prove that no air is let in.

Just A sec, my vid will explain everything.

Well, I have a 300 year old drafty house which may have something to do with it...

Actually, I haven't. There is no need to lie with the believers herer. How mature of you?

by the way, spell check is a good tool.

@Papaver.... Maybe where you are....

Here at 127.0.0.1, its fairly new.

It is the outward sign by which Eric conveys to us a hint of his ineffable bliss, a thing which is beyond knowing, and which cannot be described in words.

If you don't understand why I said how mature of some you may want to re-read your post...slowly if you need to. You may have not lied but you probably have thrown something completely out of proportion...and if you say you haven't well then your a liar too...by the way, spell check is a good tool.

If you don't understand why I said how mature of some you may want to re-read your post...slowly if you need to. You may have not lied but you probably have thrown something completely out of proportion...and if you say you haven't well then your a liar too...by the way, spell check is a good tool.

While our aim is to encourage serious discussion on metaphysical phenomena in this section, members posting dubious claims of fantastic psychokinetic abilities can expect to be at the receiving end of a certain degree of skepticism. We would like to encourage visitors to come forward with legitimate stories, however at the same time we want to discourage the posting of intentionally fabricated claims.

As I recall from reading previous threads about this, you did ask him to make a psi wheel and videotape the outcome, an experiment. He did that. I never said anyone was scared of the outcome, also if you think leaving me a comment on my page like "Boo ya" is supposed to intimidate me, your going to have to try alot harder then that...sorry.

To start. Boo ya is fun words. Nothing more. Come on.

Great he did the video, but he did it in a way as to be useless.

As well, you yourself are not absent of your own criticism--you tell Eric "spell check is a good tool", yet you use three ellipses in the span of two sentences. Not a big deal, but if we are bringing ticky-tack grammar critiques to each other's attention...

It always amuses me when people criticise English skills when their own mistakes are there for all to see.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

I'm still convinced I did TK, as I was able to move it in the direction I pleased by just thinking about it...

I'm pleased that you are doing that. The experiment will be more in the spirit of the scientific method. My setup may not be perfect but I can't think of a problem with it at the moment. All I am trying to do is eliminate the obvious causes to get closer to the phenomenon, if there is one and you are starting to go the right way about it.

Can you make these things actually spin around? Is that your claim? I mean actually spin, not move a little and then settle, move a little and settle etc. If so can you do it under cover of a container? Can you make these things actually spin and complete several rotations because in your video it only moves a little bit.

I need to try to explain something that I feel is quite important. I have no emotional investment in outcomes. I have no rigid belief system. I have an attatchment to the method used to find a truth, the scientific method. Outcomes can change my beliefs if the scientific method is adhered too. That's seems to be the big difference between a skeptic and a believer. The skeptic is true to the method and loses nothing if he is proved wrong. Quite the opposite in fact - we gain something new. I am happy to find something new if it is discovered by the correct means. I find the problem with believers in all kinds of things is that they start with the positive belief and try to make it fit with their world and their practices.

I do not work like that. My investment is in the tool, not the outcome. I want you to have TK I just don't believe it.





That method would be fine if you can prove the seal with the dryer.




Heartagram,

Could we start by you saying how you intend to make the wheel behave before you start making the video for I feel that this is vitally important. Can you make it spin? Can you say in which direction? I'd be happy with you just saying that it will complete at least <insert figure> rotations and then come to rest. Or that it will spin fast and then when you stop TK it will slow to a stop.

What I'm trying to say is "What do you claim you can do to a psi wheel?" This is very important. We need a claim before we start and we need to agree upon what constitutes success.

How bout, since the sealed container may take a while...I agree to make a vid, in 3-4 days....Just a plain psi vid like my last one...But this time, I'll give everyone a heads up as to what way the wheel will spin...Even if it just moves a little bit,you'll have some agenda as to what is should do...Showing I have some control...How bout, left, right, left , left, right?


And, I cna make them do full roations, I have a screwy psi Wheel though, I'll make a new one for this vid, cause the problem with my current wheel, is it falls off balance, and then it wont spin...

Just a suggestion...I noticed you had really loud music in the background, now I don't have any idea about where your system is set up in your room, but I would recommend probably having it off or low because the bass could be an outside influence(cause the table to rumble) , i don't know where its located in your room, but we do want an accurate experiment. I know if my CD Player is cranked up I can shake the whole room...but like I said just a suggestion.

You mean me? That's not my video mate. But I did try the experiment in my girlfriends house earlier, using her mugs. And it worked. Try it yourself

I just actually wasted time making a "psi" wheel and was able to turn it no problem just by putting my palm heat near it. So did my girlfriend and her brother, and I could even change it's direction via moving my hands from different angles. And I am not a psionist psycic teleknises master, its science

And here's the proof, of what I also tried..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApzPZgUwDaE

You mean me? That's not my video mate. But I did try the experiment in my girlfriends house earlier, using her mugs. And it worked. Try it yourself

Yes, but I don't put my hands anywhere near the wheel...Watch ym previous vids, and you'll see I didn't...I gave you guys the agenda for the way I will move it..And I wont move my body while doin the vid either...So you'll be sure, I'm controllin it...

I already gave you the agenda that it will move in...I see no need to shout...As it will just move the wheel..I wear a bandanna, but any fast wind, like coughing or blwing exstremely hard goes through, the bandanna is just so I don't breathe on it...

I know if my CD Player is cranked up I can shake the whole room...but like I said just a suggestion.

Word. If I got Meshuggah playing, even I can get a pin wheel to spin...and I don't even believe in this stuff!

She has a good point. I did hear music in the vid and totally forgot about it. Sound--i.e. bass--could invalidate the experiment, even if it's under a glass container.

Oh, and Heart, about this order--"left, right, left, left, right"--what constitutes a move? Like half of a full rotation? A full rotation? Because otherwise that can be a little ambiguous.

How bout atleast a half rotation will work...

And my music wasn't enough to shake the wheel...I have music on because It helps me focus...If I don't have music on, I'll have some song playing in my head...Which is bad, cause If I'm tryin to concentrate then it shatters my focus...Music helps me zone out..It allows my mind to be occupied, like the part that controls the random thoughts and stuff...So I use it to focus...If it had been my music movin it, the whole wheel would shake...It wouldn't spin...It might but you'd be able to tell the bass was doin it...

Instead of doing the same useless test. Take the time to set up one in a sealed container. Even if it takes you a few more days.

How bout atleast a half rotation will work...

And my music wasn't enough to shake the wheel...I have music on because It helps me focus...If I don't have music on, I'll have some song playing in my head...Which is bad, cause If I'm tryin to concentrate then it shatters my focus...Music helps me zone out..It allows my mind to be occupied, like the part that controls the random thoughts and stuff...So I use it to focus...If it had been my music movin it, the whole wheel would shake...It wouldn't spin...It might but you'd be able to tell the bass was doin it...

The sealed container will take me a few days to conquor...So I can get used to passin through objects for it to move...If I do this, it will be a little more improved version of the last test...


This will still follow the scientific method...

I have a hypothisus(The wheel will move cause of Tk...)

I have a plan for the test(I will move the wheel left, right, left , left, right)

I will put a control,(I'll put sheet of paper, next to ym psi wheel, showing that wind isn't moving the wheel...)

Why don't you put a few more wheels around the one you are planning to move?

Actually I am suggesting he move only the middle wheel and leaves the others unmoved. So if there is any external influence it will be clear to see. If any other than the middle wheel moves.

That, unfortunately, is impractical. Once the target pinwheel moves, regardless of why it moves, then there will be convective air movement in the vicinity. Any nearby pinwheel ought to move.

That is unless Heart can actually use Tk and make one move and the other stay still.

To me though this would only look impressive if one pinwheel actually spun and the others didn't.