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Heartagram3200
Ok, you have all been waiting...So here they are! I couldn't edit them, so I had to put the whole clip on...I got 2...They aren't the best I've done, but they'll do...

I'll try to embed it here...It wont embed...Here's the link...


Psiwheel 2



Psi vid #1
Supreme_Being
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 15 2008, 10:17 AM) *
Ok, you have all been waiting...So here they are! I couldn't edit them, so I had to put the whole clip on...I got 2...They aren't the best I've done, but they'll do...

I'll try to embed it here...It wont embed...Here's the link...


Psiwheel 2



The first one is still bein provcesseed, I'll edit this post once it's available...


It should really be under glass to make it more genuine, cuz even the slight wind from the guy with the camera can make it move!
Eric Raven The Skeptic
Put in under a glass. Otherwise ifs bogus. After putting it under glass, using someting to seal the edges, putty etc.
Moro
Sorry Heart! But, you did not move that pin/psiwheel with telekinesis. I have made psiwheels just as you have
in your video and got the same results. I have even got it to spin rather well in both directions.

Another point is, you don't even have to be around the pin/psiwheel and it will still spin with convection
currents in the room.

Anyway you gave it a good try! I will give you that much credit for your effort.



Regards,
Tom
Heartagram3200
You asked for a simple psi-vid...I didn't have time to do all the fancy stuff...I was able to make it spin in the directiosn I wnated by just thinkin bout it Moror...I knew the vid wouldn't prove anything...I believe thats all that matters...You asked for it, so be happy with what u guys got...
Moro
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 15 2008, 04:10 PM) *
You asked for a simple psi-vid...I didn't have time to do all the fancy stuff...I was able to make it spin in the directiosn I wnated by just thinkin bout it Moror...I knew the vid wouldn't prove anything...I believe thats all that matters...You asked for it, so be happy with what u guys got...

Well enough Heart! You did post the video. thumbsup.gif
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 15 2008, 03:10 PM) *
You asked for a simple psi-vid...I didn't have time to do all the fancy stuff...I was able to make it spin in the directiosn I wnated by just thinkin bout it Moror...I knew the vid wouldn't prove anything...I believe thats all that matters...You asked for it, so be happy with what u guys got...

You gave us crap. You have no powers and you know it. Your video was junk and you know that as well. We were not asking for fancy stuff. Just real.
I tell you what. Stop claiming powers you don't have and that will make us happy. You know they have psi sites that are all believers.
Moro
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 15 2008, 04:10 PM) *
You asked for a simple psi-vid...I didn't have time to do all the fancy stuff...I was able to make it spin in the directiosn I wnated by just thinkin bout it Moror...I knew the vid wouldn't prove anything...I believe thats all that matters...You asked for it, so be happy with what u guys got...

You was able to spin it in the direction you was thinking about?

First of all the pin/psiwheel did not make one whole rotation in either direction. It did move! But, that doesn't count for much.

Second of all, HOW are we supposed to know what direction you wanted it to spin? You didn't say anything, nor did you
point signifying a certain direction.



Regards,
Tom
Atheist God
While I appreciate the effort, this video does not match the claims you have made here.

You originally also said you were gonna do the bottle cap and the wheel.

Your demonstration also did not match the claim of standing back away from the wheel and making it move.

Nice try though.
nirvanic
i think everybody here appreciates your effort,but that video wasn't that good, heart why don't you try to move something other than the psiwheel? It doesn't have to be that big, but it would still be better than this, and eric, can you please try not to be that agressive?
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (nirvanic @ Mar 15 2008, 04:45 PM) *
i think everybody here appreciates your effort,but that video wasn't that good, heart why don't you try to move something other than the psiwheel? It doesn't have to be that big, but it would still be better than this, and eric, can you please try not to be that agressive?

I think we are all tired of the claims.
HumanTorch
eric he did his best. I can't bring truth to his claims and I can't deny them but you were way to rash. Im trying to train in psi. Maybe one day I will have some proof and post it here, hopefully. And no matter what a skeptic says or what a believer says it does not change either of the groups opinions. As soon as I can maybe flare a psiball or do some telekinesis I'll post a vid especially for you. Till then maybe other believers can make something truly impressive. And one more thing, You cant really prove anything over a vid. For a computer savvy person ya know how easy it is to edit the vid. It is always better in person.
HumanTorch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lPJGoZ4mFQ

That vid is alot better. But still faster speed and cover it. With the camera mans face and hands covered we don't know what he is doing.

Heartagram3200
Yea, I mean seriously...I didn't have much time, I was getting ready for a party I had to go to...I also had a HUGE headache, and maybe next time, I'll point and stuff, but I knew if I did that, you would say moving my arms was making it move...And maybe It didn't rotate fully, but it DID move...In the directiosn i wnated...I did what you asked for...My camera man was a skeptic, that prolly didn't help much....But yea, and Eric, don't be so cold...
Heartagram3200
Oh thanks Nick! Didn't know it was approved....Ok, I'll put that up too....Yea, that is a little better to...Alos, the 2nd one was like my 20th take, so I was tired...Cause I was trying to make them perfect...the 1st one was like on my 3rd try....
HumanTorch
Listen don't feel pressured to make a vid if you are lacking the time or feel sick. You are one of the only people to actually make a vid and if they truly want to see it they will wait
HumanTorch
no prob anytime. wink2.gif
Heartagram3200
I mean seriosuly...If I knew I couldnt do this, I wouldn't of made the vid...

Oh by the way Eric....


"This means no flaming, no namecalling, no trolling and no personal attacks."
Papaver
Thanks for finally posting a video for us Heartagram. It's marginally better than absolutely nothing but it's a great shame that you didn't add any methods I and others asked for to prevent simple air currents from spinning the wheel.

You remember my idea of setting up that wheel on a tray with a little water in it and a clear glass bowl on the top? If you'd have done that you'd have really, genuinely, impressed me. Even if the wheel didn't spin. It'd have shown some appreciation for the scientific method.

You're saying you didn't have time for "fancy stuff". Are you honestly saying that in the course of a whole week you could't have put that in a tray with some water and put a bowl over it? That's just a cop out that I believe you won't do because it will stop the psi wheel working and you (and I) know that.

I could make that setup with the water and a tray literally in less than two minutes from the stuff in my kitchen. You've had a week to make an impressive video to go along with your impressive claims (and you have made many claims) and to your credit you've given us that video.

Unfortunately it has not lived up to the claims you have made around here.




Papaver
What's fancy about this? There's about 3mm of water on the big plate and the bowl is sat in it on the plate. Put your psi wheel under something like that.

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AngelOfMusic
Papver...i like your chair wink2.gif

AoM xx
Papaver
What about my special pizza plate?

Poor thing's feeling left out now...
AngelOfMusic
Yes that is yummy too...speaking of pizza, mine's burning.

I like your glass bowl too, it's very...transparent.

Best Wishes, AoM xx
Blacksabbath
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 16 2008, 04:25 AM) *
Yea, I mean seriously...I didn't have much time, I was getting ready for a party I had to go to...I also had a HUGE headache



I was also going to make a video of my shpeshial powersh but a dinosaur appeared and summoned many unicorns to chase me and made me too tired to do it
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (Blacksabbath @ Mar 16 2008, 01:09 PM) *
I was also going to make a video of my shpeshial powersh but a dinosaur appeared and summoned many unicorns to chase me and made me too tired to do it

LMAO. tongue.gif
louie
also why not put the camera on a stand so it reduces the possiblity of wind from the cameraman.
Kevin A.
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 15 2008, 01:17 PM) *
Ok, you have all been waiting...So here they are! I couldn't edit them, so I had to put the whole clip on...I got 2...They aren't the best I've done, but they'll do...

I'll try to embed it here...It wont embed...Here's the link...


Psiwheel 2



Psi vid #1


All of your comments, all of your claims, all of your questions, everything you have said here on these forums and this is what you give us? Two weeks to prepare, numerous suggestions and you give us this?

Why am I not surprised? I am not even going to take the time to point out the numerous problems with your videos. Its not worth the time or wear and tear on my keyboard.

Others may be giving you points for trying and producing something. Others may be telling you "good job" and continue practicing. Others are brash but warranted in that and funny. Me, I am just done with you. After all this, all the discussion with you, everything I and others have done here trying to discuss this with you and we get two worthless videos. Excuse after excuse after excuse.

I am done with you Heart. Good bye and good luck with your life, you're going to need it.

Kevin A.
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (Kevin A. @ Mar 16 2008, 02:06 PM) *
All of your comments, all of your claims, all of your questions, everything you have said here on these forums and this is what you give us? Two weeks to prepare, numerous suggestions and you give us this?

Why am I not surprised? I am not even going to take the time to point out the numerous problems with your videos. Its not worth the time or wear and tear on my keyboard.

Others may be giving you points for trying and producing something. Others may be telling you "good job" and continue practicing. Others are brash but warranted in that and funny. Me, I am just done with you. After all this, all the discussion with you, everything I and others have done here trying to discuss this with you and we get two worthless videos. Excuse after excuse after excuse.

I am done with you Heart. Good bye and good luck with your life, you're going to need it.

Kevin A.

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InHuman
You get a cookie for trying. But its a rasin cookie.

You didn't prove anything, that was a pretty lame showcase. It seems you hyped this to no end, and didn't follow through...

How are you sure its real power and not just wind/fart currents in your room. You're getting headaches because your concentrating on something that has no effect. It would be like me staring at a t.v for hours trying to change the channel by thinking of it..
Papaver
OK, I've made myself a psi wheel. It spins on its own in my living room with the imperceptible drafts. It actually looks quite cool doing it because it seems as if it shouldn't move but it does and quite fast at times. In fact it behaves exactly as yours did.

After I put it in my simple contraption it does not move, not even a fraction, even if I blow hard on it as long as the water is deep enough.

If you'd made a video with this kind of device we'd have been impressed.

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Rockerchick2008
I find it quite funny how most of you are being cynical towards him and his claim, regardless whether it did a full turn or a partial...yes it was flawed but so what? he gave you guys what you asked for...and common most of you have blown some smoke on here or made up stuff or said something falsely or without complete proof, so some may wanna take a look at themselves before judging him or someone else.
Eric Raven The Skeptic
QUOTE (Rockerchick2008 @ Mar 16 2008, 06:02 PM) *
I find it quite funny how most of you are being cynical towards him and his claim, regardless whether it did a full turn or a partial...yes it was flawed but so what? he gave you guys what you asked for...and common most of you have blown some smoke on here or made up stuff or said something falsely or without complete proof, so some may wanna take a look at themselves before judging him or someone else.

I love judging him, because he knew how to do it right, but chose not to. Why? Because he could fake it then. HE HAS SHOWN US NOTHING BUT EXCUSES. I looked at myself and I like it. Boo ya.
Rockerchick2008
And i'm sure you havent blown a ton false facts on here too...*rolls eyes* wow how mature of some of you...
MarkSteven
like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ

InHuman
QUOTE (Rockerchick2008 @ Mar 16 2008, 04:54 PM) *
And i'm sure you havent blown a ton false facts on here too...*rolls eyes* wow how mature of some of you...


Using a few false/out of context facts or exaggerating some real ones in one is comparable to this..
Rockerchick2008
my point is he did what you guys asked of him, he did post the video, yes it was not 100%, but he did take a risk and took the challenge, and now hes getting thrashed for it? everyone on here makes claims, few are willing to try to prove it, because they are scared of the outcome. At least he tried and was willing to post the results to you all knowing he could face critism, how many of you are willing to do the same.
InHuman
A risk?

There was another user here who made the same vid in a day, we told him off too...

People can make claims, but when they can be easily proven we demand a better quality..
Rockerchick2008
It wouldnt really matter how good of quality it is, someone(or a few) would still be skeptical even if it was 100% someone would still find a way to say its fake, even if it wasnt, yea it was a risk, im sure he wasnt thrilled about posting the video, knowing what quality it was but at least he did, I would like to see most of the people post videos on here trying to prove something. then im sure peopel wouldnt be so quick to jump down anothers throat.
Moro
QUOTE (Rockerchick2008 @ Mar 16 2008, 09:17 PM) *
It wouldnt really matter how good of quality it is, someone(or a few) would still be skeptical even if it was 100% someone would still find a way to say its fake, even if it wasnt, yea it was a risk, im sure he wasnt thrilled about posting the video, knowing what quality it was but at least he did, I would like to see most of the people post videos on here trying to prove something. then im sure peopel wouldnt be so quick to jump down anothers throat.

I tell you what Rockerchick! I will put a Pin/psiwheel together record it then post it on here tomorrow.
The only thing that will be different is I wont be claiming to use Tk. Just some common sense and some
knowledge on convection currents is all that will be needed. thumbsup.gif



Regards,
Tom
Rockerchick2008
good, your proving your belief in currents and the basic technological process, but dont get my post confused with agreeing that he can tk,
inkblot
If he showed us something besides a psiwheel or spoonbending vid, i'd be more impressed. Well, at least he tried.
InHuman
QUOTE (Rockerchick2008 @ Mar 16 2008, 06:17 PM) *
It wouldnt really matter how good of quality it is, someone(or a few) would still be skeptical even if it was 100% someone would still find a way to say its fake, even if it wasnt, yea it was a risk, im sure he wasnt thrilled about posting the video, knowing what quality it was but at least he did, I would like to see most of the people post videos on here trying to prove something. then im sure peopel wouldnt be so quick to jump down anothers throat.


I'm game, someone get me a camcorder and something to prove.
Heartagram3200
QUOTE (louie @ Mar 16 2008, 02:26 PM) *
also why not put the camera on a stand so it reduces the possiblity of wind from the cameraman.



I mentioned this in another thread that I lost my tri-pod...
Rockerchick2008
thats up to you...but dont do it just on accord to me...I didnt set it up as a challenge, just as a point.
Heartagram3200
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Mar 16 2008, 07:08 PM) *
I love judging him, because he knew how to do it right, but chose not to. Why? Because he could fake it then. HE HAS SHOWN US NOTHING BUT EXCUSES. I looked at myself and I like it. Boo ya.




First off, I love cookies! I don't care if it's a raisen cookie, those are my favorite!!!


Secondly, why would I go, and like to myself about this? If it was faked, don't you think I would have faked it a little better? To make it more believable? If I knew I couldn't do this, I would try hard to fake it good...I believe in this, I'm not lying to myself...If I didn't think this was real I wouldn't even waste my time tryin...I mean seriously, I have a whole lot of stuff I ccould do other than be on here arguing with you guys...Or practicing psi...I could be with ym girlfriend, with my friends, I could go to the movies(MAKEOUT!!! sorry, lol) Honestly, I have better stuff to do..But I believe in it, thats why I spend my time fighting for it, and trying to practice...
Heartagram3200
QUOTE (Papaver @ Mar 16 2008, 03:41 PM) *
OK, I've made myself a psi wheel. It spins on its own in my living room with the imperceptible drafts. It actually looks quite cool doing it because it seems as if it shouldn't move but it does and quite fast at times. In fact it behaves exactly as yours did.

After I put it in my simple contraption it does not move, not even a fraction, even if I blow hard on it as long as the water is deep enough.

If you'd made a video with this kind of device we'd have been impressed.

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And ok papaver...I'll do just that...I don't een know if we have a bowl that will work though, I'll check...If I do this, and it moves even a quarter of a rotation, that will be proof enough...
Heartagram3200
also, any tips on how u made your psi wheel papaver? Might help...Thanks...
bleedingelite
QUOTE (MarkSteven @ Mar 16 2008, 08:05 PM) *


Wow, dude. That is pretty amazing. It's almost enough to make me want to go out and try to learn this stuff.
Papaver
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 17 2008, 02:49 AM) *
also, any tips on how u made your psi wheel papaver? Might help...Thanks...


I made the psi wheel out of tin foil. I used a long metal pin that I pushed through an eraser. The Psi wheel is folded in the same way as the one in your video as I tried to copy your design but using foil instead of paper. The foil before I folded it measured around two inches on each side of the square. I cut it out usinng a very sharp knife but I'm sure scissors will work just fine.

The pin wheel spins in my living room all by itself in exactly the same manner yours did. After I put it under the bowl with the water and the plate it moved for a few seconds until it settled on its own balance point (centre of gravity). I did not mistake this for TK! After it properly settled I managed to make it move by blowing really hard under the rim. This made a wave that passed under the edge of the bowl but the water moved a lot so that would be obvious if you blew really hard on it. I topped up the water as it had sat in my living room all day and some had evaporated. When the water was deeper I had to blow so hard under the rim to make the wheel move that the water blew out of the plate. When the wheel is set up like this the air currents and heat from my hands cannot make this wheel move.

The water will help to make a seal and it shows if air is being blown at it.

If you make the wheel move under these circumstances I will have to be impressed!
Sporkling
Good job Heart.
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