choateyj
Mar 18 2008, 05:51 AM
I got a friend who vacations in the u p Michigan at the same time every year ....he ends his vacation the second weekend in july at a music festival where me and mine meet up with him and his for the weekend of fun and music.........this past year when they arrived he , his wife , and kid, were freekin out about having seen a dogman type of creature 2 legged crypted having never heard of "dogman"..... i went lookin on the web for it........theres quit a bit on the web. But im kinda lookin for first hand stories ......something you may have seen.......or heard of someone that has see these kinda creatures......my friend was quite upset with having seen this creature....not knowing what your looking at has that kinda effect or at least it had that effect on him...he didnt wanna talk about it but his son and wife both saw the same creature and they talked all weekend about it.......thanks.......Ej
DukeofNoodleness
Mar 18 2008, 11:22 AM
The problem is darling that a lot of people lie. Especially about the supernatural. Whether its cause their own lives are boring or they find the supernatural life more appealing I do not know, but I do know that they lie. I don't know about your friends but I know a lot of people are desperate to be the centre of talk and a story like this is what will get it. So try not to ask too hard cause you will get a lot of fakers
667-Neighbor of the Beast
Mar 18 2008, 02:40 PM
Also, I would like to know exactly how him and his family described it to you?? Did they actually use the words "dog man"??
Jesse Custer
Mar 18 2008, 03:49 PM
There's an absolutely enormous thread on the Fortean Times forum about dogheaded men that's been going for about five years, but outside of that, I've never heard of them.
Moredhel84
Mar 18 2008, 03:49 PM
Perhaps they saw a person with Hypertrichosis (medical term referring to a condition of excessive body hair).
667-Neighbor of the Beast
Mar 18 2008, 04:54 PM
No, actually, there is a semi=popular cryptid in the northern part of the US midwest. The popular name for it is the Michigan Dogman. Supposedly a dog like creature that walks upright on it hind legs.
But, what I want to know is, why a dogman?? IF(and thats a big if) any person were to see such a creature, wouldn't the first thing that would pop into their head be "werewolf"?? So, where did "dogman" come from.
That is actually why I wanted to know if the person who told the story to the OP of this topic referred to the creature they saw as a "dogman". Because, if they had actually seen a canine creature walking upright, and had never heard of the dogman, they would have thought werewolf. Yet, from what I can tell in the story, they referred to it as a dogman, even though they had supposedly never heard of the Michigan Dogman. So, if they had referred to it as a dogman, yet claimed to have never heard of it, that is pretty good evidence that they are lying. And, if they are going to lie about that, more than likely, they would be lying about the whole incident.
The Maharaja
Mar 18 2008, 05:05 PM
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 18 2008, 05:54 PM)

No, actually, there is a semi=popular cryptid in the northern part of the US midwest. The popular name for it is the Michigan Dogman. Supposedly a dog like creature that walks upright on it hind legs.
But, what I want to know is, why a dogman?? IF(and thats a big if) any person were to see such a creature, wouldn't the first thing that would pop into their head be "werewolf"?? So, where did "dogman" come from.
That is actually why I wanted to know if the person who told the story to the OP of this topic referred to the creature they saw as a "dogman". Because, if they had actually seen a canine creature walking upright, and had never heard of the dogman, they would have thought werewolf. Yet, from what I can tell in the story, they referred to it as a dogman, even though they had supposedly never heard of the Michigan Dogman. So, if they had referred to it as a dogman, yet claimed to have never heard of it, that is pretty good evidence that they are lying. And, if they are going to lie about that, more than likely, they would be lying about the whole incident.
Spot on post my man spot on
Yorgmiester
Mar 18 2008, 05:12 PM
Why is it called the Michigan Dogman anyway?Why not the Michigan Werewolf?
667-Neighbor of the Beast
Mar 18 2008, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (Yorgmiester @ Mar 18 2008, 01:12 PM)

Why is it called the Michigan Dogman anyway?Why not the Michigan Werewolf?
That was the question I posed in my last post. Read above.
theavengerofblood
Mar 18 2008, 07:39 PM
QUOTE (choateyj @ Mar 18 2008, 05:51 AM)

I got a friend who vacations in the u p Michigan at the same time every year ....he ends his vacation the second weekend in july at a music festival where me and mine meet up with him and his for the weekend of fun and music.........this past year when they arrived he , his wife , and kid, were freekin out about having seen a dogman type of creature 2 legged crypted having never heard of "dogman"..... i went lookin on the web for it........theres quit a bit on the web. But im kinda lookin for first hand stories ......something you may have seen.......or heard of someone that has see these kinda creatures......my friend was quite upset with having seen this creature....not knowing what your looking at has that kinda effect or at least it had that effect on him...he didnt wanna talk about it but his son and wife both saw the same creature and they talked all weekend about it.......thanks.......Ej
I've heard of it before. Are you sure your friends family wasn't faking. Its not any suprise to see one in michigan. I bet it was proboaly terrefying seeing it.
Cyaneyed
Mar 18 2008, 09:04 PM
Festivals? Dogs?
Download Dog? xD
choateyj
Mar 20 2008, 06:05 AM
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 18 2008, 04:54 PM)

No, actually, there is a semi=popular cryptid in the northern part of the US midwest. The popular name for it is the Michigan Dogman. Supposedly a dog like creature that walks upright on it hind legs.
But, what I want to know is, why a dogman?? IF(and thats a big if) any person were to see such a creature, wouldn't the first thing that would pop into their head be "werewolf"?? So, where did "dogman" come from.
That is actually why I wanted to know if the person who told the story to the OP of this topic referred to the creature they saw as a "dogman". Because, if they had actually seen a canine creature walking upright, and had never heard of the dogman, they would have thought werewolf. Yet, from what I can tell in the story, they referred to it as a dogman, even though they had supposedly never heard of the Michigan Dogman. So, if they had referred to it as a dogman, yet claimed to have never heard of it, that is pretty good evidence that they are lying. And, if they are going to lie about that, more than likely, they would be lying about the whole incident.
Correct on the michigan dogman upright walking k 9........my friend arrived with his wife and son and said "i think we saw the dog man" i said whats a dogman??? he said"you never heard of dog man???? i say no.....and he explaned that it was the subject of a song thats on the radio (here in michigan)every year around holloween.Their reaction to this sighting is what made me go look into this kinda thing on the web.
As it turns out the song was made up by a disc jocky in traverse city michigan u s a.He had heard a local legend about some hippies in the sixtys that did some drugs and got harrassed by some of these creatures.(likely the drugs you say????in the morning all they found were large dog tracks in the sand)..It got some air time one year(and still does) the radio station and the d j started getting calls as to sightings of these kinds of creatures. Over the years (they play the song every holloween)they got so many responce to the song that they were able to compile a list of sightings that span decades and seem to happen on a seven year cycle.......
if you look at my post you will find that AT NO TIME DID I IMPLY MY FRIEND DIDNT KNOW OF THE LEGEND OF THE DOG MAN he had to tell me about the song and it was his knowledge of the song that made him apply the term dogman to the sighting.
Also ,he would`nt have used the term werewolf as he and i are both certain there`s NO SUCH THING AS A WEREWOLF.(;~)>>>......he has since had a few locals tell him what he saw was a wolf and that wolves are known to stand up and run on there hind legs.............he seems to buy it but his wife and kid say theres no way that was a wolf......as to lying????not a chance .........he don`t like to talk about it and seldom does................Ej
Tia
Mar 20 2008, 10:32 AM
The most famous dogman is The Beast Of Bray Road. Try looking under that.
WEREGIRL666
Mar 20 2008, 12:26 PM
QUOTE (choateyj @ Mar 18 2008, 12:51 AM)

I got a friend who vacations in the u p Michigan at the same time every year ....he ends his vacation the second weekend in july at a music festival where me and mine meet up with him and his for the weekend of fun and music.........this past year when they arrived he , his wife , and kid, were freekin out about having seen a dogman type of creature 2 legged crypted having never heard of "dogman"..... i went lookin on the web for it........theres quit a bit on the web. But im kinda lookin for first hand stories ......something you may have seen.......or heard of someone that has see these kinda creatures......my friend was quite upset with having seen this creature....not knowing what your looking at has that kinda effect or at least it had that effect on him...he didnt wanna talk about it but his son and wife both saw the same creature and they talked all weekend about it.......thanks.......Ej
they have him and his bros on cam its a pack
667-Neighbor of the Beast
Mar 20 2008, 02:20 PM
QUOTE (choateyj @ Mar 20 2008, 02:05 AM)

Correct on the michigan dogman upright walking k 9........my friend arrived with his wife and son and said "i think we saw the dog man" i said whats a dogman??? he said"you never heard of dog man???? i say no.....and he explaned that it was the subject of a song thats on the radio (here in michigan)every year around holloween.Their reaction to this sighting is what made me go look into this kinda thing on the web.
As it turns out the song was made up by a disc jocky in traverse city michigan u s a.He had heard a local legend about some hippies in the sixtys that did some drugs and got harrassed by some of these creatures.(likely the drugs you say????in the morning all they found were large dog tracks in the sand)..It got some air time one year(and still does) the radio station and the d j started getting calls as to sightings of these kinds of creatures. Over the years (they play the song every holloween)they got so many responce to the song that they were able to compile a list of sightings that span decades and seem to happen on a seven year cycle.......
if you look at my post you will find that AT NO TIME DID I IMPLY MY FRIEND DIDNT KNOW OF THE LEGEND OF THE DOG MAN he had to tell me about the song and it was his knowledge of the song that made him apply the term dogman to the sighting.
Also ,he would`nt have used the term werewolf as he and i are both certain there`s NO SUCH THING AS A WEREWOLF.(;~)>>>......he has since had a few locals tell him what he saw was a wolf and that wolves are known to stand up and run on there hind legs.............he seems to buy it but his wife and kid say theres no way that was a wolf......as to lying????not a chance .........he don`t like to talk about it and seldom does................Ej
That is what I figured, and why my first post was a question about whether they referred to it as a dogman. I didn't want to jump to conclusions as to the validity of the report without knowing the facts first.
And you are correct on the origin of the legend. The people who reported it back in the 60's were supposedly heavily "medicated" at the time of the incident, and from what I undertand, when they reported it, they couldn't quite remember exactly where it was that the incident happend. They were not from the area, and were simply passing through, and decided to park their van on this remote spot for the night. So, the spot where the dog prints were found later, more than likely was not even the spot where they were even parked. This report sparked the legend, then the song. After the song had been played locally for a while, people started calling in with reports of seeing it, even though before the drugged up hippies, there had never been a report of such a creature in the area.
I'm not saying your friend is lying. I'm sure he saw something, but to believe that it was a dog creature walking on 2 legs is hard to swallow. I would be willing to bet that he either saw an animal of some type, and mistook it for this, or some idiot running around in the woods in a dog costume, trying to spark some controversy.
And as for the explanation of the wolf running on it's hind legs, that it pretty much BS. Wolves can rear up on their hind legs, for short periods of time(seconds), but they cannot run in this position.
lunartwin
Mar 22 2008, 11:33 PM
Oooh! I live in the uppermost part of the Upper Peninsula. We see some crazy stuff around here with all the wilderness, but I've never even heard of the "DogMan". Where was the music festival? Which festival was it?
furryman
Mar 23 2008, 12:32 AM
My aunt was telling me about how she was at my cuzins hose in northern michigan when she and some of my family saw something in the woods.
She said that my friend and my cuzin were out by the fire when they heard something in the woods behind them ,so they ran to the house and told everybody. Then the neighbors dogs started growling and barking crazylike. Then they looked towards the fence that seperates the yards and there was like a human figure,with a tail, that was whitish in color, just crawling around.She said that it was really big compared to the dogs.
I asked the other family members that were there and they said the same thing but none of them have ever heard about the michigan dogman. The day they saw it was on july 7th in 2007. thats all i have
choateyj
Mar 23 2008, 04:22 AM
QUOTE (lunartwin @ Mar 23 2008, 12:33 AM)

Oooh! I live in the uppermost part of the Upper Peninsula. We see some crazy stuff around here with all the wilderness, but I've never even heard of the "DogMan". Where was the music festival? Which festival was it?
the festival was the bliss fest. cross village mi ...n w tip o da mit.... cross village is the site of the hippies in the sixtys sighting of the dog man....
choateyj
Mar 23 2008, 04:27 AM
QUOTE (furryman @ Mar 23 2008, 01:32 AM)

My aunt was telling me about how she was at my cuzins hose in northern michigan when she and some of my family saw something in the woods.
She said that my friend and my cuzin were out by the fire when they heard something in the woods behind them ,so they ran to the house and told everybody. Then the neighbors dogs started growling and barking crazylike. Then they looked towards the fence that seperates the yards and there was like a human figure,with a tail, that was whitish in color, just crawling around.She said that it was really big compared to the dogs.
I asked the other family members that were there and they said the same thing but none of them have ever heard about the michigan dogman. The day they saw it was on july 7th in 2007. thats all i have
thanks for the post furryman ....your story is the reason for me posting my request........to hear about these kind of sightings........thanks again......Ej
choateyj
Mar 23 2008, 04:46 AM
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Mar 20 2008, 02:20 PM)

That is what I figured, and why my first post was a question about whether they referred to it as a dogman. I didn't want to jump to conclusions as to the validity of the report without knowing the facts first.
And you are correct on the origin of the legend. The people who reported it back in the 60's were supposedly heavily "medicated" at the time of the incident, and from what I undertand, when they reported it, they couldn't quite remember exactly where it was that the incident happend. They were not from the area, and were simply passing through, and decided to park their van on this remote spot for the night. So, the spot where the dog prints were found later, more than likely was not even the spot where they were even parked. This report sparked the legend, then the song. After the song had been played locally for a while, people started calling in with reports of seeing it, even though before the drugged up hippies, there had never been a report of such a creature in the area.
I'm not saying your friend is lying. I'm sure he saw something, but to believe that it was a dog creature walking on 2 legs is hard to swallow. I would be willing to bet that he either saw an animal of some type, and mistook it for this, or some idiot running around in the woods in a dog costume, trying to spark some controversy.
And as for the explanation of the wolf running on it's hind legs, that it pretty much BS. Wolves can rear up on their hind legs, for short periods of time(seconds), but they cannot run in this position.
well neighbor .....i think yea might a been a bit medicated yerself in regards to yer version of events in the story........the story`s on the web ....posted by the d j ........the hippies were from ohio.......they were camped at the state beach cross village........the were being run off the beach by a C.O. (D.N.R.) MORE THEN LIKELY after wearing out their welcome in the area........they were packing their chit and leavin when the C O showed up to run em off.......i looked into this quite a bit ......you might wanna take a better look .......kinda focus up yer view of things.......i started this thred in an effort to find or hear of more recent sightings and or stories ......not to test the validity of the sightings.......best regards.....Ej
OldTimeRadio
Mar 23 2008, 05:00 AM
There are numerous reports of "dogmen"-type beasts from both Michigan and Wisconsin. In the latter state they shade into werewolf sightings, especially of the "Bray Road Beast."
Most of the Michigan reports specify northern Michigan and I'd previously assumed that this meant the Upper Peninsula. Based on postings here that now seems to be in error.
There are wild dogs in the Americas that are quite at ease walking bi-pedally. However their habitat is far-off Argentina.
bandot
Mar 23 2008, 10:39 AM
a dogman...heemm....
some kind ritual posses th human taht becme animal....maybe...
BigDaddy_GFS
Mar 23 2008, 07:38 PM
The descriptions and behavior of 'Dog Man', according to eyewitness accts, sound like an offshoot of Bigfoot, rather than a werewolf. Though I'm not sold on the idea of a 500-lb primate living on the fringes of our society, without leaving real traces of its existence aside form questionable footprints and blurry photos...it's way more likely than a shape-shifting lupine.
OldTimeRadio
Mar 23 2008, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (BigDaddy_GFS @ Mar 23 2008, 07:38 PM)

....I'm not sold on the idea of a 500-lb primate living on the fringes of our society, without leaving real traces of its existence aside form questionable footprints and blurry photos....
But
does it follow that because a monstrous being is sighted that the creature has actually set up housekeeping in the area?
I have two multiple-witness reports of a Bigfoot observed in the western suburbs of Cincinnati, Ohio - two independent teams of witnesses on two separate days (and with no newspaper coverage to encourage copycats). But I don't think anybody believes that the beast actually
lives there.
To paraphrase John Keel's famous dictum on UFOs and Mothman, "Bigfoots are real, but not real in the same sense that a horse or a bear or a cow are real."
Gunmunky
Mar 23 2008, 11:47 PM
Never heard of it. BUt once saw a program about urban legends - it included a goat headed man. Just myths I'm guessing. Or someone fooling around. I mean a human with dogs head? Just seems rediculous to me. Believe it if you wish though.
drussell
Mar 24 2008, 03:12 AM
About 13 years ago I lived just outside a town called Baraga near L'anse in the upper penninsula of Michigan. My husband and three children were coming home from church one night and we saw this "thing" coming toward our car on the highway and we unavoidably ran over the "thing". It had white hair sticking out all over and a face like a human and it looked like it was rabid or "crazed". It was unbelievably weird looking and not like anything i had ever seen before. It was not large like a human but stood approximately 2 to 3 feet high and seemed to be running toward us and into our headlights. I have no other way to describe it since it did not look like anything we had ever seen. My husband slammed on his breaks and stopped to see what it was. He and i both got out of the car and my husband got a tire iron out of the trunk in case it was still alive and rabid. We were scared but since we had never seen anything like this before we wanted to know what it was and see if we could get a closer look. We never found it. We looked for a very long time while the kids watched us through the car windows but never found it. The entire experience was frightening. Four out of five of us in the car saw it. My youngest son had been sleeping in the car so he did not see it but he remembers waking up while my husband and I were searching. My other two children saw the exact same thing we did. All of my children are grown now. To this day we still dont know what it was but I can tell you it was the most evil looking thing I have ever encountered. We now refer to it as a demon.
choateyj
Mar 24 2008, 04:46 AM
QUOTE (drussell @ Mar 24 2008, 03:12 AM)

About 13 years ago I lived just outside a town called Baraga near L'anse in the upper penninsula of Michigan. My husband and three children were coming home from church one night and we saw this "thing" coming toward our car on the highway and we unavoidably ran over the "thing". It had white hair sticking out all over and a face like a human and it looked like it was rabid or "crazed". It was unbelievably weird looking and not like anything i had ever seen before. It was not large like a human but stood approximately 2 to 3 feet high and seemed to be running toward us and into our headlights. I have no other way to describe it since it did not look like anything we had ever seen. My husband slammed on his breaks and stopped to see what it was. He and i both got out of the car and my husband got a tire iron out of the trunk in case it was still alive and rabid. We were scared but since we had never seen anything like this before we wanted to know what it was and see if we could get a closer look. We never found it. We looked for a very long time while the kids watched us through the car windows but never found it. The entire experience was frightening. Four out of five of us in the car saw it. My youngest son had been sleeping in the car so he did not see it but he remembers waking up while my husband and I were searching. My other two children saw the exact same thing we did. All of my children are grown now. To this day we still dont know what it was but I can tell you it was the most evil looking thing I have ever encountered. We now refer to it as a demon.
nice story thanks for posting it ...... . was it running upright on two legs???? did you go back the next day to have a look ????..... thanks again Ej
drussell
Mar 24 2008, 05:03 AM
QUOTE (choateyj @ Mar 24 2008, 12:46 AM)

nice story thanks for posting it ...... . was it running upright on two legs???? did you go back the next day to have a look ????..... thanks again Ej
Yes it was on two legs and yes we did go back to see again in the daylight and found nothing except the tire marks my husband made when slamming on the breaks. Also I failed to mention the front of the car had a small dent about 4 inches across on the front fender to the left (car was new) but we did not see any hair or blood stuck to the car.
The Omega Entity
Mar 24 2008, 06:11 AM
There's been several hundred reported sightings of a bipedal canids, mostly in Michigan and Wisconsin. Some dating back to the 20's. A book entitled Strange Michigan(awaiting release) should document the more recent Michigan accounts.
OldTimeRadio
Mar 24 2008, 10:16 PM
QUOTE (Gunmunky @ Mar 24 2008, 12:47 AM)

I mean a human with dogs head? Just seems rediculous to me.
I'm undecided on this one, but it apparently seems considerably less ridiculous to those individuals who claim to have witnessed the creature.
In any case, might not a bi-pedal canid be perceived as a "dog-man"?
master_jawa
Mar 24 2008, 11:24 PM
The possibility of bipedal dogs roaming around has always been fasinating to me. Although being a marsupial instead of a canid, the Thylacine was capable if standing upright on its hind legs, they could reach 9ft long so standing they'd be about that tall aswell. They could also do some kind of bipedal hop similar to a kangaroo.
If I didn't know any better and saw a 9ft Thylacine standing upright infront of me I'd certainly think it was some kind of Dogman.
Instances like that could have certainly influenced the werewolf myth.
OldTimeRadio
Mar 25 2008, 01:45 AM
As I've written previously there is a bi-pedal dog (a true dog) native to Northern Argentina which quite commonly and easily walks on its two rear legs, of its own volition and without any sort of human training.
Skeptics claim that it explains all the cases of bi-pedal "werewolves" in that country.
Though one might then be tempted to ask why so many Argentinians seem unable to recognize their own home-grown bow-wows.
Mattshark
Mar 25 2008, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ Mar 25 2008, 02:45 AM)

As I've written previously there is a bi-pedal dog (a true dog) native to Northern Argentina which quite commonly and easily walks on its two rear legs, of its own volition and without any sort of human training.
Really? Seen no evidence for that in any of Argentina's 6 species of canid.
OldTimeRadio
Mar 25 2008, 11:39 PM
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Mar 25 2008, 08:09 AM)

Really? Seen no evidence for that in any of Argentina's 6 species of canid.
I'd never even heard of the critter until five or six years ago when a couple of skeptical websites put forth the animal as an explanation for then-recent bi-pedal "werewolf" sightings/encounters in Northern Argentina.
EDIT - changed "fix" to "five" Duh!
chewlip
Mar 26 2008, 12:31 AM
Here is a video of a dog that walks ONLY on it's hind legs (it has no front legs). The dog WAS trained by humans to do this, but it prooves that it is possible for a dog to walk on it's hind legs for extended amounts of time. It's just not their natural trait (obviously). I'm not quite sure of my point... just that it's possible for dogs to walk bipedally. Although, I don't know if this would be possible without human training.
Also, the video amuses me.
Mattshark
Mar 26 2008, 04:42 AM
QUOTE (OldTimeRadio @ Mar 26 2008, 12:39 AM)

I'd never even heard of the critter until fix or six years ago when a couple of skeptical websites put forth the animal as an explanation for then-recent bi-pedal "werewolf" sightings/encounters in Northern Argentina.
I'm sorry to tell you that no such creature exists. I can name every canine species in Argentina if you would like, look for a few seconds and you'll see that none of them can walk on two legs. Websites are sadly a mine of miss-information.
Closed
Mar 26 2008, 05:10 AM
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Mar 25 2008, 11:42 PM)

I'm sorry to tell you that no such creature exists. I can name every canine species in Argentina if you would like, look for a few seconds and you'll see that none of them can walk on two legs. Websites are sadly a mine of miss-information.
Maybe you missed one, and there's a canine that can walked on two legs. Good find if he seen it.
Mattshark
Mar 26 2008, 05:43 AM
QUOTE (WalkingWithFire @ Mar 26 2008, 05:10 AM)

Maybe you missed one, and there's a canine that can walked on two legs. Good find if he seen it.

nope I didn't.
Since 4 of Argentina's canines are fox's, they can ruled out.
They bush dog is tiny.
The maned wolf is found in the south and is not bipedal.
Closed
Mar 26 2008, 05:50 AM
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Mar 26 2008, 12:43 AM)

nope I didn't.
Since 4 of Argentina's canines are fox's, they can ruled out.
They bush dog is tiny.
The maned wolf is found in the south and is not bipedal.
Maybe you missed the other one that walks on two legs? Maybe it hasn't been classified yet due to the difficulty in finding/catching it.
therion24
Mar 26 2008, 06:07 AM
Mattshark
Mar 26 2008, 06:09 AM
QUOTE (WalkingWithFire @ Mar 26 2008, 06:50 AM)

Maybe you missed the other one that walks on two legs? Maybe it hasn't been classified yet due to the difficulty in finding/catching it.
Or much more likely it just doesn't exist.
Closed
Mar 26 2008, 06:22 AM
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Mar 26 2008, 01:09 AM)

Or much more likely it just doesn't exist.
Can you prove that the two-legged dogman doesn't exist? How do you know the guy didn't see it?
Mattshark
Mar 26 2008, 06:23 AM
QUOTE (WalkingWithFire @ Mar 26 2008, 07:22 AM)

Can you prove that the two-legged dogman doesn't exist? How do you know the guy didn't see it?
Don't need to ever prove something does not exist. It exist needs to be proven, not the other way round.
Closed
Mar 26 2008, 06:30 AM
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Mar 26 2008, 01:23 AM)

Don't need to ever prove something does not exist. It exist needs to be proven, not the other way round.
Sounds like trolling to me. You just come into these threads to tell people the creatures they think they've seen don't exist.
Mattshark
Mar 26 2008, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (WalkingWithFire @ Mar 26 2008, 06:30 AM)

Sounds like trolling to me. You just come into these threads to tell people the creatures they think they've seen don't exist.
I would love to be presented with a new and exciting animal, however, if there is dismissable information why should I not dismiss it, if there is incorrect information, why should I not point out it is incorrect.
Ignorance is the worst thing in the world.
Closed
Mar 26 2008, 07:26 AM
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Mar 26 2008, 01:45 AM)

I would love to be presented with a new and exciting animal, however, if there is dismissable information why should I not dismiss it, if there is incorrect information, why should I not point out it is incorrect.
Ignorance is the worst thing in the world.
These people are not saying there are dogmen running all over the place. They're saying they might have seen a dog man by chance. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Who knows?
GreatFenris
Mar 26 2008, 08:14 AM
QUOTE (WalkingWithFire @ Mar 26 2008, 08:26 AM)

These people are not saying there are dogmen running all over the place. They're saying they might have seen a dog man by chance. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Who knows?
And saying "I saw this" on a public internet board means you will get attention to yourself, and to the possibilities of what you saw.
When I was younger, I used to think I saw lots of things, due to being fed stories of the "Grey Man" from my grandmother, who was allegedly a harbinger of death in my fmaily. When I am older, I can realize I saw shadows and projected my notion of what it should be, not what it was.
I believe Wolfmen are pretty much the same thing, a projection of something...Out of fright, imagination or in some cases intoxication.
Wolves are quadrapedal, pack hunters. They've been that way for quite some time. Humans however, share ancestry with simians, which can walk on both two or four legs. In terms of evolutionary logic, I find it more logical we evolved into bipedal stance than a wolf did.
drussell
Mar 31 2008, 09:51 AM
QUOTE (drussell @ Mar 23 2008, 11:12 PM)

About 13 years ago I lived just outside a town called Baraga near L'anse in the upper penninsula of Michigan. My husband and three children were coming home from church one night and we saw this "thing" coming toward our car on the highway and we unavoidably ran over the "thing". It had white hair sticking out all over and a face like a human and it looked like it was rabid or "crazed". It was unbelievably weird looking and not like anything i had ever seen before. It was not large like a human but stood approximately 2 to 3 feet high and seemed to be running toward us and into our headlights. I have no other way to describe it since it did not look like anything we had ever seen. My husband slammed on his breaks and stopped to see what it was. He and i both got out of the car and my husband got a tire iron out of the trunk in case it was still alive and rabid. We were scared but since we had never seen anything like this before we wanted to know what it was and see if we could get a closer look. We never found it. We looked for a very long time while the kids watched us through the car windows but never found it. The entire experience was frightening. Four out of five of us in the car saw it. My youngest son had been sleeping in the car so he did not see it but he remembers waking up while my husband and I were searching. My other two children saw the exact same thing we did. All of my children are grown now. To this day we still dont know what it was but I can tell you it was the most evil looking thing I have ever encountered. We now refer to it as a demon.
A better description.......
What we saw almost looked dwarfish... human face with white hair sticking out all over so much so we couldn't see it's body except for skinny legs and arms. It ran extremely fast and looked angry and it's mouth open as if screaming. My eldest son describes it as looking like the Honeycomb cereal monster but with big slanted eyes. I think thats about the closest description we could give. One thing that baffles me is that we had definitely driven over it with our car and yet could not find it on the side of the road. If anyone were willing to investigate this we would be willing to take a lie detector test. I cannot say it was a dogman. I just dont know what it was.
The Maharaja
Mar 31 2008, 11:06 PM
maybe it was the honeycomb monster,he was searching for the nearest bowl of milk
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