i am designing this topic to see different peoples views on different aspects in age of mythology.

im going to go ahead and start us off with a poll and am going to ask ya'll to elaborate on your answers (tell me why you picked what you did)

the reason that i chose egyptian is because right when they advance they get free watch towers, which makes it impossible to raid. they have flying transport units, their eco is amazing, their army isn't too bad, and isis has the monuments that protects from god powers.

I vote atlantean, because they have better econamy and all manner of things the others don't get (like oracles)

are you talking about who do you like or who do you not like?
eggy gets to do priest spam which is worse than oracles, and they have the towers that watch what you do...
and if you already didn't know egyptians eco boom, and theirs is much more effective than atlanteans

Admittedly, egyptians are better in the long run... unfortunately I favour myth-units over human soldiers and atlanteans are a bit good in the hero department. (especially fanatics which have been made into heros) so they defeat me quite a lot.

when it comes down to what Civ i prefer to play I would say greek (for the myrmadons and the plenty vault power mostly)

true, atlanteans are OK in the hero department, but greek hero's are by far the best, and i dont know what you mean by "myth over human", but egyptian are the ones that spam myth units unless you are greek and decide to spam centaurs

the reason that you usually lose to atleantean is because
1)they are unfair
2)maybe u suxorz, b/c i can beat atty easily with thor (my main god)
3)their army is the most unfair thing that has happened to this game
4)have mucho fantastico economy

i have a quote that i will pm u about atlantean, i need to go find it though.

A topic on age of empires in general would have been nice. I bought two copies of aom and neither would load on my pc:-(

Aye, generally speaking i prefer older strategy games (e.g age of empires 1 or Total Annihilation) Might I suggest a 'strategy games' thread if it's not already been done

It's been years since I played Age of Mythology, but I preferred the Egyptians - mostly because of their undead units, which I considered cool. I don't play many RTS games anymore, but if I had to choose, the Star Wars Empire at War games were pretty cool, or Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth (the original is the better of the two, IMO).

well, for one thing you should start playing again, the undead units are called ancestors and they are a godpower for the heroic or 3rd age, i have never played the starwrs game, i have played lord of the rings and i didn't like it because the graphics arent nearly as good as AoM.

has any1 here played starcraft?

As for your jugdement of LoTR's, you shouldn't judge a game based on one aspect because some pple look at forums (maybe not one like this, but my point is to give an honest review of the entire game, then an opinion) to see if purchasing a game would be worth the money. Just alittle constructive criticism for you, it always helps. I thought it looked awesome on my comp for a scroll RTS. Anyways, for the actual topic, I voted Egypt because those watch towers are rather annoying, but with a steady flow of soldiers, whether they see you or not, their small army can be overwhelmed.

i do admit that i have been judging atlanteans unfairly, it's just kind of upsetting when you search for a rated game and become obliterated by an atlantean because their eco and army are both OP, and i think that it is a great civilization for a beginner to try out, but if you are going to become serious about age of mythology you should pick something else. as for egyptians thier army sux b/c thier eco is the most OP in the whole game
(OP=OverPowering or extremely good) i prefer to play thor, although if i am going unrated and some1 is atty and wont change i will play gaia and show them that they truly stink w/ atty. i am good with them i just think i give perple a better chance if i play thor, and he is more fun to play =P

for anyone who wants to learn either zeus or hades i would go to http://www.agesanctuary.com/ and go to recorded games and lookup yorgmiester. i went to a party with him and played this game and i have to say that this is the best AoM game that i have ever played...ask him he'll agree. but anyways if you want to learn one o =f those 2 gods this would be a really good game for you

Kk ppl yorgmiester has arrived*crowd goes wild*Thank you,thank you,you're too kind

Anyway,i would have to say norse,#1 because they own,#2 because they own,and #3 because they look beastly.Also,they are hard to play,so if you are good at playing them,you will own.Utterly and completely.Of all the norse gods Loki is obviously teh best,Thor second and poor little Odin last.Loki is teh best because his hersirs own(and look beast),plus they give you free MUs.Which is awesome.His rushes own and his fh own,and his mid-game strats,so yea,he owns.PLus BB spam,which massively dominates.
Thor is good because he has uber eco,and better dwarves,but other than that,pfft.He's cool,but not that cool.Reminds me of noobs.Odin just sucks because there's nothing special about him,except the little crows.Woohoo.People play Odin just to be different.He's like,the hippie god.
I'm playin Zues ATM(or i was till aom stopped working ) and he's pretty OP too.Not as OP as Loki,but then again,Loki is much harder to play,so i do better w/Zues.Greeks are the easiest to play(besides atty but atty is not legit),so they are the best to start out with.

Nobody go to our game to learn zues or hades.Plz.There are much better games you could watch.Go to 'expert replays'.Also euph,i don't recall you ever showing anybody how much they suck at any god.Lol.You're usually the one being shown

My review of AoM vs. BFME(battle for middle earth) and/or BFME2

At first glance BFME looks much better because of the greatly superior graphics,but once you really start to play it you (should) realize it's gameplay is sucky.There are a few interesting things about it,like the powers you can buy and such,but really the only use for the game is to stage cool-looking battles.When i say cool-looking battles i mean cool-looking battles.Cuz they are.The graphics are very nice,and the units look awesome,so it can entertain for a while.But in the end it bores you with it's lack of complexity and sucky countering system.The counter system in AoM,on the other hand,is the best of any RTS game i have ever seen.There are so many strategies in AOM,where as in BFME it's basically either attack or defend,depending on your faction.In AOM,it's possible to rush with eggy,the eco boomers,or fh with loki,the rusher.What would happen in BFME if you tried to defend with say,the goblins?There is no way to.You have to attack,or get wiped out.Also the AI in BFME sucks,mostly because of the battalion sysem,which i hate.

So in the end,if you want to play a good RTS game where you can really get into it and play online and climb teh ladders and gain skill and all that good stuff,play aom.If you want to make cool-looking armies,play BFME.

MU=mith unit
BB=battle boar
fh=fast heroic (under 10 min heroic age)
eco=Economy
OP=overpowering

and you can't really talk yorg...you play hours every day, and i only play 1hr a week MAYBE second of my random god is equal if not better than yours. and right now you are point sitting at like 1610 because you know that if you play any other games then you'll lose. i wouldn't abbreviate b/c most of the people onhere don't even know what you are talking about. the only reason that you say that loki and zeus are OP is because they are the only gods that you know how to play whatsoever. think about bashing someone when you suck equally as bad... lol, you play on the computer like 5 hours a day and still i am almost as good if not as good as you...

Chillax buddy...remember the song...don't worry*dudaduDU....*....just relax

Now,let's think about this.I didn't bash you.At all.You are the one currently doing the bashing.And I'm not gonna bash back.I'm gonna explain myself calmly.I never said i was better than you.All i said was that you don't win as much as it sounded like in your posts.That's all i was saying...also...i don't play 5 hours a day...i never have...2 hours at the most.Right now i can't play at all.Also,the reason i said Loki is the best is because i think he is the best.As for zues,i said he was OP,that's all.And i said i was better with him than i am with Loki,since Loki is harder to play.You want to know why my rate is 1610?Because i can't play aom.For obvious reasons i can't get online and raise or lower it.Why would i care about my smurf account's rate anyway?Think about it...

Try to not bash people for something so small.Compare what i said to you in my post and what u said back,and i think you'll see what i mean.


luv ya buddy

Obviously, none of you know what you're talking about.

euthanasia, idk what game you're talking about, but I'm talking about AoM/AoM:TT here.

Greek is by far the hardest god to beat, I'll show why (and give some counter eggy, norse, and atty strats to the nubs)

Greek OP:
-Army trains uber fast
-Army is the most powerful in classical (yes, even more so than atty. try hoplite vs. katapeltes, hoplite vs. murmillo, hoplite vs. turma, see who wins)
-GPs massively own (earthquake can turn an entire game around, killing ~40 units and 5-10 buildings)
-Heroes can do MAJOR damage (a classical age hero can kill around 6 classical age human units before dying)
-Economy > norse and atty economy (not better than egyptians, regretabbly)

The reasons go on, trust me.

Greek reasons not only outnumber but outweigh those of any other civilization.

Outboom an egyptian, rush an atlantean, spam a norse. they're pretty simple counters, really.


VS. egyptian, get 2 tcs within 7 minutes and go to the heroic age and play defensively. you'll probably win.

VS. norse, outnumber + counter their troops, and surround every gold mine near their base =gg

VS. an atty, spam cavalry and archers, and you'll win. if there's one thing a nooby atlantean does, they spam turma like crazy and nothing else.


that's pretty much it. Greek > all.

euthanasia, stop bashing yorgmiester. yorgmiester plays loki to 1580 and zeus to 1600, you play thor to 1570 and hades to 1600. you're practically even.

and speaking of saying "yorg you can't talk, you only play two gods"

when was the last time i saw you playing egyptian, atlantean, or norse other than thor?

gg, no re.

then how come you often get beat with greek i mean not to sound rude or anything but if greek is so hard to beat and i mean you win alot of your greek games, but you also lose some too. does that say anything about the others? for some people greek is hardest to beat, and for others egyptian is and atty, and norse.

also, "when was the last time i saw you playing egyptian, atlantean, or norse other than thor?"

When was the last time you saw me play aom?

gg, but i still want re wit yorg and no tips

XD 111111111111
try gettin that one past syringe

He agrees with me

thats not what he said to me...

we should hate him.

Hey Guys!

Well personally i think that the norse are the best, why? Well because against other civilizations there is almost no defence against a well executed rush or atleast a 6minute attack.

6minutes is when i usually attack but sometimes i manage to pull off a 5:30. And all thanks to my strategy im a 1669. Add me! FFR_StRaNgLeR

Only add me if you play the expansion aot though, no point adding me if you play aom online. =)

Oh and i reckon the sciencario cannibal survival is the meanest!

I mean think about it, normally i would build a temple then advance and if i have enough resources i would start making hersirs (heros) and then possibly i would make another temple to speed up the training. Then myth unit comes out. It is a proven fact by me that when yu get two of those Einjerheirs or whatever and you use Hemidalls god power that building destroying god power and attack there TC there tc is gone.

Buht usually i just walk in there, start destroying there towers, raid them, or just friggin go straight for them, corner them into there own base and you've got a win on your hands. I know this because i play with the 1700++ 3v3 is very fun with them.

And logically speaking when you raid your opponent they will attack you with their soldiers exposing what units your opponent makes.
From their its quite easy to choose what you want to make and easily take them out. But DO NOT and i repeat DO NOT take your time. Norse is only good at classical and when there attacks are fast and swift. They are easily beaten if the game carries on for too long.

Hope you guys learn something

im not so sure thats true
the GP takes down about a forth of the town center, and the Einjerheirs wouldn't kill the TC fast enough.

im not sure why you think they have the BEST defense out of all the civilizations, considering they have to pay for thier tower upgrade, when egyptians get it free. norse can only upgrade their walls once, and egyptians can upgrade like 2 or 3 times. do you mind sharing your onlie acc name?

Nothing i didn't already know lol

Anyway,yes the norse(more specifically loki)rush onwes,but it's not quite as easy as you make it out to be,if the people your playing against know how to play aom.It's only that easy if the person you are fighting is much worse then you.

also euph i believe he said that no other civ has a good defence against a norse rush,not that norse has good defense.Of course,neither of those statements are true

eggy could fast classic and have good def against norse rush...

lol nice 3rd sentence a.k.a. jonathan or josh or NICK LMFAO!!@!@!@!#12!@312!!!!!

Isis has fh,all eggy have free towers,hades has sents,kronos has deconstruct,gaia has gaia forest.Aside from those specific anti-rush "things",all teh gods have strats for defending a rush.Even norse have anti-rush strats.

But you see that even though it costs to upgrade the norse tower what use is it when you are attacking/raiding? Building a tower would only use up more resources and slow the process of your attack. And whats the point of eggy advancing so early? I mean they need resources real bad and are quite pathetic compared to the other civilizations in classic. And even though eggy does get free tower upgrade so what? My raiders will take them out and what will you do? You dont get the improvement that attacks units until heroic therefore a constant raiding of the towers will take out the opponent.

Oh and dont tell your going to kill me with your priests because they are useless unless there are MU's around. And adding to the fact that your eggy troops are only good against one kind of unit. So i could easily take a eggy army. Because there barrack takes a ridiculous time to make and by that time i would of raided you and even if you do manage to advance early so what? Your resources wont be as useful as mine.

But dont get me wrong in anyway some eggy players have beaten me in the past and i have continued to trial and error my strategy against my opponents. Depends on how they are playing and where the resources are and what units they make.

Oh by the way i play AOT so the expansion and my ign is FFR_StRaNgLeR.

Fh may take a while with Isis and i would of attack by then plus adding to the fact that the midgol stronghold takes a while to build.

Hades has those sents? You mean those souls, easy destroy the temple and if they use the archer GP around his town centre it just makes it more fun.

Kronos has deconstruct lol. I would just rebuild it and since there exploring of the map is slow it would be a challenge to find me.
Gaia.. What would trees do? Id just walk around them lol.

And you havent even considered the other Gods in the civilizations. I would be very interested to see a Loki v Loki game though. And they have the same strategy (attack early, hard and fast) That would be one hell of a game lol.

Hmm obviously you have never played isis???Most people that know how to fh w/isis will get to heroic at under 10 minutes.Meanwhile they spam priests and several mu's and stay close to their base.They start building houses around the towers in the first age,and by the time they up they have their towers protected.No need for eggy's crappy classical units,when priests can do the job for them.Maybe make a few more towers if you need to.As long as you keep the priests near the towers and tc you can defend any raid.Then when you herois around 9:30 or 10:00,you build migdols and spam chariots and ellies.All the while defending against the raids by staying close to your base,your migdols,and towers.After that it's a simple matter of e+a and it's usually over.

Hades has sentinals.I doubt anyone would say shades were an anti-rush tactic Sentinals,on the other hand,are an excellent anti-rush device.It's annoying when instead of 4 towers to deal with you have 8,plus to destroy the extra 4 you hafta get right next to the tc.Add the uber greek heroes and it's nearly impossible to rush him,unless he's alot worse than you.

Deconstruct is exremely useful.All you have to do is find their temple(which with atty is very easy because of oracles) and than wait till it's almost done.Then they have to rebuild it again.Which takes another minute.Which is alot of time when you are rushing.By the time you get it re-built your enemy will be well on their way to classical.

Gaia forest is an effective tower defence.You can't destroy the tress with raiders,so basically you have to go to heroic and get siege weps before you can destroy them.Which defeats the purpose of a rush.

Yah know i had the best idea HAHA!!

Screw the blabbering lets settle this 1v1

I chose Egyptian cuz' I was sick when I played that part so I think that effected me.

Eh?

lol, i don't think he quite got the question, you're supposed to say witch civ you think is hardest to defeat in a match. I have switched to using Kronos, although now i believe atlantean are not noob civs because they are easily countered. I am going to try and switch and become better with isis or set now, b/c priest and mu spam owns atlantean 1)b/c they rely on mu's in the second age and you can counter with priests, and 2)b/c their heros are so expensive, so you can just mu (mith unit) spam away unless they get free hero gp.

been about 2 weeks since i played