This is gonna be brief cause I got to go soon, but will be updated soon.
The world is full of signs and symbols. To the layman who do not understand the signs and symbols they see willingly or unwillingly they might mean anything. But to the barer of the knowledge of the symbols and signs they might mean something evil or good, although they might describe it as quite the opposite.
The difference between what you willingly see and what you unwilling see is the interpretation by the subconscious and the ID.
They are able to interpret not only just the symbol, but the energy given off from them by the proper governing of the senses, which the senses can take in but are not always properly percieved by the conscious.
The reason why our conscious can't percieve it properly is because of the constant programming we are bombarded with that we aren't really aware of. Because this programming cancels the awareness of this perception by the conscious, but not to the subconscious which this programming needs to control your actions or state of mind.
If you message me I will be happy to tell you what kind of programming we recieve on a daily basis and what it may look like.
But that isn't where I want to go with this topic.
Everyday we see signs and symbols whether through news papers or commercials or that hot new cartoon or comic or movie from the latest film association such as lion gate, which is best known for it's horror movies.
This bombardment of signs and symbols can cause an array of consequences from fear, depression, pschytsophrania, to even killing a person without the memory of it.
All thats needed is the right occaision to for the right individual to manipulate against an unwitting person by send out the message of proper symbols.
Horror movies are best known for the nightmares that they bring upon individuals who get nightmares from horror movies.
This creates fear, which makes it easier for these symbols to manipulate you, fear is a powerful energy. Just look at all americans in america. Many of them are so affraid of dieing that nearly no one will stand up to the bush administration and their military and militarized police.
What many people of america don't know is that whether or not their affraid of dieing, many, if not all of them will die because that is the plans of the bush administration and their handlers, and their handlers-handlers.
The ability to manipulate a person is so easy, they the elite and those they have programmed have been using the same couple of books to program most if not all of the world. Books such as the Bible, and the kabballah. For anyone to say they are not programmed by these books is to say they make their own way through life. Even indians who have never seen these two books are controlled by to some extent by their religion and their practices and their heritages.
To know the truth is even a programming of sorts that can be manipulated by doubt instilled in your from birth. Because no one is certain that the knowledge or wisdom they have gained is the truth. Even if things always seem to work out as if it is the truth, can be changed by a simple tweak of physics. An example of this is mother nature.
And now my story.
When I was young signs and symbols were my only guidance through life. I knew from my inability to interpret fully what education brought me that I had to find something that worked for me. I had/have a dissociative problem. It's sorta like being able to see an object or see information, but not being to understand or relate to what I'm seeing. So it's almost like being blind in a way.
So as I grew up I had to often rely on my ability to see symbols and signs to stay alive.
After awhile though this ability to see the symbols and signs started controlling the way I think.
This was a bad thing for me, because when I dissociate it's the only things I can really see.
So about the age of 20 I met a guy, (yes by this time I was a bi-sexual male.) Anyhoo he got me started on the drug coriciden cough and cold. This made my disociation worste, which eventually helped in causing DID (disociative Identity Disorder) formally known as MPD (multiple Personality- Disorder.)
As of now my ability to see and interpret signs and symbols has increased 3-fold. But the manipulation since I embarked on my quest to understand/interpret the signs and symbols have often landed me in the hospital, by my own stupidity only, VIA the drug CCC.
But that does not mean I don't understand what the symbols and signs are and look like, it just means I have let down my guard.
so what is this bulleton about? It's about one persons experience in MKULTRA which is still a CIA tactic for trauma and other mind based control.
It was supposed to be stopped back in the late 70's early 80's, but the need for it was so vital that it went underground.
Now I say although I wasn't a iniciant of the program by will or force, I was controlled such as many of you unwittingly.
Message me for information on just exactly what MKULTRA is and what it has in common with the GAY bomb. The information about this might startle many unwitting in the closet or out of the closet bi-sexuals, gay, and lesbians.
I am a so called conspiracy theorist, but 9/11 was only a catalyst in starting my research into all of the stored information that I have acquired.
We are all skeptics to some extent, but giveing a skeptical opinion without searching for the truth or what is strong enough proof as to the truth, is to mean you enjoy the lie you live in or that you are unwilling to find out what or who it is that controls your every action or even makes you- you.
Message me if you have any questions, enjoy.
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QUOTE (nothingliz @ Mar 18 2008, 11:32 PM) 
This is gonna be brief cause I got to go soon, but will be updated soon.
The world is full of signs and symbols. To the layman who do not understand the signs and symbols they see willingly or unwillingly they might mean anything. But to the barer of the knowledge of the symbols and signs they might mean something evil or good, although they might describe it as quite the opposite.
The difference between what you willingly see and what you unwilling see is the interpretation by the subconscious and the ID.
They are able to interpret not only just the symbol, but the energy given off from them by the proper governing of the senses, which the senses can take in but are not always properly percieved by the conscious.
The reason why our conscious can't percieve it properly is because of the constant programming we are bombarded with that we aren't really aware of. Because this programming cancels the awareness of this perception by the conscious, but not to the subconscious which this programming needs to control your actions or state of mind.
If you message me I will be happy to tell you what kind of programming we recieve on a daily basis and what it may look like.
But that isn't where I want to go with this topic.
Everyday we see signs and symbols whether through news papers or commercials or that hot new cartoon or comic or movie from the latest film association such as lion gate, which is best known for it's horror movies.
This bombardment of signs and symbols can cause an array of consequences from fear, depression, pschytsophrania, to even killing a person without the memory of it.
All thats needed is the right occaision to for the right individual to manipulate against an unwitting person by send out the message of proper symbols.
Horror movies are best known for the nightmares that they bring upon individuals who get nightmares from horror movies.
This creates fear, which makes it easier for these symbols to manipulate you, fear is a powerful energy. Just look at all americans in america. Many of them are so affraid of dieing that nearly no one will stand up to the bush administration and their military and militarized police.
What many people of america don't know is that whether or not their affraid of dieing, many, if not all of them will die because that is the plans of the bush administration and their handlers, and their handlers-handlers.
The ability to manipulate a person is so easy, they the elite and those they have programmed have been using the same couple of books to program most if not all of the world. Books such as the Bible, and the kabballah. For anyone to say they are not programmed by these books is to say they make their own way through life. Even indians who have never seen these two books are controlled by to some extent by their religion and their practices and their heritages.
To know the truth is even a programming of sorts that can be manipulated by doubt instilled in your from birth. Because no one is certain that the knowledge or wisdom they have gained is the truth. Even if things always seem to work out as if it is the truth, can be changed by a simple tweak of physics. An example of this is mother nature.
And now my story.
When I was young signs and symbols were my only guidance through life. I knew from my inability to interpret fully what education brought me that I had to find something that worked for me. I had/have a dissociative problem. It's sorta like being able to see an object or see information, but not being to understand or relate to what I'm seeing. So it's almost like being blind in a way.
So as I grew up I had to often rely on my ability to see symbols and signs to stay alive.
After awhile though this ability to see the symbols and signs started controlling the way I think.
This was a bad thing for me, because when I dissociate it's the only things I can really see.
So about the age of 20 I met a guy, (yes by this time I was a bi-sexual male.) Anyhoo he got me started on the drug coriciden cough and cold. This made my disociation worste, which eventually helped in causing DID (disociative Identity Disorder) formally known as MPD (multiple Personality- Disorder.)
As of now my ability to see and interpret signs and symbols has increased 3-fold. But the manipulation since I embarked on my quest to understand/interpret the signs and symbols have often landed me in the hospital, by my own stupidity only, VIA the drug CCC.
But that does not mean I don't understand what the symbols and signs are and look like, it just means I have let down my guard.
so what is this bulleton about? It's about one persons experience in MKULTRA which is still a CIA tactic for trauma and other mind based control.
It was supposed to be stopped back in the late 70's early 80's, but the need for it was so vital that it went underground.
Now I say although I wasn't a iniciant of the program by will or force, I was controlled such as many of you unwittingly.
Message me for information on just exactly what MKULTRA is and what it has in common with the GAY bomb. The information about this might startle many unwitting in the closet or out of the closet bi-sexuals, gay, and lesbians.
I am a so called conspiracy theorist, but 9/11 was only a catalyst in starting my research into all of the stored information that I have acquired.
We are all skeptics to some extent, but giveing a skeptical opinion without searching for the truth or what is strong enough proof as to the truth, is to mean you enjoy the lie you live in or that you are unwilling to find out what or who it is that controls your every action or even makes you- you.
Message me if you have any questions, enjoy.
The world is full of signs and symbols. To the layman who do not understand the signs and symbols they see willingly or unwillingly they might mean anything. But to the barer of the knowledge of the symbols and signs they might mean something evil or good, although they might describe it as quite the opposite.
The difference between what you willingly see and what you unwilling see is the interpretation by the subconscious and the ID.
They are able to interpret not only just the symbol, but the energy given off from them by the proper governing of the senses, which the senses can take in but are not always properly percieved by the conscious.
The reason why our conscious can't percieve it properly is because of the constant programming we are bombarded with that we aren't really aware of. Because this programming cancels the awareness of this perception by the conscious, but not to the subconscious which this programming needs to control your actions or state of mind.
If you message me I will be happy to tell you what kind of programming we recieve on a daily basis and what it may look like.
But that isn't where I want to go with this topic.
Everyday we see signs and symbols whether through news papers or commercials or that hot new cartoon or comic or movie from the latest film association such as lion gate, which is best known for it's horror movies.
This bombardment of signs and symbols can cause an array of consequences from fear, depression, pschytsophrania, to even killing a person without the memory of it.
All thats needed is the right occaision to for the right individual to manipulate against an unwitting person by send out the message of proper symbols.
Horror movies are best known for the nightmares that they bring upon individuals who get nightmares from horror movies.
This creates fear, which makes it easier for these symbols to manipulate you, fear is a powerful energy. Just look at all americans in america. Many of them are so affraid of dieing that nearly no one will stand up to the bush administration and their military and militarized police.
What many people of america don't know is that whether or not their affraid of dieing, many, if not all of them will die because that is the plans of the bush administration and their handlers, and their handlers-handlers.
The ability to manipulate a person is so easy, they the elite and those they have programmed have been using the same couple of books to program most if not all of the world. Books such as the Bible, and the kabballah. For anyone to say they are not programmed by these books is to say they make their own way through life. Even indians who have never seen these two books are controlled by to some extent by their religion and their practices and their heritages.
To know the truth is even a programming of sorts that can be manipulated by doubt instilled in your from birth. Because no one is certain that the knowledge or wisdom they have gained is the truth. Even if things always seem to work out as if it is the truth, can be changed by a simple tweak of physics. An example of this is mother nature.
And now my story.
When I was young signs and symbols were my only guidance through life. I knew from my inability to interpret fully what education brought me that I had to find something that worked for me. I had/have a dissociative problem. It's sorta like being able to see an object or see information, but not being to understand or relate to what I'm seeing. So it's almost like being blind in a way.
So as I grew up I had to often rely on my ability to see symbols and signs to stay alive.
After awhile though this ability to see the symbols and signs started controlling the way I think.
This was a bad thing for me, because when I dissociate it's the only things I can really see.
So about the age of 20 I met a guy, (yes by this time I was a bi-sexual male.) Anyhoo he got me started on the drug coriciden cough and cold. This made my disociation worste, which eventually helped in causing DID (disociative Identity Disorder) formally known as MPD (multiple Personality- Disorder.)
As of now my ability to see and interpret signs and symbols has increased 3-fold. But the manipulation since I embarked on my quest to understand/interpret the signs and symbols have often landed me in the hospital, by my own stupidity only, VIA the drug CCC.
But that does not mean I don't understand what the symbols and signs are and look like, it just means I have let down my guard.
so what is this bulleton about? It's about one persons experience in MKULTRA which is still a CIA tactic for trauma and other mind based control.
It was supposed to be stopped back in the late 70's early 80's, but the need for it was so vital that it went underground.
Now I say although I wasn't a iniciant of the program by will or force, I was controlled such as many of you unwittingly.
Message me for information on just exactly what MKULTRA is and what it has in common with the GAY bomb. The information about this might startle many unwitting in the closet or out of the closet bi-sexuals, gay, and lesbians.
I am a so called conspiracy theorist, but 9/11 was only a catalyst in starting my research into all of the stored information that I have acquired.
We are all skeptics to some extent, but giveing a skeptical opinion without searching for the truth or what is strong enough proof as to the truth, is to mean you enjoy the lie you live in or that you are unwilling to find out what or who it is that controls your every action or even makes you- you.
Message me if you have any questions, enjoy.
Interesting.
Just because you're paranoid, it doesnt meant that people arent out to get you.....
Aren't signs and symbols powerless per se? Like a written word, without a perception of an underlying meaning it (symbol, sign, or written word) is meaningless? Take the word "mbvt8x" for example. The word has no power because we don't know what it refers to; therefore, the word has no power to convey any meaning in our mind. However, the word "bear" does have an underlying meaning and may invoke an emotion (fear, happiness, etc.) in the reader of this word.
Pls enlighten me on how symbols and signs can carry power on their own. Thanks!
Pls enlighten me on how symbols and signs can carry power on their own. Thanks!
u should try to be less confusing. but got the gist of it. i know what u mean. let me tell u about me...i have crazy special dreams. these dreams allow me to prewiew an event that will happen the next day....no joke. dont get me wrong, i dont dream like this always. anyways, whatever i dream about, happens and if not, the topic is brought up. for example. i had a dream that a smake was chasing me. no matter how far or fast i ran, it was right behind me trying to strike me. the next day, my brother was telling me about the annunaki and how they were dominant rulers and predaters back in the day. if u dont know about the anunaki they were a supreme reptilian race that ruled over humans thousands of years ago. in my brotheres discussion, i remebered my dream and told him that snakes(which duh, are reptilians) have always been dominat pradaters.
heres another example. i took a pic of an old chapel's wondow and when i saw the pic, i saw a emonic old ladies face. seriously. no joke. the next day, i wake up ND I SAW FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, THE TRAILER TO THE MOVIE..SHUTTER. how creepy is that? the movie is about spirit photography, which i do on a regular basis. i have lots of scary evidence. i will u the old lady pic.
heres another example. i took a pic of an old chapel's wondow and when i saw the pic, i saw a emonic old ladies face. seriously. no joke. the next day, i wake up ND I SAW FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, THE TRAILER TO THE MOVIE..SHUTTER. how creepy is that? the movie is about spirit photography, which i do on a regular basis. i have lots of scary evidence. i will u the old lady pic.
please elaborate on the subject...I know we must ignore a fair amount of the information we receive in order to survive but however there are various effects visible in our attitude and state of mind. I believe there are symbols that each of us associates with previous experiences, but I would like to know if there are ways of being more aware of the subtle influences the world around us has on a person...how exactly may one begin to "see" consciously.
QUOTE (SoCrazes @ Mar 22 2008, 07:39 PM)
Aren't signs and symbols powerless per se? Like a written word, without a perception of an underlying meaning it (symbol, sign, or written word) is meaningless? Take the word "mbvt8x" for example. The word has no power because we don't know what it refers to; therefore, the word has no power to convey any meaning in our mind. However, the word "bear" does have an underlying meaning and may invoke an emotion (fear, happiness, etc.) in the reader of this word.
Pls enlighten me on how symbols and signs can carry power on their own. Thanks!
Pls enlighten me on how symbols and signs can carry power on their own. Thanks!
symbols get meaning from other symbols.
I can ascociate "mbvt8x" with "bear" so that mbvt8x now means bear. If this is done sub-consciously, you will have a very hard time noticing it.
this doesn't only come from a mabey conspiracy by cia, or with cia research...
It is everyday and everybody.
Without this we cannot talk.
without constructs in your mind from the very moment you were conscious, you could never understand sight, sound, smell, blah blah blah...
everything is based on something else.
culture, society, family... all bound by common symbols, without which we are "seperate"
there is a reason that dxm, salvia, lsd, pscilicybe are frowned upon, and most are illegal... they are construct killing...
once again though, I am not going all conspiracy with this, everyone limits everyone else so that we are together, not left behind in the dark.
we do this from fear. Fear of being alone, so we need common experience and ways of experienceing.
the people who made it illegal to use said substances did so out of fear, probably not even realizing their true fear.
and they are the same who fear different or free thinking.
I am not affraid of being alone.
I am not affraid to rearrange symbols in my head or try and kill them.
In doing so I am less integrated into society. Something I have to live with...
to NothingLiz: I too was disasociated to the point of not being able to see why I am "henry" and not anyone else walking around.
This only came about when I was around 4, and only intermittently. I can see where you are coming from. I can see the exact meaning you were trying to convey.
I can also tell you that it is hard to talk about this level of consciousness, because everyone has those symbols. and the symbols block the blank slate behind it, making it difficult to get through to people about this topic. It's not anyone's fault, and then on top of that YOU have to use symbols to talk about symbols, in the first place lol...
did I explain my view clearly enough?
-muddy
EDIT: here I found this, and this explains what I was trying to say: YOUTUBE LINK
and this one too
I just found these after I wrote all the above by the way...
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