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Egyptian-Illuminati
This may sound like a drug trip, and maybe it was; nothing illegal of course, but possible and experienced nonetheless.

I experienced something you can never explain, but i will do my best.
I was at a friends house, sitting on his leather couch with many other friends there as well. Of course i had my normal concious operating normally, and nothing different with my attitude whatsoever.
And then i started to realize, my reality was turning over(no feeling of it happening!), and i was experiencing layers of reality, and when my friends talked to me, i was getting more scared and scared, realizing this reality was not my reality! And that i was on a whole different perspective and there was nothing i could do about it! Like i was a part of the wall of reality, kind of. It almost seemed as if i was being controlled, of sorts, and my 'normal' reality and concious greatly questioned itself, 'is this real? it is, it must be! what the helllll!", and omg it seemed reality stretched into control, and i ended up back on the couch again once i started to come to my actual perspective!

What really happened to me is totally unexplainable in terms, and can only be experienced if your prone, experienced and wanting to learn metaphysics built into your mind from a lifetime of learning. (What i meant was, if you were to go into this timesplitting reality like i did, you would probably lose control)
My friends told me i got up off the couch, mysteriously walked through a complete maze of musical instruments without touching any of them, and walked directly into the wall and screamed.

Anyway, if any of you have experienced the like, please tell me!
Egyptian-Illuminati
This one experience, the only experience i ever had like this, now makes me question our own reality.

-What if this is one big dream? Probable
-What if this universal reality is an Abstract reality, relating to abstract art? Going forever?
-How many vortexes, wormholes, planes of existence, black holes, galaxies, conciousnesses, perspectives are there?
PulsE
i also keep on questioning reality but i do not have experience such as yours
since i was a child i keep on asking myself that, What if all of this are just dreams?
majority of the people would just accept scientific explanations for all things
i even doubt science inspite of its credibility
but i always keep myself open

anyway think first for acceptable explanations before jumping to something
Egyptian-Illuminati
QUOTE (PulsE @ Mar 19 2008, 03:56 PM) *
majority of the people would just accept scientific explanations for all things
i even doubt science inspite of its credibility

Science, in laymans terms, is an attempt at concreting our own perspected reality, so we can understand it. The thing wrong with science is that the model doesnt work! Reality is ever changing, unexpecting, and new forms of manifestations will occur. Science will not unravel any mystery with Metaphysics, its too metamorphable, it just has to sink into those skulls who rely on science to prove things.
Sporkling
skulls?
ai_guardian
There's only one reality. What you have experienced is a different perception of reality to the perception you're used to. It may be legal but it is dangerous, that's why when you posted it the first time it was dutifully deleted. You yourself said that if someone else experienced it they would most likely lose control, why then encourage it (by giving details). Anyway, you have toned it down so on with the show.

Have I had experiences like that before, well, I have walked into a wall before grin2.gif Seriously though, I've had experiences without ANY substances that would make you lose control, if you could ever experience them that is. Deep meditation, sleep deprivation both can give you some desired/undesired experiences also.

But most of all, I wanted to point out that what you experienced was not "reality within reality" but different perception of reality. wink2.gif

Cheers
Caana
Sometimes, you experiance the memory's of what you had once experianced at that moment, and enact stuff like you described. You say you were navigateing musical instrument's, but your friends saw you stagger around, and then bumb into the wall?

I call those layered experiance overlays, as to what you are percieving in the here and now, and what you had once experianced before. It is all in your mind, the different memory's of these changes. It is as you described, like you were someone else different from the persn you believe yourself to be.

Like being on the moon{luna}

Don't fear though, it really is you, just with a different mindset and perspectives/knowledge/ability's from the other reality you are living. There is not only one percieved reality, the only reality is yourself.

You do right to ignore those who only are experianceing one diminsion, even within the illusion of the percieved reality they think of as the only reality. They are usaully moored by those thing's which comprise their percieved reality here, with the reinforcements of those thing's called normal and factual, and of course, the people who tell them it is.

They will never know what you have experianced, and so are bound to the illusuion they are a part of, in their limited perceptions of it. These experiances are for yourself, does it really matter to you what others think of it? They have no clue or anything like that, and never will. They are the scenary so to speak, learn from them if you don't already know something, but don't ever take them seriously as real, because they don't know what reality really is, or comprised of.

It would be like an evolutionist asking a question about it in a bible class. grin2.gif
Mr.Dot
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Parhaps your awareness expanded, or maybe not.
ships-cat
I think I've experienced this... or something like it.

There is a sensation of 'disassociation'; that I am not really me, and that everything I'm experiencing is a daydream. I find myself thinking "who is thinking these thoughts ? And who is thinking about who is thinking these thoughts".... sort of layers of an onion style of thing.

It is a very difficult concept to explain. After a couple of minutes, the sensation passes and I am back to normal again. (for a given value of 'normal' )

Meow Purr.
Egyptian-Illuminati
I specifically remember asking myself 'how is everyone acting normal on their part, but nothing is normal anywhere!! im so confused, and i cant control whats happening??', and then is where i got a huge sense of fear, as if it was never gonna end, as if i was stuck in this dimension, and there was no way out. I couldnt help myself but bragg to everyone right about when the trip was gonna end, and i stated:

"Ohhhh mann!!! I cant wait to write all of this down!!! Wow, totally unbelievable, WOWW... heres the couch, yes im back. GUYS YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT I JUST EXPERIENCED"

And yeah thats when they said i got up, and told me what happened. I have NO memory WHATSOEVER of me ever leaving to couch! That was the scary part.
Egyptian-Illuminati
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Mar 20 2008, 01:00 PM) *
There is a sensation of 'disassociation'; that I am not really me, and that everything I'm experiencing is a daydream. I find myself thinking "who is thinking these thoughts ? And who is thinking about who is thinking these thoughts".... sort of layers of an onion style of thing.

Yes, thats the feeling... when you see people talking in the environment/reality you are in, you feel disassociated, indefinately.
It does have a very daydream-esc feeling to it, but its EXACTLY as real as it was before you started. Just not the same.
Eventually, reality seems to turn, turn, and turn, and all of this perspecting results in the only descriptive description as "onion layers", peeling, and showing. Very nice, you described most of it.

and Caana, i really loved your post, thanks. grin2.gif
Caana
QUOTE (Egyptian-Illuminati @ Mar 20 2008, 02:38 PM) *
Yes, thats the feeling... when you see people talking in the environment/reality you are in, you feel disassociated, indefinately.
It does have a very daydream-esc feeling to it, but its EXACTLY as real as it was before you started. Just not the same.
Eventually, reality seems to turn, turn, and turn, and all of this perspecting results in the only descriptive description as "onion layers", peeling, and showing. Very nice, you described most of it.

and Caana, i really loved your post, thanks. grin2.gif


Your welcome. To go with that, i would like to elaberate the comment made by another poster about expanding awareness. Through my own experiances, i have found that there are two types of expanding awareness. First, the type you described was an actual event within the probability's of direction that you had once experianced, and as you found out at the end of the experiance, happened to you within the probability of what is called reality in the percieved here and now. The disasociated feeling you had had. If they happen to you frequently, then you can learn to control yourself during these event's, and watch the differences from the two probability lines called time, without enacting the other actual event within this probability line. In effect, you can see/know the different paths of time.

The second is the expanding of your awareness within the present probability's that make up your impression of what is still called linear time, and reality. Energy carries inconcevable amounts of information in what i call streams. Compare that with the anology's in thing's like genesis in the bible, which was a description of what i am trying to convey to you, the fruit from the tree being the knowledge within that particular set of probability's that make up our shared percieved reality, or information stream. Or what some call the tree/garden, of their percieved lives and reality.

Pretty much you have discovered that there is an "outside" which as a description is'nt entirely accurate, but terminology's here are limited. You have discovered what those who realize, and learn, and develop these thing's from, are not subject to what some call syncronicity/fate, they are the ones who shape it, and not by simply creating other probability event's within the data stream of information called reality. That is because there are what i call hardpoint probability event's that can't be stopped from happening, only midigated to either increase or lessen the impacts from. The probability events that lead up to hardpoint event's, can go several way's without effecting the continuity of the data streams hardpoints. Means you can have different friends and careers between those hardpoint's, then you percieve yourself as having now without changeing the bigger picture.

Pretty much is the meaning when the religious say their belief god already know's time from beginning to end. Would'nt mind having a dialog on all this, but would like to keep it to impressions factual to the people who have these experiance's, and have learned from them as i have.

Anyway, within the percieved reality of the data stream, is the entire content's of that tree and it's fruit{knowledge} also, when i say data stream, it is also reffrenced in religious works as water, though what they think of it is a distortment caused from dogmatic belief's, which is why belief is the killer here{barrier between your percieved self, and realself/realtrueself. The number three really does mean something} all that is instrumental in an individuals discovery of the reality of themselves.

If and when you get to the point where all you have to do is focus on someone or event from history, and start recieving the truth of it through what i had called memory/visions, that is when you really need to keep the focus of it all on yourself, if you have any belief's about where this is all coming from, instead of the obvious answer of yourself, that is when you will be in danger of turning yourself into that which must be despised{religious/spiritualist/spiritual} and will fall back into the layers that make up the different percieved reality's based on belief's, instead of what really is.

Once you figure all that out for yourself, that is when you will start to get images/conversations/knowledge of the people and other thing's you may put your focus on. Just be sure to remember it is from yourself, and the only purpose of it is what you may decide to do with it. Any outside belief as to why you can do these thing's, except from yourself, will start to cause manifestations from the layers formed from those belief's, and all the horrors/tortures/sufferings inspired from those belief's. What i call the layers.

Anyway, if you want some more of what i know and think about it, then feel free to ask, because there is quite a bit about the truth of it all. Some of which i can't write on a public forum, because those enslaved to belief's would be offended, and it reveals the truth about their own pathetic civilization and the lies and murders it is actually built on. And what it is they have been hiding from us all.

Later then. grin2.gif
ethereal scout
Egyptian-Illuminati:

Welcome to the club - we've been waiting for the masons to catch up.

Oh, by the way, that challange - to make a square wheel - it was a joke.

For your info - it takes 2 pi to form a circle.
Mademoiselle
QUOTE (Egyptian-Illuminati @ Mar 19 2008, 06:09 PM) *
Science, in laymans terms, is an attempt at concreting our own perspected reality, so we can understand it. The thing wrong with science is that the model doesnt work! Reality is ever changing, unexpecting, and new forms of manifestations will occur. Science will not unravel any mystery with Metaphysics, its too metamorphable, it just has to sink into those skulls who rely on science to prove things.


Science is incomplete . But science doesn't know that . It doesn't even think .
Leonardo
There is a reverse condition of 'deja vu' known as 'jamais vu' which is the sense of unfamiliarity in familiar surroundings. I have experienced this several times and I believe it might be a similar experience to what you are describing E-I.

Sama,

Of course science doesn't think! It's simply the sum of the knowledge scientists have gleaned. It's the scientists who think and believe me when I say scientists are very aware science is incomplete.
Gunmunky
"If life is an illusion then I too am an illusion"
Maybe it's a glitch in The Matrix. I guess reality is what you make of it. But for me, I certainly feel like there's more out there. More than this. Whatever "This" is it is only a small part in a bigger machine.
Reality is so confusing!!!
Egyptian-Illuminati
No i believe our conciousness and self of beings is accustomed to this perspective on reality.... evolution in the early stages gave us the perception. What i can say is our minds were formed to be normal around this reality, and when we die we lose all of it, and our energy will then expand into all realities.
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