America is admittedly fascinated with serial killers, so where all all the movies closely based on these stories? All I ever hear about it Dahmer the Zodiac and Mansom, hardly the most gruesome. Thoughts?

Wolf Creek is a good one, based on the Australian serial killer.

Where are the movies? Texas chainsaw masacre, bundy, summer of 75, monster - those are just quick off the top of my head, boston strangler....movies have been made about almost all the serial killers.....ever hear of Blockbuster?

Truly,

lest we forget:

Ed Gain
the Moorse Murders
HH holmes
and the Green River killer who is also slated for a movie debut.

Try IMDB

Because people like to see movies that are sadistic. People like to watch horror movies.

I, for one have never liked horror movies. I don't like the blood & stuff that comes with it. I perfer something else. I don't understand why people flock to movie theaters to see a movie with blood in them.

I'm exceptionally opposed to watching any movies that features torture, sexual violence or child abuse. Having said that, I don't mind a good horror movie and obviously people can watch what they like but I have no desire to crawl into the mind of a non-fictional serial killer or see him ply his craft. It's just not my idea of escapism. I realize these monsters exist that's enough information for me.

So few movies? There are tons and tons of them out there. Not many of them do much justice though in trying to show what the serial killer was doing. Why you don't hear about most of them because they're low budget and not that great.

Last serial killer film I watched was Chaos and it was funny even though people called it "brutal" and "utterly disgusting". Fake screams are hard not to laugh at...

Then there's "Henry" based on Henry Lee Lucas.

I'm with FatherX on the type of movies I definitely don't watch...Everytime you put on the tv or read the newspapers, it's killing, child abuse, and the list goes on, so why would I pay money to see these kind of movies, when there's enough crap out there that makes me sick.....

People go and see them because they like to be freaked out.

I personally love the sight of gore which is why i go.

Don't know if this is the same thing you're talking about but I saw that Lifetime is going to airing a miniseries about the Green River Killer based on the book that the sheriff who worked on the case wrote. I believe that is starting this Sunday.

Yeah thats the one it starts @8 its based on the book the sheriff wrote. Sidebar: I thought cops were forbidden from writing about cases and things like that. Obviously there is some kind of loop hole there.

there have been a ton of 'Jack the Ripper' movies. My favorite is 'From Hell', with Johnny Depp, which reveals that the ripper murders were
done by the secret service.

Then there were 'Evilenko' and 'Citizen X', both of them about Ukrainian-Russian serial killer Andre Chikatilo.
There was the movie 'Son of Sam' about David Berkowitz. There was a movie done about Paul BErnardo and his wife
Karl Homolka called 'Karla'.

From: http://freemasonrywatch.org/paulbernardo.html

Web of Favoritism and Corruption'

Five Points of Fellowship Brother, foot to foot teaches you that you
should, whenever asked, go on a brother's errand, if within the length
of your cable-tow, even if you should have to go barefoot and
bareheaded. Knee to knee, that you should always remember a Master
Mason in your devotions to Almighty God. Breast to breast, that you
should keep the Master Mason's secrets, when given to you in charge as
such, as secure and inviolable in your breast as they were in his own
before communicated to you. Hand to back, that you should support a
Master Mason behind his back as before his face. Mouth to ear, that you
should support his good name as well behind his back as before his
face.

'The Five Points of Fellowship'
Master Master Initiation Ritual

Fraternal Order of Police

The 'True Blue' 'Square Club'...

The Masonic symbology ("all seeing" eye, black and white tiles,
triple turrents etc.) and terminology (Grand Lodge, Brethren, etc.)
used by the premier Police Association (Fraternal Order of Police) is
no co-incidence.

Of all the professions the law enforcement and intelligence
community have the highest percentage of members who are Freemasons.
This also is no co-incidence as Freemasonry intentionally seeks out new
recruits who it finds the most useful.

Unfortunately criminals have long been aware of this, and the more
sophisticated have used Freemasonry in their continual attempts to
corrupt the justice system and 'gain an edge'.

It is for this reason that the British Government has recently put
in to place a registration system for all police officers, judges,
magistrates, prosecutors, prison guards, and parole officers in the
U.K. who are 'on the level'. (masons)

***********************
Canadian true-crime author Brian O'Neill has, against all
odds, produced a masterful and lamentable account of the tragic
stories of murdered Southern Ontario teenagers Tammy Lyn Homolka,
Leslie Erin Mahaffy, Kristen Dawn French, and "Canada's Ken and
Barbie Killers," Karla Teale-Homolka and Paul Teale-Bernardo.

Earlier this year, after suffering threats and accusations
of criminal activities, author Brian O'Neill was himself subject
to criminal activity. Criminal activity that included U.S.
border officials and Green Ribbon Task Force member Steve McLoed.
Mr. O'Neill, upon crossing the border to The United States, from
Canada, was immediately stopped and detained for several hours
against his will. U.S. border officials then released O'Neill
into the custody of Steve McLoed who seized O'Neill's personal
documents and accused him of the theft of the documents.

This cross-border conniving was, allegedly, ordered by a
representative of the Ontario Attorney General's Office, Crown
Attorney Ray Houlahan and coordinated by Green Ribbon Task Force
leader, Inspector Vince Bevan. Ontario Crown Attorney Ray
Houlahan, later, found no evidence of theft and declined to press
criminal charges against O'Neill, but added that the documents
now belonged to the Office of the Attorney General.

It is believed that editors and legal advisors for Mr.
O'Neill will pursue a $250,000 law suit against the Ontario
Ministry of The Attorney General and other unnamed individual
***************
http://www.well.com/user/sjroby/afkh/

The disclosure that a concrete-encased, dismembered body found in a
lake is that of Leslie Mahaffy, 14, came soon after a fiery car
accident that killed four other teen-agers.

"Everybody's afraid they're going to lose their best friend next," says
Paul Bernier, 17, who knew all five of the deceased. "It keeps going
through your mind: 'Who's next?' "

The four died on June 11 when their car went out of control on a side
road known locally as "roller-coaster road," slammed into a culvert and
burst into flames. Two other youths survived.

"If there is a God upstairs and he's going to take everybody," Mr.
Bernier says, "why put them through all this?"

The connection between the two tragedies is inescapable for Leslie
Mahaffy's friends, a group that displays a striking sense of caring and
responsibility. She disappeared early on June 15 after visiting a
funeral home and attending a wake for the four dead teen-agers in a
patch of woods not far from her Burlington home. Three and a half weeks
later, her remains would be identified.
----------------------
hmmmmm

interesting that Mahaffy disappeared after visiting that funeral- home
ceremony the same day, and was later found to have been abducted
by Bernardo that night.
Sort of creepy isn't it? Did Bernardo follow her home from the funeral
home?
If so, why was Bernardo watching a funeral home? Bernardo was a
peeping
Tom, we were told. What is a peeping Tom doing watching teens leave a
funeral home?
Now we find that he was a Freemason. A Freemason who watched a teenager
leave
a funeral, followed her home, and murdered her.

Seems there may be something more than
sex at play here?

Also interesting: Bernardo and Karla drugged and raped Homolka's
younger sister Tammy on
Christmas Eve.
(anyone remember what happened to little Jon-Benet Ramsey on Christmas
Eve?

From
ttp://tinyurl.com/tqomr
'Josef Mengele created a sacrificial ritual for this date called "The
Last Bulb of the Christmas Tree". Mengele's pseudonym, Greenbaum, means
green tree and relates to the Cabalistic Tree of Life. A Brotherhood
term for the devil is JonBet and the coincidence is so amazing that,
given the other circumstances, I cannot believe this was not the true
inspiration for her name.'

Was Jon-Benet ritually sacrificed by her parents on Christmas Eve?
Or by their cult?

Odd that both the Jon-Benet Ramsey case and the Bernardo case were
classically 'bungled' by the police? In both cases key evidence was
suppressed, 'lost', etc. (why is it that those masonic police keep screwing up
these things?)

What really happened to Tammy Homolka the night she was drugged and
raped, Christmas Eve? The official story is that she was accidentally overdosed on
general anaesthetics by Karla , and then choked on her own vomit while asleep that night
and found dead the next day. I wonder what really happened to her? Could it be that
other people were involved in a Christmas Eve ritual rape?
That also raises the question of what really happened to Leslie Mahaffy
and Kristen French.

I would prefer that the title of this thread instead be 'so few serial killers, and so many fallacious movies depicting a mythology'

There are so many serial killer movies , all parroting the official, and bogus, story that all of these killings are
the work of 'lone nuts', when the evidence points to the complete opposite: that most of the murders are the
work of organized cults/organized crime, and pinned on one fall guy who gets to become famous as nutcase
of the year.


It is my opinion that satanic cult activity is
far more prevalent than is readily accepted by the general public or
reported by the media, and that this perception is due to a concerted
effort by the rich and powerful occult from the highest political and social and economic
strata of western society to conceal their activities from the public.
In Canada alone, from the Pickton murders in B.C., to the Bernardo genre killings in Ontario, the numbers
are larger than the public knows, and usually blamed on a fall guy , a 'serial killer' , in cases when
the bodies are linked to a common location. It is my opinion that the majority of these murders can be
linked to either organized crime or cult activity, as 'procurers' and 'caretakers' in cults or organized crime take the fall for the
wealthy cultists whom they supply with fresh victims.

I have been researching the Paul Bernardo murders and found evidence
that Bernardo was a secret member of the Freemasons, a highly
secretive organization . The link to that information:
http://freemasonrywatch.org/paulbernardo.html

There were occult and satanic aspects to the Bernardo killings (and a
large number of 'unsolved oddly similar crimes in the area at that time period. ) Very few
people know of the satanic killings and videotapings in Belgium that
were pinned on one man and his accomplice. The reality has emerged
that Dutroux and his network (mafia) procured (for the wealthy) young
girls for use buy wealthy customers in child prostitution, child porn,
rape porn, and satanic ritual sacrifice. There is proof that many
Belgian girls were murdered by groups of people in Belgium, that they
paid large sums to be provided girls, and that these murders were not
committed by 'lone nuts' as is the common explanation worldwide.
Details of that case (Belgium) follow later in this piece.

I will begin with Bernardo, because many people in Canada have also
been kept unaware of the satanic aspects to the Bernardo murders and the eery similarity
of the Bernardo and Pickton cases in Canada with the circumstances and
facts of the Belgian murders.

There are satanic aspects to the Bernardo killings that remain largely
unknown.
For example, Leslie Mahaffy was abducted the evening of the day that
she attended a funeral wake for four high school friends who had burned
alive in a car crash on 1st side road in
Burlington. Her body was buried in a cemetery bordering 1st side road.
Kristen French was then abducted in a city far away, St. Catharines.
murdered, and her body transported all the way from the City of St.
Catherines, through the City of Hamilton, and then left in a ditch in
the City of Burlington, a ditch on 1st side road, right exactly beside
the cemetery where Mahaffy was buried, and not far from where the teens

had burned alive in the crash. People connected to the deaths have
been 'suicided', including the father of one of the teens who died in
the fiery crash, and including Johnathon Yeo, who allegedly committed
suicide in police custody after being pursued to a mall parking lot and

cornered by police. (Yeo was the chief suspect in a pair of killings
that have at times been linked to Bernardo, incuding the murder of teen

Laurie Anderson )
Numerous articles and books have mentioned that a far larger series of
similar murders (location, M,O., time period, victim type etc.) have
oddly not been included in the official investigations and records of
the Bernardo killings. It has come out that police had enough evidence

to arrest Bernardo long before Karla Homolka turned him in, and some
speculate that Bernardo received some level of police protection during

the investigations.

Is all of this the work of one person? Or was Paul Bernardo the fall
guy, the patsy who took the rap in the coverup for a far larger group
of people and far more numerous series of crimes?
Why was Homolka able to bargain her way out of dangerous offender
status? What does she know about the true nature of the videotapes and
Bernardo's plans and potentially the others involved? Others with the
power to influence police investigations, silence witnesses, Why the
Corrections Canada media ban on Paul Bernardo, that prevents him from
being interviewed by media and remains in effect to this day? Just
what is it that is being kept quiet here? Paul Bernardo was a master
Freemason (http://freemasonrywatch.org/paulbernardo.html) and it
appears that membership in this secret society, and pedophilia, may run
in the
Bernardo family. Paul's grandfather was an Italian stone mason and
expert craftsman specializing in marble stone work and marble tiling.
Paul's father was a convicted pedophile and peeping tom
who also had sex with Paul's sister.

I have begun to look into a series of crimes that are remarkably
similar to the Bernardo
killings, which occurred in Belgium during the exact time period .
In this case, a married man (Dutroux) was caught with two female
teenaged sex
slaves caged in his basement and the bodies of four other victims
buried concealed beneath his property.

His wife was charged as an accessory to the murders. Like Dutroux,
Bernardo was married, and assisted by his wife in the killings, and.
like Dutroux,
buried the body of one of his victims beneath his garage floor.
The police also found videos of rapes at the Belgian man's home,
exactly as had been the case with Bernardo. Bernardo had intended to
sell these tapes, and he had made them exactly the
same year as these tapes had been made in Belgium . Bernardo made
these rape tapes with the intention of selling them, so he probably
already had a buyer in mind. (the same buyers
who had made Dutroux wealthy over the preceding decade ?)
In the course of the Belgian trial it was disclosed that the
unemployed, uneducated Dutroux had for ten years had an undisclosed
source of lucrative income, and in fact owned a nice house and owned
several properties, including six or seven houses.

What is alarming is that emerging evidence reveals the source of his
income to be involvement in a wide-scale child prostitution/sex slave
ring, sadistic child pornography videos, including torture and rape,
and incredibly, satanic child-sacrifice. All of these services
provided to the wealthy occult upper crust of Belgium and Europe.
Dutroux was occult, and Dutroux was mafia. Dutroux had accomplices, and

customers.
Was this Bernardo's secret too? It is possible that the exact same
pattern
was and is occcurring in Canada, and that Bernardo was just a small
part of
the picture. How many tapes were really made and sold? How many women
abducted and sold?

In Belgium, the coverup of this ring has reached to the highest
echelons of Belgian
society. Politicians and witnesses have died for threatening to expose
the full extent of the sect, and the powerful, famous
and rich people involved. The Belgian secret service has gunned down
witnesses
in grocery stores , such are the stakes in this case.

This has wider-reaching implications for western society in general,
when one notes the secrecy that money can buy, and when one sees such
similarity of circumstances as such that surround the Bernardo case.
Botched investigations, lost evidence, secret deals, and of course
Bernardo's largely concealed connection to secret societies. Do we
really know the full Bernardo story?
Do we know the truth about occult activity in Canada? In North America?

Did anyone else catch the first part of the green river killer miniseries last night??? I was insane.. I can't wait to see what happens tonight!!!

Part one kinda dragged but part two saved the movie. I enjoyed spike from buffy in it!