ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 04:04 PM
im just starting out to do elecrtrokinisis and im not sure how too know when too much energy in in my hands (while practicing the static shock way) i want to have fun with it but i dont want to hurt anyone.
also feel free to leave ideas on how to practice it also.
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 05:08 PM
do you really think you can hurt people by shooting electricity out of your hands at them? sorry but this is getting kinda ridiculous?
Heartagram3200
Mar 25 2008, 06:58 PM
Do you know any other forms of manipulation? Like, can you atleast make a psi ball, and do TK to a small extent? You should know those skills before Learning Electrokinesis...
ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 07:02 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 25 2008, 10:58 AM)

Do you know any other forms of manipulation? Like, can you atleast make a psi ball, and do TK to a small extent? You should know those skills before Learning Electrokinesis...
yes i can mke a psi ball but not sure in TK, but can electrokenisis hurt you or harm you in any way?
Heartagram3200
Mar 25 2008, 07:05 PM
I dont know, I've never actually tried it myself...Like, I tried to see what would happen for maybe a second or two, and I once made the night light in my room flicker while makin a psi ball...But, I have never tried full blown EK...I would think as long as you keep the charges small at the beggining, and in the area of your hands you should be fine...As long as you dont accidently send it to your heart or something...
ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 25 2008, 11:05 AM)

I dont know, I've never actually tried it myself...Like, I tried to see what would happen for maybe a second or two, and I once made the night light in my room flicker while makin a psi ball...But, I have never tried full blown EK...I would think as long as you keep the charges small at the beggining, and in the area of your hands you should be fine...As long as you dont accidently send it to your heart or something...
ok because i dont want to screw my energy up
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 07:11 PM
heart, you are aware that there is no such thing as "electrokinesis", aren't you?
Heartagram3200
Mar 25 2008, 07:13 PM
I never said there was such a thing...I doubt it's existance myself, because In order for you to create electricity, there has to be some sort of conductor, I dont know what the conductor would be in EK...But, I was just assisting him, because he wants to try...I was just helping him, is that so wrong?
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 07:16 PM
not at all, sorry heart, i wasn't trying to offend you, i just think that the "theorie" is that it is possible to manipulate electrons to some degree, but only using psychokinesis, right?
Heartagram3200
Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM
I think that Pyrokinesis, cyrokinesis, electrokinesis, ETC...Are all under the catagory of Telekinesis, they just have diffrent names, because you're movin a diffrent state of matter, or a diffrent element every time...I do think they are the same thing, but they need diffrent techniques to move those elements...But, I bend flame with traditional TK techniques, same with streams of water...So, I guess it is possible with normal TK...
Papaver
Mar 25 2008, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (i am ninja @ Mar 25 2008, 07:02 PM)

yes i can mke a psi ball but not sure in TK, but can electrokenisis hurt you or harm you in any way?
Ever seen or heard of anybody killed by it?
Of course not!
This is a crazy idea. Electrokinesis is to be found in fiction only, in the hands of Emperor Palpatine in Return of the Jedi.
Papaver
Mar 25 2008, 07:25 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM)

I bend flame with traditional TK techniques, same with streams of water...
Hi Heart,
How's that video with the Psi-wheel under cover coming along?
Heartagram3200
Mar 25 2008, 07:27 PM
Oh, Havent really praciticed in a while...Lol...I did finish my test, which I will post in another thread now...
llynx
Mar 25 2008, 07:27 PM
Yell really loudly... "I'M A FIARIN' MAH LAZAHZ!!!!!!" then yell "BLARRRRGGGGGG" And a lazer beam will fly out of your mouth.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSVNbxjdvv8
ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 07:28 PM
but ive heard storys of people that get their energy all screwd up by doing this
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 07:35 PM
look, i think it's possible, to some degree, did you hear that, "i am ninja", to some degree!!!!!! watch this vid:
john chang. you can see john chang at the end lighting a light bulb with psi. oh and "i am ninja", you will never be capable of shooting electricity out of your hands, deal with it

BOO YA
Heartagram3200
Mar 25 2008, 07:37 PM
Lol...I hate Eric, for giving us all "Boo Ya fever"....He's contagious!
ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (nirvanic @ Mar 25 2008, 12:35 PM)

look, i think it's possible, to some degree, did you hear that, "i am ninja", to some degree!!!!!! watch this vid:
john chang. you can see john chang at the end lighting a light bulb with psi. oh and "i am ninja", you will never be capable of shooting electricity out of your hands, deal with it

BOO YA
thats not what i ment, i mean that u touch someone and it shockes them (static shock)
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 07:40 PM
oh that, ehhh sorry, i don't know really, but i think it takes a lot of energy!!!!!!!!
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 07:42 PM
boo ya kicks a*s
ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 07:45 PM
heres what ive found in my reacherch so far
i have found no evidence that electrokinisis is dangeres
pyro, and others are but this one is not
all it is, is using electrons at your own will
Moro
Mar 25 2008, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (i am ninja @ Mar 25 2008, 03:37 PM)

thats not what i ment, i mean that u touch someone and it shockes them (static shock)
Anyone can build up a static charge naturally by just walking across carpet or even sitting on a couch, etc.
This charge can be released on a person when your finger or hand gets to close to them.
You do understand that this is not Electrokinesis!?
ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ Mar 25 2008, 12:58 PM)

Anyone can build up a static charge naturally by just walking across carpet or even sitting on a couch, etc.
This charge can be released on a person when your finger or hand gets to close to them.
You do understand that this is not Electrokinesis!?
ive also made my sister hair float up like when your full of static charge
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 08:16 PM
QUOTE (i am ninja @ Mar 25 2008, 08:01 PM)

ive also made my sister hair float up like when your full of static charge
"Facepalms"
Mahtu
Mar 25 2008, 08:25 PM
QUOTE (i am ninja @ Mar 25 2008, 12:02 PM)

yes i can mke a psi ball but not sure in TK, but can electrokenisis hurt you or harm you in any way?
Yes electrokinesis can harm people, but unless it is extremely powerful and advanced it will be little more than a light static jolt. In fact, making a static spark takes a tremendous amount of skill, so I doubt you have to worry about hurting people when you're just beginning. If I were you I would just work on producing the strongest results that you possibly can, and if your skill and power grow, then you can start working on controlling yourself and holding back when working with others.
Mahtu
Mar 25 2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 25 2008, 12:37 PM)

Lol...I hate Eric, for giving us all "Boo Ya fever"....He's contagious!
Boo ya! Sorry, I just had to say it, since everybody else has.
nirvanic
Mar 25 2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (Mahtu @ Mar 25 2008, 08:25 PM)

Yes electrokinesis can harm people, but unless it is extremely powerful and advanced it will be little more than a light static jolt. In fact, making a static spark takes a tremendous amount of skill, so I doubt you have to worry about hurting people when you're just beginning. If I were you I would just work on producing the strongest results that you possibly can, and if your skill and power grow, then you can start working on controlling yourself and holding back when working with others.
where did you get your info from?
Atheist God
Mar 25 2008, 09:49 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 25 2008, 02:13 PM)

I never said there was such a thing...I doubt it's existance myself, because In order for you to create electricity, there has to be some sort of conductor, I dont know what the conductor would be in EK...But, I was just assisting him, because he wants to try...I was just helping him, is that so wrong?
Your body is a great conductor being mostly water and electrons are everywhere in every single atom.
Given the nature of electrical energy though it is unimaginable that anyone could control it merely using thought. However is one power out of the whole TK thing could hold water it would be EK simply because the energy that would power such an ability actually exists. This being said people can't control it like say an eel can we simply weren't designed to hold a large amount of electricity.
ufo guy
Mar 25 2008, 10:37 PM
QUOTE (AtheistGod @ Mar 25 2008, 02:49 PM)

Your body is a great conductor being mostly water and electrons are everywhere in every single atom.
Given the nature of electrical energy though it is unimaginable that anyone could control it merely using thought. However is one power out of the whole TK thing could hold water it would be EK simply because the energy that would power such an ability actually exists. This being said people can't control it like say an eel can we simply weren't designed to hold a large amount of electricity.
im pretty sure you can to some extent, where you dont over exalt yourself
Papaver
Mar 25 2008, 11:27 PM
QUOTE (Mahtu @ Mar 25 2008, 08:25 PM)

In fact, making a static spark takes a tremendous amount of skill,
Yeah, as much skill as is required to shuffle on a cheap carpet whilst wearing a pair of Converse Chuck Taylors (Which I do).
I'm a Janitor. I get a shock every time I go up the step ladder to change a tube...
Moro
Mar 25 2008, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (Papaver @ Mar 25 2008, 07:27 PM)

Yeah, as much skill as is required to shuffle on a cheap carpet whilst wearing a pair of Converse Chuck Taylors (Which I do).
I'm a Janitor. I get a shock every time I go up the step ladder to change a tube...
I work on cars myself, everytime I pull a car into the bay I get out then shut the door and it shocks me quite often.
Atheist God
Mar 25 2008, 11:40 PM
QUOTE (i am ninja @ Mar 25 2008, 05:37 PM)

im pretty sure you can to some extent, where you dont over exalt yourself
No you can't EK does not exist, simply given the nature of electricity of itself and how we know it behaves is enough to debunk any claim that someone can physically with out the aid of gadgets control, shoot and manipulate electricity.
Mahtu
Mar 26 2008, 12:23 AM
QUOTE (nirvanic @ Mar 25 2008, 01:28 PM)

where did you get your info from?
I'm speaking in theory. What I was saying was that IN THEORY it WOULD take a tremendous amount of skill to produce a static shock simply by psionically manipulating electrons. Do I really need to cite a source to say that what someone is proposing would be difficult to achieve or that it would be an impressive feat?
Mahtu
Mar 26 2008, 12:26 AM
QUOTE (Papaver @ Mar 25 2008, 04:27 PM)

Yeah, as much skill as is required to shuffle on a cheap carpet whilst wearing a pair of Converse Chuck Taylors (Which I do).
I'm a Janitor. I get a shock every time I go up the step ladder to change a tube...
I meant psionically and you know it, so please don't bring the whole "carpet shuffle" scenario into it.
eqgumby
Mar 26 2008, 12:36 AM
There is no evidence, no proof, no reason to believe on any ***kinesis, so debating HOW to do it as if ANYONE has a clue, is sort of like debating time travel.
Heartagram3200
Mar 26 2008, 12:39 AM
Hey, if people wanna try, then good for them...It makes life a whole sh**load more intresting if you believe in this stuff, and the way it opens your eyes to the rest of this amazing world is just awsome...
crystal sage
Mar 26 2008, 12:58 AM
Heartagram3200
Mar 26 2008, 01:24 AM
thats awsome
ufo guy
Mar 26 2008, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 25 2008, 05:39 PM)

Hey, if people wanna try, then good for them...It makes life a whole sh**load more intresting if you believe in this stuff, and the way it opens your eyes to the rest of this amazing world is just awsome...
exacly
Papaver
Mar 26 2008, 07:10 AM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 26 2008, 12:39 AM)

Hey, if people wanna try, then good for them...It makes life a whole sh**load more intresting if you believe in this stuff, and the way it opens your eyes to the rest of this amazing world is just awsome...
And you don't care whether these things are real or not? Do you not realise the difference between believing and truth?
That's a shame in my opinion.
Papaver
Mar 26 2008, 07:11 AM
A terminally ill person can believe they are cured and that can make them feel great. It doesn't change the truth though.
Sporkling
Mar 26 2008, 07:27 AM
People can choose to believe in that they believe in without shame. For example. You are a skeptic. I would be ashamed to be a skeptic but obviously you are not. So there is no need to bring shame into the topic.
Wrong. An ill person can believe and they will get cured. It happened many times. The medicines given to cure cancer, were only sugar pills. Nothing more.
Papaver
Mar 26 2008, 09:28 AM
The placebo effect is indeed real and quite amazing in some cases.
eqgumby
Mar 26 2008, 08:32 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 25 2008, 07:39 PM)

Hey, if people wanna try, then good for them...It makes life a whole sh**load more intresting if you believe in this stuff, and the way it opens your eyes to the rest of this amazing world is just awsome...
Yeah, believing in Hobbits, Dwarfs and Dragons is more interesting than flipping burgers too.
Trying is fine. Experiment. Document. Prove to the world that the human mind can manipulate matter external to itself. It would be great if it were true. I would embrace the truth in that case, rather than just observe it as I do now. Because the truth can seem boring, and is pretty mundane.
But rolling into a place like this, where most of us are here to discuss and explore the unknown (rather than make amazing claims), and claiming you have an assortment of psychic abilities...it's like walking into an Atheism convention and having the "spirit" come over you, speaking in tongues, and "witnessing" in general. You're just asking for a straight-jacket and a ride to the loony bin. Sorry guys.
Heartagram3200
Mar 26 2008, 09:02 PM
QUOTE (eqgumby @ Mar 26 2008, 04:32 PM)

Yeah, believing in Hobbits, Dwarfs and Dragons is more interesting than flipping burgers too.
Trying is fine. Experiment. Document. Prove to the world that the human mind can manipulate matter external to itself. It would be great if it were true. I would embrace the truth in that case, rather than just observe it as I do now. Because the truth can seem boring, and is pretty mundane.
But rolling into a place like this, where most of us are here to discuss and explore the unknown (rather than make amazing claims), and claiming you have an assortment of psychic abilities...it's like walking into an Atheism convention and having the "spirit" come over you, speaking in tongues, and "witnessing" in general. You're just asking for a straight-jacket and a ride to the loony bin. Sorry guys.
Have you seen my other post?! I am perhaps, one of the only believers here, who has enough balls to stand up to you skeptics, and not just "I don't have to prove to you" I actually show evidence...Provide examples of my claims, I am working on many vids right now, with telekinesis...I am still setting up a telepathy test with Eight Bit...I'm running test by myself, to make sure that I'm movin the psi wheel, not convection, I spend hours on the computer every week typing up theories about psionics, and combatting skeptic made theories with my own...I am perhaps one of the only ones who has done all this stuff to prove my case....So before you talk about "Making claims with no evidence" and how I dont try to back them up....Do your research...
eqgumby
Mar 26 2008, 10:22 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 26 2008, 04:02 PM)

Have you seen my other post?! I am perhaps, one of the only believers here, who has enough balls to stand up to you skeptics, and not just "I don't have to prove to you" I actually show evidence...Provide examples of my claims, I am working on many vids right now, with telekinesis...I am still setting up a telepathy test with Eight Bit...I'm running test by myself, to make sure that I'm movin the psi wheel, not convection, I spend hours on the computer every week typing up theories about psionics, and combatting skeptic made theories with my own...I am perhaps one of the only ones who has done all this stuff to prove my case....So before you talk about "Making claims with no evidence" and how I dont try to back them up....Do your research...
My statements still stand. All you have is belief, and unfounded theories. I still await any viable and verifiable proof. I wish you all the luck in the world. If I am mistaken and you have provided proof, as has been outlined in previous posts, please link it and I'll be glad to retract any negative comments. In the meantime, do like I said. Try. Experiment. Document. Prove.
krillansavillan
Mar 27 2008, 02:44 AM
psi is intention, i dont use it to move things, i use it to make things happen, a better purpose, tho i am working on it cause who doesnt want to throw lighting,
i feel psi very well, i have made psi balls very concentrated, not enuff to flare but wavy heat lines,
to me electricity and fire seem more powerfull, sumtimes i mix them, but when in doubt change your intention from electric to like wind or something, i dnt think you can hurt yourself tho,,,,
if you are just starting out im sure u cant get it to mess up ur energy already, eventualy ull feel ur limitations, but hey dnt keep ur body charged lol, might conduct sum unwanted direct lightning strikes
ufo guy
Mar 27 2008, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (krillansavillan @ Mar 26 2008, 06:44 PM)

psi is intention, i dont use it to move things, i use it to make things happen, a better purpose, tho i am working on it cause who doesnt want to throw lighting,
i feel psi very well, i have made psi balls very concentrated, not enuff to flare but wavy heat lines,
to me electricity and fire seem more powerfull, sumtimes i mix them, but when in doubt change your intention from electric to like wind or something, i dnt think you can hurt yourself tho,,,,
if you are just starting out im sure u cant get it to mess up ur energy already, eventualy ull feel ur limitations, but hey dnt keep ur body charged lol, might conduct sum unwanted direct lightning strikes
ok thanks for the tip
FirebladeX2
Mar 28 2008, 01:18 AM
QUOTE (nirvanic @ Mar 25 2008, 11:08 AM)

do you really think you can hurt people by shooting electricity out of your hands at them? sorry but this is getting kinda ridiculous?
That does sound a little far fetched, well maybe if you built up some static electricity the old fashioned way (slippers on carpet) and added your own abilities in it could possibly cause a small injury
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