Actually, it feels kinda electricky, like you passed your hand through an electric current or something...Uusally cold too...You'll tell they felt something when they pull their hands back in shock!
Everyone I've tried this with has done that...
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I really don't get the logic of psions, This is my argument.
Psi wheels can be explained by convection currunts. FACT. So, the wheel moves naturally.
Psi balls can be explained through the power of suggestion. FACT. So, you brain naturally makes up feelings that arn't there.
Both just arn't proof of psi, what a Psion Basically does, is takes somthing that exsists and pass it off as something else
I honestly don't see were your argument is.
Its like me saying "i move my hands, through the power of death metal! msucles have nothing to do with it"
Were is your argument?
Psi wheels can be explained by convection currunts. FACT. So, the wheel moves naturally.
Psi balls can be explained through the power of suggestion. FACT. So, you brain naturally makes up feelings that arn't there.
Both just arn't proof of psi, what a Psion Basically does, is takes somthing that exsists and pass it off as something else
I honestly don't see were your argument is.
Its like me saying "i move my hands, through the power of death metal! msucles have nothing to do with it"
Were is your argument?
QUOTE (jay123 @ Mar 27 2008, 11:43 PM) 
I really don't get the logic of psions, This is my argument.
Psi wheels can be explained by convection currunts. FACT. So, the wheel moves naturally.
Psi balls can be explained through the power of suggestion. FACT. So, you brain naturally makes up feelings that arn't there.
Both just arn't proof of psi, what a Psion Basically does, is takes somthing that exsists and pass it off as something else
I honestly don't see were your argument is.
Its like me saying "i move my hands, through the power of death metal! msucles have nothing to do with it"
Were is your argument?
Psi wheels can be explained by convection currunts. FACT. So, the wheel moves naturally.
Psi balls can be explained through the power of suggestion. FACT. So, you brain naturally makes up feelings that arn't there.
Both just arn't proof of psi, what a Psion Basically does, is takes somthing that exsists and pass it off as something else
I honestly don't see were your argument is.
Its like me saying "i move my hands, through the power of death metal! msucles have nothing to do with it"
Were is your argument?
This is what I've been saying. Like I've said, if a leaf blows in the wind I can claim it's my psi powers moving it. You can't see any proof though, but you must believe me or you are a skeptic (which always sounds like an insult to me
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^^I prefer being called skeptical, but i quite like being called a skeptic, i wear the badge with pride.... 
^^^
But none the less, your right. We shouldn't allways be painted with the skeptic brush.
^^^But none the less, your right. We shouldn't allways be painted with the skeptic brush.
QUOTE (jay123 @ Mar 27 2008, 05:43 PM)
I really don't get the logic of psions, This is my argument.
Psi wheels can be explained by convection currunts. FACT. So, the wheel moves naturally.
Psi balls can be explained through the power of suggestion. FACT. So, you brain naturally makes up feelings that arn't there.
Both just arn't proof of psi, what a Psion Basically does, is takes somthing that exsists and pass it off as something else
I honestly don't see were your argument is.
Its like me saying "i move my hands, through the power of death metal! msucles have nothing to do with it"
Were is your argument?
Psi wheels can be explained by convection currunts. FACT. So, the wheel moves naturally.
Psi balls can be explained through the power of suggestion. FACT. So, you brain naturally makes up feelings that arn't there.
Both just arn't proof of psi, what a Psion Basically does, is takes somthing that exsists and pass it off as something else
I honestly don't see were your argument is.
Its like me saying "i move my hands, through the power of death metal! msucles have nothing to do with it"
Were is your argument?
But, what proof do we have that it is just something our minds make up? There is the possibility that psi balls do exist, and they are real...Yes, logic says that it's just a figment of our imagination..But logic isn't always that valuable a tool, logic is what told us the world was flat...And the fact other people, feel the SAME EXACT THING as you do without even tellin em what to feel, says psi balls are something more...
So you don't believe in convection currunts, or suggestion?
And there is proof that are minds can make up feelings. Back to those ghost pains
Pretty closed minded of you, don't you think?
Thing is the means to do everything you do is here without Psi heart.
Lets say Psi did exist But for a day i didn't work, in that day everything that been done with Psi would still be possible, and work inEXACTLY the same way, think about it heart. its never too late to change your perspective.
And there is proof that are minds can make up feelings. Back to those ghost pains
Pretty closed minded of you, don't you think?
Thing is the means to do everything you do is here without Psi heart.
Lets say Psi did exist But for a day i didn't work, in that day everything that been done with Psi would still be possible, and work inEXACTLY the same way, think about it heart. its never too late to change your perspective.
I said I do believe in convection currents..But as I said in the psi test thread...I did those test to see when convection currents would affect the wheel...the only place they did was when I put my hands cupped around it...Thats it...I wanted to see how the currents would affect the wheel in my house....Read that thread...I make sure to elminate other thing sbefore I come to the conclusion that I did it...
Iv'e read the thread. you cant possibly have it both ways. If you admit that both things can be done without Psi, were does the Psi idea even come from?
I say that convection can move the wheel...But so can Telekinesis...
What im saying is the wheel can move with or without your hands. And, you agree. if I physically spin the weel using breath then put my hands around it, is that Psi. Because according to you, yes 
No, I said convection can affect it, but so can TK...I wear a bandanna over me mouth when I do TK...I make sure it doesn't spin unless I tell it to...I run test to make sure I did it! I'm not one of those, I DONT HAVE TO PROVE sh** TO YOU believers...I back up my claims, and I make sure that I'M THE ONE SPINNING THE WHEEL!I don't make lbind claims without even testing them first...
Firstly.Don't get hostel, its a dicussion board. expect some discussion.
Secondly, unless you live in a vaccum, there is no way you can be sure that it was you moving the wheel. And it not only the currunts that can make it spin, the vibrations from the screamo music? or maybe the heat from your hands?
Thirdly, the thread is titled "skeptics read this", an obvious attempt at providing proof, infact you often boast about being the one who tries to provides proof. So You dont have to prove anything, But evidently you want too. But you can't. What does this say to you?
Secondly, unless you live in a vaccum, there is no way you can be sure that it was you moving the wheel. And it not only the currunts that can make it spin, the vibrations from the screamo music? or maybe the heat from your hands?
Thirdly, the thread is titled "skeptics read this", an obvious attempt at providing proof, infact you often boast about being the one who tries to provides proof. So You dont have to prove anything, But evidently you want too. But you can't. What does this say to you?
What have I been doing to not show proof?
And I used caps to make sure you understand that I am not that ignorant man...I do provide proof, I am the only one here who does...I actually think it pisses you guys off...Cause I'm actually able to stick up for what I believe in...
And I used caps to make sure you understand that I am not that ignorant man...I do provide proof, I am the only one here who does...I actually think it pisses you guys off...Cause I'm actually able to stick up for what I believe in...
I really quite like you standing up for what you believe in. Remember i don't hate psi, or the idea of psi. I just think your wrong.
Theres just no credibility in my opinion. if you can spin a wheel why cant you push a bit of paper across a desk? or do anything else with Psi? seriously asnwer that.
Theres just no credibility in my opinion. if you can spin a wheel why cant you push a bit of paper across a desk? or do anything else with Psi? seriously asnwer that.
Unfortunetly what you are providing is NOT proof.. proof is VERY easily defined.. it removes all chances of trickery and removes external factors which may influence your psi-wheel moving (wind, heat, vibrations etc)
The skeptics are not being difficult, they are not being combative, they are not being unreasonable... again... extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence... which has not been provided.
The "evidence" you provide has so SO many obvious flaws in it it's not evidence at all... You've admitted that heat, air convections etc COULD affect your psi-wheel... the "evidence" you've provided has NO precautions to control these factors... WHY are you being so defensive when the reasons for doubt are so obvious?!?!
The skeptics are not being difficult, they are not being combative, they are not being unreasonable... again... extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence... which has not been provided.
The "evidence" you provide has so SO many obvious flaws in it it's not evidence at all... You've admitted that heat, air convections etc COULD affect your psi-wheel... the "evidence" you've provided has NO precautions to control these factors... WHY are you being so defensive when the reasons for doubt are so obvious?!?!
So, if it's ok for you to ask stuff of me, why won't you agree to the tets I wnat you to do?!
Were not the ones making the claims, it's not enough for you just to say "!prove me wrong".
Personally, i don't even think it matters anymore, you, like most of believers, have clearly already made up your mind. And no amount of logic, Science or convincing is going to change it.
Funny how believers allways talk about an open mind, pot kettle black.
Personally, i don't even think it matters anymore, you, like most of believers, have clearly already made up your mind. And no amount of logic, Science or convincing is going to change it.
Funny how believers allways talk about an open mind, pot kettle black.
See! There you go again! I ask the skeptics to put in a tiny amount of effort, and you turn it around on me! Typpical...
Heart, you don't get it. because youve allready decided you dont agree before you even read a skeptics post.
So i want you to listen and think through what im about to say.
I'm not trying to prove the exsistance of Psi, infact i didn't even know it exsited until i came here.. so i dont have too. You, on the other hand, are trying to convince us. im disinterested in proving Psi because i don't believe in it.
read this calmly and slowly.
In short.
1.You claimed Psi powers.
2. i said i don't believe you.
3. you try to convince me with "evidence", and find none credible enough to convince me.
4. You ask me to help you prove Psi.
do you see my point?
So i want you to listen and think through what im about to say.
I'm not trying to prove the exsistance of Psi, infact i didn't even know it exsited until i came here.. so i dont have too. You, on the other hand, are trying to convince us. im disinterested in proving Psi because i don't believe in it.
read this calmly and slowly.
In short.
1.You claimed Psi powers.
2. i said i don't believe you.
3. you try to convince me with "evidence", and find none credible enough to convince me.
4. You ask me to help you prove Psi.
do you see my point?
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 28 2008, 10:33 AM)
So, if it's ok for you to ask stuff of me, why won't you agree to the tets I wnat you to do?!
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Heart... i have the ability to coat my hand in a psi-shield & put it into flame without it being burnt.. i have many examples i can tell you of how i can do this.. i'm doing it right now and my friend is here who says i can do it.. i've shown heaps of people and they all say i can do it....
If you doubt me the you should try it to! I'VE given you all the evidence i need to, if you don't try it then it's just another example of a skeptic being afraid of the supernatural..
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See any problems with the claim i'm making? It's called bad logic and a horrible lack of evidence... Since I'M the one making the claim then the weight of responsibility rests with ME to prove it.. no-one else. If i claim that people not wanting to do it is hipocracy then it just shows that i can twist logic (badly) and nothing more...
A simple test to prove your psi-wheel has been layed down... but you haven't done it... YOU'RE the one with the abilities... maybe you're UNIQUE.. YOU have to show us evidence with proper controls, SIMPLE!
So, you now think I'm lying? You're new here, as I havent seen you in the metaphysics sect until just recently...Jay also...So you guys don't know, that am THE MOST dedicated believer on the metaphysics sect of this forum! I spend hours, makin vids for u people, running test, finding evidence to support my claims, finding flaws with your theories...And on top of that, I got a normal life too...I have a girlfriend, friends, family, school, homework...So, I go out on a limb to prove this to you guys...The more I do, the more you want...I am asking simple questions, simple things from you guys, and you turn it on me...
thats cool, ill have to try that
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 28 2008, 11:39 AM)
So, you now think I'm lying? You're new here, as I havent seen you in the metaphysics sect until just recently...Jay also...So you guys don't know, that am THE MOST dedicated believer on the metaphysics sect of this forum! I spend hours, makin vids for u people, running test, finding evidence to support my claims, finding flaws with your theories...And on top of that, I got a normal life too...I have a girlfriend, friends, family, school, homework...So, I go out on a limb to prove this to you guys...The more I do, the more you want...I am asking simple questions, simple things from you guys, and you turn it on me...
haha ok... yes i'm relatively new.. and i don't doubt that you are a very dedicated beleiver.. irrelavant.. again a logical non-sequtir (the conclusion has nothing to do with the premise)
Yes you made videos... but that doesn't PROVE anything... Do you admit that since you didn't cover your psi-wheel in your videos AND you had a lamp in close proximity generating considerable heat that your wheel could have been affected by air currents and heat? simple question.. simple answer.... Why can't you see why so many people doubt you when you "proof" has so many flaws in it?
All the other "proof" you've presented is stories... stories wth nothing behind them... i can tell stories too about my fantastic supernatural abilities.. they are just stories and NOT proof...
The simple questions you're asking of the skeptics... again.. have incredibly flawed premises and expected conclusions. Even the most simple scientific experimental concepts COMPLETELY blow your tests, proof and "simple questions" out of the water. You havent gone out on a limb.. you've taken a couple of minutes to give a horrible example of "proof" with more holes that a pasta strainer.
Guess what... i've got a family, a full time job, i've got a wedding to plan, i've got loans, debt, bills, appointments, responsibilities.... but i would still have more than enough time to produce the "proof" that we require... stop acting like a martyr and open your eyes as to WHY your claims are so doubtfull and WHY your evidence is so flimsy...
I know the lamp may have contributed...But I wnet back after that, and made the conditions the same as in my vid(Like wher I was standing, to the lamp bein on, to the music volume beint he same) and just sat there for like 10 minutes to see if it would pin on ti own...NOTHING! I try to move it usin TK...And what do you know! It moved!!!
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 28 2008, 12:10 PM)
I know the lamp may have contributed...But I wnet back after that, and made the conditions the same as in my vid(Like wher I was standing, to the lamp bein on, to the music volume beint he same) and just sat there for like 10 minutes to see if it would pin on ti own...NOTHING! I try to move it usin TK...And what do you know! It moved!!!
And yet we have no REAL evidence of this... only a story you've told us... with your track record of "things to remember when doing an experiment" it's likely that you're doing something incorrectly..
Unfortulently in terms of "reliability" your "proof" is very very flimsy... you tell us stories and show us videos of INCREDIBLY flawed tests... what do you want us to do?? The concepts of critical thinking and scientific enquiry have very simple rules to follow... you.. have not followed these rules or even demonstrated a basic understanding of them...
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence... NOT stories and bad experiments...
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 27 2008, 12:17 PM)
Wow...Very good! The reason you prolly had trouble with making the forth psi ball, was prolly cause you were tired..You msot likely ran out of psi...I know when you're first starting, you actually have a very small amount of psi, but once you get better, I guess you're reserves prolyl grow...You could try gathering more from the enviorment around you...That usually helps...If you wnat tips on how to maximize your psi balls, just Pm me...And alos, don't you think it's funny, that someone, that never knew what psi was, and didn't have any idea of what to feel or expect, felt the same exact symptoms my brother had? Like, I did something new today...Instead of taking the time to make a psi ball to show my friend...I went and I made psi just "flow" out of my hands, Not in any form, just kinda a constant stream of psi...My friend, Austin, knew I practiced psi and stuff...He knew a rough understanding of what psi was, like how you could supposedly make balls outta it and stuff, but nothing more...Not how it felt or anything...So, I put all five fingers out, and made psi flow, I then told him to put his hand under my fingertips(Not touching) as soon as he did, he jerked his hand back and said it was REALLY cold...I then tried it again, and this time, I could feel the psi repelling against his hand, I didn't tell him though,but he noticed that his hand felt like it was being hit with something...But dont you think it's akward, that something that "Doesn't exist" drew the same feelings from all the subjects, under the same strict conditions? And Jack, when you made the psi ball, didn't you feel a sort of coldness over your hands? Like it felt as if the breeze suddenly picked up over your hands?
I didnt feel any breez over my hands or any chill of sort when i did it to my sis. But I did feel a very strong force, kinda like magnets repelling my hands apart. It felt really dense and i could feel pressure when i moved my hands together. I attempted to make another today but with little success.
And again im not trying to use this as proof that psi/chi exist, but it is sure interesting to play around with. Even if its just your imagination running wiled im sure you can have alot of fun with this. Probebly learn alot about yourself in the process.
And check out this vid of a psi wheel. This is the best vid I have come across since the dude gave great effort to try to make this vid as skeptic proof as possible. Is it fake or is it real? just watch the vid and check out some of his others. He goes to great lengths to try to prove that convection currents arent effecting the wheel or anything els in that matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ
QUOTE (jackpaperdig @ Mar 28 2008, 12:22 PM)
That is actually a really good video, however i fear it involves trickery... at points when he leaves the frame there are glitches in the video.. I'm thinking he paused the camera, modified the setup, then unpaused it as if nothing happened, performed his amazing abilities, then leaves the frame, pauses the vid, removes the modified setup then shows starts the vid again & shows the "clean" setup
QUOTE (Im-postle-able @ Mar 28 2008, 05:32 AM)
That is actually a really good video, however i fear it involves trickery... at points when he leaves the frame there are glitches in the video.. I'm thinking he paused the camera, modified the setup, then unpaused it as if nothing happened, performed his amazing abilities, then leaves the frame, pauses the vid, removes the modified setup then shows starts the vid again & shows the "clean" setup
Yes, apparently he admitted that it is a fake on their forums.. Anyway, I can't help but agree with everything you're saying Im-postle-able.
Here's a video I made a while back, have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zf0w-DaKiU
I hope you're going to be making that video on Wednesday Heart, because so far you haven't proved anything. Im afraid stories alone can't back up your claims, neither can a simple pin wheel. I'm eager to see what you're going to do in the video, don't get discouraged. I just can't believe anything you say until proven, and I'm sure I speak for alot of other users on here.
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 28 2008, 12:39 AM)
So, you now think I'm lying? You're new here, as I havent seen you in the metaphysics sect until just recently...Jay also...So you guys don't know, that am THE MOST dedicated believer on the metaphysics sect of this forum! I spend hours, makin vids for u people, running test, finding evidence to support my claims, finding flaws with your theories...And on top of that, I got a normal life too...I have a girlfriend, friends, family, school, homework...So, I go out on a limb to prove this to you guys...The more I do, the more you want...I am asking simple questions, simple things from you guys, and you turn it on me...
nobody is calling you a liar Heart, it's just that psiballs don't prove sh*t, and i don't even need to justify since others did, it is not convincing, comprende?
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 26 2008, 07:25 PM)
As every practicioner of psi will tell you, the best proof of psychic abilities, is to try them yourselves...Especially psi balls, the feel of the energy in your hands the sensations in your palms, and throughout the rest of your body, the way you feel as if magnets are pushing your hands apart if you try and push them together...It's awsome...
if u get someone to push ur hands together whilst u try to hold them apart for about a minute and then try to put ur hands together u get a similar feeling of ur hands repulsing eachother and thats not "psi"
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Mar 27 2008, 06:45 PM)
See! There you go again! I ask the skeptics to put in a tiny amount of effort, and you turn it around on me! Typpical...
Because you do nothing but make excuses. Excuseagram3200.
This is getting kinda out of control.
QUOTE (bleedingelite @ Mar 28 2008, 06:29 PM)
This is getting kinda out of control.
dude, all of the threads here get out of control, trust me, this thread will be closed within a very very short amount of time
i tryed this on my friend and he felt it and got interested in psi also 
QUOTE (super ninja @ Apr 11 2008, 06:33 PM)
i tryed this on my friend and he felt it and got interested in psi also
Exactly...
Proves my point...
I was in class once, and told my friend, who knows nothin bout psi to put his hand where mine was
He asked why, I just said do it...
So, he put his hand where the psi ball was
As soon as he did that he went "WOOOOAH!" and immeidiately pulled his hand back...
QUOTE (Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Mar 29 2008, 01:18 AM)
Because you do nothing but make excuses. Excuseagram3200.
Then, what did you do?
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 26 2008, 05:00 PM)
Then, what did you do?
What did he do?
For the posts above ^ Let's not rule out the possiblity of power of suggestion..
This thread is sure a letdown - when somebody says "skeptics read this", I expect there to finally be some good evidence, not just more one-sided stories that for all I know are flat out lies or misunderstandings.
Hello. Im new and am 12 years old and spend a lot of time researching Telekenisis. I never tried practicals but I did today and I tried making a PSI WHEEL and stared at it like crazy till I shreddid it into tiny bits out of frustration(with my hands not my mind) then I realised I was going to fast so I meditated to get a clearer mind and focused energy into a psi ball. The first few times I felt a cold-spot in my hands then I tried with a bigger energy source and it felt like to repeling magnets pushing my hands away.
Think of it like 'The Force' from Star Wars. Now I know there are a lot of skeptics out there like I was a while back but all I can say for you is "You cannot truley believe it until you try it and succseed yourself" feel free to keep skeptical but I think you should try it for a few weeks to feel actuall result that you cannot blame to your 'imagination'
Oh and I only tried PSI BALL today. I have'nt made a fully developed one I can keep up but I have made a lot of progress in pushing energys into my hands for 40 seconds on my first day.
All I get is a cold-spot now...did I over exert myself?
Oh and if your a skeptic who's willing to believe it to try it I advise you go on: http://www.psipog.net/art-psiball-source.html
Think of it like 'The Force' from Star Wars. Now I know there are a lot of skeptics out there like I was a while back but all I can say for you is "You cannot truley believe it until you try it and succseed yourself" feel free to keep skeptical but I think you should try it for a few weeks to feel actuall result that you cannot blame to your 'imagination'
Oh and I only tried PSI BALL today. I have'nt made a fully developed one I can keep up but I have made a lot of progress in pushing energys into my hands for 40 seconds on my first day.
All I get is a cold-spot now...did I over exert myself?
Oh and if your a skeptic who's willing to believe it to try it I advise you go on: http://www.psipog.net/art-psiball-source.html
Hi! I'm new here and I am new at this, so I appologize if I will ask some questions that you have already answered to... About making psi balls, how do you make them visible and then again can they be visible to others?
I'm trying to make a visible psi ball, but I only mannaged to fell heat and something like electricity betwen my hands. When I did it in a bit darker surroundnig I could see something betwen little snakes and smoke in light blue color moving from my hands, after a few moments I could visualize a pale white-blue ball a bit larger then a tennis ball, but nothing clear, and it dissapeared after I tryed to see it better... Is it possible to make a psi ball that would be a source of light?
I'm trying to make a visible psi ball, but I only mannaged to fell heat and something like electricity betwen my hands. When I did it in a bit darker surroundnig I could see something betwen little snakes and smoke in light blue color moving from my hands, after a few moments I could visualize a pale white-blue ball a bit larger then a tennis ball, but nothing clear, and it dissapeared after I tryed to see it better... Is it possible to make a psi ball that would be a source of light?
Hello UM
Long time no see...The only reason I'm on is cause I got suspended for a week, so I have nothin to do...
Long time no see...The only reason I'm on is cause I got suspended for a week, so I have nothin to do...
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Jun 10 2008, 11:08 AM)
Hello UM
Long time no see...The only reason I'm on is cause I got suspended for a week, so I have nothin to do...
Long time no see...The only reason I'm on is cause I got suspended for a week, so I have nothin to do...
So you make a junk post. Come. Give us something real.
Make a psi ball, then place it under one of 5 identical opaque cups. turn your back and have someone mix them around. then, pick out which one the psi ball was under. Would a test like this work?
Okay Ladies and Gents...Draynos time to post.
I have tried making the so called "Psi Ball". I have come to find he concept of the "Psi Ball" would have to do with the muscles in the hand. When you hold your hand stationary it feels as if you are holding something. Also, it takes a few moments for it to "form", right? Well, this happens because when you hold your hand for a few moments a certain way..the muscles and tendons of your hand tense up and constrict. Therefore, allowing you to feel some pressure when trying to close your palm.
We all give off body heat. You don't realize it because you are mostly moving and active. Even if you are sitting at the computer, you are moving your arms..otherwise you would not type, or move the mouse. The reason you don't realize the rest of your body and limbs give off heat is that you are too focused on the subject at hand. For you to realize you are giving off heat, you must have a conscious yet focused viewing of your body. Allowing you to see the natural warmth sent off.
As said, when you constrict your hand in the form of such, like holding an imaginary ball, you must remain focused. Thus, you are actively aware to the amount of heat given off. The reason why it is more heat than normal would be that the tensing of your hand stimulates the amount blood being sent throughout that particular area...which also stimulates your nerves and heat perception.
I have tried making the so called "Psi Ball". I have come to find he concept of the "Psi Ball" would have to do with the muscles in the hand. When you hold your hand stationary it feels as if you are holding something. Also, it takes a few moments for it to "form", right? Well, this happens because when you hold your hand for a few moments a certain way..the muscles and tendons of your hand tense up and constrict. Therefore, allowing you to feel some pressure when trying to close your palm.
We all give off body heat. You don't realize it because you are mostly moving and active. Even if you are sitting at the computer, you are moving your arms..otherwise you would not type, or move the mouse. The reason you don't realize the rest of your body and limbs give off heat is that you are too focused on the subject at hand. For you to realize you are giving off heat, you must have a conscious yet focused viewing of your body. Allowing you to see the natural warmth sent off.
As said, when you constrict your hand in the form of such, like holding an imaginary ball, you must remain focused. Thus, you are actively aware to the amount of heat given off. The reason why it is more heat than normal would be that the tensing of your hand stimulates the amount blood being sent throughout that particular area...which also stimulates your nerves and heat perception.
QUOTE (Drayno @ Jun 10 2008, 06:40 PM)
Okay Ladies and Gents...Draynos time to post.
I have tried making the so called "Psi Ball". I have come to find he concept of the "Psi Ball" would have to do with the muscles in the hand. When you hold your hand stationary it feels as if you are holding something. Also, it takes a few moments for it to "form", right? Well, this happens because when you hold your hand for a few moments a certain way..the muscles and tendons of your hand tense up and constrict. Therefore, allowing you to feel some pressure when trying to close your palm.
We all give off body heat. You don't realize it because you are mostly moving and active. Even if you are sitting at the computer, you are moving your arms..otherwise you would not type, or move the mouse. The reason you don't realize the rest of your body and limbs give off heat is that you are too focused on the subject at hand. For you to realize you are giving off heat, you must have a conscious yet focused viewing of your body. Allowing you to see the natural warmth sent off.
As said, when you constrict your hand in the form of such, like holding an imaginary ball, you must remain focused. Thus, you are actively aware to the amount of heat given off. The reason why it is more heat than normal would be that the tensing of your hand stimulates the amount blood being sent throughout that particular area...which also stimulates your nerves and heat perception.
I have tried making the so called "Psi Ball". I have come to find he concept of the "Psi Ball" would have to do with the muscles in the hand. When you hold your hand stationary it feels as if you are holding something. Also, it takes a few moments for it to "form", right? Well, this happens because when you hold your hand for a few moments a certain way..the muscles and tendons of your hand tense up and constrict. Therefore, allowing you to feel some pressure when trying to close your palm.
We all give off body heat. You don't realize it because you are mostly moving and active. Even if you are sitting at the computer, you are moving your arms..otherwise you would not type, or move the mouse. The reason you don't realize the rest of your body and limbs give off heat is that you are too focused on the subject at hand. For you to realize you are giving off heat, you must have a conscious yet focused viewing of your body. Allowing you to see the natural warmth sent off.
As said, when you constrict your hand in the form of such, like holding an imaginary ball, you must remain focused. Thus, you are actively aware to the amount of heat given off. The reason why it is more heat than normal would be that the tensing of your hand stimulates the amount blood being sent throughout that particular area...which also stimulates your nerves and heat perception.
Yeah! Thats how I pretty much gathered all of it myself. But, trying to explain that to alot of these believers
is next to impossible, most of them have a one track mindset.
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ Jun 12 2008, 04:38 PM)
Yeah! Thats how I pretty much gathered all of it myself. But, trying to explain that to alot of these believers
is next to impossible, most of them have a one track mindset.
is next to impossible, most of them have a one track mindset.
Sadly.
Yes but it is still called a 'psi ball' even if you have 'figured' it out you leave off one important detail...what is heat. Heat of course is energy and if our bodies are giving off the energy and you 'capture' it thus you can direct the heat...hence being able to direct energy...which this method is used in many cultures and many techinques such as qi-gong and if you're able to 'capture' enough heat it's been proven to get up to boiling temp. of course with training and degrees...the human body is capable of many things most turn away from. Simple things, like this, whatever the name maybe called.
QUOTE (puridalan @ Jun 12 2008, 09:46 PM)
Yes but it is still called a 'psi ball' even if you have 'figured' it out you leave off one important detail...what is heat. Heat of course is energy and if our bodies are giving off the energy and you 'capture' it thus you can direct the heat...hence being able to direct energy...which this method is used in many cultures and many techinques such as qi-gong and if you're able to 'capture' enough heat it's been proven to get up to boiling temp. of course with training and degrees...the human body is capable of many things most turn away from. Simple things, like this, whatever the name maybe called.
Regardless if heat is heat. They believe they can send psychic messages to each other or whatever through a ball of energy. Which has yet to be proven.
QUOTE (Drayno @ Jun 13 2008, 01:53 AM)
Regardless if heat is heat. They believe they can send psychic messages to each other or whatever through a ball of energy. Which has yet to be proven.
Well, I never said 'messages' could be sent, though if body heat is energy, then lets take a minute to think. Heat is a chemical reaction is it not? The brain/body is made up many chemicals and chemcial transactions is it not? So, then why is it not possible for one to send a 'message' to another through chemical transference, now I am not saying feel someones heat then automactically you can read their mind, no just pick up things about them or how they feel due to the amount they exert or don't and where the heat is radiating the most from. For example you would have more heat radiating inside the body if their was an inflammation point say on the left side of the back, hence one might feel the most or least heat there...something to that extent.
QUOTE (puridalan @ Jun 12 2008, 11:07 PM)
Well, I never said 'messages' could be sent, though if body heat is energy, then lets take a minute to think. Heat is a chemical reaction is it not? The brain/body is made up many chemicals and chemical transactions is it not? So, then why is it not possible for one to send a 'message' to another through chemical transference, now I am not saying feel someones heat then automatically you can read their mind, no just pick up things about them or how they feel due to the amount they exert or don't and where the heat is radiating the most from. For example you would have more heat radiating inside the body if their was an inflammation point say on the left side of the back, hence one might feel the most or least heat there...something to that extent.
I'm too lazy to create a reply equal in every way. I know you didn't...but that is apart of the "Psi-Ball" phenomenon. I really do doubt could travel THOUSANDS of miles because a person could control it by thought. That would just be silly. In all honesty..it is an open possibility whenever in the future...but it is a simple impossibility for the next couple of years.
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