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jaylemurph
QUOTE (Emma_Acid_88 @ Mar 27 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Or until he's dead and can't be proven wrong.


I don't know. Good ole Edgar Cayce is worm-meat and he can still be proven wrong. Frequently.

QUOTE
Cayce prophesied that by 1998 California's coastline would be changed, most of Japan would disappear into the sea, new land would rise off the American east coast, and the Arctic and Antarctic regions would turn tropical.


*looks at a map. Does not see these things.

See. I just did it.

--Jaylemurph

questionmark
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 27 2008, 07:52 PM) *
I don't know. Good ole Edgar Cayce is worm-meat and he can still be proven wrong. Frequently.



*looks at a map. Does not see these things.

See. I just did it.

--Jaylemurph


I have a copy of the original '61 edition... makes a real funny read in retrospective...
jaylemurph
QUOTE (questionmark @ Mar 27 2008, 12:57 PM) *
I have a copy of the original '61 edition... makes a real funny read in retrospective...


Well clearly, you need someone to come in and give you the 'corrected' version so you can see Cayce was a gifted, proven prophet and not, say, a fraud convicted for practising medicine without a license.

--Jaylemurph
Emma_Acid
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 27 2008, 05:52 PM) *
I don't know. Good ole Edgar Cayce is worm-meat and he can still be proven wrong. Frequently.


My point being he doesn't care.
bee
QUOTE (Emma_Acid_88 @ Mar 28 2008, 10:08 AM) *
My point being he doesn't care.


Shouldn't that be didn't care?

On second thoughts....maybe the present tense MAY be correct......(but not the 'not caring' bit)

There is a young man called David Wilcock.....who is thought by many to be a re-incarnation of
Cayce.....what-ever anyone might think about that......there are some excellent interviews with
David Wilcock that can be found HERE

He has 'things' to say about 2012.....oh my golly gosh yes.....does he have 'things' to say about 2012!!

jaylemurph
QUOTE (bee @ Mar 28 2008, 06:05 AM) *
Shouldn't that be didn't care?

On second thoughts....maybe the present tense MAY be correct......(but not the 'not caring' bit)

There is a young man called David Wilcock.....who is thought by many to be a re-incarnation of
Cayce.....what-ever anyone might think about that......there are some excellent interviews with
David Wilcock that can be found HERE

He has 'things' to say about 2012.....oh my golly gosh yes.....does he have 'things' to say about 2012!!


Edgar was wrong so much that now you have to bring him back from the dead for retractions and corrections? *That* is dedication to a cause.

--Jaylemurph
bee
THE 2012 ENIGMA BY DAVID WILCOCK

This is the David Wilcock video.....it's quite long.....about an hour and a half.....but it's very good!



QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 04:03 PM) *
Edgar was wrong so much that now you have to bring him back from the dead for retractions and corrections? *That* is dedication to a cause.


I personally didn't bring him back.....I'm not Dr Frankenstein, you know..... rolleyes.gif


jaylemurph
QUOTE (bee @ Mar 28 2008, 02:13 PM) *
I personally didn't bring him back.....I'm not Dr Frankenstein, you know..... rolleyes.gif


*That* just lead to the most amusing image I've had in a while: Edgar as Frankenstein's monster with David Icke as Dr Frankenstein himself, and Sitchin as Igor, all in the lab at Castle Frankenstein, complete with a tacky black-light-lit acrylic-on-black-velvet picture of Atlantis with some wolves and unicorns on, on the back wall.

--Jaylemurph
questionmark
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 09:19 PM) *
*That* just lead to the most amusing image I've had in a while: Edgar as Frankenstein's monster with David Icke as Dr Frankenstein himself, and Sitchin as Igor, all in the lab at Castle Frankenstein, complete with a tacky black-light-lit acrylic-on-black-velvet picture of Atlantis with some wolves and unicorns on, on the back wall.

--Jaylemurph


you mean they would want to live here:

linked-image

Frankenstein Castle/Germany
Raven1971
QUOTE (HerNibs @ Mar 27 2008, 01:24 PM) *
Still wondering when the Mayan calendar starts...

How do I know it ends in 2012 if I don't know when it starts?

Hn


Not only do we know when it began, but there is nothing to suggest that it will indeed "end"; it merely says that the 13th Baktun of the Fourth World will be reached, which just happens to be the same Baktun that the Third World (a failed creation) ended. Even if there WERE some grand end of the Maya Fourth World to occur in 2012, most likely no one outside of the Maya culture would recognise it as such.

As for Biblical interpretations, remember that the books of the Christian Bible are translations of translations of translations of (well, you get the idea) of oral stories passed down through many generations, all of which were later chosen by a group of early Church leaders who were trying to select the texts most likely to appeal to the largely pagan populations of the Roman Empire as the "official" religious texts of that Empire's newly adopted religion. They are hardly accurate barometers for future events.

Raven

bee
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 07:19 PM) *
*That* just lead to the most amusing image I've had in a while: Edgar as Frankenstein's monster with David Icke as Dr Frankenstein himself, and Sitchin as Igor, all in the lab at Castle Frankenstein, complete with a tacky black-light-lit acrylic-on-black-velvet picture of Atlantis with some wolves and unicorns on, on the back wall.


very amusing..... wacko.gif


QUOTE (Raven1971 @ Mar 28 2008, 08:01 PM) *
As for Biblical interpretations, remember that the books of the Christian Bible are translations of translations of translations of (well, you get the idea) of oral stories passed down through many generations, all of which were later chosen by a group of early Church leaders who were trying to select the texts most likely to appeal to the largely pagan populations of the Roman Empire as the "official" religious texts of that Empire's newly adopted religion. They are hardly accurate barometers for future events.
Raven


if only we could travel back in time and hear the original oral stories.....
jaylemurph
QUOTE (Raven1971 @ Mar 28 2008, 03:01 PM) *
As for Biblical interpretations, remember that the books of the Christian Bible are translations of translations of translations of (well, you get the idea) of oral stories passed down through many generations, all of which were later chosen by a group of early Church leaders who were trying to select the texts most likely to appeal to the largely pagan populations of the Roman Empire as the "official" religious texts of that Empire's newly adopted religion. They are hardly accurate barometers for future events.

Raven


Christianity was never formally adopted as the state religion in the Roman Empire; it was legalised after a few centuries, but its spread was never due to an official status. The catholic church spent a good deal energy in the early middle ages re-writing history to make it look like that, though, and there are lots of poorly-made fakes (like the Donation of Constantine) that are directly attributable to the Roman church.

--Jaylemurph
questionmark
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 11:21 PM) *
there are lots of poorly-made fakes (like the Donation of Constantine) that are directly attributable to the Roman church.

--Jaylemurph


cover...incoming...but true.
Raven1971
Well, official or not (I never claimed it was the "official religion", mind - just that it was the newly adopted religion, meaning popular; official was only used for the idea of the texts approved by the Church hierarchy), it was still the fastest growing religion in the Empire, and likely wouldn't have grown so fast were it not for certain adaptations to pre-existing Roman institutions; the dusty nouveau Jewish traditions from the far-flung provinces wouldn't have sold nearly so well otherwise. As the "Roman Church" they had to select those texts that would fit their beliefs the best, yet be easily accepted among the pagan Romans who jumped on the bandwagon.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (Raven1971 @ Mar 28 2008, 07:06 PM) *
Well, official or not (I never claimed it was the "official religion", mind - just that it was the newly adopted religion, meaning popular; official was only used for the idea of the texts approved by the Church hierarchy), it was still the fastest growing religion in the Empire, and likely wouldn't have grown so fast were it not for certain adaptations to pre-existing Roman institutions; the dusty nouveau Jewish traditions from the far-flung provinces wouldn't have sold nearly so well otherwise. As the "Roman Church" they had to select those texts that would fit their beliefs the best, yet be easily accepted among the pagan Romans who jumped on the bandwagon.


Ahhh, I see what you mean.

I think there's room for quibbling there, though: Christianity was popular amongst the lower classes and slaves, especially in the cities, because it offered them a swell afterlife, and one which wasn't necessarily offered to them in more established religions. To these people, there wasn't the same recourse to pre-existing Roman institutions as to the citizens, knights and senators. I think it's arguable that these higher-class peoples by and large didn't become christian until far later in the history of Rome (or even after the Empire fell), nor did the Roman church adopt many of these institutions until after the Empire's administrative structures crumbled. The church could then overtake these without opposition.

And even if it did, there were still other forms of christianity that spread further and faster than the Latin church, especially outside the cities. The term "pagani" originally meant "villager" or "country-person". These people -- Romans and barbarians alike -- would never have the access to Roman institutions later co-opted by early Latin christians, and indeed didn't accept Latin Christianity until well into the High Middle Ages.

--Jaylemurph
Raven1971
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Mar 28 2008, 08:39 PM) *
Ahhh, I see what you mean.

I think there's room for quibbling there, though: Christianity was popular amongst the lower classes and slaves, especially in the cities, because it offered them a swell afterlife, and one which wasn't necessarily offered to them in more established religions. To these people, there wasn't the same recourse to pre-existing Roman institutions as to the citizens, knights and senators. I think it's arguable that these higher-class peoples by and large didn't become christian until far later in the history of Rome (or even after the Empire fell), nor did the Roman church adopt many of these institutions until after the Empire's administrative structures crumbled. The church could then overtake these without opposition.

And even if it did, there were still other forms of christianity that spread further and faster than the Latin church, especially outside the cities. The term "pagani" originally meant "villager" or "country-person". These people -- Romans and barbarians alike -- would never have the access to Roman institutions later co-opted by early Latin christians, and indeed didn't accept Latin Christianity until well into the High Middle Ages.

--Jaylemurph


Oh, of course the Latin church has had to adapt throughout the centuries to the places it has spread - that's one of the very reasons for its historic success; my point was simply on the selection of certain texts to fit the Greco-Roman world whose only religious reference prior thereto was the polytheistic religion of Zeus/Jupiter, at the expense of other texts whose context would have proven quite difficult to introduce. That the Church has later passed through mutations and adaptations to the regions where it has sought to establish itself is easily recognisable (I hardly recognise the same Catholic ceremonies here in Brazil that I did back in Europe).

Raven
Celtic Spirit
For some reason I can not read that red writing??????????

2012 is supposed to be the end of an era or time or circle of time when things change radically. I feel that only the spiritually inclined are going to be aware of changes that may have begun already but are supposed to increase in a certain direction depending on what we believe as a world population, a country, a region, an area or as individuals.

Everything depends on what we want and that is what the constant struggle has always been about. That's what the desperate battle has been through time, as to what to believe. Who will win??

Many theories and this is one of them.
Lando
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Mar 27 2008, 12:21 AM) *
The problem with the 2012 prophecies is how people interpret them. Such as the Mayan carving that depicts the sun and moon spewing forth water and an old crone dumping out a pot of water. One could assume that this means the world will end in a flood, BUT nearly all of the prophecies say the world is going to end in fire (this time at least). Now, if we take a more spiritual look at the carving we get a very different picture about what's going to happen. Around the year 2150 the Earth enters the Age of Aquarius, which is the next astrological sign in the Earth's procession through the zodiac. And what is the symbol of Aquarius? A person pouring water out of a pot/jug. But what does that mean? The water symbolizes knowledge being poured forth, which could mean that in 2012 we will become more spiritually aware of our impact on Earth and on each other. Aquarius is also known as a "cleansing" symbol which means that the Earth would be cleansing itself of negative influences. The fact that all of these different cultures point to approximately the same date makes it very likely that in 2012 there will be a major event in human history that will make us more aware of our connection to our planet and the awful things we are doing to her and the environment. As for the Nostradamous prophecies, they can be seen in the same way; negatively or positively. Now, this doesn't mean we should live recklessly because we only have 4 years left. We should keep trying to help people be aware of the negative things that are happening to our planet and that we need to take action NOW before it's too late. Recently scientists have discovered that Antarctic ice is melting faster than they first thought, and a chunk of ice 7 times as big as Manhatten broke off of the main ice sheet. This may be part of the prophecy of 2012. Couldn't the water also symbolize the fact that if we chose to do nothing for our planet we will all drown? I'm no prophet, but this is what I've been able to make of the prophecies.


Finally someone with a bit of brains working in the right direction. NO offence to anyone in particular but this lady is actually offering a different view of the actual meaning of all this "prophecies".
Personally I think that in general we can predict anything we want if we put the words together in any specific way. By this I mean that if we want to see the end of the world then we can construct the idea from anything that we wish to use and end with the end of the world. In the same token we can chose to predict good things to come using the same " FACTS" but arranged in a diferent way.
The maya's calendar in effect ends at arround the 23 to 25 of December 2012. However, they did not say anywhere that they ended it because that was the time the world will end. The time frame given by the mayas is a consecuence of their knowledge of astronomy and their religious beliefs. Astronomy told them that on that date ( or about that date) there would be a winter solstice and their religion that at this time the passing of our galaxy through a specific part of the universe will mean that the "SUPREME" will have the chance to go into the rest of the universe because the equivalent to a galactic door will be present. Which astronomically speaking is correct. That will happen at arroun the second half of december 2012. However, the same mayas predicted that their own civilization will once again became what it was in the year 2770 or something arround that time. So, they clearly believed that the world was not ending on 2012, otherwise they would have not predicted a more glorious mayan culture after that time .......... In other words, 2012 is no more than a time when their lives will start taking a turn for the better.
I am not aware of any onther culture predicting the end on 2012. Or in fact of anyone predicting or mentioning anything about 2012 apart from the mayas. But even of it is true that the indus, and other did mention 2012 there is nothing untoward about that as 2012 is indeed a special year for our galaxy and for that reason for our planet.

And finally on a less seriuos note. We can not even predict the weather from day to day properlly and you actually believe that 3000 years ago someone could predict something as radical as the end of the world ??????

And for the religious ones ........ Christ was asked the question about the second coming and His answer was very simple ........ He did not know because that was something tha only THE FATHER knew. In short .... just worry about living and do want you can to be a better man ( or woman) and the end will come when it comes.

Lando
Marcus
Personally I think something may happen.. There's a lot of things going on in the world that people are blind too. Actually there are clues all over the place leading to something but I think most people are frightened and refuse to look at the real deal which is understandable. Like I said, I'm reading so much.. It's sad how in my country here in America, most people don't know about the RFID chips and the New World Order.. and these will be a reality soon.. I advise everyone to do research on that.. I think all of this is heading towards that date like it or not. I'm not going to bother going into detail but I've been doing a lot of reading. I just hope people are mentally ready for what's about to come in the future. Things will get better but things have to get worst first before things start improving in our world.

NO I DIDN'T just get this from youtube.. I actually researched this.. it is happening.. They will throw you in a prison once you don't accept the RFID chip.

FEMA Camp with Better Quality Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pfGOH4uxA

Fema Concentration Camp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2aXSiN-tt4

Fema Concentration Camp Part 2..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swb6mVWqnwY...feature=related

LOCK UP ALL AMERICANS IN PRISION CAMPS/MARTIAL LAW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq3KPB064Aw

I advise everyone to at least DO RESEARCH on this and come to a conclusion yourself without looking on youtube. All of this is pointing to the 2012 date.. Wake up.. The reality we know is not a reality...
Dayne
I believe it's all due to interpretation and translation errors. The world will not end, but it will end as we know it.
crtDzyn
QUOTE (Marcus @ Mar 31 2008, 05:34 PM) *
NO I DIDN'T just get this from youtube.. I actually researched this.. it is happening.. They will throw you in a prison once you don't accept the RFID chip.

FEMA Camp with Better Quality Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pfGOH4uxA

Fema Concentration Camp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2aXSiN-tt4

Fema Concentration Camp Part 2..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swb6mVWqnwY...feature=related


I advise everyone to at least DO RESEARCH on this and come to a conclusion yourself without looking on youtube. All of this is pointing to the 2012 date.. Wake up.. The reality we know is not a reality...


Why are you only providing links to youtube, then asking us to come to a conclusion without looking on youtube???

Makes... no... sense... linked-image
questionmark
QUOTE (crtbud @ Apr 1 2008, 12:52 AM) *
Why are you only providing links to youtube, then asking us to come to a conclusion without looking on youtube???

Makes... no... sense... linked-image

thumbsup.gif but careful..don't hurt your head ...
Moon Demon
people automatically dismiss any 2012 theories, but the truth is there are a lot of scientific things that will take place in that year.
All I can say is I think it will be an exciting time and I am curious to see what happens lol.
You know during 2012 you will all be a little scared and edgy lol

also, Nostradamus scriptures can be interpreted to mean whatever you want them to mean, but if there is a specific reference to 2102, can someone post it?
questionmark
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ Apr 1 2008, 01:05 AM) *
You know during 2012 you will all be a little scared and edgy lol


The primaries after these will happen....
Raven1971
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ Mar 31 2008, 07:05 PM) *
people automatically dismiss any 2012 theories, but the truth is there are a lot of scientific things that will take place in that year.
All I can say is I think it will be an exciting time and I am curious to see what happens lol.
You know during 2012 you will all be a little scared and edgy lol

also, Nostradamus scriptures can be interpreted to mean whatever you want them to mean, but if there is a specific reference to 2102, can someone post it?

Speak for yourself - 2012 will be just another year, mate ... just because the Thirteenth Baktun of the Fourth World ends during that year, there is nothing - NOTHING - to indicate that it is the FINAL date; it is merely the end of a cycle. Whatever little hiccup is blown out of proportion by those looking to cash in on whatever unsubstantiated panic books they publish will likely be nothing of interest to the Maya themselves. Don't cancel your credit cards anytime soon, yeah?

Raven
jaylemurph
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ Mar 31 2008, 05:05 PM) *
people automatically dismiss any 2012 theories, but the truth is there are a lot of scientific things that will take place in that year.
All I can say is I think it will be an exciting time and I am curious to see what happens lol.
You know during 2012 you will all be a little scared and edgy lol

also, Nostradamus scriptures can be interpreted to mean whatever you want them to mean, but if there is a specific reference to 2102, can someone post it?


As if science /doesn't/ happen the rest of the time?!

--Jaylemurph
HArMoNIc_RaIN
QUOTE (Emma_Acid_88 @ Mar 28 2008, 01:34 AM) *
From wiki

Long Count Proleptic & Gregorian Calendar Date

0.0.0.0.0 August 11, 3114 BCE
1.0.0.0.0 November 13, 2720 BCE
2.0.0.0.0 February 16, 2325 BCE
3.0.0.0.0 May 21, 1931 BCE
4.0.0.0.0 August 23, 1537 BCE
5.0.0.0.0 November 26, 1143 BCE
6.0.0.0.0 February 28, 748 BCE
7.0.0.0.0 June 3, 354 BCE
8.0.0.0.0 September 5, 41 CE
9.0.0.0.0 December 9, 435
10.0.0.0.0 March 13, 830
11.0.0.0.0 June 15, 1224
12.0.0.0.0 September 18, 1618
13.0.0.0.0 December 21, 2012



Notice that December 21 2012 is 13.0.0.0.0 baktuns or whatever they call it for the mayans. Maybe there just supertitious about the number 13.

Emma_Acid
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ Mar 31 2008, 10:05 PM) *
people automatically dismiss any 2012 theories, but the truth is there are a lot of scientific things that will take place in that year.


THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAN - scientific things happen every second of every day.

This 2012 thing has finally run its course - all people can say now is that they "feel" that "something may happen".

QUOTE (Celtic Spirit @ Mar 30 2008, 12:24 AM) *
I feel that only the spiritually inclined are going to be aware of changes that may have begun already but are supposed to increase in a certain direction depending on what we believe as a world population, a country, a region, an area or as individuals.


Meaningless.

QUOTE (Marcus @ Mar 31 2008, 09:34 PM) *
Personally I think something may happen..


Brilliant! Well done.
QUOTE (Dayne @ Mar 31 2008, 09:51 PM) *
I believe it's all due to interpretation and translation errors. The world will not end, but it will end as we know it.


*yawn*

Let me guess, you're the only one with the right translations huh? Not the Mayan scholars who actually completely dismiss the notion that the Mayans thought the world was going to even change, let alone end?

This wishy washy "oooh I think something may perhaps slightly change" is beyond boring. Can we not have any more 2012 threads please?
Raven1971
QUOTE (Tracker7 @ Apr 1 2008, 05:35 AM) *
Notice that December 21 2012 is 13.0.0.0.0 baktuns or whatever they call it for the mayans. Maybe there just supertitious about the number 13.

Not really - the unlucky "13" comes from 13.10.1307 - Friday, 13 October 1307, the date of the Purge of the Templars -in many Western countries. Here in Brazil 13 is actually considered by many to be lucky. However, the Maya themselves were scientifically quite advanced, and hardly "superstitious". They knew the circumference of the world at a time that Europeans still felt that if you sailed far enough you'd fall over the edge of the planet.
HArMoNIc_RaIN
QUOTE (Raven1971 @ Apr 1 2008, 08:04 PM) *
Not really - the unlucky "13" comes from 13.10.1307 - Friday, 13 October 1307, the date of the Purge of the Templars -in many Western countries. Here in Brazil 13 is actually considered by many to be lucky. However, the Maya themselves were scientifically quite advanced, and hardly "superstitious". They knew the circumference of the world at a time that Europeans still felt that if you sailed far enough you'd fall over the edge of the planet.


I meant that as a joke but I would consider for a people who practice sacrificies to be extremely supertitious. Maybe you can convince me otherwise.
questionmark
QUOTE (Raven1971 @ Apr 1 2008, 02:04 PM) *
However, the Maya themselves were scientifically quite advanced, and hardly "superstitious".


Scientific advancement has absolutely nothing to do with superstition. Our society is quite advanced..yet there are still people who claim that astrology is valuable.

Raven1971
QUOTE (Tracker7 @ Apr 1 2008, 10:06 AM) *
I meant that as a joke but I would consider for a people who practice sacrificies to be extremely supertitious. Maybe you can convince me otherwise.

It depends on whether you consider deeply religious and superstitious one and the same, really. I distinguish between the two; perhaps others don't. As the Maya used sacrifice as part of religious ceremonies, I don't necessarily consider that superstition. Now, if they went into fits because someone stepped on a crack in the pavement, I might think otherwise. I will admit I didn't initially catch the joke; sorry mate. I shouldn't have tried posting so early in the morning!
jaylemurph
QUOTE (questionmark @ Apr 1 2008, 08:25 AM) *
Scientific advancement has absolutely nothing to do with superstition. Our society is quite advanced..yet there are still people who claim that astrology is valuable.


Man, if you only knew that the sun was in the house of Aquarius, you'd know how bad today is for negativism.

*rimshot: Today's joke is brought to you by Bloom County. Bloom County: the cutting edge of 1985.

--Jaylemurph
Harte
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 1 2008, 11:06 AM) *
Man, if you only knew that the sun was in the house of Aquarius, you'd know how bad today is for negativism.

*rimshot: Today's joke is brought to you by Bloom County. Bloom County: the cutting edge of 1985.

--Jaylemurph


Actually, the Sun is not in the house of Aquarius.

Wet blanket - pun intended.

Harte
SunDogDayze
Okay, class. Everybody please grab a calendar. A 12 month one would be best, and no, it doesn't matter if it's got Kittehs half-naked asian models or Dilbert on it.


Okay, see how it starts with January? Right, now flip the page. Again. Again. Do this until you come to December. See how on the last page of the calendar, on the last month, there's a date there? December 31. Now what is the next day? Where is it?? There isn't one???? ARE YOU SERIAL??


ZOMG!!!111oneone! TEH END OF DAYZ must be DEC. 31, 2008!!!



(Does anyone see what I did there?)
Raven1971
QUOTE (SunDogDayze @ Apr 2 2008, 01:00 PM) *
Okay, class. Everybody please grab a calendar. A 12 month one would be best, and no, it doesn't matter if it's got Kittehs half-naked asian models or Dilbert on it.


Okay, see how it starts with January? Right, now flip the page. Again. Again. Do this until you come to December. See how on the last page of the calendar, on the last month, there's a date there? December 31. Now what is the next day? Where is it?? There isn't one???? ARE YOU SERIAL??


ZOMG!!!111oneone! TEH END OF DAYZ must be DEC. 31, 2008!!!



(Does anyone see what I did there?)


laugh.gif

Let's ensure the survival of threads for generations to come; bury your old calendars in waterproof containers in the garden!
jaylemurph
QUOTE (SunDogDayze @ Apr 2 2008, 11:00 AM) *
ZOMG!!!111oneone! TEH END OF DAYZ must be DEC. 31, 2008!!!


That'll be 7 cents, please.

--Jaylemurph

PS: Welcome back, SDD. You have been gone, right, or am I just /really/ self absorbed?

PPS: Don't answer that.
SunDogDayze
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 2 2008, 03:12 PM) *
That'll be 7 cents, please.

--Jaylemurph

PS: Welcome back, SDD. You have been gone, right, or am I just /really/ self absorbed?

PPS: Don't answer that.


*making check out to Jaylemurph*

BTW, you're not self absorbed. I haven't posted anything in this topic for a while. I got sucked into a few religious debates...and they were so ridiculous that it felt better to come back in here and debate 2012...that's so sad...
Lion of Judah
Nastrudamus saw way into the future into the year 3000 humans are still around but not before a mass apocalypse happens
crtDzyn
He must've been tripping on some pretty heavy stuff...
Emma_Acid
QUOTE (Lion of Judah @ Apr 3 2008, 02:55 PM) *
Nastrudamus saw way into the future into the year 3000 humans are still around but not before a mass apocalypse happens


And would you like to show exactly in his writings it says this?
1.618
QUOTE (Emma_Acid_88 @ Apr 3 2008, 03:26 PM) *
And would you like to show exactly in his writings it says this?


Could be interpreted anywhere in his writings. They weren't exactly precise about anything, were they?
SunDogDayze
QUOTE (1.618 @ Apr 3 2008, 11:33 AM) *
Could be interpreted anywhere in his writings. They weren't exactly precise about anything, were they?


There IS a certain beauty in being vague, isn't there? wink2.gif
1.618
The story of my life grin2.gif
Mostar
geeez i hate it when you read something and the person is very set that they assume you think they are crazy or that you are ignorant.

and why do people add their name at the end of what they say ? thats why the window and suer thing is there for.......

as for 2012

Wait some years and we will see.
Moonie2012
Hi.
Harte
QUOTE (SunDogDayze @ Apr 2 2008, 11:00 AM) *
Okay, class. Everybody please grab a calendar. A 12 month one would be best, and no, it doesn't matter if it's got Kittehs half-naked asian models or Dilbert on it.


It does matter to me.

While I like Dilbert, I'll take door number 2 if you don't mind. laugh.gif

QUOTE (Mostar @ Apr 18 2008, 08:07 AM) *
and why do people add their name at the end of what they say ? thats why the window and suer thing is there for.......


I have no idea. It certainly is irritating, isn't it?

Harte
NoahJaymes
haha yea it is

Crywolf
Tannenisis
QUOTE (Tracker7 @ Apr 1 2008, 09:06 AM) *
I meant that as a joke but I would consider for a people who practice sacrificies to be extremely supertitious. Maybe you can convince me otherwise.


As an aside, sacrifice of the human sort is still practiced today. It is only more hidden and done in terms of calculations rather than gruesome rituals. For any given medication on the market, an acceptable percentage of people are allowed to die from complications from them. This is based on a calculation of the percentage of the population (from trial tests) they predict will have these fatal/catastrophic reactions. The only question is whether their margin of error is off by percentage points. A low percentage is an acceptable sacrifice to "save" the greater good.

As long as we think in terms of numbers and dollars, sacrifice is stripped of its former connotations and far more palatable. The Stock Market is another example.

So you see, we are not that far removed from the Mayans even if we consider ourselves to be rational. I believe it is our modern rationality that seeks to distinguish ourselves as better or more evolved than our ancestors when this may not be true.

On topic, 2012 is the end of a cycle. But nothing in this life happens all at once. It is usually a gradual change that ripples through humanity. When studying the early part of the 1900s, one sees the set up for WWI quite plainly. But it took a while for it to gear up to a war. Whatever change/shift occurs that year will merely influence the years after it. Our problem is not 2012, but rather surviving the ramifications of the changes our planet will begin having that year. Because we are physically finite creatures, we think in terms of the "end of the world" because such scenerios either compel us to action or push us further into stagnation. If we accepted that change happens in the every day, that all moments are 2012-like, that one second can alter the trajectory of a life forever, then we would have no need of prophecies. We would simply live accordingly today, in this moment without casting our eyes into the future to cringe at fears we think will manifest.

Every prophecy ignores one vital thing: Choice.
curiosity_killed_the_cat
Bah 2012 over and over again..... it's just another date people! How many times has the "end of the world" been predicted, only for the sun to rise another day on this turning ball of rock teeming with people? On December 22, 2012 are we all alowed to laugh and say I told you so?

As for Nostradamus.... don't you think that his vauge quatrains can be used to support any wackjob's psedoscience theories about end of the world, anti christ, giant super volcanoes, solar flare maximums, World War 3, meteorites, passing nonexistant planets , and please feel free to insert any other end of the world theories circling around the winter solstice of 2012...

Once again I say BAH

so sick of 2012..... going to hibernate.... just wake me the day after .... if we're all still here that is.... LOL
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