Hey everyone Im new to this site
I wasnt planning on starting any threads anytime soon but Ive taken an interest in the discussions on psi balls or balls of psychic energy and I am a believer but Im not here to argue on weather psychic abilities are real or not I want to suggest a challenge to people who believe they can create psi balls and it does require some time and patience so here it goes: (also PLEASE take the time to read everything)
- What you'll need:
* A camera
* A brand new EMF (electro magnetic fields) Meter still in its packaging
heres a website with some helpful info on EMF meters:
http://www.ghostsrus.com/explaining_electr...etic_fields.htm
you can also check wikipedia
* Some chalk or tape
* paper and pen to take notes
* Last but not least a friend to hold the camera and help you out
- Getting Started:
* You'll need to start off by picking out 3 areas
2 rooms in your home like a bedroom, attic, basement, living room
the last area will be somewhere outside.
* In each room pick the spot youll be making the psi ball in and place a piece of tape there or mark it with chalk.
* make sure most of your electrical appliances are turned off or unplugged.
* Open the packaging and take out the EMF meter on camera so everyone can see that its a real meter and nothings been tampered with.
* Now go around the room and record the emf numbers and make sure the numbers can be seen on camera so everyone can see your not lying then record the number where you marked with tape or chalk. Then stand on the marked spot and record the emf readings on cam with you standing there.
* Now dont create a psi ball just yet just hold your hands out in the way you would when creating a psi ball and hold the EMF meter in between your hands and record the numbers, also have your friend put thier hand in between yours and ask what they feel but rememer dont create the psi ball during this.
* OKay now create the psi ball and when your ready you can tell your friend to hold the meter in between your hands or blink twice or something like that to let your friend know its time to use the EMF without breaking your concentration. Once the numbers are recorded your friend should again put their hand between yours and explain what they feel.
* REPEAT these steps in every location.
THE POINT: A psi ball is a ball of psychic energy so an EMF meter should be able to pick up a spike in the electro magnetic fields when you create a psi ball or at least that my theory which is why you should record the EMF readings in the area before you start.
WHY so many diff areas: because an experiment is done over and over again before proven you can also try this experiment in the same areas more than once if you like.
I CANT STRESS ENOUGH: following all of the steps and making sure everything is recorded !! which means no editing make sure you and your friend plan everything out that way you keep things moving quickly and there is NO EDITING AT ALL so people can see that nothing was manipulated. I know watching people move from one area to another is boring but we need to show nothing was changed.
I KNOW: if people do try this and even though it will be intriguing that it still wont prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that psi balls are real but it will be more of a scientific approach and or experiment. Also it will show that something! is going on.
THANK YOU for taking the time to read this I know its alot and as I said before it is a bit much to ask but alot of skeptics want PROOF! and I havent seen anyone come up with an idea like this which in my opinion is pretty legit. So again thanks for reading and I do plan on trying this experiment some time in the future and posting a new forum on it.
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Wow, I really hope somebody tries this.
Wf, welcome aborad.
I sense that you meant your post your post sincerely. Do you ever go to the movies, maybe watch some on TV? Can you think of anything that hasn't been faked on film?
So you buy two identical meters, and your buddy pockets one before the show begins. Or there's a third person who turns on-or-off electrical equipment off camera, or ...
Documentary evidence is useful because it can be more specific than written or spoken testimony, and so helps to establish what the witness is testifying about.
It is useless for determining whether the witness is lying or not. That can often be established on cross-examination, but not always then, either, of course. Relying exclusively on a video simply announces that you are unwilling or unable to take cross-examination.
The only evidentiary value of filming elaborate precautions would be to establish that you took those precautions, not that fakery was eliminated. Elaborate, but ultimately inadequate, precautions simply remind your audience of stage magicians who make very sure you notice that there's nothing up their sleeve.
Because the gizmo isn't in their sleeve, but it is in their palm as they roll up their sleeve, and it will be in their sleeve soon enough, when they roll the sleeve back down again while directing your attention to some other place where the gizmo isn't.
I sense that you meant your post your post sincerely. Do you ever go to the movies, maybe watch some on TV? Can you think of anything that hasn't been faked on film?
So you buy two identical meters, and your buddy pockets one before the show begins. Or there's a third person who turns on-or-off electrical equipment off camera, or ...
Documentary evidence is useful because it can be more specific than written or spoken testimony, and so helps to establish what the witness is testifying about.
It is useless for determining whether the witness is lying or not. That can often be established on cross-examination, but not always then, either, of course. Relying exclusively on a video simply announces that you are unwilling or unable to take cross-examination.
The only evidentiary value of filming elaborate precautions would be to establish that you took those precautions, not that fakery was eliminated. Elaborate, but ultimately inadequate, precautions simply remind your audience of stage magicians who make very sure you notice that there's nothing up their sleeve.
Because the gizmo isn't in their sleeve, but it is in their palm as they roll up their sleeve, and it will be in their sleeve soon enough, when they roll the sleeve back down again while directing your attention to some other place where the gizmo isn't.
Yeah, well of course there are ways to fake it. I still think it would be a really cool experiment, and I'd probably give the person trying it the benefit of the doubt as far as whether or not he or she is lying. And if they are lying, there's a good chance that they'll eventually admit it anyways. I'd be thrilled to see somebody give this a shot.
QUOTE (eight bits @ Mar 28 2008, 10:27 AM) 
Wf, welcome aborad.
I sense that you meant your post your post sincerely. Do you ever go to the movies, maybe watch some on TV? Can you think of anything that hasn't been faked on film?
So you buy two identical meters, and your buddy pockets one before the show begins. Or there's a third person who turns on-or-off electrical equipment off camera, or ...
Documentary evidence is useful because it can be more specific than written or spoken testimony, and so helps to establish what the witness is testifying about.
It is useless for determining whether the witness is lying or not. That can often be established on cross-examination, but not always then, either, of course. Relying exclusively on a video simply announces that you are unwilling or unable to take cross-examination.
The only evidentiary value of filming elaborate precautions would be to establish that you took those precautions, not that fakery was eliminated. Elaborate, but ultimately inadequate, precautions simply remind your audience of stage magicians who make very sure you notice that there's nothing up their sleeve.
Because the gizmo isn't in their sleeve, but it is in their palm as they roll up their sleeve, and it will be in their sleeve soon enough, when they roll the sleeve back down again while directing your attention to some other place where the gizmo isn't.
I sense that you meant your post your post sincerely. Do you ever go to the movies, maybe watch some on TV? Can you think of anything that hasn't been faked on film?
So you buy two identical meters, and your buddy pockets one before the show begins. Or there's a third person who turns on-or-off electrical equipment off camera, or ...
Documentary evidence is useful because it can be more specific than written or spoken testimony, and so helps to establish what the witness is testifying about.
It is useless for determining whether the witness is lying or not. That can often be established on cross-examination, but not always then, either, of course. Relying exclusively on a video simply announces that you are unwilling or unable to take cross-examination.
The only evidentiary value of filming elaborate precautions would be to establish that you took those precautions, not that fakery was eliminated. Elaborate, but ultimately inadequate, precautions simply remind your audience of stage magicians who make very sure you notice that there's nothing up their sleeve.
Because the gizmo isn't in their sleeve, but it is in their palm as they roll up their sleeve, and it will be in their sleeve soon enough, when they roll the sleeve back down again while directing your attention to some other place where the gizmo isn't.
Thanks for the warm welcome eight bits ^___^
As i said i know that this experiment wont prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that psi balls are real but it would be interesting. I know these things can be faked of course but it doesnt hurt to try. Also thats why i asked that nothing be edited and that everything the person does is recorded so that the viewer can see EVERYTHING. There is still room for deception but camera tricks can be de-bunked for lack of a better word. I think this experiment is better than some one just saying they can do it or just recording themselves doing it and having their friends say "yea I feel something"
QUOTE (bleedingelite @ Mar 28 2008, 10:57 AM)
Yeah, well of course there are ways to fake it. I still think it would be a really cool experiment, and I'd probably give the person trying it the benefit of the doubt as far as whether or not he or she is lying. And if they are lying, there's a good chance that they'll eventually admit it anyways. I'd be thrilled to see somebody give this a shot.
HI bleedingelite !
Im glad you like the idea I plan on trying this experiment sometime in the future but till then I also hope someone else is willing to give it a try.
If you are sincere about "someone" doing this, then you more readily hasten the day by keeping it simple.
By all means, establish that the meter (any meter) works on camera, and then drive it with your hands. Post the video, and present yourself for questionning.
Sweet and simple. You could do it today.
One of the chief k-skeptic complaints is that there's always an excuse for not coming up with evidence. To say "oh, I have to do all this planning, and my friend has to go to the dentist today, and ..." when it is perfectly apparent that the proposed precautions do not eliminate the possibility of fraud is to validate the komplaints.
By all means, establish that the meter (any meter) works on camera, and then drive it with your hands. Post the video, and present yourself for questionning.
Sweet and simple. You could do it today.
One of the chief k-skeptic complaints is that there's always an excuse for not coming up with evidence. To say "oh, I have to do all this planning, and my friend has to go to the dentist today, and ..." when it is perfectly apparent that the proposed precautions do not eliminate the possibility of fraud is to validate the komplaints.
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