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Espiritu Varma
Hey guys, it's been awhile! How is everyone doing? I now have some evidence of my friends clairvoyant abilities. See, he took an online zenner card test and got some impressive results. For instance, he got 8 out of 25, which for all intent's and purposes, is not all that impressive. But the freaky thing was, before he got to his first 10 guesses on that same run, he had scored 5 out of 7!! Chance says that you're suppose to get around 5 out of 25! He also got 11 out of 25. The tests protocols require at least 10 out of 25 to count as any sign of ESP. He also got 0 out of 25. We've read that getting them all wrong is almost as difficult as getting them all right! And we've captured his results on camera....there's just one problem.....we don't know how to download them on unexplained-mysteries....can somebody help us! Thanks a bundle
eight bits
Wouldn't be simpler to just add up all the hits he got in all the trials he made, and in how many trials, and post the counts?

Like 19 out of 75 in the three trials you mentioned, for example (19 = 8 + 11 + 0, unless I missed one). "Chance" is 15 (assuming your bud don't learn the pseudorandom number generator's pattern, but on the web, there wouldn't anything but the highest quality, would there?).

Of course, in 75 tries, there will be short runs of higher success. And no, with a 20% chance of success on each trial, it vastly more likely to get them all wrong than to get them all right

To answer the question asked:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/gallery/upload.php
Espiritu Varma
thank you so much. I'm getting really irritated however because we captured the evidence on a camera phone, and we are trying to download on or computer so we can upload it here! But we're both techno-illiterate at this level. blink.gif
Do you have any suggestions....PLEASE! WE ARE DYING TO SHOW THIS!! original.gif
And p.s. The reason we did it the way we did was because, yes, adding them all up would have been another good idea. But the thing was, when he got 5 out of 7 correct, that, to me, wasn't normal because odds say that it should happen around 5 out of 25. Whether early guesses can be high or not, getting that many correct in that short amount of guessing...at the very beginning of the trial...to me seems highly unusual, I've been searching around the Web to see both skeptics view and proponent's view on this matter, which is why I'm not gonna argue about the 0 out of 25 thing being highly probable; reason being is though I strongly disagree, based upon the article I read, I still need to do more research on this "psi-missing" phenomenon". You may indeed be right! original.gif Thanks for everything. original.gif
eight bits
I don't know what equipment you have, but here's a generic article to get you started:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Cellular-Phone-V...?&id=328324

The phone itself should have come with some documentation of its formats, how to migrate captured video, etc.

Hope that helps.
AeonsOld
all those out there trying to prove things like this -- what is the purpose? are you helping others? i would suggest you find a reputable institution that is respected for measuring this type of thing. And by the way... the MINIMAL acceptable statistical sample is 30 - and this is not very reliable.

As with similar touted experiments on other posts... I would suggest you repeat a similar exercise from my university senior class: repeat the same thing several hundred times while auto-summing the results in a tabulated program. When the percentage approaches a stable number you can stop.

PS -- half the class failed the assignment by not testing the experiment sufficiently - wow if the results of winning at craps were 52% we'd all live in Vegas.
Espiritu Varma
Why do people like me and my friend do this? Quite simple: if someone makes a claim that they can do something, and people have a hard time believing them, what's the problem with giving some evidence? And as far as helping people...forgive me, but what was the point to that question? Are you implying that by pursuing something that me and my friend are passionate about that we're being silly and wasting our time, or did you mean something else that I didn't entirely catch? We do this because it challenges our minds, his literally, and mine philosophically. As well evidenced here at Unexplained Mysteries, many skeptics get tired of hearing I can do such and such by such. Many skeptics say they'd simply like proof...without excuses: their motto seems to be "either put out or shut up!", which I agree with about 56%. But I digress. My whole point of that little speech was to give point as to why people like me and my friend try to prove psychic abilities exist...because others ask us to, and to expand our minds. And by the way, about you minimum 30 times deal. That may be true if a person were consistently getting low end spectrum numbers over that many times of Zener card testing (like, consistently getting 7 or 8 out of 25 during 30 runs), but as I have stated before, AeonsOld, my friend has on three occasions, two with physical evidence posted on youtube, received a score of 11 out of 25. Now there is only a 1%, or 1 in 100 probability of that happening by chance....and that is just once. My friend has also, just a couple of hours ago, got a score of 18 out of 50. There is only a 1 in 124 chance of that happing by pure fluke. original.gif
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