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Guyver
I've notice some similarities between the creature in the Patterson photos and the Jacobs creature. Most people consider the Jacobs camera trap photos to be that of a black bear with mange. In the blow-ups of that creature you'll notice some lumpy looking shapes on the quad groups, glutes, and hip areas. I've noticed similar looking knots (muscles?) on the Patterson creature. Do you think that this is one more proof of the authenticity of the Patterson film? What is your take on these apparent knotted muscles? What are they?

Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (Yetihunter @ Mar 30 2008, 11:24 AM) *
I've notice some similarities between the creature in the Patterson photos and the Jacobs creature. Most people consider the Jacobs camera trap photos to be that of a black bear with mange. In the blow-ups of that creature you'll notice some lumpy looking shapes on the quad groups, glutes, and hip areas. I've noticed similar looking knots (muscles?) on the Patterson creature. Do you think that this is one more proof of the authenticity of the Patterson film? What is your take on these apparent knotted muscles? What are they?

If one takes the time to actually look at the mechanics behind both of those images, one can clearly see that the sort of technology required to make a suit that actually showed MUSCLES through the skin, did not exists when the Patterson video was taken. I've seen this video analyzed by video specialists on tv, and you can clearly see the muscles working beneath the skin, and the change in facial expressions between frames. Most people just outright say both are hoaxes, and don't take the time to analyze these sightings, which is a big mistake on their part. Personally, the Jacobs photo doesn't look anything like a bear to me. I've never seen a bear with limbs like those before! And again, the muscles can be seen clearly through the skin, so it's highly unlikely that it's someone in a suit. Good job noticing the similarities!
makaya325
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Mar 30 2008, 09:27 PM) *
If one takes the time to actually look at the mechanics behind both of those images, one can clearly see that the sort of technology required to make a suit that actually showed MUSCLES through the skin, did not exists when the Patterson video was taken. I've seen this video analyzed by video specialists on tv, and you can clearly see the muscles working beneath the skin, and the change in facial expressions between frames. Most people just outright say both are hoaxes, and don't take the time to analyze these sightings, which is a big mistake on their part. Personally, the Jacobs photo doesn't look anything like a bear to me. I've never seen a bear with limbs like those before! And again, the muscles can be seen clearly through the skin, so it's highly unlikely that it's someone in a suit. Good job noticing the similarities!


the jacobs creature is definitely a bear. if you look at its feet, they look more like paws, not human like feet. and bear populations are pretty dense where jacobs see up his camera. nothing unusual.

whats amazing is that jim mclarin walked in pattys exact footsteps. hes 6 ft 5.5 and they superimposed patty, and patty turned out to be taller, and way more massive
Guyver
Thanks for the responses. I'd still like to hear someone talk about the knots. Anyone out there ever hunt black bear? Ever see these types of lumps? What are they?
MakeshiftSage
A bear with mange that knows yoga --I might buy that one. wink2.gif
Guyver
Things must be running slow on the crypto boards. I thought people would jump on this one.
bball
QUOTE (Yetihunter @ Mar 31 2008, 07:21 PM) *
Things must be running slow on the crypto boards. I thought people would jump on this one.

This photo has been analyzed and viewed tons of times by experts and in topics on this very board. Most people view it and accept that it just as a bear with mange. Especially considering bears were photographed a mere 30 minutes before in the exact same spot.

Not sure what you mean by the similar muscles/knots. We don't need to see some blurry photos of bears to further show that the Patterson creature seems to have visible muscles. Why use blurry photos of a bear with mange when we can google bear or great apes and see all kinds of great pics and the muscles on them and use these a comparison for the Patterson film.
The Mule
Good theory Yetihunter....
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (makaya325 @ Mar 30 2008, 04:26 PM) *
the jacobs creature is definitely a bear. if you look at its feet, they look more like paws, not human like feet. and bear populations are pretty dense where jacobs see up his camera. nothing unusual.

whats amazing is that jim mclarin walked in pattys exact footsteps. hes 6 ft 5.5 and they superimposed patty, and patty turned out to be taller, and way more massive

How can it be a bear? It doesn't have any visible snout that I can see. I've never seen a bear with a flat face....And if the photo is as blurry as everyone claims, how can you tell if the feet are paws or actual primate feet?
sam12six
I think it's pretty clearly a bear. It doesn't have a flat face, you can't see it's face because it's behind it's leg.

If it were just standing normally instead of doing *AHEM* whatever it is doing, there wouldn't be anyone who doubts that it's a bear.

QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Mar 31 2008, 11:56 PM) *
How can it be a bear? It doesn't have any visible snout that I can see. I've never seen a bear with a flat face....And if the photo is as blurry as everyone claims, how can you tell if the feet are paws or actual primate feet?

Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (sam12six @ Mar 31 2008, 09:13 PM) *
I think it's pretty clearly a bear. It doesn't have a flat face, you can't see it's face because it's behind it's leg.

If it were just standing normally instead of doing *AHEM* whatever it is doing, there wouldn't be anyone who doubts that it's a bear.

If that's true, then the head would be grossly out of proportion in respect to the rest of the creature's body.
Guyver
I understand that the Jacob's creature has been analyzed and their have been topics about it - I'm not trying to restart a dead thread. My point is that there are similar looking lumps on the creature that look like the ones on the Patterson bigfoot. The muscles or knots or whatever they are look similar. No one disagrees that the Jacobs creature is a real animal. Lady O and many others think it's not a bear; I think it probably is a black bear. I haven't heard anyone make the comparison that I'm referring to.
makaya325
even in blurry photos, some things are apprerent. whats apparent in jacobs photo are feet that are definitely not ape, and bear paws are identical to the subjects foot.

if patty is a real mammal, which isnt out of the question, it and other large mammals share fur flapping, muscle flexing
The Mule
QUOTE (Yetihunter @ Apr 1 2008, 12:20 AM) *
My point is that there are similar looking lumps on the creature that look like the ones on the Patterson bigfoot. The muscles or knots or whatever they are look similar....... I haven't heard anyone make the comparison that I'm referring to.



I thought thats what Lady O was saying in her first post....agreeing with you.....Thats what I meant by "good theory"
Guyver
Thanks Mule!
Yorgmiester
The Jacobs creature has always looked more like an furry alien to me.Seriously.
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