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QUOTE (Ozi @ Apr 3 2008, 09:06 AM)

WEll like i said about neil armstrong, its not verified, its never been and neil did say very little on the matter, although after our discourse i did do some research and it seems he cleared this misconception. Im glad, because personally i dont believe man has been to the moon. Its make not difference to me at all.
Yes, he did clear it. However, I fail to see why your glad in reference to the skewed notion that you don't believe man has been to the Moon. It doesn't make any sense.
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Easy, they are called terrorists by you, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter
That's your explanation? Calling terrorists freedom fighters?
You have got to be kidding.
You're implying a defense of these tactics, and even a support for them....
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So what do you do, well you feed the fire with fuel, by starting an illegal war, produce hate inciting cartoons, war objectives for oil, money and power, but allegedly went in for WMD's, when they could not find any of those, they decided to do a regime change. Still an illegal war, as a result thousands have died, been tortured, raped, arrested for no reason, and still in prison for simply being muslim.
bull...absolute dung.
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You claim muslim countries dont denoucnce what terrorists do, when they kill innocent poeple, i have no problem with them killing soldiers or military personnel, but i do have a problem with them killing innocent poeple using suicide bombs, many muslims nations have denounced it, you could not fight your alleged war on terror, without pakistan, OMG, thats a muslim country standing side by side, is it doing it because it wants or has to is another question, i reckon if it decided not to, it would have been sent back tothe stone ages, thats what america is best at, bombing the sh** out of weaker nations etc. I mean they had to put on sanctions of iraq, to weaken it, and destory it from within, to make sure when it does invade over some fairy tale reason, that there would not be much resistance, as the sanction will have destroyed the infrastructure and the army. what is going to satify poeple like you is, if only muslim picked up arms and killed their fellow muslim in these illegally occupied lands, and then maybe you would satisfied, although this is happening.
This is absolutely crazy.
I asked you why the Muslim community fails to stand united and publically denounce this action by terrorists who use their religion as some sort of shield for their actions, and you answer with this bilge?
You have no problem with them killing military personnel and soldiers?
Hint for you: Muslims are picking up arms and killing their fellow Muslims. Where have you been?
Hint number 2: No one is "illegally" occupying any country. The Americans are not occupying Iraq. Iraq is receiving much needed assistance from America. Iraq has been governing themselves for quite some time now. They're not quite where they need to be yet, but they're getting there...
You really ought to learn what "occupation" means.
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Daniel Pearl was unlucky, just like the thousands of iraqi children who died as a result of econmic sanctions before and saddam, and now die because of insurgence, wanting to get rid of the occupying forces, and the cowardly action of armies, to fight from distance and drop bombs from the skies, really brave.
Unlucky, eh?
Yes, you could certainly say that...
Anyone who died in Iraq died as the result of Saddham. If economic sanctions hit him...who's fault was that?
HE was responsible for all of it. The Iraqi people seemed to agree, when they hanged him....
The COWARDLY ACTIONS OF ARMIES?
You know what, this is about as skewed a mindset as I've yet seen here.
American troops are UNIFORMED, and patrol in the open. The enemy is not uniformed, not legal combatants, and hide behind their own people, sacrificing them for their clandestine ends. You don't know who the enemy is because THEY HIDE THEMSELVES...like the cowards that they are.
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I could go on, but i guess you get the point. As for beheading in saudi, for breaking the law, well if you commit murder in america you stand teh chance of having the death penalty, what does that teach you, dont kill in america, if you dont like it, dont go there. Like singapore, has the death penalty for drug smuggling, what do you do, if you wanna smuggle drugs there, you run the risk of being killed by the state for breaking the law, in the same way, you break the law ofthe land in Saudi, you have death penalty. Simple.
You know, this avoiding an answer to my question seems to have answered it.
You are a Muslim, undoubtedly....perhaps what we might consider a mainstream Muslim. God knows I hope not...but if so, your defense of terrorists, by implying that they're "freedom fighters", and your weak attempts to turn the tables by making all this nonsensical talk about illegal wars and cowardly tactics by uniformed soldiers fighting a cowardly, un-uniformed enemy that hides behind their own people, and by implying that our soldiers rape and torture and pillage...things which haven't occurred, and by pasing off every nasty thing that has happened in the Middle East to the American and Coalition forces...
...and this utter nonsense about relatively minor, albeit stupid and tasteless acts by a few soldiers at Abu Graibh, which incidentally pale in comparison to terrorist acts, and have resulted
in people being imprisoned and a Commanding General being dismissed--
gee, I wonder how many of the black masked men who committed truly heainous acts against defenseless civilians are in prison for their illegal and cowardly acts--points to the distressing answer to my question.
You actually accept this stuff.
You won't condemn it, and you won't stand against it. You're afraid to admit that it is indeed wrong, heinous, and Muslim in origin. You deny it.
If you're representative of Islamic attitudes in general, then we have a much more serious problem than we already have.
This was a pitiful excuse for an answer.