Tom2943
Apr 1 2008, 03:19 PM
Hi guys,
Just something I noticed today, I tried to ignore it at first but I can't think of a logical explanation for it. Remember that I've never reported any personal experience which I have considered paranormal to you, so it's not as though I have a habit of making random claims.
Earlier on today, a friend of mine pointed out several marks on my wrist, so noticable she assumed I had at some point attempted self-harming. There are seven cuts across my right wrist, directly over my vein - there's about half a centimetre between each. I shrugged off her concern - but these cuts almost resemble scars, they don't look fresh and furthermore. They sure as hell weren't on my wrist last night.
Any theories? I'll be back on in about an hour.
Thanks
Ichigo
Apr 1 2008, 04:01 PM
Go to a doctor, no one will be able to help you here
gabolai
Apr 1 2008, 04:57 PM
Do you have any pics? Also were you wearing a long sleeved shirt or anything that could constrict and cause the marks?
What about some sort of parasite?
I hope you figure it out. . .
bigwedgie
Apr 1 2008, 04:59 PM
Have you been in contact with anything that you are not normally used to, for example have you bought new clothing, particularly anything that comes into contact with your wrist area, have you changed your washing powder or fabric conditioner, do you have anything on your wrist that may cause irritation like a base metal bracelet or watch ?
Have you handled any chemicals or stroked any strange pets, believe me the cause is much more likley to be down to an allergy or reaction rather than anything spooky.
Keep an eye on it, show it to a health professional and get some face to face advice
Papaver
Apr 1 2008, 05:49 PM
Good advice so far. I'd also like to add that it is possible to develop an allergic reaction to something at any time, even if you've been in contact with the cause for your whole life without any problems.
As an example my mother in law peeled a kiwi fruit to give to her grandson a few years ago, something she'd done literally hundreds of times in her life. A few minutes after handling the fruit she was covered in blotches, her eyelids swelled up and frighteningly so did her throat and tongue. She's a nurse and new exactly what was happening and asked to be taken immediately to hospital where she was quickly treated.
Your symptoms aren't the same but the point is a reaction to something can occur at any time.
Take the advice of the others here and go to see your doctor.
Tom2943
Apr 1 2008, 09:00 PM
Thank you all for your advice. I haven't been wearing any clothing with long sleeves lately, nor can I recall any major changes in my lifestyle, so I'll get this checked out in the morning if the marks haven't gone. To answer gabolai's question, no I don't have any pictures, but if you insist on seeing I could take one. I realise the explanation is almost definitely entirely normal, and had the marks not been on my wrist (I've known too many people who have attempted to commit suicide in this way) I wouldn't have mentioned it. Cheers for the kind advice, and for not considering me to be a complete nutter
Shankpin
Apr 1 2008, 09:25 PM
scratching yourself in your sleep..
Tom2943
Apr 1 2008, 09:43 PM
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Apr 1 2008, 09:25 PM)

scratching yourself in your sleep..
The marks are too close together, nor are my nails sharp enough.
True Believer
Apr 1 2008, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 1 2008, 02:43 PM)

The marks are too close together, nor are my nails sharp enough.
Do you have any of these other symptoms?
* Disturbing sensations of insect-like crawling, stinging or biting on or under the skin (formication)
* Skin rashes and lesions that do not heal
* Fiber-like filaments, granules or crystals that appear on or under the skin or that can be extracted from lesions
* Joint, muscle and connective tissue pain, including fibromyalgia
* Debilitating fatigue
* Cognitive dysfunction, including difficulty with concentration, short-term memory, and attention
s thiker and red in color appear on the wrist.
Ourmoonlitsun
Apr 1 2008, 11:09 PM
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Apr 1 2008, 09:25 PM)

scratching yourself in your sleep..
I one time woke up during a trip to Hawaii, taken with classmates, with pretty pronounced fingernail scratches all over my back--I always assumed it was classmates playing a trick on me...either that or I...ahem...became a "man" little bit earlier than what I currently like to believe.
That's what happens when you blackout for six hours in Hawaii and everyone is partying.
True story. And the scratches were pretty vicious.
SpaceCadet
Apr 2 2008, 12:35 AM
I'm waiting for a picture!
Tom2943
Apr 2 2008, 10:40 AM
QUOTE (SpaceCadet @ Apr 2 2008, 12:35 AM)

I'm waiting for a picture!

Alright, I took one on my camera last night, let me upload it to Photobucket and then onto here. I apologise in advance for the image quality, I really need a better camera. I'll edit this post when the picture is ready.
EDIT:

Like I said, sorry for the image quality. The marks in this picture seem to have faded, I'm not sure if this was due to the quality of my camera, or if they were genuinely fading at this point in time. However, despite the fact that they seem to have disappeared almost as quickly as they appeared, remember that at one point the marks had been so clear that a friend thought I had been cutting myself.
SpaceCadet
Apr 2 2008, 03:58 PM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 2 2008, 11:40 AM)

Alright, I took one on my camera last night, let me upload it to Photobucket and then onto here. I apologise in advance for the image quality, I really need a better camera. I'll edit this post when the picture is ready.
EDIT:

Like I said, sorry for the image quality. The marks in this picture seem to have faded, I'm not sure if this was due to the quality of my camera, or if they were genuinely fading at this point in time. However, despite the fact that they seem to have disappeared almost as quickly as they appeared, remember that at one point the marks had been so clear that a friend thought I had been cutting myself.
Hmmm, now don't take this the wrong way (if there is a wrong way

) but obviously I'm trying to see this from different perspectives etc.
Does this really look like cuts/scratches?
Or a red biro?
Now I'm bringing this up, and don't feel I am accusing you of lying or anything, because I am not, but it just looks strange..
It definitely looks more like scratches then cuts..
They were never bleeding or sore?
peace
LadyHay
Apr 2 2008, 04:40 PM
Ok, I had to Google red biro. couldn't you have just said "red pen"?
I wanted to ask if this was only on one wrist. If so, which wrist and are you left handed or right?
I have seen this on witnesses before. Not positioned as on your wrists, but odd scrapes that look deep at first glance, but are barely there later in the day and then healing extremely rapidly. A current witness actually felt it and looked down to see these scrapes form on the outside of her bare arm while doing nothing really. She wasn't brushing up against anything. As I recall, she was standing in the middle of a room. This is a common occurrence to this witness. Their baby also was scratched in the form of a K on his leg, which is the first initial of his name. This also healed to almost nothing by the time I was able to see it that afternoon.
This rapid healing has also been reported to me by a witness who was seemingly burned on the inside of her arm by a cold stove. And another witness who was again seemingly burned on the back of her leg while sitting on her bed. (yes, she looked for the obvious like a curling iron and she did not smoke). These marks healed rapidly, as in a few days.
SpaceCadet
Apr 2 2008, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (LadyHay @ Apr 2 2008, 04:40 PM)

Ok, I had to Google red biro. couldn't you have just said "red pen"?

Well, red pen could mean felt tip, marker pen or anything..
Red biro, would produce thin red lines like in the picture, and obviously you could press lightly, therefore they'd be faint lines..like in the picture..
LadyHay
Apr 2 2008, 06:08 PM
QUOTE (SpaceCadet @ Apr 2 2008, 09:55 AM)

Well, red pen could mean felt tip, marker pen or anything..
Red biro, would produce thin red lines like in the picture, and obviously you could press lightly, therefore they'd be faint lines..like in the picture..

Then it would be a BiC pen! hahaha Sorry, I'm Canadian.
SpaceCadet
Apr 2 2008, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (LadyHay @ Apr 2 2008, 06:08 PM)

Then it would be a BiC pen! hahaha Sorry, I'm Canadian.
Yeah, BiC is the name of the popular biro pen's used in UK too..
gabolai
Apr 2 2008, 06:30 PM
I truelly don't know. .
I can't imagine what would cause it without you noticing . Are they gone yet?
fadinginnocence
Apr 2 2008, 07:47 PM
it kind of looks like you might have rubbed your arm against a thorn bush of mybe scraped it againd a stucco wall any possiblity of something like that?
JJsDietFitness
Apr 2 2008, 07:51 PM
Have you been out side the last 7 or so days? If you walked in a wooded area you can get scratched up by weeds and low limbs and not even notice. Last month I was climbing trees and cutting limbs down with my chain saw. When I was finished and had my shirt off in the house my wife noticed my arms were all scratched up. I didn't even feel getting scratched when it happened...
Sometimes you can get scratched when you help someone move, or when you're in a crowded room. I get cut and scratched all the time when I'm in the gym...
Hope that helped!
JJ
Tom2943
Apr 2 2008, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (LadyHay @ Apr 2 2008, 05:40 PM)

Ok, I had to Google red biro. couldn't you have just said "red pen"?
I wanted to ask if this was only on one wrist. If so, which wrist and are you left handed or right?
I have seen this on witnesses before. Not positioned as on your wrists, but odd scrapes that look deep at first glance, but are barely there later in the day and then healing extremely rapidly. A current witness actually felt it and looked down to see these scrapes form on the outside of her bare arm while doing nothing really. She wasn't brushing up against anything. As I recall, she was standing in the middle of a room. This is a common occurrence to this witness. Their baby also was scratched in the form of a K on his leg, which is the first initial of his name. This also healed to almost nothing by the time I was able to see it that afternoon.
This rapid healing has also been reported to me by a witness who was seemingly burned on the inside of her arm by a cold stove. And another witness who was again seemingly burned on the back of her leg while sitting on her bed. (yes, she looked for the obvious like a curling iron and she did not smoke). These marks healed rapidly, as in a few days.
That's exactly what happened with these marks, they've faded almost completely over the past few hours. To answer two earlier questions - it was my right wrist, and no, there was no bleeding around the area of the marks.
SpaceCadet, I realise there is no way to prove this, but I promise you I'm not the type of person to do something like that for attention. I would have noticed if anyone had drawn on my wrist, as well. I know I've made a big deal out of this, which led you to believe I'd faked it. However, it was just the location of the scratches, and the fact that I couldn't explain where they had come from, that bothered me, so naturally you guys were the first person I'd come to. As the marks are gone, there's nothing more I can do or say, so thank you all for your help and I'm sorry for wasting your time.
SpaceCadet
Apr 2 2008, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 2 2008, 09:53 PM)

That's exactly what happened with these marks, they've faded almost completely over the past few hours. To answer two earlier questions - it was my right wrist, and no, there was no bleeding around the area of the marks.
SpaceCadet, I realise there is no way to prove this, but I promise you I'm not the type of person to do something like that for attention. I would have noticed if anyone had drawn on my wrist, as well. I know I've made a big deal out of this, which led you to believe I'd faked it. However, it was just the location of the scratches, and the fact that I couldn't explain where they had come from, that bothered me, so naturally you guys were the first person I'd come to. As the marks are gone, there's nothing more I can do or say, so thank you all for your help and I'm sorry for wasting your time.
Yeah, thats absolutely fine, I can take your word for it, however, you must realise, across the internet, behind a computer screen, anyone can say anything...
Unless I knew you, I can't really make a final decision about it.
But I'll take your word for it.
We don't think you faked it, we just want to know more about it.
And dude, don't say that, you didn't waste our time, no way, you came to the right place and you gave us a topic..we're not the ones to say don't post here or anything like that. We want to hear this strange stuff people have experienced, or this forum would soon be boring. I have experienced a few strange things in the years I've grown up, and I realise too that many people would just dismiss it straight away, and that no one but me can truely know what happened..
Keep on posting here
Camozotz
Apr 2 2008, 11:19 PM
It doesnt look that bad. Looks like you couldve scratched yourself, or done something without realizing. Art class maybe? I not exactly sure what it could be though.
Heartagram3200
Apr 3 2008, 01:06 AM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 2 2008, 06:40 AM)

Alright, I took one on my camera last night, let me upload it to Photobucket and then onto here. I apologise in advance for the image quality, I really need a better camera. I'll edit this post when the picture is ready.
EDIT:

Like I said, sorry for the image quality. The marks in this picture seem to have faded, I'm not sure if this was due to the quality of my camera, or if they were genuinely fading at this point in time. However, despite the fact that they seem to have disappeared almost as quickly as they appeared, remember that at one point the marks had been so clear that a friend thought I had been cutting myself.
Wow...Have you been usin a Oujia(I have no clue how to spell it)board, or something related recently...I know that on rare occasions, polterguist, and spirits apparently harm people...Like, I saw this thing on discovery channels "A Haunting' shows, where they do re-inactments of polterguist...And, in this one, this kid was bein attacked by some sort of demon, afetr using dowsing rods(His mom investigated paranormal) And, one day, he woke up, with a cut on his leg, of a star...It was on his thigh, and it was a perfect star...Like, your cuts seem to be almost perfectly symetrical...They look almost erey...
LadyHay
Apr 3 2008, 01:49 AM
He said he hadn't any paranormal events to report, I believe.
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Apr 3 2008, 02:39 AM
Hi Tom,
Run your nails lightly along the inside of your arms to see if similar welts come up. Looks similar to an allergic reaction my little guy had after a course of antibiotics when he was a baby. The allergy/ asthma specialist called it dermography, Greek for skin writing. I am not referring to the supposed psychic phenomenon of skin writing, but to an actual allergic reaction. In my son's case it lasted about 5-6 months
You might want to make an appointment with your family doc and have him give you the once over.
LadyHay
Apr 3 2008, 02:57 AM
QUOTE (Daughter of the Nine Moons @ Apr 2 2008, 07:39 PM)

Hi Tom,
Run your nails lightly along the inside of your arms to see if similar welts come up. Looks similar to an allergic reaction my little guy had after a course of antibiotics when he was a baby. The allergy/ asthma specialist called it dermography, Greek for skin writing. I am not referring to the supposed psychic phenomenon of skin writing, but to an actual allergic reaction. In my son's case it lasted about 5-6 months
You might want to make an appointment with your family doc and have him give you the once over.
Did the reaction happen as a result of nails or other running along the skin while or after being exposed to the allergen? Or did the allergen itself cause the raised lines? I agree, make an appointment. Wouldn't hurt to have a once over.
Also, to the OP has it happened since?
Edited to clarify
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Apr 3 2008, 03:26 AM
Hi LadyHay,
My little guy had a serum sickness like reaction to an antibiotic prescribed to treat pneumonia. This started weeks after we finished the meds so I did not initially make the connection. I actually thought he was having an allergic reaction to certain foods so I had my family doctor book him with a specialist to get him tested. The test came back clear for food allergies. The doctor, to prove the dermography, did a similar "scratch test" on the inside of his arm with a pointy steel thing and the welt came up instantly. I have to emphasize that the doctor used very little pressure when he "scratched' my son. Prior to seeing that I thought Joey had very delicate skin skin that got irritated easily. The reactions lasted about 5-6 months and have never reoccurred.
LadyHay
Apr 3 2008, 06:19 AM
QUOTE (Daughter of the Nine Moons @ Apr 2 2008, 08:26 PM)

Hi LadyHay,
My little guy had a serum sickness like reaction to an antibiotic prescribed to treat pneumonia. This started weeks after we finished the meds so I did not initially make the connection. I actually thought he was having an allergic reaction to certain foods so I had my family doctor book him with a specialist to get him tested. The test came back clear for food allergies. The doctor, to prove the dermography, did a similar "scratch test" on the inside of his arm with a pointy steel thing and the welt came up instantly. I have to emphasize that the doctor used very little pressure when he "scratched' my son. Prior to seeing that I thought Joey had very delicate skin skin that got irritated easily. The reactions lasted about 5-6 months and have never reoccurred.
Ah, so the scratches were part of the test. And the reaction was welting. Gotcha, thanks.
Orcseeker
Apr 3 2008, 11:21 AM
QUOTE (Daughter of the Nine Moons @ Apr 3 2008, 01:26 PM)

Hi LadyHay,
My little guy had a serum sickness like reaction to an antibiotic prescribed to treat pneumonia. This started weeks after we finished the meds so I did not initially make the connection. I actually thought he was having an allergic reaction to certain foods so I had my family doctor book him with a specialist to get him tested. The test came back clear for food allergies. The doctor, to prove the dermography, did a similar "scratch test" on the inside of his arm with a pointy steel thing and the welt came up instantly. I have to emphasize that the doctor used very little pressure when he "scratched' my son. Prior to seeing that I thought Joey had very delicate skin skin that got irritated easily. The reactions lasted about 5-6 months and have never reoccurred.
This is probably the cause of this one.
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Apr 3 2008, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (LadyHay @ Apr 3 2008, 02:19 AM)

Ah, so the scratches were part of the test. And the reaction was welting. Gotcha, thanks.
Sort of. The doctor did not use an allergen when he did the test on the inside of the arm, just lightly scratched him with a sterile object [pointy steel thing]. The welts would appear when anything abraded his skin and fade pretty fast too. That was part of the reaction that he was having.
This is not to say that this is what is occuring with Tom, just an observation that it wouldn't hurt to see his family doc.
Tom2943
Apr 3 2008, 02:46 PM
I tried running my nails over my arm, and faint marks do appear - these fade in a matter of seconds, though. I'd feel stupid going to see a doctor now, as all evidence has vanished - if the scratches reappear, I'll go straight away. And no, Heartagram, luckily I haven't used an Ouija board - if I had, I'd be absolutely terrified right now.
LadyHay
Apr 4 2008, 02:35 AM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 3 2008, 07:46 AM)

I tried running my nails over my arm, and faint marks do appear - these fade in a matter of seconds, though. I'd feel stupid going to see a doctor now, as all evidence has vanished - if the scratches reappear, I'll go straight away. And no, Heartagram, luckily I haven't used an Ouija board - if I had, I'd be absolutely terrified right now.
Glad you're not. No reason to be Just take notes of things without forming conclusions just yet.
LadyHay
Apr 4 2008, 02:38 AM
QUOTE (Daughter of the Nine Moons @ Apr 3 2008, 05:54 AM)

This is not to say that this is what is occuring with Tom, just an observation that it wouldn't hurt to see his family doc.
Oh absolutely, I knew you weren't saying that. And of course, if we can rule out medical causes, it might get us close to an answer and/or can help keep us healthy and safe.
Penguin888
Apr 4 2008, 02:52 AM
Random thought, but;;
Do you have a cat? Or a brush that you keep on your headboard or nightstand?
You could have hit the brush or the cat hit you in your sleep and you not notice this.
I've been awaken before, get ready for school and none-such, then have people ask what happened to my arm/eye/face/neck, ect.
I didn't feel anything, but after looking in a mirror or looking at it, I could see the scratches from these incidents
And they also seem to fade away after a day or so.
Undeadskeptic
Apr 4 2008, 05:30 AM
Looks like biro dude.
Heartagram3200
Apr 4 2008, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 3 2008, 10:46 AM)

I tried running my nails over my arm, and faint marks do appear - these fade in a matter of seconds, though. I'd feel stupid going to see a doctor now, as all evidence has vanished - if the scratches reappear, I'll go straight away. And no, Heartagram, luckily I haven't used an Ouija board - if I had, I'd be absolutely terrified right now.
Ok...JUs was checking...=D
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Apr 4 2008, 11:44 PM
I have deleted a number of posts. I would like to remind everyone that Tom does not know the origin of his scratches. This is not a topic about self harming, so let's keep to the topic on hand.
SpaceCadet
Apr 5 2008, 09:43 PM
Nooo, my post.
Ah well, hope you find out whatever it is..
Matt121
Apr 5 2008, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 1 2008, 08:19 AM)

Hi guys,
Just something I noticed today, I tried to ignore it at first but I can't think of a logical explanation for it. Remember that I've never reported any personal experience which I have considered paranormal to you, so it's not as though I have a habit of making random claims.
Earlier on today, a friend of mine pointed out several marks on my wrist, so noticable she assumed I had at some point attempted self-harming. There are seven cuts across my right wrist, directly over my vein - there's about half a centimetre between each. I shrugged off her concern - but these cuts almost resemble scars, they don't look fresh and furthermore. They sure as hell weren't on my wrist last night.
Any theories? I'll be back on in about an hour.
Thanks
you're possessed by a ghost of somone that was emo in their past life
SpaceCadet
Apr 6 2008, 09:39 PM
QUOTE (Matt121 @ Apr 6 2008, 12:29 AM)

you're possessed by a ghost of somone that was emo in their past life
Yeah, pointless joke

..and the moderator
did say not to talk about self harm because the original poster did state he wasn't lying..
peace dude.
Undeadskeptic
Apr 9 2008, 09:40 AM
Awwww... my post.
SpaceCadet
Apr 9 2008, 10:14 PM
QUOTE (Undeadskeptic @ Apr 9 2008, 09:40 AM)

Awwww... my post.
Yeh, sucks eh
What does freedom of speech mean again?
LadyHay
Apr 9 2008, 11:21 PM
QUOTE (SpaceCadet @ Apr 9 2008, 03:14 PM)

Yeh, sucks eh
What does freedom of speech mean again?
Aw come on you guys. Sometimes things just aren't appropriate. You know that. Like you don't fart at funerals, yanno? I have to tell my eldest son stuff like that all the time.
Daughter of the Nine Moons
Apr 9 2008, 11:26 PM
SpaceCadet,
The OP is is asking advice on scratches of which he does not know the origin of. This is not a topic about self harm, if it were it would have been deleted immediately as UM does not have qualified people on staff to address serious psychological issues. And as we have visitors of all ages visiting the forums, it would be unethical of us to leave comments on how to inflict harm upon yourself. If you wish to further discuss this please feel free to pm me and lets get this thread back on topic.
Regards,
Dot
SpaceCadet
Apr 10 2008, 08:17 PM
QUOTE (Daughter of the Nine Moons @ Apr 9 2008, 11:26 PM)

SpaceCadet,
The OP is is asking advice on scratches of which he does not know the origin of. This is not a topic about self harm, if it were it would have been deleted immediately as UM does not have qualified people on staff to address serious psychological issues. And as we have visitors of all ages visiting the forums, it would be unethical of us to leave comments on how to inflict harm upon yourself. If you wish to further discuss this please feel free to pm me and lets get this thread back on topic.
Regards,
Dot
Yeah, ok, apologies to everyone then, I see where you're coming from, and I was merely giving my opinion/different view on the subject. However, I didn't realise this:
QUOTE
if it were it would have been deleted immediately as UM does not have qualified people on staff to address serious psychological issues.
so, sorry about all this.
Lets get the topic back on track
Rosewin
Apr 10 2008, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (Tom2943 @ Apr 1 2008, 10:19 AM)

Hi guys,
Just something I noticed today, I tried to ignore it at first but I can't think of a logical explanation for it. Remember that I've never reported any personal experience which I have considered paranormal to you, so it's not as though I have a habit of making random claims.
Earlier on today, a friend of mine pointed out several marks on my wrist, so noticable she assumed I had at some point attempted self-harming. There are seven cuts across my right wrist, directly over my vein - there's about half a centimetre between each. I shrugged off her concern - but these cuts almost resemble scars, they don't look fresh and furthermore. They sure as hell weren't on my wrist last night.
Any theories? I'll be back on in about an hour.
Thanks
You are possessed by an emo demon hahaha.
/wrist
apparitionpsychic
Apr 11 2008, 07:54 PM
Looks like scratching while asleep and nothing more.
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