I was sort of taken aback by that as well. I truly never heard of good demons, but have heard of angels, which are pure as the driven snow. Correct, they can be whoever they want to be, and act just like they think you want them to act, but the facade is short lived IMO..They are known for their trickery and disguises, and thats something I must always remember too..JN

There are thoes who chose the light and thoes who chose the dark, and there are thoes who are inbetween, inbetweeners balance the light and the dark forces, lightworkers work with only the force of good and satanist perfer to work with the forces of evil. Unless you are a fantasy gamer, or writer or into comic books, you'll probley never get what I just said.

Define short-lived for me will ya. The Demons that work with me have never deviated, their only desire is power over others, something that I also seek, it may be true, I may very be a living embodiment of the very beings I work with. What fun.TO say NONE are good is folly, for was it not said in the modern Christian bible that angels turned against god and were sent, basically to join your evil demons?

DemonWatcher, with all due respect, I would like to ask you a question. Can you speak out loud the name of Jesus? I am not trying to be snide or anything, I am just honestly curious. Thank you, GIN

WHy yes i can, he was after all an honest man doing what God wanted him to do.

DemonWatcher the last line of your post just cracked me up..... I'll leave you to this battle, and if you scroll back a notch , you'll find that I had went up to bat for ya, but I don't think they understood, then again I did state it in gaming, fantasy fiction writing and comic book term. Have a great night Demon Watcher....

I am more concerned about anyone thinking they can divine what a species is thinking, or like. You hear of racism? Labeling an entire race as 'bad' is considered morally incorrect, and time and time again throughout the history of humanity, it has shaken humanity to it's core. Well, why can't the same apply to other species? Logically speaking, why does one species get labeled, stereotyped as something 'bad' (demons) and another species, gets labeled, stereotyped something 'good' (angels)?

I get bothered when I find someone taking the "liberty" to talk for a culture, a race. I get disturbed when I find someone doing the same thing for an entire species. And I find that it happens, time, and time, and time again with anything that exists in a non-corporal state. Instead of people simply *allowing* something to exist, they have to subject it to their perception, their concepts of "good" and "evil" and pretty soon they're left with a twisted image, that pales in comparison to reality.

Of all the species I've encountered, I have read about, I have researched, there is only one species I have encountered, thus far, that is exceedingly judgmental, and put their own self worth above everything else in existence. And that is the same species that causes a majority of the problems on this planet. (Humanity for those lagging behind. )

I am not saying that "demons" are "good", nor "bad." And I am not discrediting anyones "experiences." All I am saying is, "Perception is Key." If someone has the wrong perception, their concept of the truth is flawed, their foresight is not as accurate as it can be, what they see and hear can be biased.

I keep an open mind to all things, but I do not get swept up in the emotions. If I truly had an encounter with the 'demonic' I would incorporate it into my understanding, into my logic. But I have not. I have come across many cases of misconstrued identities.

-Akaebeel

.... Oh my next it will be the cruifix, and holy water....

Thanks Akaebeel, you truly are a superhero, who has swooped in to save the day....

No Electra! I was gonna ask YOU about that! lol

I dont find anything to do with being a Christain, and practicing what I learned "funny." We didnt laugh at that poster, we were trying to understand him and the demons inside him. In our world we would call that possession. You are Wiccan, and that is just fine, but please don't sneer or ridicule the Catholic Religion. Thank you..JN

Oh God here we go...

Well lets see, I bare Wiccan blood, interlaced with native, but yet I wear a cross around my neck, I have a bible in every room of my house, and an altar dedicated to angels. And like everyone else I eat, breath, pee and sin, I believe everything we do , we do with reasion and that everyone has a good side and a dark side, the key is to balance your dark side and the good side, I feel that some people lack respect for other peoples beliefs, opinions and do not accept who people truly are or their choices, and although these people claim to be helping, they are really doing nothing but trying to convert others over or into something they do not wish to be.

This is true. I asked a simple and honest question. I wanted to know, and I got an answer. I could make funny wiccan snide remarks, but I didn't and don't. While I am a Protestant and not a Catholic, I still agree with JN. I am quite serious when it comes to the subject of the OP. And your comic book, gaming reference did not escape my notice. I am talking about real life, not fantasy things. Thank you. GIN

That's the problem no sense of ha, ha,... did you know that laughter is the best medicine for your soul? I guess that why readers digest says laughter is the best medicine and ummm, I see alot of religious jokes.... A cross is only a symbol and holy water just tap water blessed... And I'm pretty sure God will forgive me for laughing, I'm sure he can take a joke....

Well said GIN..

Of course God can take a joke.....after all he created us........supposedly lol :>

Just some people have a dull sense of humor and take things too seriously...

I for one, have an excellent sense of humor, however, some things are to be taken very seriously.

Riiggght.....whatever makes you sleep at night

Same here. I love a good laugh, just not at that expense..This is a serious subject, and the most important part of my life..Take care GIN..((HUGS)) JN

The most important part of your life is a message board? Please tell me that is not true....because after all, what was said is just words said by someone who doesn't matter...right?

Maybe it is my gift for selective reading/listening.....why worry about it, just words.

NOO Silly, I meant the entire subject and faith in God..

I know what you meant

Was trying to fling one past ya

LOL Many have tried, and all have failed..LOL...

LOL! Sweet! ((((JN)))))

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH!

(oops. did I say that out loud?)

what I was taught is that your soul or eternal spirit are made out of the same material that a demon is and therefore it can enter you and take over that spirit part of us to be able to control the phyiscal body. but i guess no one knows for sure. I have heard you also have to be willing to allow it to enter. otherwise Satan would just allow his demons to enter everyone and run us all off a cliff somewhere. who knows?

Possession reputedly has four stages:
1) There is temptation and invitation, which can be at the subconscious level. (or dabbling)
2) The next two stages are typical poltergeist activity. Infestation is when objects around the victim are affected and move about.
3) Next is obsession, when the victim's body is affected.
4) The final stage is possession when the demon takes control.

A friendly word of warning concerning taking an interest in the man downstairs.

The Catholic church have performed numerous exorcisms over the years & have come to recognise a pattern, which if unchecked, can eventally lead to madness at best, possession at worst.

Ok that was the funniest post I've seen in a VERYYYYYYYYYY long time. Kudos on the map. Jody

You said everything. You had your house exorcised twice. If exorcisms worked, just once would be enough. And who warranties they won't come back. I'd say they will come back, because they are still evil and are just looking for an opportunity to bore you again.

And I'm not saying to expel them, or to fight against them. I'm just saying to pray for them, expressing your forgiveness for all the evil they intended to do against you, desiring all the good you can for these spirits. With some persistence, believe me, these spirits (demons) will emend, and then the haunting will be over forever.

In Brazil this is always made in at least more than 10000 places, because here Spiritism has a power of a religion, with at least 3 million direct followers and more the 40 million sympathizers (I mean people who belong to other religions but frequent spiritists groups, in a kind of syncretism). All of these places have disobsession groups, who call these evil spirits (or demons, as you prefer) and moralize them. Never was related an accident, and normally the spirits emend their ways. I'm not talking about something it was never done and maybe, because of this, the haunting cases are too rare by here. I had never heard about an exorcism by here and I got surprised when I found out it was made abroad, because I thought this was a thing from the old times.

I continue repeating. Moralizing these "demons" is the only correct way, and certainly is what God wants you to do. And when I say moralize, you don't need to evoke them. Just pray for them, giving them, by thoughts, some good advices, asking God that he could be assisted, etc... God will help you, believe me, and the "demons" will be touched in their hearts, because they have ones.

You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes sun rise on the evil and on the good, and send rain on the just and on the unjust. (Jesus in Matthew 5:43-45)

That’s my opinion and you guys behave as you find better. I wish you are right.

Best Regards.

Riggght....Mods do it all the time....but still quite humorous yessssss

IMO, I think that people who get freaked out over Harry Potter are being Hysterical for no reason. Its totally irrational thinking, everyone has jumped on this “Harry Potter is bad bandwagon” when there are much worse things parents are exposing their children to on a daily basis. Im more afraid of all the medications docs and teachers are so easy to push down our childrens throats these days. I am a Christian, but I am smart enough and strong enough in my faith to know its just ENTERTAINMENT. IT’S not REAL.

Children CAN’T fly around on brooms, and kill giant trolls and 3 headed dogs with magic spells. I don’t think demons and the Devil are waiting around for the next release of Harry Potter Movies and Books to make their move on which person they are going to “posses.”

I never hear people flipping out over the Wizard of OZ, where there are Witches, Wizards, Flying Evil Monkeys, and death. The word “Kill” in this movie is said several times and it’s a child movie/book. People take it for what it is Entertainment, and make believe, most people have the brains and Common sense to know this, so why Harry Potter and not the million other movies that come out that are similar? Its so hypocritical.

I don’t think watching a simple movie is going to open you or your child up for a demonic possession. If that’s the case Disney would have some Major Law suits on its hands.

Disney actually has a lot of movies out there that have innuendos including racism, sexual references...etc. Imagine if someones child was able to read between the lines with some of the lines in disney movies....law suits galore.

LOL I cant read maps, can you spell it out for me?

It really depends on who is exposed to the material. I know that my cousin (he's kind of a nut) really got into the occult a little after the Harry Potter craze began.

It's ok, most women can't....lmfao jk jk jk...no really

Not necessarily. I once saw an interview with an experienced Roman Catholic exorcist who related the following illustration from the history of his own church:

Several centuries back, I believe during the 17th Century, a priest who had been possessed for many years died raving blasphemies in bed. (And, no, that doesn't interfere with that priest's own salvation.)

Immediately after the death the same blasphemies erupted from the lips of the younger priest who'd been faithfully kneeling in prayer alongside the deathbed.

Love the map Akaebeel, but way to easy for my complicated brain to read, have you got one that is harder......LOL
I hate to be the one to flip the coin, but I'm going to do so, by adding a bit of logic to the subject. Demon possession is merely based on a person's belief system, but in the psychology realm it is known as Tourette syndrome, and psychologist can understand how it mirrors the ancient belief in demons, but thoes who bare this very serious condition need professional medical treatment.

You are 100% right about that. If I had kids I would be a little hesitant to let him/her watch some Disney movies.

Exactly you are very right about that !!!!


I know there are some people who do not live in reality, that’s why I said most people who have Common sense know it’s not real and you can’t live your life like Harry Potter.

The people who are a little off anyways watch a movie like this..They may dabble in "spells" they read out of a book, but its still make believe. If it wasn’t Harry Potter it would have been some other movie or book they would grab from.

I just refuse to believe you are opening yourself up to being passed because you watch Harry Potter.

I have kids, and they have seen nearly all the disney movies, younger kids don't notice subliminal messages, like us adults do, simply because their attention span has not reached it's peak, what we notice, they do not, I feel the messages are planted there more for the adults than the kids. And when they reach their teens, their movie preferences change and they are no longer interested in the things they watched when they were younger, I'd be more weary of certain video games and some forms of music than I would be of a disney film.

LOL Dont make me come over there!!!

I wonder why they do that?

I have noticed that on lots of "kids" movies. There is tons of sexual innuendo, and subliminal messages. I know when I watched the Lion King with my nephew, I did not like the part where Scar (I think that’s his name) Murdered Simbas father, then was trying to kill Simba. I didn’t like my nephew seeing that, He was 5 and I thought it was way too much for a kids movie.

But I still would rather my kid’s watch a Disney movie over Flavor of Love or The Bad Girls Cub any day. LOL

WOW So I guess possibly the Demonic left the Exorcists body and entered the young priests? Interesting, thanks..JN

Exactly Arcana, good post!!

I agree, and lets not forget some of the video games out there for kids. Some are evil, and extremely violent. We cant blame the kids, its up to the parents to monitor what a child is watching and reading IMO...JN

Actually, give kids more credit than that. Kids are pretty receptive and they are subliminal messages for a reason. They probably just don't grasp the innuendo or see how its implied to use it in a later reference. I know my school banned certain disney movies for grades k-6 due to certain references. Kids are getting smarter these days...they aren't a sack of potatoes, depending on their parents, kids can be quite brilliant even at a very young age.

Very true! However, there seems to be certain kids, and we've seen them on here who become obsessed with death, evil and Demons. Now where do they get this fear and why? Granted, many are smart and brilliant children. From what I have read here, seems these kids are a bit lonely and latch onto something negative, and dont speak to their parents about it, so go on the Internet and try to get help, which to me is very sad..JN

Everything these days has ratings. Parents should actually pay more attention to what their children are watching, or not watching for that matter.

Wrestling is a big factor for a lot of kids growing up. Out on the playground, afterschool, or even during school kids act out what they see on WWE. I believe it was in Florida where a kid did a move on his friend and either killed him or broke his neck. The kid is now serving some time.

Something parents may think is harmless, could always end up much much worse.