Hay, I just got some info about what may happen if the bee's die out that we only have four years to live. Currently our population of bee's in the US is droping drastically. I am hoping that any of you may have more info or can find out more info about this topic, I would like to learn more here. Also the reason why the bee's are dieing is because of us genetically engineering our crops and the bee's arn't getting enough or the right enzymes they need to survive, or/and our engineering with cell-phones and other wireless technologies like that.

As soon as I find out more info myself, I will post more. But in the mean time I hope all of you can find and report here all the info you find. PLZ, an thanks.

Yes, I've heard that the bees are over-stressed making them weak in fighting a common virus. I've also read the bees are leaving their hives and are no where to be found. Some believe that cell phones, and their towers, are stressing them or disrupting the way they communicate (harmonics). I've read where the earth's natural frequency has been increasing dramatically in recent years. Some believe that HAARP may have something to do with it. A lot of theories. Any other theories? Any of the above theories viable?

Here's an interesting article on the bee problem. However, I'm a bit confused as to how this is a conspiracy of some type?

Bee's die off, we have four years to live, four plus 2008 equals 2012. You know, just another way the world will end in 2012 that all... sorry I didn't mention it, but I wanted to be sure. So look at our bee population until December passes, once it does, if our bee population is still the same, were safe from this.

Well, I found out this site http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mvanishingbees.htm, so far it's just the honey bee's. About 30% of the pollination requirements, which in my opinion will cause a/the chain reaction to our doom. Plant's will die, animals will die, our food source gone. And SoCraze your right about HAARP, that and there are a couple more reasons why too, pesticides and parasites.

You get a lot a mileage out of this. Do you write an anti-HAARP newsletter or something?

--Jaylemurph

Please explain why would have 4 years to live. We can pollenate things ourselves. Food would be more expensive, but I can't think of any reason why we would die.

1) The amount of work it would take, we wouldn't be able to do it for every single plant, thus the plants die off
2) The world undergoes evolution, if we keep everything the same, guess what, it would slow down the process
3) animals and insects require certain types of pollination to survive, cancel that, they die
4) animals that feast on those die
5) we eat animals that eat those
6) were screwed

Basically it creates a chain reaction which screws us all like I said before. This may be just some of the thing that would happen. Just open your mind a little, that's the problem with to many people these days, they keep their mind to closed. I don't mean it as an insult, but it's true.

I wonder if GM crops could have anything to do with it? Doesn't seem like the most likely cause but "its not nice to fool mother nature".

What? There's so much that's just weird about this one sentence. "The world" does not undergo evolution; individuals undergo mutation and natural selection, and eventually a population undergoes evolution. Are you suggesting "we" have the ability to keep everything in the world the same? Why would doing that have any effect on the random mutations that fuel the bioevolutionary process? Does all biological evolution across species proceed at a standard rate than can be slowed or hastened?


The way your argument is constructed (you suggest a chain reaction), this one sentences throw a big monkey wrench in the process...

--Jaylemurph

Really? I mostly eat beef, pork and chicken. Also, if you read the Straight Dope article through, it says that this sort of thing has happened many times before. Here's a particularly excellent quote from the article:

"Sixth, it's never a good idea to trust what the media are telling you."

I said the world as a metaphore for everything that undergoes evolution. I'm not suggesting that we have the ability to stop it, I'm saying we can slow it down. We don't know what may come in evolution, but we can slow its path. We can't hasten it because we don't know the future.

Every living creature needs certain enzymes to live, those enzymes are broken down and used accordingly to what the DNA code has been built for. Without the right enzymes, the creature will likely die, or come close before it can adabt to the new evironment. It's all biology and chemistry.

Have any of you seen "A Sound Of Thunder," thats technically what I'm talking about. But in the movie/story he steps on a butterfly, here were talking about bee's. A chain reaction happened from that, so it will happen with bee's. Maybe everything won't die, but it will come close, and the way evolution is heading the current moment would change to another path.

Yes, GM crops are plant's that we have made to our needs. The bee's arn't geting the enzymes they need for survival. Thus, they are dieing or fleeing to find the right food they need.

Nope! Just a sincere person trying to find truth (if it exists). Started investigating this last fall because I only noticed 2 European bees the whole three months where as I usually see a dozen or so a day. I'm very concious of bees because I'm highly allergic to their stings; therefore, I know a little about them (for my protection of course). Nothing against HAARP, just a possible cause. Do you write the HAARP advocate newsletter or something?

Yes, we could pollinate ourselves; but, it is time consuming and therefore very costly...food prices will skyrocket! Malnutrition would definitely increase and therefore death would naturally follow because the malnourished would be more susceptible to sickness.

Didn't hear of this one...I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

Anyone who thinks that losing bee's would result in our extinction underestimates the human races ability to adapt I think. We are good at surviving. I also believe that we will learn why bee's are dying off. They are important to us, so important that a lot of research is going into preserving them.

I couldn't have said it better!