I think I might have seen a dragon a few months past. It was early one morning around eight o' clock when my dad and I were out taking a walk. We live out near the country, so it is always very peaceful and we like to take the dog out early in the morning. The weather was nice, it was warm but with a slight chill. It was around early autumn. We were walking out on one of the hiking trails in the woods, and we were just talking softly when suddenly my dog started barking. She isn't a barker, but sometimes when she sees another dog she'll bark once or twice. She doesn't bark when she sees a person or when someone comes through the door. We stopped because she was staring out into the woods and my first thought was "a stray dog or other animal was out there". I sort of walked into the trees a little and suddenly I saw this huge shape hurl up ahead. It sort of glinted and momentarily blinded me, before I heard a snapping of lots of twigs and saw it sort of launch itself upward, into flight, I think. It then disappeared, and when I looked up I sort of saw a bat-dragon-ish shape. It was followed by a strange sence of tingling everywhere (not from fear) that remained with me for the rest of the day. I also heard a sort of noise sort of like a mix between a cat hissing and a crow cawing. It sounded sort of strangled, but I didn't hear it perfectly because my dog wouldn't shut up. My dad didn't get as good of a view since he hadn't followed me into the trees, but he was as shocked and scared as I was and we stuck around for a while, looking for footprints or other signs. All we managed to see was a lot of fallen down bushes and some stepped on twigs. The shape seemed to be about as large as a big cat, probably more of tiger-sized. That's all I can think of comparing it to. When I describe it, it sounds really dragon-like but when I first saw it I didn't think "dragon". I posted this on another section (sightings section) but someone suggested to try it over here.

How big is your dog? It could have been a large bird of prey swooping after it.

Thanks for the post, Otter. I agree that large bird of prey is the most likely explanation (they actually do hiss, and can seem quite lage with their wings). Still, we don't know for sure, and can always keep our hope and wonder alive.

well it is possible that what you saw is a large bird of prey however if you could give me the sound and maybe a better description i think i might be able to help you out there

It sounded like something was strangling it. Think of a cat hissing, and then think of a strangling cat hissing. Maybe even a mix of a crow in there. Pretty cool, actually.

Your welcome, Arch. Nice to hear from you.

And my dog is a golden retriever, so she's pretty big. Large/medium sized dog.

It could have been a golden eagle. They can have a wingspan of around 3 feet in length and hisses when it feels threatened. They live all throughout the United States throughout the winter/autumn months. So, you could have just run into one of these birds.
Here's what the eagle sounds like btw so you can compare: http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/anim...lden-eagle.html

I agree probably if not a golden eagle then some other large bird of prey.Where do you live?

well atleast people are giving explanations that make sense as opposed to some real weird ones I've heard of before

Like what???
And of course we need to look at real world examples first. That's how good debunkers go about their debunking.

I understand perfectly well, but there have been some "logical" explanations for cryptids and strange things which were even more ridiculous then the cryptid itself. for example one explanation for nessie is that it was an elephant that escaped from a zoo, another on the sightings forum a guy believed he saw a werewolf and then some guy tryis to tell him all he saw was a big hairy guy on a motorcycle

Oh wow....Yeah, cuz elephants totally have legs that are 700 feet long...Those are QUITE rediculous claims, I agree.

Elephant???wow...i can just imagine it now...all over the news..."Yesterday it was discovered that the famous Loch Mess Monster is in fact an African Elephant,escaped from a local zoo.It was apparently swimming around in the depths of the lake,surfacing occasionally for air.In other news,a cow recently broke the world record for moon-jumping..."

still no dragons roar however it is possible that you did see something, i dont know what but im interseted, i'll have to look into it....

o and btw 100th post yays!!

Jesus christ where have all these dragon people come from all of a sudden

It was a partridge.

Or possibly a wood pidgeon.

Meow Purr.

well were have you been all this time all of these dragon people have been here since i joined at least if not longer

these topics don't half Drag On.

Meow Purr.

At least a week then. !!!!!

well... true i havent been here long but still most of these have been hanging around for a while its sorta not hard to see them

Yes but you posted most of them.

LMAO>

I still reckon it was a Wood Pidgeon

Meow Purr.

Especially as there is no zoo in Iverness or local area.

At least that is one thing we agree on, "Nessie is not an elephant".

true but then again im obsessed with the creature for they are facinating are they not?



agreed

ahem...back on topic please.

My first thought was same as ships-cat; a partridge.

Meh, I never found dragon stories all that interesting in the first place, let alone dozens of dragon topics in one week.

I listened to the Golden Eagle sound, and it didn't really sound like that. What the Golden Eagle sounded like was more of a "peeping" noise, but I heard more of a hiss. Kind "Hssssskaakikiiisss!" Wait, no, that sounds nothing like what I heard...more of a "Shiiiikaaaisss!" No, that doesn't sound right either.

I live up in New England.

hmmm.... well maybe you did indeed see a dragon, but that also brings to question, y did it not just get rid of you instead of flying off? or perhaps it wasnt a dragon, and it was just a very large bird of prey, or it was a dragon but it simply didnt feel you'd be a threat to it. any1 else have any possible ideas?

Definitely a dragon.

dtas kool if u achally did see 1 ur lukcy dragons r awsome nb it sounds pretty descrpitive

I mean, it still could have been a bird of prey. (Remember, I was scared and my dog was barking, which may have been enough to warp what I had heard.) But it could have been a dragon. It might not have killed me as you mentioned, Dragon Seeker, (if it was a dragon) because I don't think that all dragons kill people who manage to see them. At least if they do, they don't leave any visible claw marks, scorch marks, ect.

Okay stop take a deep breath.

Dragon's are big reptile things yeah? Very big in fact, and they fly? Breath fire, and judging by their teeth are carniverous.

How have we failed to see them? I think we should all be more proud of not having seen them at all than seeing them given their size. Unless they really don't exist hmm, I would imagine they would likely show up on radar as well, well well, head over to the UFO section mystery solved. But could you imagine what a creature like that would do to the food chain?

In all honesty I believe dragons exist as alligators, crocodiles, general lizardy type critters, not to mention Komodo dragon's. The ancient egyptians worshipped dung beatles, so you can see how legends start.

Unfortunately the dragons we know today are ikons, the serpent, portrayed as the devil, st. George and the dragon, again a religious symbol, and well Tolkein has a lot to answer for. My suggestion, stop playing AD&D get outside and play some footy.

Don't be so silly, Grey Area, THEY ARE MAGICAL! That's why we haven't seen them.

But yes, everyone grow a brain, please. Especially the plank up there who can't type. And all those of you incapable of using the edit button or posting multiple quotes in one post.

Thanks.

I agree. There is not any proof that dragons were ever alive. Not bones or fossils found yet. You been watch Ergon way to much.

It was a Wood Pidgeon... with a Jetpack !

disguised as a Dragon.

Meow Purr.

On another note, magpies stand up to and even chase my dog.

S'not uncommon for birds to get a bit too cocky.

This dragon obviously isn't as clever and as good as hiding as the other dragons you claim to be alive (in your other posts...)

Yeah, that was probably it.

i belive in dragons... i used to study them and i know their language, but that is a sifferant story... i belive your story!

How did you learn their language?

well that may vary with the type of dragon you saw, perhaps it simply did not wish to been seen and im glad your ok, the last thing i need is someone who is on my side not there



ok what?



and you know i really hate to agree but yes how did you learn there language and if it is not a public thing you wish to say please PM me and let me know, to say the least you've peaked my interest

LOL, yeah, I'm glad it didn't hurt me either. That would be bad, oh, yes, very bad indeed.

No, don't you be so silly.

Mankind has recorded seing dragons as long as man has been able to record words.

And mankind still does. Only now we think it is 'more scientific' to call our dragons, plesisaurs, nessies, thunderbirds, and pterodactyls. But in all probability, 'dragons' is a better answer, just as it had been in the past. If they are real, they can only elude us because they are sentient beings just as our ancestors said they were.

It has nothing to do with magic. It has everything to do with modern man's arrogance that no other creature can approach him in intelligence, even though our ancestors believed there were creatures greater than man - dragons, in fact. So Nessie or Champ eludes a scientific expedition, so in their arrognance they claim it doesn't exits, and two weeks later it is seen again.

Clearly the concept and image of the dragon still has a powerful presence today, as well. Clearly they still have a powerful presence in the human psyche...

Meow Purr? no no no.. a wood pidgeon with a jetpack disguised as a dragon would sound much more like..

"coooo.. cooo.. WHHHOOOOOSSHHHHH"

Im an expert you see i learnt how to speak "wood pidgeon with jetpack disguised as a dragon" language...

*puts his magical fantasy cape on with matching tin-foil hat*

Actually the escaped from the zoo is essentially a 'chinese whisper'. The correct version is that a circus passed through the area, and the locals saw the elephant bathing in the loch; and from there- "Nessie!" (and even then this is more likely to be a retrospective falsification of the comment that one of the 'famous' nessie photos appears to be a swimming elephant taken in India or Africa)...
Great theory except....
It would only account for Nessie sightings and retellings from that small period of time and that's assuming that-
1. This circus actually existed. So far, I've yet to see anyone actually produce any kind of documentation to prove it; and;
2. The circus deliberatey by-passed every town in the area, and contrary to a travelling circus didn't stop near any towns there either.
3. If they did stop, then those who thought the elephant in the water was Nessie had no contact with either the circus or anyone who'd seen it... And so forth.

Moral of the story is pay no heed to debunkers whose opinions are based on the need to believe, rather than rational, logical thought.

You are absolutly correct DC, magic has nothing to do with dragons exsistance, and mankind has recorded seeing dragons allover the world, infact the word "dragon" has a very powerful impact on people and on that note




yes it does infact in japan theres a place called the "Dragons Triangle" maybe you've heard of it, well local japanese mythology says that the reasons ships dissaper in the triangle is because the dragon lords are angry with them entering. and thats pretty much all that i really know on that subject but im dead shure my information is correct

kay, the way you described this "dragon" admittedly wasn't the most convincing sounding story, but hey... some people don't have a fantastic way with words.
it could have been a bird of prey, yet, it could have been a dragon.

they have exsisted. bones have been found to prove that, even though theres not a lot of them, and theres been a lot of sightings.

according to legend they're extremely intellegent creatures, put that with the stories of them being slain and hunted, and hey presto, you have a possible reason why we don't see them very often.

over years you end up with a world full of people who only know them as fiction and the few that have their doubts. and the dragons are safe. =]

x

i doubt the existance of dragons. but i am a lover of its lore. i even have a collection of its artworks. At my age i still play magic the gathering card game and i have a wide collection of dragon cards from the first one they printed untill the most recent expansion (non so far in lorewyn expansion). its not complete, my collection, but they are awesome.

The reason i doubt their existance is that the body structure could not support flight. and because i have not yet met anyone who could possibly explain or justify how a creature such as a dragon could exist even in a Logical fantasy sens.

but they are magnificent subject of art