goof321
Apr 5 2008, 04:47 AM
Hi! i have been looking for info on learning on how to do telekinesis and although i know were to start, i have a hard time practicing and motivating myself to practice, and i am looking for either someone who can give me tips on how i can start and never stop or someone who can be my mentor and "trainer" becuase i REALLY want to learn this ability,please if anyone can help me i would appreciate it.OH yeah and pplease if you dont believe in these kinda things dont post anything here that talk about wether it exists or not to you,all i need is the otivation to do this, thanks.
Sporkling
Apr 5 2008, 04:54 AM
Well Heartagram3200 should be willing to help you. Give him a PM. And if you need motivation, the best thing is don't start. No use doing something if you don't enjoy it right?
Mahtu
Apr 5 2008, 04:59 AM
Yeah I don't know a ton about telekinesis because I can't use it, but I have studied it a little in theory. If you PM me I'll try to answer anything I can. But definitely talk to Heartagram cuz he knows all the telekinesis stuff you would want to know.
goof321
Apr 5 2008, 05:03 AM
thanx i really enjoy it i just need the motivation for maybe the first few months since its basically meditation and concentration exersises,but i am very much exited to get started its just i would like someone who can give me that push,BTW is he online now???
Sporkling
Apr 5 2008, 05:05 AM
No he is not. You should send him a PM.
the eternal me
Apr 5 2008, 09:11 PM
heart is a student with much to learn as well.
there are a lot of misconceptions about the whole field so to speak.
all of it is tied together. you may start with the intent of learning one thing, but develop somthing else.
learn and explore you first.
Moro
Apr 5 2008, 09:53 PM
We are all made up of energy. So, basically everything is interconnected in one way or another.
I myself, try concentrating on an object gathering a oneness with it, then I just simply ask it to move.
It seems to work quite well, as I managed to bend a relatively thick table spoon.
I hope this helps...
Regards,
Tom
AngelOfMusic
Apr 6 2008, 03:24 PM
I thought you were a skeptic Moro? Or are you being sarcastic? I told you i can't tell the difference!
Angel x
Moro
Apr 6 2008, 04:15 PM
QUOTE (AngelOfMusic @ Apr 6 2008, 11:24 AM)

I thought you were a skeptic Moro? Or are you being sarcastic? I told you i can't tell the difference!
Angel x
You are correct, I am a skeptic. But, I will leave it up to you on whether to believe or not that I bent the spoon by
asking it to.
I am on to something with this forum! I just want to see how it plays out.
AngelOfMusic
Apr 6 2008, 04:38 PM
I do believe you! I'll just leave you to it then...yeah...
Angel x
Heartagram3200
Apr 7 2008, 01:16 AM
Please Moro...Do not give out false information, just to prove a point..Maybe us "psions" cant do the stuff we claim..But, we atleast believe we can, because we have seen results...Maybe soemthin other than our minds are causin the results, but we dont know that...
Blacksabbath
Apr 7 2008, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 7 2008, 03:16 AM)

Please Moro...Do not give out false information, just to prove a point..Maybe us "psions" cant do the stuff we claim..But, we atleast believe we can, because we have seen results...Maybe soemthin other than our minds are causin the results, but we dont know that...
Amusing that coming from you. You were the one that claimed you can move a little piece of paper with your mind, but it was only convection and heat. But you
still believe it was your mind. Is that what you are saying? You also refused to do a covered pin wheel test, making up every excuse in the book. I wouldn't contact you for pshycic powers advice.
eight bits
Apr 7 2008, 10:37 AM
Actually, H's reactions to Tom's ... um, conversion, ...reveals a lot about this kind of "phenomenon."
Read what H says: it is less important to find out what is really going on than to believe that something wonderful may be happening in his life, that he may be someone special.
If the little bit of paper or tinfoil moves, then something happened. As long as the psion cannot figure out why it moved, then it remains possible that the psion is somebody special, and that life has no limits.
What makes the sceptic annoying to the psion, then, is not that sceptics say "you're full of it," or "boo-ya," or even treat the kid as older brothers so often treat bratty little brothers. In fact, tilting with "nasty" k-skeptics is just another one of the many joys of childhood. And Eric can't punch you on the arm the way a real-life big brother might.
Annoyance is to propose active testing and critical thinking about what happened, to find out once and for all why it moves.
"Put a bowl over it," for example. What has the psion to gain from this? If it still moves, then the psion still cannot figure out why it moves, and it remains possible that the psion is somebody special, and that life has no limits. He's got all that already. But if it doesn't move? Ugh, and then you die.
All pain, no gain. No rational grown-up would play such a game, why should psions?
Heartagram3200
Apr 7 2008, 10:54 AM
QUOTE (eight bits @ Apr 7 2008, 06:37 AM)

Actually, H's reactions to Tom's ... um, conversion, ...reveals a lot about this kind of "phenomenon."
Read what H says: it is less important to find out what is really going on than to believe that something wonderful may be happening in his life, that he may be someone special.
If the little bit of paper or tinfoil moves, then something happened. As long as the psion cannot figure out why it moved, then it remains possible that the psion is somebody special, and that life has no limits.
What makes the sceptic annoying to the psion, then, is not that sceptics say "you're full of it," or "boo-ya," or even treat the kid as older brothers so often treat bratty little brothers. In fact, tilting with "nasty" k-skeptics is just another one of the many joys of childhood. And Eric can't punch you on the arm the way a real-life big brother might.
Annoyance is to propose active testing and critical thinking about what happened, to find out once and for all why it moves.
"Put a bowl over it," for example. What has the psion to gain from this? If it still moves, then the psion still cannot figure out why it moves, and it remains possible that the psion is somebody special, and that life has no limits. He's got all that already. But if it doesn't move? Ugh, and then you die.
All pain, no gain. No rational grown-up would play such a game, why should psions?
I didn't have time to finish me post, cause I had to go..I emant to say, that the psions on here, atleast believe they can do this stuff...They dont jus make up claims that they know are lies...And, I do alot of stuff before deciding something is a product of my mind...I dont jus come to conclusion that its me...
Blacksabbath
Apr 7 2008, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (eight bits @ Apr 7 2008, 12:37 PM)

If the little bit of paper or tinfoil moves, then something happened. As long as the psion cannot figure out why it moved, then it remains possible that the psion is somebody special, and that life has no limits.
Somebody special that discovered the joys of science. Me and my gf used to do this in science class.
Annoyance is to propose active testing and critical thinking about what happened, to find out once and for all why it moves.
If this wasn't the case mate, then the world would be a pathetic place. Example: JEFF THAT LEAF JUST MOVED I THINK IT WAS MY SPECIAL PEKILEKTIC POWERS!!!!!!!! I'M SO SPECIAL!! Now, wouldn't you think someone would question that? Want to test and tell this guy it was the wind, not his over active, and wishful thinking imagination?
"Put a bowl over it," for example. What has the psion to gain from this? If it still moves, then the psion still cannot figure out why it moves, and it remains possible that the psion is somebody special, and that life has no limits. He's got all that already. But if it doesn't move? Ugh, and then you die.
He agreed that he would do that on a video, then suddenly changed his mind and came out with excuses. So I assume it he failed to make it move. If it moved, then something could have happened, sure. Nothing super psionic about moving a pin wheel with heat/wind though.
Moro
Apr 7 2008, 12:09 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 6 2008, 09:16 PM)

Please Moro...Do not give out false information, just to prove a point..Maybe us "psions" cant do the stuff we claim..But, we atleast believe we can, because we have seen results...Maybe soemthin other than our minds are causin the results, but we dont know that...
So, now you are going to tell me that I am giving out false information? You have no idea if I am or not.
Just because you are skeptical of my claims does not mean it didn't happen.
I only did this to give you a chance to look at these claims from another point of view, and the first thing
you did was say that I was giving out false information. WOW,

So, I suppose it's okay for you to
come on here and spout off amazing claims as if they are fact.
Anyway, I got the information I wanted out of this little experiment, as it clearly showed me how easy it
is to turn the tables. I will leave it at that.
Regards,
Tom
eight bits
Apr 7 2008, 12:43 PM
QUOTE
And, I do alot of stuff before deciding something is a product of my mind...I dont jus come to conclusion that its me...
Yes, I recall you ran around your room without seeing your pinwheel move. I'm very impressed, by the way. I would have had to look where I was going rather than watch the pinwheel all the time. (Then again, in your videos, the damned thing hardly budged when you were standing over it, breathing on it, under a hot lamp.)
But you didn't put it under a bowl (or didn't tell us about it) because that would have been a test whose outcome might have told you something.
This is not a personal attack on you There used to be a skeptic hereabouts who proposed "tests." And the three of his I read had obvious loopholes, ensuring that any troubling outcome could be explained away, should the need arise. (Although they were fine as "screening tests," just as the bowl was a screen, not a definitive test.)
Science is about doing things that have at least one outcome that could change your world. It is probably not a coincidence, then, that science so often does change the world.
Heartagram3200
Apr 7 2008, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (eight bits @ Apr 7 2008, 08:43 AM)

Yes, I recall you ran around your room without seeing your pinwheel move. I'm very impressed, by the way. I would have had to look where I was going rather than watch the pinwheel all the time. (Then again, in your videos, the damned thing hardly budged when you were standing over it, breathing on it, under a hot lamp.)
But you didn't put it under a bowl (or didn't tell us about it) because that would have been a test whose outcome might have told you something.
This is not a personal attack on you There used to be a skeptic hereabouts who proposed "tests." And the three of his I read had obvious loopholes, ensuring that any troubling outcome could be explained away, should the need arise. (Although they were fine as "screening tests," just as the bowl was a screen, not a definitive test.)
Science is about doing things that have at least one outcome that could change your world. It is probably not a coincidence, then, that science so often does change the world.
Once again, I wore a bandanna over me mouth..I also tried the lamp to, when I wasnt ryin to do Tk..It didnt move unless I made it move...
Blacksabbath
Apr 7 2008, 08:09 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 7 2008, 08:48 PM)

Once again, I wore a bandanna over me mouth..I also tried the lamp to, when I wasnt ryin to do Tk..It didnt move unless I made it move...
I can also recall not seeing mine move at a point unless i went and focussed on it. Also then when cupping my hands around it. Yet I'm not a pshycic
eight bits
Apr 7 2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE
I can also recall not seeing mine move at a point unless i went and focussed on it.
Well, if yours moves as grudgingly as H's, then you would need to be looking at it for a while in order ever to see it move.
QUOTE
Once again, I wore a bandanna over me mouth..
And yet you could breathe. So. What have we learned about the effectiveness of your bandana in preventing the movement of air?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Apr 7 2008, 08:47 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 6 2008, 08:16 PM)

Please Moro...Do not give out false information, just to prove a point..Maybe us "psions" cant do the stuff we claim..But, we atleast believe we can, because we have seen results...Maybe soemthin other than our minds are causin the results, but we dont know that...
So you are talking about false beleif? Whats the point of that?

Thats no different then believing fiction is truth.
Eight bits you made some great posts.You sure you are not a skeptic?lol
Here's a friendly shoulder punch.
Kevin A.
Apr 8 2008, 12:15 AM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 6 2008, 09:16 PM)

Please Moro...Do not give out false information, just to prove a point..Maybe us "psions" cant do the stuff we claim..But, we atleast believe we can, because we have seen results...Maybe soemthin other than our minds are causin the results, but we dont know that...
Hold on there Heart. If Moro made up a fake UM account, posted here for a week or so asking questions about his latent TK ability and then posted exactly what he did you and other would be touting him as the next UM sensation.
You can NOT have it both ways. Just because you know Moro is skeptic does not make what he said false. Actually given the gold standard of cutlery bending I see thrown around, Moro is well within the bounds of what these people claim is some special ability. I am fairly certain this was even on purpose.
If you perhaps can not do this stuff , believe you can do these things in spite of that, have seen results you can not show anyone else and wish to continue this discussion it needs to be moved over to the spirituality and religion forum were belief without a shred of proof is the rule, not the exception.
Kevin A.
Mahtu
Apr 8 2008, 02:11 AM
QUOTE (Blacksabbath @ Apr 7 2008, 03:02 AM)

Amusing that coming from you. You were the one that claimed you can move a little piece of paper with your mind, but it was only convection and heat. But you still believe it was your mind. Is that what you are saying? You also refused to do a covered pin wheel test, making up every excuse in the book. I wouldn't contact you for pshycic powers advice.
Just because he didn't conclusively prove to your satisfaction that it WASN'T convection and heat? That doesn't conclusively prove that it was either. Sure, he didn't cover the wheel with glass, so he couldn't PROVE that he did it. But you weren't standing next to him with measuring equipment either and had nothing to do with the experiment so you have no proof either.
poopr-man
Apr 8 2008, 09:32 AM
QUOTE (Kevin A. @ Apr 8 2008, 12:15 AM)

If you perhaps can not do this stuff , believe you can do these things in spite of that, have seen results you can not show anyone else and wish to continue this discussion it needs to be moved over to the spirituality and religion forum were belief without a shred of proof is the rule, not the exception.
Kevin A.
nice one
Blacksabbath
Apr 8 2008, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (Mahtu @ Apr 8 2008, 04:11 AM)

Just because he didn't conclusively prove to your satisfaction that it WASN'T convection and heat? That doesn't conclusively prove that it was either. Sure, he didn't cover the wheel with glass, so he couldn't PROVE that he did it. But you weren't standing next to him with measuring equipment either and had nothing to do with the experiment so you have no proof either.
Ah Alright. I levitated 15 feet into the air today. No one saw me doing it though, but I did it. I'm not proving it because I am too busy.
anonymous51
Apr 8 2008, 07:56 PM
What do you need TK for anyway? You're not gonna get to throw cars around and slam people into walls, like in the cartoons. Look at anybody with a degree of success in life, none of them waste their time on this nonsense, they actually focus on real things. Waste your time if you like though, but I recommend just getting a PS3 instead.
Heartagram3200
Apr 8 2008, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Blacksabbath @ Apr 8 2008, 12:06 PM)

Ah Alright. I levitated 15 feet into the air today. No one saw me doing it though, but I did it. I'm not proving it because I am too busy.
Well, thats nice...Hope you find the time to show us...Maybe, share how you did it? The sensations you felt, what methods you followed...Thats atleast what I always do, I may not hsow visual proof, but I compensate for it with alot of other stuff...
Blacksabbath
Apr 8 2008, 09:18 PM
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 8 2008, 10:33 PM)

...Maybe, share how you did it? The sensations you felt, what methods you followed...
Watch DBZ, that's where I got the idea, and where I saw how to do it.Thats atleast what I always do, I may not hsow visual proof, but I compensate for it with alot of other stuff...
Alot of other stuff being words, which is what I'm trying to prove with me sarcasm here. Words prove nothing 
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