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Fayed Still Suspects Conspiracy
By ROBERT BARR – 2 hours ago

LONDON (AP) — Mohamed Al Fayed still believes British secret agents might have been involved in the death of his son and Princess Diana, his spokeswoman said Tuesday.

A coroner's jury decided Monday that Diana and Dodi Fayed were unlawfully killed due to reckless speed and drinking by their driver, and by the reckless pursuit of vehicles chasing them — not as part of a murder conspiracy.

Photographers were chasing the couple in cars and on motorbikes but Katherine Witty, a spokesman for Al Fayed, contends that two of the pursuing vehicles have not been identified.

"It is possible that MI6 were involved. We are saying that it's possible," Witty said in an interview with British Broadcasting Corp. television.

"But whether as far as you are concerned and the general public are concerned we can do anything about that remains to be seen," she said.

The coroner, Lord Justice Scott Baker, had told the jury that Al Fayed and his legal team had not produced any evidence that the Secret Intelligence Service, known as MI6, was involved in the fatal car crash in Paris on Aug. 31, 1997.

Diana's sons, Princes William and Harry, endorsed the jury's verdict.

"We agree with their verdicts, and are both hugely grateful to each and every one of them for the forbearance they have shown in accepting such significant disruption to their lives over the past six months," the princes said in a statement issued Monday.

Al Fayed had claimed that MI6 agents were taking orders from Prince Philip, the husband of Queen Elizabeth II.

When he testified under oath, Al Fayed said he would accept the jury's verdict.

But Michael Cole, another spokesman for Al Fayed, complained in an interview with GMTV that the jury had not been allowed to hear evidence from Philip and the queen.

"When he (Al Fayed) made that declaration, it was on the assumption that the jury would be allowed to hear everything. They weren't," Cole said.

"He had no way of knowing that so many key French witnesses would refuse to come forward," Cole said, apparently referring to the lack of testimony from most of the paparazzi and from two French experts who conducted tests on the blood of the couple's driver, Henri Paul.

Paul was acting head of security at the Ritz Hotel, owned by Al Fayed.

Asked whether Al Fayed felt any responsibility for Paul's drinking on the job, Witty replied: "It was a tragedy what happened to Henri Paul. Henri Paul was an employee of the Ritz, which is not the same as saying an employee of Mohamed."

In his summation, Baker categorically dismissed claims of MI6 involvement.

"There is no evidence that the duke of Edinburgh (Prince Philip) ordered Diana's execution and there is no evidence that the Secret Intelligence Service or any other government agency organized it," Baker said.

In his testimony, Al Fayed had called Philip a Nazi and accused a large number of people of being involved in a murder plot and cover up — including Paul; the couple's bodyguards, who were employees of Al Fayed; then-Prime Minister Tony Blair; Diana's sister and a brother-in-law; the British ambassador to Paris; the French medical service; two French toxicologists; French and British police; and the intelligence agencies of Britain, France and the United States.

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dmgspycat
Here is another good site that let's you know where it all stands as of now.

http://www.dianamurder.com/

The royal family had motive, but so did alot of factions. If you believe the MI5 or royals did it then you have to ask why did the French help in the cover up. Also why were the American cia/nsa involved in trailing her. Were they keeping track of her so British agents could make thier move at the drop of a dime?

To this day the only credible people in this whole affair seem to be the eyewitnesses. Not only did they spot a white fiat Uno speeding out of the tunnel but there was white Fiat Uno paint on the Mercedes the Princess was in.

I can see why she posed a threat. She not only had insider knowledge of how the royal family did it's business and know its weaknesses. She had insider knowledge of American business moguls as well. Im talking about super -elite families that run the government. Now that knowledge was going to be passed into the hands of the Arab world through Dodi. Considering the war with Iraq was planned as early as 1994 by Cheneys friends and that we are now at war with the Arab world and muslims I can see no greater threat to these peoples plans than Princess Dianna with unlimited resources to do humanitarian work from Dodis wealth. She was a liability to a lot of rich people and businesses. May she rest in peace.
MID
QUOTE (She-ra @ Apr 8 2008, 08:08 AM) *
Fayed Still Suspects Conspiracy
By ROBERT BARR – 2 hours ago

LONDON (AP) — Mohamed Al Fayed still believes British secret agents might have been involved in the death of his son and Princess Diana, his spokeswoman said Tuesday.


J...

I have watched Fayed speak many times on this subject.
I get the decided impression that he is a distressed Father who is looking for some significant reason for his Son's death. I understand the pattern of thought.

Personally, I don't think he'll ever get over the death of his Son, and will seek some reason beyond what the investigations have shown, as long as he lives. There's got to be more than this. My Son could not have died over something so typical, so insignificant and mundane as a drunk driver and a bunch of moronic papaprazzi tailing them in some tunnel.

I think we're looking at a tragically pained Father seeking a reason beyond what's readily apparent.

I think that his Son's relationship with the Princess, certainly one of the most visible, classy, and lovely people (in many respects) in the world (a truly class act by any standard), may have caused an illusion of invulnerability as pertains to his Son.

There's gotta be something more than an "accident" involved. This can't be. This was my Son---and the Princess of Wales! It's got to be a conspiracy, a murder! Important people like that can't just die because of a drunk driver and a paparazzi persuit!

Make no mistake, Diana was class all the way...a wondeful person, a lovely lady who did more with her "royalty" that perhaps anyone else "royal' ever did. She was a delight to watch and to listen to and to observe...but the idea of an orchestrated homicide seems way over the top to me....








747400
QUOTE (MID @ Apr 9 2008, 12:59 AM) *
J...

I have watched Fayed speak many times on this subject.
I get the decided impression that he is a distressed Father who is looking for some significant reason for his Son's death. I understand the pattern of thought.

Personally, I don't think he'll ever get over the death of his Son, and will seek some reason beyond what the investigations have shown, as long as he lives. There's got to be more than this. My Son could not have died over something so typical, so insignificant and mundane as a drunk driver and a bunch of moronic papaprazzi tailing them in some tunnel.

There's gotta be something more than an "accident" involved. This can't be. This was my Son---and the Princess of Wales! It's got to be a conspiracy, a murder! Important people like that can't just die because of a drunk driver and a paparazzi persuit!

I think that's what's behind a lot of conspiracy theories ... people can't believe that, somethimes, things just happend, randomly and out of the blue, or that someone in authority may just have been negligent or whatever; that, sometimes, sh*t just happens; there must be a reason behind it, a reason for everything. It's like some kinds of religious thinking; there must be some divine or satanic (as appropriate; for conspiracy theories, usually the latter) plan behind everything.
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (747400 @ Apr 9 2008, 11:41 AM) *
I think that's what's behind a lot of conspiracy theories ... people can't believe that, somethimes, things just happend, randomly and out of the blue, or that someone in authority may just have been negligent or whatever; that, sometimes, sh*t just happens; there must be a reason behind it, a reason for everything. It's like some kinds of religious thinking; there must be some divine or satanic (as appropriate; for conspiracy theories, usually the latter) plan behind everything.



True & thats why some people can't accept the facts of 9/11 i.e. 'how could half a dozen or so muslim extremists bring down the twin towers' It's too bitter a pill for some people to swallow. In fact i would liken those people that believe in a 9/11 conspiracy as having a similar mental state as Al Fyed.
unit
who better to suspect *conspiracy* than another one of the elite (Mr. Fayed) ?

MID puts it into some perspective.. in that it may be hard for Mr. Fayed to accept the 'normal-ness' of it all.. but i still don't buy it.. too much inept handling afterwards and other strange co-inkydinks for it to be 'normal' ..what is now, three inquests and still 'nothing'?

itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (unit @ Apr 9 2008, 02:20 PM) *
who better to suspect *conspiracy* than another one of the elite (Mr. Fayed) ?

MID puts it into some perspective.. in that it may be hard for Mr. Fayed to accept the 'normal-ness' of it all.. but i still don't buy it.. too much inept handling afterwards and other strange co-inkydinks for it to be 'normal' ..what is now, three inquests and still 'nothing'?


What do you mean by 'still nothing' ....So you're starting out on the premise that there 'is something'. Um lets see, ....Dodi & Diana sat in the back of a car not wearing seat belts, travelling at excesive speed through a tunnel lined on one side with reinforced concrete pillars, driven by a guy with excess alcohol & traces of drugs in his bloodstream, being chased by a gaggle of paparazzi on motorbikes........what could possibly go wrong !!!!!!!!!!
747400
QUOTE (unit @ Apr 9 2008, 02:20 PM) *
who better to suspect *conspiracy* than another one of the elite (Mr. Fayed) ?

MID puts it into some perspective.. in that it may be hard for Mr. Fayed to accept the 'normal-ness' of it all.. but i still don't buy it.. too much inept handling afterwards and other strange co-inkydinks for it to be 'normal' ..what is now, three inquests and still 'nothing'?

I think that's the way that Al-Fayed tends to look at things: governments, detectives, whoever, can't just be inept, they must be covering something up. Much like 9/11. I, however, find it all too easy to believe that they are perfectly capable of simply being inept.
Bill Hill

QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ Apr 9 2008, 02:55 PM) *
What do you mean by 'still nothing' ....So you're starting out on the premise that there 'is something'. Um lets see, ....Dodi & Diana sat in the back of a car not wearing seat belts, travelling at excesive speed through a tunnel lined on one side with reinforced concrete pillars, driven by a guy with excess alcohol & traces of drugs in his bloodstream, being chased by a gaggle of paparazzi on motorbikes........what could possibly go wrong !!!!!!!!!!


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unit
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What do you mean by 'still nothing'

perhaps you did not see the sarcasm there..

can say it this way.. who won the last soccer world cup? no need for 3 inquests into that was there? wink2.gif

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....So you're starting out on the premise that there 'is something'. Um lets see, ....Dodi & Diana sat in the back of a car not wearing seat belts, travelling at excesive speed through a tunnel lined on one side with reinforced concrete pillars, driven by a guy with excess alcohol & traces of drugs in his bloodstream, being chased by a gaggle of paparazzi on motorbikes........what could possibly go wrong !!!!!!!!!!

heh.. it sounds so lovely the way you say it.. if i refused to explore other avenues i suppose i'd be happy with that also..

not really saying one thing or another about a subject i know bupkiss about.. only from what i've seen from the media.. and yes, like the 911 event.. just leads to more questions.. there's nothing wrong with asking questions.. original.gif
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (unit @ Apr 9 2008, 03:20 PM) *
perhaps you did not see the sarcasm there..

can say it this way.. who won the last soccer world cup? no need for 3 inquests into that was there? wink2.gif


heh.. it sounds so lovely the way you say it.. if i refused to explore other avenues i suppose i'd be happy with that also..

not really saying one thing or another about a subject i know bupkiss about.. only from what i've seen from the media.. and yes, like the 911 event.. just leads to more questions.. there's nothing wrong with asking questions.. original.gif



I do apologise, yes I misread your post. (& missed the sarcasm) wink2.gif
frenat
QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ Apr 9 2008, 10:55 AM) *
What do you mean by 'still nothing' ....So you're starting out on the premise that there 'is something'. Um lets see, ....Dodi & Diana sat in the back of a car not wearing seat belts, travelling at excesive speed through a tunnel lined on one side with reinforced concrete pillars, driven by a guy with excess alcohol & traces of drugs in his bloodstream, being chased by a gaggle of paparazzi on motorbikes........what could possibly go wrong !!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. And don't forget that if she had been wearing her seatbelt she likely would have survived. What kind of crazy plot depends on a person not wearing their seat belt?
747400
Considering that some say that JFK was shot by his own driver, has anyone yet floated the theory that Henri Paul was a kamikaze MI6 agent?
MID
QUOTE (unit @ Apr 9 2008, 10:20 AM) *
MID puts it into some perspective.. in that it may be hard for Mr. Fayed to accept the 'normal-ness' of it all.. but i still don't buy it.. too much inept handling afterwards and other strange co-inkydinks for it to be 'normal' ..what is now, three inquests and still 'nothing'?



Well...

As I consider this, I have to say that there is nothing really all that abnormal about ineptitude!
It happens all too frequently...

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MID
QUOTE (747400 @ Apr 9 2008, 01:39 PM) *
...has anyone yet floated the theory that Henri Paul was a kamikaze MI6 agent?



You are feeding certain people's fires there!
I'd be willing to bet that very theory surfaces... wacko.gif


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Considering that some say that JFK was shot by his own driver...


The same sort of person who thinks this will advance the MI6 "theory".

...I have never understood the incredible degree of illogic that could possibly fuel such an imbecilic speculation as the driver shot the President...
Cynical1
QUOTE (MID @ Apr 9 2008, 12:59 AM) *
Make no mistake, Diana was class all the way...a wondeful person, a lovely lady who did more with her "royalty" that perhaps anyone else "royal' ever did. She was a delight to watch and to listen to and to observe...but the idea of an orchestrated homicide seems way over the top to me....



I don't see that at all, she seemed to be a publicity whore. She also appeared to look for rich men
who would take care of her.
MID
QUOTE (Cynical1 @ Apr 10 2008, 09:10 AM) *
I don't see that at all, she seemed to be a publicity whore. She also appeared to look for rich men
who would take care of her.



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And how is it, do you think, that the absolutely beautiful and charming Princess of Wales, member of the British Royal Family, actually escapes attention?


Publicity whore? Where are you coming from? The woman did everything in her power to shield herself and her children from the excesses and overt attention inherent in her position. She was a Princess...in a position which meant she must be seen, and heard, and photographed ad-nauseam.

She decided not to be just a figurehead and actually do things with her position that might help people out. When she left the palace, I suppose you think that the paparazzi and media didn't have cars a waiting to follow her every bloody move? It's the nature of the position! Whore? C'mon. Alot of celebrities like movie stars and pop and rock stars fit that mold, certainly, doing anything to get attention.

She didn't have to. It came with her position, and most certainly with her beauty and her character. And, who do you think are the type of people that Royal Princesses associate with...by position and status? Lots of rich folks, higher-ups, etc...is it amazing that someone like Dodi Al Fayed might find her somewhat enthralling? How could she ever even meet some regular guy who worked in a local company? Hell, she couldn't even go out on vacation and sunbathe on a boat 20 miles out to sea without a boat load of photographers sitting 200 yards away trying to get some seductive shot of her!

Time to get real here. Learn something about the Princess and what she did and what kind of a person she was...


And besides, this has nothing to do with Mr. Fayed thinking that his som and the princess were murdered as a result of some conspiracy...

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