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livinonaprayer
I always look forward to the new episodes and I don't mind if nothing turns up.
About the only incident that I had to think about was the flashlight turning on.
As I'm not one to immediately believe in sounds and images I hear or see on TV, but this one has me stumped.
I had a hard time hearing the tapping sounds though. I understand that since the viewers aren't hearing the sounds in person they will be difficult to hear.
On the new season there won't be the background sound effects. It seems Pilgrim Films took a lot of heat from viewers on that subject.

I wish the show could have been longer so we could have seen more of an investigation.
The fact that they were at the AFB is huge in itself.

I don't mean to nitpick here, but if I hear one more time about Steve and his fear of flying....



Pluto-x
I love the show, and I'm a huge fan. I never miss an episode. However... lately I feel like they are being repetitive with their interviews? For example; After they have a personal experience, they feel the need to interview the person after every experience they encounter? The audience is watching, I don't feel like hearing an explanation of their experience after I just watched it on t.v. I want to see more of the investigation! I think its kind of pointless? There are millions of fans knowing about the experience already, why do they have to give an interview for it? I like the investigation part of it, the analysis and reveal.
Nadia Blue
ROFL, Steve is scared of everything. And yes, I totally agree about the background music. Totally inappropriate when you're trying to hear what they're hearing. no.gif It's irked me on more than one occasion. Unfortunately, I missed last night's show. I was kind hoping someone was posting that 23 seconds of footage on here cuz I'm lazy. laugh.gif
livinonaprayer
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 10 2008, 03:45 PM) *
I love the show, and I'm a huge fan. I never miss an episode. However... lately I feel like they are being repetitive with their interviews? For example; After they have a personal experience, they feel the need to interview the person after every experience they encounter? The audience is watching, I don't feel like hearing an explanation of their experience after I just watched it on t.v. I want to see more of the investigation! I think its kind of pointless? There are millions of fans knowing about the experience already, why do they have to give an interview for it? I like the investigation part of it, the analysis and reveal.

I agree that there's too much unnecessary talk going on during the show. We want to see more of the investigation. And oh, how I wish they would stop explaining what an evp or emf is in every single show. Come on, people that are into the paranormal already know what that is, and if somebody just happens to tune in for the first time, they'll know to look it up. Sheesh!
Anyway, it was an OK show. I'm glad Krysten is with them since the "Hunt for the Hunter" winner Mark seems to have fallen off the face of the earth. The team was looking a little thin. I'm trying to get used to Kris as an investigator. I understand she's in training but I didn't like her sassy remark when Krysten asked her if she wanted to do any evp's. Her answer... "perhaps".
Perhaps? Does she need to be asked? Isn't that why she's there?
All things considered, there really wasn't much going on as far as paranormal. But, that's alright. Still a huge fan.


Pluto-x
The show has changed dramatically in just 2 seasons. They never use to rely on personal experiences before for a reveal. They caught no video evidence at the AFB, just audio of the responsive knocking they got. I don't think its enough to proclaim a place to be haunted!? That would be like saying an orb is enough evidence to proclaim a place to be haunted. The flash light going on and off was cool, but realistically it could of been the bulb on its way out. Paranormal activity, yes. But enough evidence to call it haunted? No! Not in my opinion. There are many levels of hauntings. I think they call or proclaim certain places to be haunted to build a good rapport with them. Just M.O.O.

livinonaprayer
You're absolutely right about the show not being the same. I guess I just didn't want to be the one to say it because I am such a huge fan of the show. I think Steve has lost a little credibility because of last weeks episode of Prospect Place when they investigated the underground railroad. He said something like 'you can still see the actual railroad'. Apparentlly he knew nothing about where they were going and made up the thing about still being able to see the railroad. He actually thought there was a real railroad that ran underground. That's OK because they let him have it.
I hadn't thought about the bulb being ready to go out on the flashlight. But it was uncanny how it did go on when Jason asked. I'm still on the fence with that one.
I agree there wasn't enough evidence for them to call it haunted. But then again, I wasn't there. They were asked to investigate Wright-Patterson so they couldn't very well come back and say nothing happened.
Maybe on the next show, something will really WOW me. It just didn't happen this time.
Still a fan.
667-Neighbor of the Beast

I thought the episode was great. I live just a few minutes from WPAFB, and know alot of people who live/work there. It's nice to finally hear something else about it besides hangar 18(which is BS by the way).
The flashlight turning on and off by itself, and pretty much on command was great, but then the bathroom door miving on it's own, the knocks that also seemed to respond on command, was just all great. They had told a friend of mine on base that it was one of the better investigations that they had ever done, and I have to agree. The evidence on this one was pretty good.
Incorrigible1
I enjoy the show. Why wasn't the flashlight itself moved? I realize it's activated by pushing in on the end of the flashlight, but if that's the case, why wasn't the flashlight itself physically moved?

It would require an entire hand to materialize, to manipulate the flashlight button while holding the flashlight stationary. My explanation requires you know that such a flashlight has threads which allow the rear of the flashlight to screw down upon the battery contact. It can be screwed tight enough to cause constant illumination. Backing off a rev or two will allow the push button to operate. He screwed is down until the light was nearly in threadscrew contact with the switch. Vibration could have then caused the circuit to complete and the lamp to light. Neat trick.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 11 2008, 12:17 AM) *
I enjoy the show. Why wasn't the flashlight itself moved? I realize it's activated by pushing in on the end of the flashlight, but if that's the case, why wasn't the flashlight itself physically moved?

It would require an entire hand to materialize, to manipulate the flashlight button while holding the flashlight stationary. My explanation requires you know that such a flashlight has threads which allow the rear of the flashlight to screw down upon the battery contact. It can be screwed tight enough to cause constant illumination. Backing off a rev or two will allow the push button to operate. He screwed is down until the light was nearly in threadscrew contact with the switch. Vibration could have then caused the circuit to complete and the lamp to light. Neat trick.


Actually, the type of flashlight he had did not have the "click on click off" type of switch on the end.
It had a momentary push button switch. ?The light only stays on while the button is being held down.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Apr 11 2008, 12:13 AM) *
Actually, the type of flashlight he had did not have the "click on click off" type of switch on the end.
It had a momentary push button switch. ?The light only stays on while the button is being held down.

We've a failure to communicate. I, too, am describing a momentary push switch, on the aft end. No "click" on/off switch. Yet it probably has a threading on it, too, to allow to screw it down to a constant illumination. It's when the thread is backed off a little that the momentary switch is active. One can also unscrew the light to the point the switch won't be accidently activated.
Pluto-x
The flash light could of malfunctioned period! If the inside of the flash light does not have enough contact reaching the battery, it can cause it to flicker on and off. I'm just speaking from a skeptical & realistic point of view. It was a very cool investigation and a huge honor for TAPS to be invited by the military. But I just don't think its fair to a client to proclaim a place to be haunted on very little evidence. Your fooling yourself and your client. But yeah... I like how they drilled Steve for pretending he knew all about the place. They knew he didn't, that's why they did it that way. They wanted to make fun of him. As for Kris Williams... yeah just a tad bit of an ego! When Kristyn asked her if she would like to do an EVP session, Kris is like "Perhaps!?" WTF!? Perhaps!? I think Jay & Grant are letting her let things get into her head too much. We don't play favorites!

livinonaprayer
I'm finding the flashlight theories very interesting. I guess everything is not what it appears to be.
What about the bathroom door? Did it really move on its own; or should we suspect a nylon thread for example as the culprit.
NoahJaymes
IMO. if the flashlight is set on the off position, it would take a lot to make it flicker if it was a natural occurance. Such as a malfunction. If the flashlight was set to the on position, then the malfunction is more likely to occur. I don't discredit the possibility of such a thing happening, just how could it?

Now if there was a leak of some sort that interfered with the inner workings, such as the on/off variable, I could see where it would be feasible.

Just how many times have you seen a flashlight that was off flicker due to the battery dying?
NoahJaymes
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 11 2008, 10:18 AM) *
When Kristyn asked her if she would like to do an EVP session, Kris is like "Perhaps!?" WTF!? Perhaps!? I think Jay & Grant are letting her let things get into her head too much. We don't play favorites!


Could this not have been her jokingly saying such?

You have to realize these people know each other, they know what they can and can't say to each other and know if one is saying it to by a smartass, or saying it jokingly....like do you wanna go do evps...mmm perhaps. Now to the average veiwer that may sound snobby, but I know my sarcastic jokingly self, most questions are retorical anyway. Regardless of what she said, they were going to do it anyway....right.

(Them) Hey Noah you wanna go down in the basement and do some evp sessions..

(ME) "Midgetfun"

(Them) Sweet, lets go


Just gotta know the person you are dealing with I guess....
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 11 2008, 01:22 AM) *
We've a failure to communicate. I, too, am describing a momentary push switch, on the aft end. No "click" on/off switch. Yet it probably has a threading on it, too, to allow to screw it down to a constant illumination. It's when the thread is backed off a little that the momentary switch is active. One can also unscrew the light to the point the switch won't be accidently activated.



QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 11 2008, 10:18 AM) *
The flash light could of malfunctioned period! If the inside of the flash light does not have enough contact reaching the battery, it can cause it to flicker on and off. I'm just speaking from a skeptical & realistic point of view. It was a very cool investigation and a huge honor for TAPS to be invited by the military. But I just don't think its fair to a client to proclaim a place to be haunted on very little evidence. Your fooling yourself and your client. But yeah... I like how they drilled Steve for pretending he knew all about the place. They knew he didn't, that's why they did it that way. They wanted to make fun of him. As for Kris Williams... yeah just a tad bit of an ego! When Kristyn asked her if she would like to do an EVP session, Kris is like "Perhaps!?" WTF!? Perhaps!? I think Jay & Grant are letting her let things get into her head too much. We don't play favorites!


Possibilities on both of these points with the flashlight. However, ,if it was faulty, or loose somehow, I would think that it would be more likely to flicker on and off in Jasons hands, as he is moving it around, instead of sitting untouched on the floor. Plus, that it would have happened to have "malfuntioned" pretty much on command.
RavenEyes19
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 11 2008, 04:12 PM) *
Could this not have been her jokingly saying such?

You have to realize these people know each other, they know what they can and can't say to each other and know if one is saying it to by a smartass, or saying it jokingly....like do you wanna go do evps...mmm perhaps. Now to the average veiwer that may sound snobby, but I know my sarcastic jokingly self, most questions are retorical anyway. Regardless of what she said, they were going to do it anyway....right.

I agree. I didn't even remember her saying that until it was brought up here. She didn't come off as snobby or arrogant to me. All she said was 'perhaps' and not in a rude way either..I don't think she meant anything by it.

Enjoyed the show. The flashlight flickering on was very odd. It definitely could have malfunctioned, but what are the chances of it doing so right when Jay gave the command? huh.gif
The camera men annoy me on this show sometimes...like when the members say they see things in the room the camera guys keep the camera on them gah
MoonPrincess
I watched it on Wednesday night. It was an okay episode. Though I'm a little disapointed. That they didn't find much.

I would make it a big deal too if I was allowed on a airbase.

XD I love the "day off" moment. Hahaha.
Handsty
I am also on the fence regarding the flashlight. I feel like the show lacked a lot and they needed to fill their hour. Steve's flight simulator for example. I don't know, this shows just didn't have the punch. But, this was their off week. First week, good show. Second week, boring show. Etc. Next week is fifth week: good show. I think they have to explain evps, etc. every week for the new comers. Yeah, Where is MARK????? Miss Priss Kriss can be replaced......no?????
NoahJaymes
Kris can't be replaced....if she does she can join my team grin2.gif
Pluto-x
LOL @ Cry Wolf... I have her on my myspace friends list! original.gif

What really annoys me the most about the show is when they hear sounds or voices. Especially when they try and let the audience hear an EVP they play creepy music!!!? They play it so loud that you really can't hear anything they hear. What's the point of the music? I know to give a fear factor effect but the majority of the audience are ghost hunters and they don't want to hear creepy music over lap a personal experience they might encounter or when revealing an EVP or voice. Its so annoying!!!

I can't believe Steve even got on the airplane to begin with!? LOL...

The show isn't about Steve's fears, its about ghost hunting!

But over all, yeah it does seem they are trying to find things to fill the hour!? I think there needs to be more focus on the investigation, the clients and less creepy music. Music is ok, but don't over do it!

Like I said in other posts they are the only group who portrays our field the best, but they aren't perfect. Lately the lack a lot of things.

livinonaprayer
QUOTE (Pluto-x @ Apr 11 2008, 03:33 PM) *
LOL @ Cry Wolf... I have her on my myspace friends list! original.gif

What really annoys me the most about the show is when they hear sounds or voices. Especially when they try and let the audience hear an EVP they play creepy music!!!? They play it so loud that you really can't hear anything they hear. What's the point of the music? I know to give a fear factor effect but the majority of the audience are ghost hunters and they don't want to hear creepy music over lap a personal experience they might encounter or when revealing an EVP or voice. Its so annoying!!!

I can't believe Steve even got on the airplane to begin with!? LOL...

The show isn't about Steve's fears, its about ghost hunting!

But over all, yeah it does seem they are trying to find things to fill the hour!? I think there needs to be more focus on the investigation, the clients and less creepy music. Music is ok, but don't over do it!

Like I said in other posts they are the only group who portrays our field the best, but they aren't perfect. Lately the lack a lot of things.

In the next season we're promised shows sans the sound effects and music. Apparently Pilgrim films and the group all took a lot of heat about it.
Ahh, hour fillers...don't cha love 'em! wink2.gif
Plainbob13
Lame episode. Which is normal for GhostHunters. They need to bring Brian back and add some fun back. Its bad enough that steve has his freaky moments, You know the killer weeds and spiders.
livinonaprayer
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 11 2008, 08:16 PM) *
Lame episode. Which is normal for GhostHunters. They need to bring Brian back and add some fun back. Its bad enough that steve has his freaky moments, You know the killer weeds and spiders.

It seems a lot of people are missing Brian. They always did have fun with him and made him laugh. Maybe that's what's missing....a little humor. How many times do we need to hear from Steve about spiders and flying? Apparently almost every episode isn't enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm not making fun of him by any means. Peoples' fears are nothing to scoff at. I just wish he'd stop bringing it up.
sam12six
First, the easy one: What's wrong with Kris? She replaced Donna who was worse than dead weight, IMO. While a few people would say she was overreacting to something, I don't recall people every week saying she should be replaced. Is it because Kris is a cutie, or what? Even if she were a lot more catty than she is, she would need to go a long way to ever touch Andy in terms of being b****y.

I miss Brian and Andy, I don't like either one and would hate to be in a situation to work with either, but I love watching other people being forced to work with them. I think they made a mistake when they decided to make the show more about TAPS and less about paranormal investigation. It was refreshing in the early shows to see them get called in to help by a smaller group, or rotate in "standby" investigators. A lot of the boredom people experience with the show is simply the fact that you know the investigators well enough that their reactions to different things is not a surprise. I loved the early seasons when TAPS would work with people from other groups and it just put in bold contrast how most of the groups running around are there to feel creeped out and tell people they hunt ghosts, rather than trying to get unexplainable evidence to examine.

All that being said, I think the biggest pressure on the group is the fact that they're on TV. Ratings and money are the bottom line for any show. I don't personally know, but if GHI blew GH away in the ratings department, I could see a lot of pressure being put on the producers of GH to make it more "hype-y". Just look at the advertisements for upcoming shows. Every new commercial has some, "AMAZING THING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE!!!!!".

It sucks, but that's just the nature of the beast. The show is going to be pushed into whatever direction the producers think will give it the biggest audience.

BTW: You ever wonder how much of a kick-back Grant and Jason get from Roto Rooter? Notice, they never say, "We're plumbers.". They always say, "We're plumbers with Roto Rooter." You hear this as much as you hear about what Steve's afraid of.
Pluto-x
Good point Sam!

Less creepy music, less talk of Steve's fears of spiders and flying. More focus on investigations and the field itself. I hope they follow through with listening to the fans. The producers are in control but since the show is now more focused on Jason and Grant, they have just as much say as the producers. I think Jason and Grant are getting burnt. You don't see as much humor. They have been doing this for a long time, way before Sci Fi contracted them. But yeah, I miss Brian too. He brought in more humor than any other member they ever had. Its funny how Andy and Brian use to have issues but now they work on GHI together? Odd!?

How does Andy get to become part of the reveal with Rob? It was always two lead members doing tours and reveals. Any is not so much a likable character.

The show has definitely changed... how many seasons do you think it will last? That's the question!?



livinonaprayer
In the opening credits of the show, Jason and Grant are listed as producers as well.
I agree there should be more time devoted to the investigation. Please...no more about Steve and what he's afraid of...no more explaining what an evp or emf is...no more telling us they're plumbers for Roto Rooter....we know already...no more telling the viewers what just happened when we saw what just happened.

The only consolation is that in the next season (hope there is one) we're promised no music or sound effects.

Ahh...Andy and Brian together again. Gotta love that one.
And how did Andy become part of the reveal team on GHI? He's not a lead investigator is he?
I personally never cared for Andy. A little too pushy, snobby, and whiny. Sorry, just my opinion.
Brian, on the other hand, is actually missed by a lot of viewers on GH. People will speculate for a long time as to the reason why he left the show. Not our business I guess.
Maybe I'm over-expecting when it comes to the new shows. I want to be totally wowed very soon. We'll see.


ROGER
Some pretty interesting TV critic's like views. wink2.gif On the TAPS web sight and on their Radio show Jay & G. talk about the shows editing which is Not done by them. In fact some of the "Evidence " of some investigations ended up on the cutting room floor to make the show Fit in to the time slot. But let both the TAPS people and Sci Fi know what you think. After all, It's Our show as fans.
I agree the show has it's ups and downs. But I still like it over some of the other Paranormal shows that on on.
MasterPo
QUOTE (ROGER @ Apr 13 2008, 01:33 PM) *
In fact some of the "Evidence " of some investigations ended up on the cutting room floor to make the show Fit in to the time slot.


I agree.

The last time I was having lunch with Grant he said on the first Stanley Hotel investigation they did encounter something (a figure) on the thermal cam and chased it down two hallways before it disappeared. But that whole sequence didn't make it to the final TV version and he didn't understand why 'cause it was so good! But like you said, the production company does the editing. They gotta got somewhere to make a 12+ hour investigation fit 40 minutes of show time (the rest is commercials wink2.gif ).
Shankpin
QUOTE (ROGER @ Apr 13 2008, 12:33 PM) *
But I still like it over some of the other Paranormal shows that on on.


Gosh yea, what an understatement.

Shankpin
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Apr 11 2008, 08:16 PM) *
Lame episode. Which is normal for GhostHunters. They need to bring Brian back and add some fun back. Its bad enough that steve has his freaky moments, You know the killer weeds and spiders.

I really liked Brian.. couldn't understand why they give him such a hard time. . poor thang.
NoahJaymes
He lied and made himself look like an ass a lot. I miss him actually...he brought "Character"
MasterPo
QUOTE (CryWolf @ Apr 19 2008, 01:34 AM) *
He lied and made himself look like an ass a lot. I miss him actually...he brought "Character"


When you actually talk with Brian 1-on-1 he's a good guy.

The TV can make anyone look bad depending how it's edited.
Shankpin
QUOTE (MasterPo @ Apr 19 2008, 01:01 PM) *
When you actually talk with Brian 1-on-1 he's a good guy.

The TV can make anyone look bad depending how it's edited.


I thought he was too, and you could tell he loved what he done on the show..

anyway, hate to see him gone.
NoahJaymes
Brian is a good person and an excellent investigator. You have to love what you do to be successful....he was an awesome investigator, no doubt about that.
Pluto-x
I miss his character too...

I wonder if he'll be back on the regular show?

Shankpin
from what i understand he was henpecked.. and his g/f wouldn't have it..

maybe she thought he was getting to much attention..
Pluto-x
He's lucky to be on t.v. at all because of his g/f then? LOL

Shankpin
I think they fought about him being on TAPS a lot.. she wanted him out.. and he had to make a choice.. chose to leave b/c of her.. i could be wrong about this.. but thats how i took it..

Id say drop her on her fanny and do the TAPS thing.. shoot..
Pluto-x
I always say relationships should be 50/50. If you can't respect what they do or like them for who they are then its not going to work. However, he has a baby now. He has a huge responsibility. Having kids can change your life.
Shankpin
I agree. I just got the impression she wasn't being fair to him, you could tell he didn't want to go..
NoahJaymes
I think it was a different girlfriend you are talking about. The one he has now I believe is supportive hence, GHI.
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