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Caana
Yesterday in the house they{house dems} initiated an act that was outside the intent of the free trade order that authorizes the president to deal with other nations in the matter of trade. Due to ideology/religious/eco prej. Pelosie committed an act of treason against the duly elected leader of our nation, and his administration, which represents the United states of America.

It is both serious, and a smokscreen, to hide another thing the theocrats are trying to slip through. The clean beach stuff thats on the table, within are clauses that would give broad authority to the congress if an eco disaster is declared, an authority that would override the president's, and they are going to use it to both get rid of our legal president/goverment, and geld the corporations which support it at the same time.

They are going to try the threadbare cloak of legality's/procedure with the mealy mouthed twisting that is the hallmark of religious zionist democrats, which currently control our congress. All their propaganda through the last years has become much clearer, the religious terrorists that control the dem side of congress, are going to go ahead with their takeover plans.

Prepare to arm yourselves, those who are loyal to our nations president, and prepare to fight for what the religious zionists have almost succeeded in takeing away under the cloak of need, our freedom, which the current president and goverment protect, and will need those who are loyal american citizens, to help defend it.

That is going to be very soon now.

jaylemurph
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 11 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Yesterday in the house they{house dems} initiated an act that was outside the intent of the free trade order that authorizes the president to deal with other nations in the matter of trade. Due to ideology/religious/eco prej. Pelosie committed an act of treason against the duly elected leader of our nation, and his administration, which represents the United states of America.


You do understand that the president (despite what the current one seems to think) does not in any situation have unlimited power, and the Congress has, as they use here, several methods of checking his power?

Besides, the Constitution (Article III, section 3) strictly and narrowly defines treason:

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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.


By this (the only) definition, you'd be hard pressed to prove that a Representative in the course of House procedure was guilty of treason.

Why not call a spade a spade and just say "Someone in Congress did something I didn't like" and spare us the hyperbole?

--Jaylemurph
Caana
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 12 2008, 12:39 AM) *
You do understand that the president (despite what the current one seems to think) does not in any situation have unlimited power, and the Congress has, as they use here, several methods of checking his power?

Besides, the Constitution (Article III, section 3) strictly and narrowly defines treason:



By this (the only) definition, you'd be hard pressed to prove that a Representative in the course of House procedure was guilty of treason.

Why not call a spade a spade and just say "Someone in Congress did something I didn't like" and spare us the hyperbole?

--Jaylemurph


That was'nt a method, it was defiance of an agreement that congress itself ratified, and changeing it at this time ruins Americas economy even further.
It tells people we are trying to help, and say we are their friends, that because of Religious based politics, which are always destructive to the people of the unfortunate nation who suffers from it, that we will stab them in the back, because of ideology's formed from both religious/spiritual mentality's that are not supposed to effect our goverment{there's a paper that says so}

Treason has been committed in that her and all those who are backing this gambit, have both aided and abetted the enemy's we are at war with, for several years as well as now, and are takeing steps that will have both economic and phsical conseqences{negative ones} on the rest of the nation.

I read it myself many times when i was in the military, and what the've been doing is adhering to our enemy's, by aiding them through their actions, which are going to and have had, wide rangeing affects. The point is that our nation is at war, and there are other rules which goverment officials like pelosie and the rest of them are subject to during war time.

They are rotten with what they have done, leading their faction in revolution while the nation is at war under the cloak of religion, and a self assumed morality for the people. Hyperbole is exactly what they have been feeding us all along, with pelosies latest stunt against the president and goverment as camoflage, they are going to slip that through with the clean beach stuff, which will be the basis for their takeover, along with all the propaganda in recent yrs. They believe it will get past the administrations guard.

I will not ever show her or her croneys any respect whatsoever. They are going to fall like scum always do.
4dplane
QUOTE (Caana)
Prepare to arm yourselves, those who are loyal to our nations president, and prepare to fight for what the religious zionists have almost succeeded in takeing away under the cloak of need, our freedom, which the current president and goverment protect, and will need those who are loyal american citizens, to help defend it.

BS - Bush ever since 911 has enacted his war time presidential power; hence he is a pseudo dictator. We at best live under a constitution that only reminds us of what we once had. And the worst part is - it appears that every president after Bush will have this new founded power - power does not just give up power! Frankly, I would love to see Congress actually grow a spine and put this current president to rest - but they won't because most of them are either weak and or corrupt.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 11 2008, 08:12 PM) *
Treason has been committed in that her and all those who are backing this gambit, have both aided and abetted the enemy's we are at war with, for several years as well as now, and are takeing steps that will have both economic and phsical conseqences{negative ones} on the rest of the nation.


I'll take it as usual you don't have any reference to the actual act of Congress you're talking about (like a H.R. Number or the Bill's formal name) or the treaty you say is being trampled on so we can actually see what you're raving about.

Can you, perhaps, explain how exactly this act qualifies as "aiding and abetting the enemy's [sic] we are at war with" -- I assume you mean terrorists, since we aren't at war with any nation states at the moment , but I wasn't aware the terrorists had set up any formal trade groups that Congress or the President were dealing with.

Though I'm inclined to believe that the recent cable broadcast of the first three Star Wars installments have you het up over trade alliances, wars and conspiracy.

--Jaylemurph
Caana
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 12 2008, 03:13 AM) *
I'll take it as usual you don't have any reference to the actual act of Congress you're talking about (like a H.R. Number or the Bill's formal name) or the treaty you say is being trampled on so we can actually see what you're raving about.

Can you, perhaps, explain how exactly this act qualifies as "aiding and abetting the enemy's [sic] we are at war with" -- I assume you mean terrorists, since we aren't at war with any nation states at the moment , but I wasn't aware the terrorists had set up any formal trade groups that Congress or the President were dealing with.

Though I'm inclined to believe that the recent cable broadcast of the first three Star Wars installments have you het up over trade alliances, wars and conspiracy.

--Jaylemurph


1}Watch cnn.

2} The terrorists are pelosie and reid, and the rest of them that are supporting those actions.

3}Already did all that.

4} Don't watch that primitive stuff anymore except for background noise when i'm cleaning or something, i know whats really out there. I focus on the percieved reality here, and see the truth of actions, not paper stories called facts/precedures, that i did'nt write what they call it only means that i don't bother writing thing's those who watched it already know, you want the specifics, then get them yourself. Know the specific's, don't lose yourself in them, those who do can't see any broader picture.

We'll see were their negative actions against our nation, and legal president/goverment above them leads. As the other poster said, they won't succeed. Their not weak as he wrote, but nor is the legal president/goverment/nation they are rebelling against. We'll see pelosie and the rest of her ilk in prison for stagemanageing the basis of the current problems we seem to be beset by. And for the fear mongering they have plagued us with since the start of the war.

Good day to you. grin2.gif


Zaus
Jayle is in complete denial, and is brainwashed by the american consumer culture.

The zionist already own us, its called the federal reserve.

Bush and all other members of the "legit" government are just puppets.

Bush has already committed treason against the united states, as have many other presidents and people in power, however again they are just the puppets, the masters sit far behind and away from politics.

North American Union = treasonous agreement between mexico, the us, and canada to even more centralize the power of the government(and the Elite). Signed without consent from any member of congress, or the american people.

Again, most people are brainwashed and cannot see with their own eyes, they are in a complete and constant denial of having already been deceived, and continuing to believe the lies that pour out of the mainstream.

Smart people watch comedy central for their news, but this is just to make fun of the american people, for whatever reason alot of people enjoy being treated like slaves.


EDIT: and cattle.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 11 2008, 09:42 PM) *
1}Watch cnn.


So that's a "No, I can't back up anything I'm saying"?

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2} The terrorists are pelosie and reid, and the rest of them that are supporting those actions.


So terrorism can be defined as "the politics I don't agree with", since Pelosie and Reid are duly elected Representatives, representing their constituency? That definitely backs up the idea that "terrorism is politics I don't personally agree with".

Looks like your political acumen is neck and neck with your ability to express yourself.

--Jaylemurph
Caana
QUOTE (Zaus @ Apr 12 2008, 04:19 AM) *
Jayle is in complete denial, and is brainwashed by the american consumer culture.

The zionist already own us, its called the federal reserve.

Bush and all other members of the "legit" government are just puppets.

Bush has already committed treason against the united states, as have many other presidents and people in power, however again they are just the puppets, the masters sit far behind and away from politics.

North American Union = treasonous agreement between mexico, the us, and canada to even more centralize the power of the government(and the Elite). Signed without consent from any member of congress, or the american people.

Again, most people are brainwashed and cannot see with their own eyes, they are in a complete and constant denial of having already been deceived, and continuing to believe the lies that pour out of the mainstream.

Smart people watch comedy central for their news, but this is just to make fun of the american people, for whatever reason alot of people enjoy being treated like slaves.


EDIT: and cattle.


It's obvious what jay is doing here, so i'll not respond to him now. What you described is the impression that has been worked for through the religious zionist controlled media, to turn people away from their president and goverment, through planned controlled hysteria. The congressional dems are responsable for that. President Bush has not committed any kind of treason, and it is that which we are all going to be let in on very soon now, by the revealation of the actions that the religious zionists who control the democratic congress have committed, and the really sad results of them at the expense of the American public, and others of the world.

That you use the term puppet is apt, but that can be said of everyone here in the world, it is an effect of civilization. Yet that does'nt make what those who fight against the religious fascism of the democratic congress anyones puppets, they are trying to stop that.

The definition of acuman by the other poster means being the very puppet of those forces, something i will never be, or those who will defeat the religious zionists who control the democrats.
mrbusdriver
QUOTE (4dplane @ Apr 11 2008, 07:20 PM) *
BS - Bush ever since 911 has enacted his war time presidential power; hence he is a pseudo dictator. We at best live under a constitution that only reminds us of what we once had. And the worst part is - it appears that every president after Bush will have this new founded power - power does not just give up power! Frankly, I would love to see Congress actually grow a spine and put this current president to rest - but they won't because most of them are either weak and or corrupt.


Uhhh, Congress voted in favor of the use of force, don't you remember the fist banging Dems and Reps alike calling for Saddam's head? I remember it clearly. It wasn't a unilateral President thing, nor could it be.
Caana
QUOTE (mrbusdriver @ Apr 13 2008, 02:15 AM) *
Uhhh, Congress voted in favor of the use of force, don't you remember the fist banging Dems and Reps alike calling for Saddam's head? I remember it clearly. It wasn't a unilateral President thing, nor could it be.


Your right of course. But the situation had been set up and enacted through the duplicity of the religious zionist slaves of those who control them, the zionists themselves, who are nothing more then aisiatic monglodes on the cheap, at the expense of the rest of the peoples of the world.

That we have spent so much on the war is to weaken us at home, because their real target is the total control of America itself. And why we are faceing a very real civil war here at home, and soon. It is why they have created the circumstances that they have, they believe we have no chance against them because they play us against each other through religious or non religious beliefs, while they have systematicly destroy our economy, which they control the direction of anyway, through the world bank which they control.

People here know what i claim i can do, and i have proved it to many here privately. I saw bloomberg meet with obama, and bloomberg said to him this.
This is the only thing i can do for you, somehow they have found us out, and are watching us all closely. obama said back, how, do you know? I won't tell you anymore, bloomberg said to him, just remember, if you fail, don't come to me. It was in bloombergs office, a very large room molded in dark wood.

Second one, pelosie and rockefeller, reid, and some others, were in a private meeting place, and were talking about what i had wrote here in this thread.
They agreed it was to late to stop what they are about, and would'nt anyway, when they left were they were, they all said together, go with god, before they went their seperate ways.

They are playing all the cards against us, our goverment, and the united states. i have seen pelosie go insane and hang herself, rockefeller shoots himself in the head, there's more, but thats enough.

President Bush is loyal to America, and knows about, and is working against them, why they have tried to enwall him with their reverse retoric about religion, and his supposed connection with the zionist plot. That was cheney's and clintons deal, and what our president had walked into when he first took office, they used his love for his country, and patriotism against him, and he did make some mistakes because of it, but like the great leader he is, he is rectifying the damage the zionists/religious zionists have, and are causeing.

We will all be thankfull he is our president when it is over.

Also, the wright activist, when i saw that house he is having built on fox news, this is what i saw and heard. He is going to claim it has been costed and paid for by the gifted money of the people who love him{he's trying to discredit fox news for their assertion he is a paid racial rabble rowser with that one} When it is completed, he will be having hundreds of people going there, and the upper class whites around the area are going to complain that their road to their homes is'nt a highway, and he will be fined for having more then fifty people at a time there, what it is all about is just more propaganda against people like our president, and other caucausion elites. it will of course, set up a hubbub, which is what they want.

Anyway, it won't last long, as they are a part of the conspiracy, along with the christian/muslim/jew american zionist conspiracy. Good to see someone else who does'nt let the zionist propaganda blind you. Have a good one.
ships-cat
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 20 2008, 10:16 AM) *
...Anyway, it won't last long, as they are a part of the conspiracy, along with the christian/muslim/jew american zionist conspiracy. Good to see someone else who does'nt let the zionist propaganda blind you. Have a good one...


.. and in Market news, trading was brisk in Tinfoil futures...

Hey Caana, the fact that you can use terms like a "christian/muslim/jew .... zionist conspiracy" indicates that you understand VERY little about Islam.

Meow Purr.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Apr 20 2008, 05:15 AM) *
.. and in Market news, trading was brisk in Tinfoil futures...

Hey Caana, the fact that you can use terms like a "christian/muslim/jew .... zionist conspiracy" indicates that you understand VERY little about Islam.

Meow Purr.


Clearly, ship, you're too caught up by THEM to know what you're talking about.

Caana's here to save us all from ourselves. Even if we don't actually need saving.

--Jaylemurph

Caana
QUOTE (ships-cat @ Apr 20 2008, 10:15 AM) *
.. and in Market news, trading was brisk in Tinfoil futures...

Hey Caana, the fact that you can use terms like a "christian/muslim/jew .... zionist conspiracy" indicates that you understand VERY little about Islam.

Meow Purr.


They are working together here in America, they are the orcastraters of what is happening in the rest of the world, as well as here. The majority of black Americans have, and are, working hand in hand with the christian zionists, and the christian zionists take their cue from bloomberg, however public the disassociation of the American jews, and the christian zionists, who have always been their pawns, and have always been the ones to play them through their religions.

It is similiar to what they had done in germany, to lay the groundwork for what had come to pass{world war 2} The christian zionist are communistic socialists, and the jewish zionist before they were called jews, they had been communists, as well as elitist. i understand enough about them through how they are being used by the religious zionist movement/rebellion, and the muslim element which are a part of them here in the states and their part in it.
Caana
Religious zionism being the guise being used to promote whats been happening. Religious zionists banding together to destroy what is, and implement their horror control fantasy of a religious empire.
4dplane
QUOTE (Caana @ Apr 11 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Prepare to arm yourselves, those who are loyal to our nations president, and prepare to fight for what the religious zionists have almost succeeded in takeing away under the cloak of need, our freedom, which the current president and goverment protect, and will need those who are loyal american citizens, to help defend it.


QUOTE (4dplane @ Apr 11 2008, 08:20 PM) *
BS - Bush ever since 911 has enacted his war time presidential power; hence he is a pseudo dictator. We at best live under a constitution that only reminds us of what we once had. And the worst part is - it appears that every president after Bush will have this new founded power - power does not just give up power! Frankly, I would love to see Congress actually grow a spine and put this current president to rest - but they won't because most of them are either weak and or corrupt.


QUOTE (mrbusdriver @ Apr 12 2008, 09:15 PM) *
Uhhh, Congress voted in favor of the use of force, don't you remember the fist banging Dems and Reps alike calling for Saddam's head? I remember it clearly. It wasn't a unilateral President thing, nor could it be.


Thanks, I know what you are saying but your comment has nothing to do with the comment I left for Caana - so get off me britches and get the conversation straight!

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