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kohakufan
I was wondering what cryptid you think stands the least chance of being real (I didn't' put a poll cause there are too many to list)
for me. its dragons they just never made sense to me
Incorrigible1
Dragons.
Dark Kaos
Dragons

Loch Ness Monster

Mokele Mbembe

that's it for me.
Bella-Angelique
the snake with a head the size of a house in the Amazon, I think
kohakufan
QUOTE (Bella-Angelique @ Apr 13 2008, 04:00 PM) *
the snake with a head the size of a house in the Amazon, I think

wait, what?
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE (kohakufan @ Apr 13 2008, 04:07 PM) *
wait, what?


You know, the giant snake with the mouth that is supposed to be the size of a set of double doors.
kohakufan
QUOTE (Bella-Angelique @ Apr 13 2008, 04:10 PM) *
You know, the giant snake with the mouth that is supposed to be the size of a set of double doors.

never heard of it
Pavot
QUOTE (kohakufan @ Apr 13 2008, 06:41 PM) *
I was wondering what cryptid you think stands the least chance of being real (I didn't' put a poll cause there are too many to list)
for me. its dragons they just never made sense to me



Three...in the order of...

George W. Bush. then Unicorns, then Dragons.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 13 2008, 03:50 PM) *
Dragons.


thumbsup.gif

Ditto on that for me!!!
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE (kohakufan @ Apr 13 2008, 04:23 PM) *
never heard of it


sucuriju gigante

the one the natives say can swallow a small boat
kohakufan
QUOTE (Bella-Angelique @ Apr 13 2008, 04:41 PM) *
sucuriju gigante

the one the natives say can swallow a small boat

wow!
Celticfan34
Bigfoot
Heartagram3200
Well, Bigfoot seems real...Cause of the amount of evidence in his favor, I mean, you don't really see that amount of evidence with cryptids alot...Unicorns, I mean, they don't seem that hard to believe, I mean, they're just horses with horns right? A horse with a horn doens't sound all that amazing, so it may be possible...Nessie, Not sure...Maybe fake...


Though, I'd have to say Dragons, and Unicorns eem to be the two biggest ones I'd call fake...With Dragons, their sheer size I guess would give them away..And, how big they supposed to be, the strength of their wings to hold em up, would have to be incredible, and, I'd think we'd be able to hear the wings, since they'd have to be so big...

And Werewolves, I just think someone would see of seen them...And they just sound real farfetched to me...
Matt121
I have to say Bigfoot and dragons.
kohakufan
QUOTE (Heartagram3200 @ Apr 13 2008, 06:46 PM) *
Well, Bigfoot seems real...Cause of the amount of evidence in his favor, I mean, you don't really see that amount of evidence with cryptids alot...Unicorns, I mean, they don't seem that hard to believe, I mean, they're just horses with horns right? A horse with a horn doens't sound all that amazing, so it may be possible...Nessie, Not sure...Maybe fake...


Though, I'd have to say Dragons, and Unicorns eem to be the two biggest ones I'd call fake...With Dragons, their sheer size I guess would give them away..And, how big they supposed to be, the strength of their wings to hold em up, would have to be incredible, and, I'd think we'd be able to hear the wings, since they'd have to be so big...

And Werewolves, I just think someone would see of seen them...And they just sound real farfetched to me...

okay werewolves are the second most unbelievable thing to me
bball
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 13 2008, 02:50 PM) *
Dragons.

Oh come on! As soon as I saw the thread title in the forum, I decided I was going to write the exact same thing you did. Lol. And I definitely agree.
HAJiME
QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Apr 13 2008, 07:50 PM) *
Dragons.

I thought the title of the thread was about cryptids, not mythical creatures. tongue.gif

Rosewin
Dragons.
GreatFenris
1: Dragons: No, we'd seen something of this size that seems to traverse the world..And in the air. They're not some bugs in the amazon or some critter hiding beneath the arctic water.

2: Werewolves: Too far-fetched. Mass-shifting does not work.

3: Too many to count, but a favorite is the Michigan Wolf Man. I can almost accept Bigfoot, as a throw-back something..But a humanoid wolfman? What the heck?
kohakufan
QUOTE (HAJiME @ Apr 14 2008, 04:35 AM) *
I thought the title of the thread was about cryptids, not mythical creatures. tongue.gif

well said
NoahJaymes
I am going to go with werewolf....just uh...not really catching my attention I guess. I mean, yeah there are some hairy ass dudes out there who can perhaps look like such things.....but uh...no transformation or anything like that tongue.gif
Otterclaw
QUOTE (GreatFenris @ Apr 14 2008, 07:31 AM) *
1: Dragons: No, we'd seen something of this size that seems to traverse the world..And in the air. They're not some bugs in the amazon or some critter hiding beneath the arctic water.

2: Werewolves: Too far-fetched. Mass-shifting does not work.

3: Too many to count, but a favorite is the Michigan Wolf Man. I can almost accept Bigfoot, as a throw-back something..But a humanoid wolfman? What the heck?


1. If dragons were as intelligent as ancient people depicted, they would stay well away from humans and wouldn't spend their time cruising over L.A.
2. Yes, werewolves seem far-fetched, although I can see where many people got the idea from. There are many legends of werewolves, and the dogman or wolfman of Michigan closely relates, and some people have called him a werewolf.

3. Gotta love those wolfmen. grin2.gif
Otterclaw
QUOTE (Clovis @ Apr 14 2008, 05:21 AM) *
Dragons.

What is so hard to believe about dragons? A creature hiding away from humans in one of the many vast wildernesses left on our planet. Easily hunting a great many mammles like moose, deer, buffalo, and any other creature native to the area, and keeping shelter in large caves. Ancient people knew about dragons, and if a dragon saw somebody they would...hmmm...run! Duh, they would hide. And I agree, hiding a large dragon is rather hard, which would explain the frequent sightings, but not a live one captured.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 14 2008, 07:40 PM) *
frequent sightings

I have to ask, respectfully, Otterclaw, frequent sightings?
Heartagram3200
Yea, no disrespect man, but, I never really hear bout Dragons...
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 14 2008, 05:40 PM) *
What is so hard to believe about dragons? A creature hiding away from humans in one of the many vast wildernesses left on our planet. Easily hunting a great many mammles like moose, deer, buffalo, and any other creature native to the area, and keeping shelter in large caves. Ancient people knew about dragons, and if a dragon saw somebody they would...hmmm...run! Duh, they would hide. And I agree, hiding a large dragon is rather hard, which would explain the frequent sightings, but not a live one captured.

And the ancients weren't exactly experts in modern biology, were they? There are NO SIX LIMBED VERTEBRATES. It hasn't happened yet. NO CREATURE THAT IS A VERTEBRATE has evolved to having six limbs. Many OTHER kinds of animals eat deer, buffalos, moose, etc. Wolves can take down a full grown moose. It doesn't take an extremely large creature to eat large animals. If we're going to argue that because reptiles have been around a long time so they MUST be intelligent, how do you explain insects? THEY were around LONG before any form of reptiles, so why aren't they extremely intelligent creatures? Because we are the only creatures who adapted to our environments in a way that led us to have complete mastery over it. And WHAT FREQUENT SIGHTINGS????? I have NEVER heard of ANY dragon sightings being reported ANY time that I have been alive, which is almost 2 decades. That's not exactly frequent. And if something like that HAD happened, I would have been able to find out, because I was obsessed over dragons when I was little. But, I can clearly see now that their existence is not likely AT ALL.
Syntax
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 15 2008, 10:40 AM) *
What is so hard to believe about dragons? A creature hiding away from humans in one of the many vast wildernesses left on our planet. Easily hunting a great many mammles like moose, deer, buffalo, and any other creature native to the area, and keeping shelter in large caves. Ancient people knew about dragons, and if a dragon saw somebody they would...hmmm...run! Duh, they would hide. And I agree, hiding a large dragon is rather hard, which would explain the frequent sightings, but not a live one captured.


A lot of Cryptid sightings are supported by supposed evidence (note: I use supposed because evidence by definition is not tainted - however a lot of evidence put forward can be picked apart).

In the case of Dragons, there is only literary evidence to go by.

If literary evidence is considered primary evidence, then I put forward to you that The cat in the hat was real, and so was Snow White and the seven dwarves.

GreatFenris
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 15 2008, 02:38 AM) *
1. If dragons were as intelligent as ancient people depicted, they would stay well away from humans and wouldn't spend their time cruising over L.A.


It does not bloody matter! It's a huge flying reptile. Not some small rodent or lizard in a jungle. It would have shown up, especially during the Cold War when everyone was monitoring the airspace like it was the most important thing in the world
The One Who Is
Man-Eating Plant
Otterclaw
QUOTE (GreatFenris @ Apr 15 2008, 03:14 AM) *
It does not bloody matter! It's a huge flying reptile. Not some small rodent or lizard in a jungle. It would have shown up, especially during the Cold War when everyone was monitoring the airspace like it was the most important thing in the world

Not if the dragon was hiding in a secluded spot.


Frequent sightings? God, do you people look anywhere? I know people who have claimed to see dragons, there have been sightings of dragons in the Rocky Mountains, all over the world, and not to mention the hundreds of sightings that slowly leak out from people fearing getting ridiculed. "Dragons have been spotted in the Rocky Mountains of Alberta and British Columbia, even if the witness was uncertain about the true size of the creature, she report to have seen a giant creature about fifteen feet tall at the shoulder. After telling to one of her best friend, she merely consider this as a joke." You can find this quote in a lot of different places.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 15 2008, 02:11 PM) *
Frequent sightings? God, do you people look anywhere? I know people who have claimed to see dragons, there have been sightings of dragons in the Rocky Mountains, all over the world, and not to mention the hundreds of sightings that slowly leak out from people fearing getting ridiculed. "Dragons have been spotted in the Rocky Mountains of Alberta and British Columbia, even if the witness was uncertain about the true size of the creature, she report to have seen a giant creature about fifteen feet tall at the shoulder. After telling to one of her best friend, she merely consider this as a joke." You can find this quote in a lot of different places.


I have never heard of anyone who has actually reported a dragon sighting. I've heard reports of large creatures, large reptiles, flying creatures, but none of them was ever reported as a dragon. When most people claim to have seen a giant repitle, usually the first thing that pops into their head is "dinosaur". I've heard reports of people claiming to have seen dinosaurs before. But if you are assuming that all of the above are dragons, then that is pure speculation and assumption. I've heard many cryptid reports, but never one of a dragon. Do you have any sources that show any of these reports?? They would be interesting to read.
Heartagram3200
QUOTE (GreatFenris @ Apr 15 2008, 03:14 AM) *
It does not bloody matter! It's a huge flying reptile. Not some small rodent or lizard in a jungle. It would have shown up, especially during the Cold War when everyone was monitoring the airspace like it was the most important thing in the world



Yea, things like Bigfoot, I can understand the "they can hide" thing, cause, they actually can...Like, Bigfoot could hide in the woods, if Gnomes are real, they are supposdely really small, a ton of places for them...Nessie, has a lake...But a Dragon has the sky, which is monitered at all times by the airforce and armed force/goverment...
Heartagram3200
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 15 2008, 02:11 PM) *
Not if the dragon was hiding in a secluded spot.


Frequent sightings? God, do you people look anywhere? I know people who have claimed to see dragons, there have been sightings of dragons in the Rocky Mountains, all over the world, and not to mention the hundreds of sightings that slowly leak out from people fearing getting ridiculed. "Dragons have been spotted in the Rocky Mountains of Alberta and British Columbia, even if the witness was uncertain about the true size of the creature, she report to have seen a giant creature about fifteen feet tall at the shoulder. After telling to one of her best friend, she merely consider this as a joke." You can find this quote in a lot of different places.



Thats one...Any morw ightings Or a link or two perhaps?
Otterclaw
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Apr 15 2008, 02:58 PM) *
I have never heard of anyone who has actually reported a dragon sighting. I've heard reports of large creatures, large reptiles, flying creatures, but none of them was ever reported as a dragon. When most people claim to have seen a giant repitle, usually the first thing that pops into their head is "dinosaur". I've heard reports of people claiming to have seen dinosaurs before. But if you are assuming that all of the above are dragons, then that is pure speculation and assumption. I've heard many cryptid reports, but never one of a dragon. Do you have any sources that show any of these reports?? They would be interesting to read.



*Sigh* Do your research. Go to any library, website, ect. and look up dragon sightings. There are hundreds of places where people report dragon sightings all around the world.
GreatFenris
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 16 2008, 12:05 AM) *
*Sigh* Do your research. Go to any library, website, ect. and look up dragon sightings. There are hundreds of places where people report dragon sightings all around the world.

I am tempted to yell "DC?! Is that you?!"
But no, the hour is late and I am tired.

I call shenanigans my dear sir/lady.
I've been fascinated by the paranormal for some 18 years now(since I was 7-8) and this past spring is the first time I've heard about dragon sightings.
people seeing Elvis, demons, bigfoot, gnomes etc ...Sure..Dragons? No, because the oddest witnesses(thsoe who see Elvis) have no reason to conjure up imaginary lizards...And those intelligent enough to hoax it up knows a huge flying reptile is about as likely as aliens on Mars. Dragons are, mildly put, unlikely.

And tell me, where could such an animal hide? I seriosuly doubt Antarctica...And most of the remaining world is not as dakr and unexplroed as some want it to be.
Otterclaw
QUOTE (GreatFenris @ Apr 15 2008, 07:28 PM) *
I am tempted to yell "DC?! Is that you?!"
But no, the hour is late and I am tired.

I call shenanigans my dear sir/lady.
I've been fascinated by the paranormal for some 18 years now(since I was 7-8) and this past spring is the first time I've heard about dragon sightings.
people seeing Elvis, demons, bigfoot, gnomes etc ...Sure..Dragons? No, because the oddest witnesses(thsoe who see Elvis) have no reason to conjure up imaginary lizards...And those intelligent enough to hoax it up knows a huge flying reptile is about as likely as aliens on Mars. Dragons are, mildly put, unlikely.

And tell me, where could such an animal hide? I seriosuly doubt Antarctica...And most of the remaining world is not as dakr and unexplroed as some want it to be.


grin2.gif No comment on the "DC" thing. grin2.gif

Why do people say that dragons are so much more far-fetched than blood sucking aliens, giant over-grown vicious worms, huge, shy ape/humans, over-grown shark/sea serpent creatures, and other cryptids? A dragon could hide in many uninhabited places like mountain ranges, the very few vast national parks left, and other inhabited forest areas. There arn't a lot of places left, which would explain some of the sightings. I'm a female, by the way, and I to have always been fasinated by the paranormal. I could never understand why my friends never seemed interested when I told them the newest Bigfoot/Nessie news. "But they found DNA! DNA! I mean, what if they actually caught him/her?" "Uh-huh, sure. Sounds great. I can't wait to hear about that. Hey, is that a new computer game?"
Heartagram3200
Lol...The National Parks are all monitered very closely, but animal specialist, and by the rangers...I mean, mountain ranges, possibilites, but an animal of that size would sure as hell need more food than whats up in the mountains...If there were a huge number of them around, all the animals would be extinct...


Hey! Theres an idea! It's not global warming! It's dragon overpopulation!
GreatFenris
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 16 2008, 01:36 AM) *
grin2.gif No comment on the "DC" thing. grin2.gif

Why do people say that dragons are so much more far-fetched than blood sucking aliens, giant over-grown vicious worms, huge, shy ape/humans, over-grown shark/sea serpent creatures, and other cryptids? A dragon could hide in many uninhabited places like mountain ranges, the very few vast national parks left, and other inhabited forest areas. There arn't a lot of places left, which would explain some of the sightings. I'm a female, by the way, and I to have always been fasinated by the paranormal. I could never understand why my friends never seemed interested when I told them the newest Bigfoot/Nessie news. "But they found DNA! DNA! I mean, what if they actually caught him/her?" "Uh-huh, sure. Sounds great. I can't wait to hear about that. Hey, is that a new computer game?"


Good.

I don't know? I consider each theory false unless proof is shown. Dragons are just one of the most inept cryptid theories.
They are huge flying reptiles. They'd need quite a good deal of food to sustain their own metabolic rate, as keeping their forms aloft must burn energy way too fast. They havea body structure unlike anything in the wild world(limb-wings and two sets of legs? That's...Odd).
If we consider them a highly aggressive predatorial avian race we must also conclude that there would have been alot more reports of them, especially as radar systems cover most of the known world, and much of this world is not some dark forest/remote mountain. Cities abound.
HAJiME
QUOTE
Frequent sightings? God, do you people look anywhere? I know people who have claimed to see dragons, there have been sightings of dragons in the Rocky Mountains, all over the world, and not to mention the hundreds of sightings that slowly leak out from people fearing getting ridiculed. "Dragons have been spotted in the Rocky Mountains of Alberta and British Columbia, even if the witness was uncertain about the true size of the creature, she report to have seen a giant creature about fifteen feet tall at the shoulder. After telling to one of her best friend, she merely consider this as a joke." You can find this quote in a lot of different places.

Sources to ANY documented sightings of dragon or dragon like things. Or, shut up.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (Otterclaw @ Apr 15 2008, 07:05 PM) *
*Sigh* Do your research. Go to any library, website, ect. and look up dragon sightings. There are hundreds of places where people report dragon sightings all around the world.


I did. Almost all of the reports were of "giant reptiles" or "sea monsters". None of the ones I read claimed they had wings, feet, or breathed fire. I think on most of the reports, like I said earlier, people assume that giant beastie= dragon.
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (GreatFenris @ Apr 16 2008, 10:58 AM) *
Good.

I don't know? I consider each theory false unless proof is shown. Dragons are just one of the most inept cryptid theories.
They are huge flying reptiles. They'd need quite a good deal of food to sustain their own metabolic rate, as keeping their forms aloft must burn energy way too fast. They havea body structure unlike anything in the wild world(limb-wings and two sets of legs? That's...Odd).
If we consider them a highly aggressive predatorial avian race we must also conclude that there would have been alot more reports of them, especially as radar systems cover most of the known world, and much of this world is not some dark forest/remote mountain. Cities abound.


Well put. Science has proven that the size/weight of a flying creature is limited. The metabolism and muscle capacity that it would take to allow a giant lizard to fly is off the charts. It is literally impossible.
Then, like mentioned before, the skies are constantly monitored by the earths governments, so something that large would not escape detection. Plus, something that large would need to eat, alot. The small creatures, and the few larger ones, that live in spots secluded enough to hide such a creature would quickly be wiped out by just a couple of these things, meaning they would have to take to inhabited areas for food, which has not happened.

Incorrigible1
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Apr 16 2008, 10:32 AM) *
Well put. Science has proven that the size/weight of a flying creature is limited. The metabolism and muscle capacity that it would take to allow a giant lizard to fly is off the charts. It is literally impossible.
Then, like mentioned before, the skies are constantly monitored by the earths governments, so something that large would not escape detection. Plus, something that large would need to eat, alot. The small creatures, and the few larger ones, that live in spots secluded enough to hide such a creature would quickly be wiped out by just a couple of these things, meaning they would have to take to inhabited areas for food, which has not happened.

What's silly is the necessity of even considering it a remote possibility, that such a creature exists, or ever did. Santa Claus is more plausible.
NoahJaymes
People sightings of dragons eh. So proof is the hear say of people? Where are the photos, research, documentation of such creatures? Yeah, we have dinosaur fossils, but uh......where is the real argument for dragons? Based on some drunk as a skunk eye witness?
Dariune99
I shouldn't really be here due to my inability to ignore a certain someone but i thought i would just add a small post to this discussion.

I concur that dragons are the least likely cryptid around (if indeed you can call them a cryptid at all. I would personally call them cultural myths and fantasy creatures.) So before i continue, be aware that i do not believe in dragons nor that they ever existed.

Having said that i do believe that their biology is not an impossibility. The stereotypical dragon has 6 limbs but i personally prefer the idea that, had a dragon ever existed, it would have similar characteristics (wing wise) to the Draco Volans. Ribs! Now i realise my idea is not original (in fact i first read the theory in Peter Dickinsons book - The Flight of Dragons but i think with a little jiggery pokery a dragons physiology can at least be plausible.

My idea is here http://www.dragonstouch.co.uk/Theory.html (to the Admin/Mods. If it is not acceptable that i link this i will happily remove the link.)

I just felt the need to step in given that so many people had noted the dragon having 6 limbs is an evolutionary impossibility (which i happen to agree with) and so i just wanted to state that their could have been another way (had the dragons existed)
Sweetsalem82103
yeah. . .I thought dragons were more of a "mythical" creature too. . .

Fire breathing aside, there's not much difference between a "dragon" and a "dinosaur". . .well. . .and the wings. . .because winged dinosaurs didn't look anything like a dragon. . .but yeah. . . So, what I'm saying is. . . a dragon could just be considered a big reptile or dinosaur, right?

Well, there you go, the mokele mbembe is a dragon. tongue.gif

Now that that's cleared up ( laugh.gif ) . . .

That's actually a really hard question. hmmm. . . I think.. .The Jersey Devil. I mean... it started out as a local legend, then a big real estate hoax insued. . .I mean, everything unknown has been called the Jersey Devil. . .I've read at least one report of something that sounded more like a bigfoot being labeled the Jersey Devil. . . I mean, he's supposed to have a horse head, bat wings, hooves, and a snake tale. .. that's just highly unlikely.

Edit: typos (as usual)
draconic chronicler
I had not even looked at this thread until now, becasue I new it would be full of ignorant comments by people who do not understand what is meant by 'dragons'.

for 4/5ths the time man has been 'civilized' every human culture acknowledged dragons as living creatures. They were the God's of most, if not all human cultures at point. Therefore the are the most 'believed' of all 'unknown' animals, and there is good evidence that if the God of the Bible is a real entity, then he would be a 'dragon' just as he is described..

EVERY sighting of so called dinosaurs, sea monsters, nessies, pterodactlyls and even most thunderbirds would have been called 'dragons' by our ancestors up until the mid 19th century when the term 'dinosaur' was coined.

So have the dragons people have reported for thousands of years all turned into dinosaurs becasue someone gave them a different name? And could a walnut brained, giant dinosaur or marine reptile in a lake elude scientists for 100 years?

Given the amount of reliable sightings, the only plausible explanation why these creatures can avoid scientific detection if because they are intelligent, EXACTLY as our ancestors said they were.

Sometimes the simplist explanation makes the most sense.

Incorrigible1
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ Apr 16 2008, 07:53 PM) *
I had not even looked at this thread until now, becasue I new it would be full of ignorant comments by people who do not understand what is meant by 'dragons'.

It's so good that you're not ignorant enough to believe intelligent dragons have clandestinely manipulated mankind's history, teaching man about technology and culture, and that dragons exist even now, and that billions of people worship them even in today's world.

Oh, wait...............
robotroid
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ Apr 17 2008, 01:53 AM) *
I had not even looked at this thread until now, becasue I new it would be full of ignorant comments by people who do not understand what is meant by 'dragons'.

for 4/5ths the time man has been 'civilized' every human culture acknowledged dragons as living creatures. They were the God's of most, if not all human cultures at point. Therefore the are the most 'believed' of all 'unknown' animals, and there is good evidence that if the God of the Bible is a real entity, then he would be a 'dragon' just as he is described..

EVERY sighting of so called dinosaurs, sea monsters, nessies, pterodactlyls and even most thunderbirds would have been called 'dragons' by our ancestors up until the mid 19th century when the term 'dinosaur' was coined.

So have the dragons people have reported for thousands of years all turned into dinosaurs becasue someone gave them a different name? And could a walnut brained, giant dinosaur or marine reptile in a lake elude scientists for 100 years?

Given the amount of reliable sightings, the only plausible explanation why these creatures can avoid scientific detection if because they are intelligent, EXACTLY as our ancestors said they were.

Sometimes the simplist explanation makes the most sense.



i think he is exactly right.

sorry it has religious stuff in it, but it's good to watch.

here is a video on that...follow the links to part 2, 3 , ect.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0hfPPB5_zUw&feature=related

another movie can be seen on dragons here... same guy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eulP0_HSD6o
667-Neighbor of the Beast
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ Apr 16 2008, 08:53 PM) *
I had not even looked at this thread until now, becasue I new it would be full of ignorant comments by people who do not understand what is meant by 'dragons'.

for 4/5ths the time man has been 'civilized' every human culture acknowledged dragons as living creatures. They were the God's of most, if not all human cultures at point. This is, as usual, wild assupmtion on your part. Therefore the are the most 'believed' of all 'unknown' animals, and there is good evidence that if the God of the Bible is a real entity, then he would be a 'dragon' just as he is described..Again, not proof, just assumption. Picking and choosing on your part.

EVERY sighting of so called dinosaurs, sea monsters, nessies, pterodactlyls and even most thunderbirds would have been called 'dragons' by our ancestors up until the mid 19th century when the term 'dinosaur' was coined.Where is this documented??

So have the dragons people have reported for thousands of years all turned into dinosaurs becasue someone gave them a different name? This is a 2 way street. Dinosaurs existed LONG before man and legends of dragons were around. Seems to me more like the other way around. And could a walnut brained, giant dinosaur or marine reptile in a lake elude scientists for 100 years?The same way a walnut brained idiot can, in modern times, actually believe that something that is a fairy tale still exists.

Given the amount of reliable sightings,Reliable?? Show me just ONE!! the only plausible explanation why these creatures can avoid scientific detection if because they are intelligent, EXACTLY as our ancestors said they were.You mean EXACTLY as you twist the facts around to be.

Sometimes the simplist explanation makes the most sense.Agreed. A creature that cannot bilogically exist, could not escape detection in todays world, has no physical evidence of it's existance, nor has any evidnce of existance outside of fictional stories, simply does not exist. Simplest explanation.

Archosaur
QUOTE (667-Neighbor of the Beast @ Apr 16 2008, 11:32 AM) *
Well put. Science has proven that the size/weight of a flying creature is limited. The metabolism and muscle capacity that it would take to allow a giant lizard to fly is off the charts. It is literally impossible.
Then, like mentioned before, the skies are constantly monitored by the earths governments, so something that large would not escape detection. Plus, something that large would need to eat, alot. The small creatures, and the few larger ones, that live in spots secluded enough to hide such a creature would quickly be wiped out by just a couple of these things, meaning they would have to take to inhabited areas for food, which has not happened.


Well, not impossible, Neighbor, just very, very difficult. There is a fossil flying reptile (appropriatly named after Q grin2.gif ) that had a wingspan as wide as an airliner. So, it would be possible to have a large (but not Godzilla sized) reptile fly by muscle power, as it had happened before in the fossil record. Any such dragon would likely glide and soar, rather than rapidly beat it's wings.

PS. I vote for Mothman.
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