you and your wife are one.

"I and my father are one"

and

"None comes to the father except through me" (me=I? copyist error?)

I is whoever says it, who else could 'I' be? We can all say 'I', it's the only thing we all seem to have in common.

I'm not trying to imply that we are all god, but we are all I.

So who is thinking or saying I if I is the Father?

Deep subject and very confusing too! But understandable none the less...The LORD God asked Adam " have you eaten the friut that "I" commanded you not to eat...did Adam ever ask who this "I" was that was speaking to him?
It's funny how when God called out to Moses from that burning bush, Moses said , "here am I" and then the LORD mirriored what Moses said when asked who he was, "I AM"
I don't know about anyone else, but I can't find any personal names associated with GOD, or LORD God, or LORD for that matter...even Jesus is a title not a personal' name.
Mary' is also a title and not a personal name, it was used some what in the terms that some southern Baptists call their female members, Sister'
Ex: Sister' Ann or Sister' Betty
Great observation, Jamielynn!

Interesting thread. Jesus also told a crowd that "before Abraham was I AM"

Good one, Preacherman! I had forgotten all about that one.
How do you suppose the LORD God went about introducing himself to Adam? Wonder what and who he told Adam he was...

you and your wife are one.

Profound insight in those last two post of yours.

Just think for a moment, if God's true name were, 'I', consider those who hold his name sacred and say it should never be said...How messed up will not only their speech be, but their thoughts too. That could be a great lesson in self awareness, you're sinning and in danger of hell fire if you even think the word I'

Interesting thread. Jesus also told a crowd that "before Abraham was I AM"

ya , right !!!

Good one, Preacherman! I had forgotten all about that one.
How do you suppose the LORD God went about introducing himself to Adam? Wonder what and who he told Adam he was...

"I and my father are one"

and

"None comes to the father except through me" (me=I? copyist error?)

I is whoever says it, who else could 'I' be? We can all say 'I', it's the only thing we all seem to have in common.

I'm not trying to imply that we are all god, but we are all I.

So who is thinking or saying I if I is the Father?

"I and my father are one"

and

"None comes to the father except through me" (me=I? copyist error?)

I is whoever says it, who else could 'I' be? We can all say 'I', it's the only thing we all seem to have in common.

I'm not trying to imply that we are all god, but we are all I.

So who is thinking or saying I if I is the Father?

How do you suppose the LORD God went about introducing himself to Adam? Wonder what and who he told Adam he was...

Oh my gosh I hadn't thought of that! We can't help but refer to ourselves as I, it's built in. Even our most basic feeling of being/existence is referred to as I. Woah!

Is this the same in every culture and language?

I actually do agree that it does mean we are all God however on a non-conceptual basis and of pure I AM awareness basis.

The knower and the known are one. Simple people imagine that they should see God, as if He stood there and they here. This is not so. God and I, we are one in knowledge. --Eckhart

In those respects in which the soul is unlike God, it is also unlike itself. ---St Bernard

I would say that Being (I) is the same in every culture and language. I cannot think of another way to say that. I would add that 'I' is not dependant on our being aware of it, it comes before awareness, is what allows awareness to appear.

The concept of ‘self’ in Western and Eastern cultures differs significantly around two poles – the subject ‘I’, characterised by awareness, and the object ‘me’, encompassing internal consciousness. Although a broad generalisation, the ‘self’ of western society is individualistic, in contrast to the eastern concept of ‘collective self’, or the ‘we’ absorbed into the ‘I’. There is general agreement in the literature that the self is formed by social, cultural and historical influences and varies considerably according to the cultural context. Mainstream psychological and psychoanalytic ideas are western-centric, based on the clinical observations of western personality with an emphasis
on individualism. With this in mind, is it possible to apply the concepts of self drawn from Western psychology to individuals who have selves that are formed by non-western influences?

In the Eastern world the concept of ‘self’ is broader. When a person from an eastern culture says ‘I’, the cultural meaning is ‘we’. The ‘self’ includes a variety of significant others leading to the ‘collateral’ or ‘unindividuated’ self

In Japanese culture a sense of ‘I-ness’ or even ‘I want’ or ‘I wish’ seldom exists. Japanese depend on each other to sense what the other person wants. They keep a private, secretive self within whom a range of feelings, fantasies, and thoughts are present. In Indian culture the collective self is superior to individual self .

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

If you and wife/husband are not one then you have problems at home.

I (no pun intended here) I do vaguely recall remembering of watching a documentary and there was mention of it was an indigenous culture or island Tribal or Amazonian Tribe culture that had no word reference to "I", within their own language…anybody here have any clue what culture that was?

Pavot

I (no pun intended here) I do vaguely recall remembering of watching a documentary and there was mention of it was an indigenous culture or island Tribal or Amazonian Tribe culture that had no word reference to “I”, within their own language…anybody here have any clue what culture that was?

Pavot

I (no pun intended here) I do vaguely recall remembering of watching a documentary and there was mention of it was an indigenous culture or island Tribal or Amazonian Tribe culture that had no word reference to “I”, within their own language…anybody here have any clue what culture that was?

Pavot

I believe it is the War-oni, (Probably spelled That wrong) They also do not have a word for hello and Good by, They just show up and Leave.

Love Omnaka

The Father and I are One also.

Love Omnaka

Hi Brave-

I am not one to say that we are god. There is a popular new age saying "We are One" which has saturated the spiritual market place and become the new ultimate spiritual truth of many people. It is very misleading. It places We as Subject of God, it's totally backwards. God is us, but we are not god. I usually won't use the word god even, to much baggage attached to that one. I get your meaning, god is us, but not as us, but as itself, which we cannot be aware of when conceptualizing is present. In non-conception I Am and there is no need to know it, I Am is complete.

I don't remember who said this, but it's the same thing. "What you are looking for is what is looking."

I like that.

We cannot be quite sure that anything that pertains to our culture is the same in other cultures unless we not only speak other languages but live in other societies. This might be a hard concept to grab but other people just do not think like us and what might apply here gets thrown out the box somewhere else.

Yeah even though many people insincerely chant 'We are One' it is still a better statement of truth (even if said as a platitude) than saying we are separate. Even in the quantum physics holographic theory 'we are all one' and so the more we realize we are all interconnected and God (but not in an egotistical or exclusive elite sense) the more people will take more responsibility for their actions because they will see that everything they do whether think or act for have some form of effect on everything else because 'We are One'.

St Francis of Assissi

Hey Brave-



Yeah, I guess I see the We Are One thing more as a We Are One Team when applied to the collective. It's more often than not used as a bridge to reach out to others, but also I've seen it used many times as a defense mechanism. I've had people use it on me as a means to hint to me that I am not open minded to their ideals so am therefore causing separation, suffering, and further illusion for everyone on the planet. We are One does not mean we all have to agree, and it's has in some circles, become something that means just that.