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GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
I have heard rumors and myths of the Priory of Sion, is there any evidence, stories, theories and facts about this secret society? I was scanning on the internet 2 days ago, and found this article on a website called www.cbsnews.com, which shows how the priory of sion supposedly began. This story spans about 4 pages on the website, so I will provide a link instead of c + ping the whole thing: The Priory of Sion link


Post your views and evidence on the subject please.


Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
jaylemurph
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Apr 14 2008, 11:59 AM) *
I have heard rumors and myths of the Priory of Sion, is there any evidence, stories, theories and facts about this secret society? I was scanning on the internet 2 days ago, and found this article on a website called www.cbsnews.com, which shows how the priory of sion supposedly began. This story spans about 4 pages on the website, so I will provide a link instead of c + ping the whole thing: The Priory of Sion link


Post your views and evidence on the subject please.


Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN


The Prieurie du Sion may have been real a thousand years ago, but any mention of it in modern times is all the fiction produced by waiter-turned-fraud Pierre Plantard, who created it in the late 50s/early 60s to give himself a aristocratic background. He was lucky enough to find some dupe BBC writers who bought his schtick hook, line and sinker (as many people still do), which was in turn bought by hack writer Dan Brown.

In 1993, Plantard was arrested and put on trial he admitted his fraud completely.

--Jaylemurph
GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 14 2008, 05:25 PM) *
The Prieurie du Sion may have been real a thousand years ago, but any mention of it in modern times is all the fiction produced by waiter-turned-fraud Pierre Plantard, who created it in the late 50s/early 60s to give himself a aristocratic background. He was lucky enough to find some dupe BBC writers who bought his schtick hook, line and sinker (as many people still do), which was in turn bought by hack writer Dan Brown.


You could be right, you could be wrong on that point jayle wink2.gif

QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 14 2008, 05:25 PM) *
In 1993, Plantard was arrested and put on trial he admitted his fraud completely.

--Jaylemurph


Now jayle, you of all people should know the response I am about to give, and it is a total conspiracists answer: What about the priory frightening him ('putting the frighners on him') to make him denounce whatever he said because of too much publicity towards the priory. It's common knowledge that sometimes, cults and groups etc. like to cover up their true existence for the sake of prolonging existence, and keeping a secret...

Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
jaylemurph
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Apr 14 2008, 12:57 PM) *
You could be right, you could be wrong on that point jayle wink2.gif



Now jayle, you of all people should know the response I am about to give, and it is a total conspiracists answer: What about the priory frightening him ('putting the frighners on him') to make him denounce whatever he said because of too much publicity towards the priory. It's common knowledge that sometimes, cults and groups etc. like to cover up their true existence for the sake of prolonging existence, and keeping a secret...

Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN


Well, all I can say is there are lots of con-men around, but not one single verified super-powerful, ancient secret society.

--Jaylemurph
GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
That may be so, but I hope that you aren't speculating that every one of this type of group are con men, because that assumption would be way off!

Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
tipsy_munchkin
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Apr 15 2008, 07:12 PM) *
That may be so, but I hope that you aren't speculating that every one of this type of group are con men, because that assumption would be way off!

Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN


Enery one of what type of group? I think the implication was more that it is far more likely to be a con man (something often seen) than a huge secret society trying to cover up (of which there is no solid evidence.) Though feel free to correct me if read that wrong.

GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
QUOTE (tipsy_munchkin @ Apr 15 2008, 06:25 PM) *
Enery one of what type of group? I think the implication was more that it is far more likely to be a con man (something often seen) than a huge secret society trying to cover up (of which there is no solid evidence.) Though feel free to correct me if read that wrong.



I meant it in the sense of the illuminati, the priory of sion, the shadow government etc. There is also no solid evidence of any con men. I think you have read this wrong. the Priory of Sion s a supposed group that guards a secret. What the secret is, no one knows. the priory is not a world governing society who rule the earth, they just protect a very valuable seret.

Hope I cleared it up!


Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
jaylemurph
QUOTE (tipsy_munchkin @ Apr 15 2008, 01:25 PM) *
Enery one of what type of group? I think the implication was more that it is far more likely to be a con man (something often seen) than a huge secret society trying to cover up (of which there is no solid evidence.) Though feel free to correct me if read that wrong.


Well parsed.

--Jaylemurph


GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
Might I point out, that lack of evidence doesn't mean it isn't true. You could be framed for murder, with no evidence pointed to the real criminal, all of it pointing to you and you could go down for murder, when in actual fact, the real killer is out there. Assumptions like 'If there is no evidence it can't be real' are wide spread and quite wrong.


Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
jaylemurph
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Apr 16 2008, 10:47 AM) *
Might I point out, that lack of evidence doesn't mean it isn't true. You could be framed for murder, with no evidence pointed to the real criminal, all of it pointing to you and you could go down for murder, when in actual fact, the real killer is out there. Assumptions like 'If there is no evidence it can't be real' are wide spread and quite wrong.


Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN


But you're also the one (apparently) alleging these things are real. You're the one with the burden of proof. And you can't prove something doesn't exist. It's a logical fallacy. You can only prove they /do/ exist.

--Jaylemurph
GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 16 2008, 04:53 PM) *
But you're also the one (apparently) alleging these things are real. You're the one with the burden of proof. And you can't prove something doesn't exist. It's a logical fallacy. You can only prove they /do/ exist.

--Jaylemurph


No, I merely am asking does anyone know anything about it. Your right in what you are saying, but I was merely saying that all because there is no evidence doesn't mean it cannot exist. It's like the moon landing, the only evidence we know about the moon landing, is a video link that supposedly came from the moon. Now, beofre you start about the moon landings etc. I am NOT a '911 was an inside job' person. All I am saying is thatshotage of evidence does not mean that it is not real or doesn't exist!



Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
jaylemurph
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Apr 17 2008, 03:57 PM) *
No, I merely am asking does anyone know anything about it. Your right in what you are saying, but I was merely saying that all because there is no evidence doesn't mean it cannot exist.


True, I suppose, but I (personally) would say that something with no proof is at least unlikely -- but not impossible. This same quandary is, at root, the same thing Descartes talks about in the beginning of his Meditations on First Philosophy, and I can't do better than him.

QUOTE
It's like the moon landing, the only evidence we know about the moon landing, is a video link that supposedly came from the moon. Now, beofre you start about the moon landings etc. I am NOT a '911 was an inside job' person. All I am saying is thatshotage of evidence does not mean that it is not real or doesn't exist!


I agree, this isn't the place to discuss moon landings... Nor (generally speaking) would I ever discuss it, since it's so far out of anything I can reasonably discuss. I can just say that I *believe* we went to the moon, but that belief is not based on much first-hand knowledge.

--Jaylemurph
GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
QUOTE (jaylemurph @ Apr 17 2008, 10:07 PM) *
True, I suppose, but I (personally) would say that something with no proof is at least unlikely -- but not impossible. This same quandary is, at root, the same thing Descartes talks about in the beginning of his Meditations on First Philosophy, and I can't do better than him.



I agree, this isn't the place to discuss moon landings... Nor (generally speaking) would I ever discuss it, since it's so far out of anything I can reasonably discuss. I can just say that I *believe* we went to the moon, but that belief is not based on much first-hand knowledge.

--Jaylemurph


LOL, WELL PARSED!!!! LOL *makes a link towards an earlier response to this thread* hehe, sorry couldn't resist. But ofcourse, the priory of Sion is supposedly meant to guard some real big secret, but what could the secret be? any speculations?


Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN
jaylemurph
QUOTE (GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN @ Apr 18 2008, 05:00 PM) *
LOL, WELL PARSED!!!! LOL *makes a link towards an earlier response to this thread* hehe, sorry couldn't resist. But ofcourse, the priory of Sion is supposedly meant to guard some real big secret, but what could the secret be? any speculations?


Thanks, GUNNARYSEARGENTHARTMAN


The BBC writers responsible for Holy Blood, Holy Grail seemed to think it was that Mary of Magdala got hitched to Jesus and bore his child(ren) and then moved to France, and that Pierre Plantard was in the enviable position of being both the real king of France and Jesus' great-grandson. Of course -- to put this in perspective, both Plantard and Fr. Sauniere, who started all this revived Rennes-les-Chateau/Priory of Sion nonsense back in the 1890s, are convicted frauds.

Historically speaking, there's no reason to think the original Priory of Sion of a thousand years ago were any different from a dozen other military orders like the Knights Hospitallers, Militia of Jesus Christ or Teutonic Knights (or, I suppose, the historic Knights Templar, as opposed to the mythic Knights Templar that every CTer has unfounded wet dreams about), in that they were a bunch of rich young European men ****ing about a long way from home killing unfortunate people with different takes on religion... It's certainly not until fairly recently (the 1890s) that anyone ever claimed that they had Big Important Secrets, and far more recently than that (since the 1970s) that anyone but pseudo-historians hawking their cheap books believed it.

--Jaylemurph
Mademoiselle
Would the freemasons know about the priory ? Freemasons are still very much present . ( So i hear )
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