So you agree then, that Demons are internalized attributes that we, as humans, create within ourselves? That they aren't entities in and of themselves, and they are just mental and emotional in nature? Because that's how I see them, but that doesn't make them a "real" entity with their own agenda, that's all I'm getting at.

Ahhh, now we're talking, someone who understood the question.

Daimon is the original spelling of this and it translates to 'Spirit Energies' , certainly nothing scary here.
We would now have to define Spirit and energies . . . unfortunately I don't have time right now (I have a concert to do in exactly 2hrs).

Daemon is another ancient spelling.
As far as their reality, they are within your psyche (inner Plane of Existence) but they will manifest in the Astral Plane and do manifest on our Earthly Plane in the forms of catastrophes and evil and the like.

So, Daimons are all around us and within us, are they dark red winged horned Goliaths on the verge of devouring your soul? No, how disappointing.

Well two points.
1. Psychology as a science is something considered debatable.
2. That would mean they a metaphorical and hence proving that they are not real.

Yes, parts of the "psychic apparatus" defined in Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche - the critical and moralizing function.

I am going to put a big red "S" on mine.

Here in the States, in the age of rampant cell phone ownership, telephone booths are desperately tough to locate.

Hrrmzz... going to have to check out Superman Returns to see how he gets around that...........damn cell phones.....

I have never seen any evidence to suggest they are anything but mischivious spirits of the deceased.
The only Demons that exist, are the ones whithin us all, "monsters from the subconscious".

You guys need to update your Wiki bookmarks . . . Freud is "olde' hat

I don't think I look foolish here, does anyone else think I do?
Tolkien is an author, Lord of the Rings is perhaps what people may follow . . . FOOL.
Perhaps YOU should get get a clue on SOMETHING for a change, I'm fully aware of all his moronic crap, my 'kids' (not in reference to you of course) have read his works and watched the movies . . .*SNIP* . . . . Uhhh, so what were we talking about on this thread before you once again managed to DERAIL it?

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Ok. So there is no physical body that can be touched, smelled or examined?

Why are there so many other eye witnesses that state that a demon is a creature that does want to devour my soul? That can manifest and do damage. That originates in hell.

Your definition, while interesting, seems to conflict with the normal idea of a demon.

As I have no evidence of or map to the astral plane I can't use it as evidence to support the existance of demons (however its spelled).

HN

Very interesting information, Raven. Yes, I very much believe that satan and demons exist.

Thanks for posting the info. :-)

may i ask why?
im just curious.

How covenient that demons are "NOT something to mess around with." Everyone seems too terrified to see if they actually exist. I'm not afraid, because frankly, I have never seen ANY evidence to suggest their existence. So how would I go about 'messing' with one? If it proves their existence to me, I'd be up for it.

I would venture to say that the closest thing to Daemonic entities would be the concept of the Qliphoth in Qabalah.

That is a concept. If you want the closest thing to demonic entities in those terms would the concept of a demonic entity.

Well The Bible Says That Demons Used To Be Real
Then again, the Devil is a demon so I guess they still are real

The bible also says there was a world flood and that Homo sapiens breed from just 2 individuals, it is not a renowned for its accuracy you know.

Huh?

Maybe you would like to make yourself clear? You did indeed say



Or maybe you should start reading Wiki? It is a terrific springboard to knowledge.

You can find the above outlined in The Standard Edition of the Complete Psychological Works of Sigmund Freud.
Psychiatry is a medical specialty - a science by the way

Might I ask just what material you are specifically referring to in your snarky tone?

I am still putting a big red "S" on mine. I reckon you're just snarky because I thought of it first

the old definition of demon or daimon is irrelevant. the current definition is what matters now. many words used to mean something different than they do now.

today demon refers to a wide variety of spiritual entities that seek to harm man for various reasons. All cultures have these evil entities in their religious beliefs under various names.

why would they hide? that is easy. They hide because it makes it easier for them to attack us, and interfere in our lives. If everyone knew for a fact that they existed, then we would always be on guard against them making it harder to get to us. There are a few who have the knowledge and power to stand up to them, but those who do not believe can easily dismiss them.

Those who have experienced them warn you about them but do not offer to provide you with proof or the means to obtain your own proof for your own sake. you would seek to verify it yourself, and as has been stated many times, they are not something to willingly get involved with.

When I usually refer to anything psychological I tend to reference Jung, being he seems to have entered into paranormal phenomenon.