http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fkX0LntF-8


Crazy EVP. I find it disturbing that the ghost seemed to hear them but couldnt see them. Very clear EVP. *shivers*

Very good episode. And very impressive EVP's aswell. I hate how last night's show has taken on the trick of waiting to the very end to play the evidence. ( I hate when shows do that )

But when they were up in that real big open area with all of the wooden stairs, you're going to hear noises. Wood contracts and expands, animals get in there, etc.

My group has gotten some EVP's like that. Its awesome when you get a Class A EVP that communicated directly with you.

I hate waiting to the end too, but when they do not catch a whole lot of evidence, I think they are trying to make up for the lack of findings to build up to the evidence they do capture.

The Tavern was a complete waste of time!? You could tell the owner was disappointed and had a smirk on her face in the basement after they showed her the high EMF Fields. These business's they do are trying to get TAPS to make them money. When they don't find anything, they get their back up in the air a little.

Not every place is haunted because there is the possibilities of alternative explanations.

Yeah, tell me about it. I have squirrels living in my walls. Nothing nicer than being woken up at 3 in the morning by a squirrel fight. I managed to wiggle a little piece of the panneling the other day (just enough so I could see in the walls just a little) and there was a googley little squirrel eye peering up at me. . .they make some awful noises too. . .If I didn't know they were there, I would swear it was someone with a sledgehammer beating on my walls. . .

But anyways. . .yeah, that was an interesting evp. . .especially the fact that she could hear them but not see them. . .it makes me think of that movie "The Others". That's just really creepy. They should go back and try it again and try to explain who they are and "where" they are. I think its good "proof" that ghosts exist on another plane of existence. . .since the "not seeing each other" goes both ways, apparently. .. or, at least in some cases.

I agree, try to communicate more with the princess...awesome evp

This was the first evp ever that I could actually understand what was being said. Or did I just understand because they subtitled what was being said?
It also strangely reminded me of "The Others". Hmmm....
This raises far too many questions.
The evps were uncanny though.

haha it reminded me of "the others" as well. I actually was just talking about that with a guy at work here. I wish they would follow up on that and get some more EVPs. When you get direct communication like that... I would want to try again and take it further.

To be honest it sort of eased my mind about what could really be out there. Spending all this money for something that isn't proven kinda makes you think....what if...but this eased the mind a little.

This will sound silly, but I think they should find out if she has any surviving diaries. If she does they should be examined to see if she wrote about any paranormal experiences that could correlate with the TAPS investigation.

I agree . with an evp that clear i would be going back there to try to get some information from her that maybe could be validated through history records and such .

I havent watched the whole episode yet but think i will now .

Hmmm. For some reason I bet the cost for visitors to stay in that room just doubled. And is reserved for the next ten years.

lol, I think you are right.

Eh whats an avg of 415 a night for a hotel stay at Mount Washington Resort.

That's funny. Good point though.

They may go up 50-100 bucks, but it is an extravagant hotel so the business will still be business.

Because I remember several years, I went with my family to tour the old Mansfield Ohio prison. We had never even heard that they had overnight ghost hunts. We just went on the regular tour. But once we got home we started reading about their ghost hunts. They still had plenty of openings at the time for guests. But then the following year TAPS went there. Now their ghost hunts are booked solid.

Dude... that's every place they investigate! LOL

Look I remember seeing an ad for a TAPS event that only just had Steve, Tango and Dustin and it was $200 a ticket for only one night!? Are they insane!? That doesn't include hotel food gas etc;

Yeah that is true. If you want an overnight investigation just for your group it is 1500 bucks and that is for I believe 30 people. So, 50 bucks a person and even if you take a group of 5 it is still 1500 bucks. If you go over 30 people for an investigation, the price raises for each additional person. It is absurd actually.

That Taps ep. last night started me rethinking as to how we view "ghosts" what if it's just a rift in time. What if the princess did hear them in her time and thought they were ghosts, just like we see and sometimes hear ghosts. It made me wonder too if she did hear it in her time and maybe told someone, wrote it down etc (like someone else on this thread thought). The thing I am getting at is if this is true then we are not actually seeing or hearing ghosts we are in fact hearing or seeing real people but in other times (back in time or maybe in the future). The thought kinda creeped me out a little.

I'm afraid for smaller groups... that if TAPS hit every good place, we all have to pay to investigate. Not for nothing, but the paranormal field is starting to turn into a business no thanks to TAPS. Don't get me wrong. I love the show. I met them in person. But they are going to make it hard for the smaller groups to find places to study. This field is a non profit field. But all of sudden each place TAPS visit, its like $200 per person just for one night. I have a decent job, but I think the prices are ridiculous. Would you spend $200 just to investigate where TAPS has been for only one night? I wouldn't. $200 can go a long way for me.

I rather put my $200 where I am going to get my money's worth!

I think they should drop the prices, then these places would draw up more business.

I'm a little confused here. When you said "But all of sudden each place TAPS visit, its like $200 per person just for one night... Would you spend $200 just to investigate where TAPS has been for only one night?"
Are you saying that these places charge the group to investigate? Or is the $200 for a one night stay at the hotel or whatnot that they investigated?

Could anyone make out what was being said at the first part of the EVP before they started to transcribe it? I cant quite make it out....

livinonaprayer... yes, all these places TAPS have been to charge groups to investigate. Most of the places do now. Maybe not all... but most.

Why do you think the guy who sat down for the reveal smiled big and smirked with Jason when they both agreed now they have a haunted hotel. How ironic!?

Fluffybunny... I couldn't make it out either. I don't remember the subtitles they put up. LOL...

It was a great Class A responding/intelligent EVP... though it could of been residual? How do they know for sure it wasn't just repeating something?

Fluffybunny... I found the clip on Youtube.

Hotel EVP

Part of it sounded like "what's going on".
But you bring up something interesting. Why did they only transcribe the evps with Grant and Jason and not Steve and Dave's? Did they only have time to figure out Grant and Jason's evps? Hmmm...more questions.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.
It seems to me that she was responding to their questions. For example, when Jason asked "Princess, are you in here"..she answered "of course I'm in here"...

Can't blame TAPS for investigating. It is not their fault places charge after they leave. My group is getting access free of charge to a place that usually charges an arm and a leg. Just have to know how to talk. Of course I have an extremely *spam filter*istant so that doesn't hurt matters. A little push up bra, a lil sweet talking, game over!

That is all her though lol

Yeah but who do you think gets the idea? They don't get the idea on their own. I am sure TAPS has some what something to do with it. Look at all the places they have investigated and helped turned into a business? Its quite funny how when TAPS come back for an appearance they charge an arm and a leg for it. Do you know how much these places are getting each time TAPS comes? I know, I sent a proposal to them for a client once. It never went through but TAPS get like $2,000 a gig. Maybe more. That was a quote by their management who I spoke with over the phone.

Didn't get to see this episode.So where did TAPS investigate,and who is this princess several people have mentioned. Did they go to Europe,or was it here in the States.

Of course, these places like the Stanley Hotel and others will up the cost of rooms or what have you due to all the free publicity they get from TAPS doing an investigation. Well,maybe not the Stanley or Crescent Hotel in Eureka Springs,since they have been around long before TAPS.Would like them to come to San Antonio and do the Menger Hotel,which is near the Alamo,and dates back to the 1850s or so.Be cool if they could investigate the Alamo,but that would be up to the Daughters of the Republic of Texas,who maintain it as a shrine to Texas liberty.Be interesting to see if Jim Bowie and Davy Crockett were haunting the place,or maybe some of the soldiers of Santa Anna 's army who died there are hanging about. Another good place is Presidio La Bahia in
Goliad,Tx.Various paranormal activity has gone on there.

What do you mean Taps has something to do with it? You mean to tell me hey, by allowing us to come in you will be able to increase your profits ten fold? Do you realize that TAPS doesn't fetch cases? For the record it is extremely unethical for their management to say how much they make a gig so that makes me question you calling and talking about such a thing. I am taking I/O Psychology and that raises so many red flags it is unbelievable.

A.) What business is it of yours how much they make a gig?

B.) You do realize they are incredibly busy with having a team, investigating, having a tv show, having a life, having a family...it is almost essential to charge for their time away from all of it. Their investigations are free, good for them to make money which allows them to go to the places they go to and for them to have the top of the notch equipment!

C.) To be honest, you sound extremely bitter and jealous that your team hasn't had the success that other groups have had. You say TAPS gives credibility to the field and that they do, but they are doing something that every paranormal investigator dreams of doing...making it a living, while hardly having to work part time.

D.) My group makes a lot of money doing fundraisers, through donations, which I am not even apart of. Good thing about being a non-profit organization filed through the IRS, those who donate can write it off in their taxes...

E.) We are in the paperwork phase with a real estate company who offered to pay us for our services but being non-profit we can not. Instead, they are donating and once again, writing it off.

In this field, when you can get money that is generously given, where is the harm? We never ask for money, we just hold events where we can make it and those who put in to it can as well. IE. Poker Tournaments, bus trips to Greek town, having 50/50's, selling our merchindise, car washes, etc.

You just have to know what you are doing and have the people around you to make it happen. Like I said, we expect to pull in at least 2000 in may alone, and we have a long summer ahead of us.

I'm not bitter. I happen to be a big fan of TAPS. They are the ones who propelled me to get into the field.

I'm not jealous either. I'm very happy with my group and how things have gone. I might not have the resources, the money, and the equipment they have or any other group has. But we have worked hard, and gained much evidence with our own work ethics.

If anything... I appreciate TAPS. More than I did before. I understand the whole process and the things they do behind the scenes. I'm just saying it makes it hard for smaller groups who do not have opportunities to get donations or make any kind of money to get in these places after TAPS help make these establishments into a business. But I am not saying they shouldn't do it. If that's what people want to do, go for it. I just think they should drop the prices a bit considering most groups do not make a lot of money.

FYI Cry Wolf I did speak to the TAPS management on the phone. Because I was going to book an appearance for TAPS at one of our locations. I was told we could make money doing so. I was told by their management. Its not my words. I have no reason to lie. I was told that the event I was going to hold at this location I could of made $2000. My client was going to make $2000. I guess the rest goes to TAPS and their management. Those were the figures given to me. It never went through because ghost hunting is not my clients top priority.

But I wouldn't lie about such things. I'm not a liar so please do not accuse me of being one.

If you have one group into a place, why have another if you were satisfied with the results?

Huh?

I only have one group!?

Whoa, that kinda flew over your head a little bit lol

If a business/establishment already had one team in there, why have nother come in there if they were satisfied with the results?

Say TAPS goes into a location, once they are finished, why have another follow suit?

Seems a little too far fetched to make in excess of 5000 dollars for an event if you would make 2g, your "client" makes 2g and TAPS would get the rest. Even if TAPS is who TAPS is. You would make probably a 3rd of what was estimated you would receive. In order to to hold such events, you have to put in to receive a desired goal.

Seemed kinda out there that you would contact TAPS in the first place for an event that wasn't even definite in the first place. Before you plan an event, it is best to KNOW you can acquire the area first before you contact someone. Otherwise you spend more than you make and everything is pointless.

Also, let me just point something out. If you think its hard on smaller groups, DON'T INVESTIGATE AREAS TAPS HAS. Why help those who have already had help. Try focusing on those who need the help in the first place. Why beat a dead horse? Yeah, its nice to investigate any area, but who is that really helping? You? The "client"? Research?

In order to run a successful group you must know how to run it in the first place....not follow in other groups footsteps.

I don't understand, why investigate a place that's already been documented paranormal. Are there not other places that have spooks? If a place has been investigated and found "haunted" whats the point of having another group come in to say the same thing..

There isn't really. Probably knowing you are going in to get evidence. However, are you just going to go in there, do your thing and that is it? What is to show to the client that hasn't already been shown to them? Yeah new evidence, but it isn't like you are going to raise their eyebrows and say...oh by the way your place is haunted...they will look at you like....um no sh** sherlock.

Same here.. when they're that good, you can't just leave it be.. or I couldn't anyway.

There's nothing wrong with going into a place TAPS have been to. Do you know how many other paranormal groups follow TAPS to a tee? Its a fact of trying to just capture good evidence. That's all and there's nothing wrong with it. Cry wolf just doesn't like me, so he's going to pick on me for it.

Oh stop being a freaking pansy will ya. That is your assumption that I don't like you because I don't agree with you. Your email to me crying about it just proved it. Which you being a child about things makes me dislike you. However not to get off topic....

What I am saying, which you may have missed. You are complaining about places being too expensive for groups such as yours to investigate because of TAPS. My reply. DON'T INVESTIGATE WHERE TAPS HAVE BEEN THEN DAMN.

Those who follow TAPS to a TEE are just wanna'be's in the field. Nothing more, nothing less. Be orginial, do your own thing. NOT ride in someones wake.

I don't know about all that hater stuff, I was just asking a legit question is all..

I wouldn't hold TAPS up as a becon of great investigaters anyway.

I think most of us do around here..
But, despite that, who's to say it's best to ride the coat tails of TAPS, it's good to expand your horizons a bit.. I would think.

One last thing and I suggest we get back on topic. Are you serious? You want sympathy now? Want me to write you a pretty hallmark card with flowers to state that I am soo soo sorry?

Wasn't that the greatest darn EVP EVER??

Ohhh That would be nice. Would you write me up one for "I'm sorry yu watched Paranormal State." I told a friend to watch one on youtube and he's not talked to me in a week.

Not really.

That was the greatest EVP ever!

It was a good evp, I agree.